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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Dark Nemesis on August 06, 2011, 09:38:47 AM
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Ok, i made this thread, to show you people some new screens and concept art from the canceled game, that they have surfaced and that at least to me they are looking very nice and interesting and to hear your opinions and thoughts about them and after seen them, if you think that the graphics for it's time they were above the ps2 Castlevania titles.
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6157/res12.jpg)(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4329/res11.jpg)(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5871/res10p.jpg)(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2694/res09.jpg)(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8249/res08.jpg)(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/9554/res07.jpg)(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2851/res13.jpg)(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/9191/res14.jpg)(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/9240/res15.jpg)(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6250/res16q.jpg)(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7629/res17.jpg)(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9474/res18vc.jpg)(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8241/res19.jpg)(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/5094/res20.jpg)(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/329/res21.jpg)
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That's awesome, where did you find those? The only ugly thing that this game had to offer was Sonia's design (blech) and that hideous "Female Dracula" render. Other than that the game looked like it was gonna be fun and would've been an excellent addition to the series.
Though most likely it would've been retconned, lol
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First I thought it was an announcement for the Anniversary xD Looks pretty nice though!
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Well, comparing these new screens with the old ones, i can say that there is a big difference in graphics polish. Maybe these are from a later build of the game? :-\
Still, i would love for this game to come out and play it!!!
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It looks like they were heading in the right direction as far as stage design. I LOL'd at the artwork. Reminded me of the line art in the old NES manuals.
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Though most likely it would've been retconned, lol
Yeah, knowing IGA's current state of mind :P Are those the only screens you could find. I'd like to see others if the exist. And yeah those black & white monster sketches do remind me of the old NES manuals.
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Here are some more!!!( I've had to censored some of them... :P)
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9500/arst05.jpg)(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8775/cardinal01.jpg)(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7817/death03.jpg)(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5516/death04.jpg)(http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/2082/harpy01.jpg)(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/7168/res02.jpg)(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2069/res03.jpg)(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/5352/res06.jpg)(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7360/sonia02.jpg)(http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/9886/victor03.jpg)(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4554/zombie02w.jpg)(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2546/dracula01.png)(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9342/sonia04.png)(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7055/sonia05.png)
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I can understands your need to censor some of them :o But for artists, when it comes to dressing your character it is important that you have a properly proportioned body to work with.
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That male Vampire Hunter looks suspiciously like Bill Rizer. Maybe time travel played a greater role than previously thought.
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Compared to the wonderful envorinment shots, those character models look horrible (especially Sonia's face).
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oh look it bimbo Sonia and Tim Curry.
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Compared to the wonderful envorinment shots, those character models look horrible (especially Sonia's face).
I'll have to agree with you!!!
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WOw what a great find!!! Where did you get these?
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this.
http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/Games/res.html (http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/Games/res.html)
http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/features/orduyan.html (http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/features/orduyan.html)
http://www.orduyan.com/ (http://www.orduyan.com/)
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I wonder if they are ever going to make a new entry with Sonia as a main character.
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What I wonder is whether they were seriously considering using some of those designs in the game
two of Sonia's outfits have visible nipples even when she is clothed & the Belmont with a stake for a middle finger is pretty... erm unique?
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I hate that this game got canceled. I thought it looked amazing then, and I still think it looks to have captured the spirit of Castlevania—which I can't say for any of the other post-N64 3D games.
Even incomplete, I'd love to play this.
And holy hell, this game's use of color... I hate how drab a lot of games look these days. Game developers should take some notes from Mario Bava and Dario Argento on how color can enhance a dark mood.
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http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/features/orduyan.html (http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/features/orduyan.html)
"We thought of a level where it's black and white, monochromatic, like the old Dracula 30s movie, with film grains and everything."
Anyone beside me think that this is a really cool idea for a Castlevania game? Think about it: the first game came about as a sort of reaction and love note to old Universal horror/monster pictures, and the first three games in the series all feature intros with sprocket holes to indicate moving film frames. It sounds perfect.
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The stupid thing is, that this game is pretty much 100% complete, but is now locked away somewhere because of the cancellation of the Dreamcast.
A pretty cool idea would be to release this game for Wii Virtual Console or something as a free download or for a reasonable price.
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pretty cool idea would be to release this game for Wii Virtual Console or something as a free download or for a reasonable price
The Wii's virtual console was one of the main reasons that I purchased the console but alas it's looking mighty dead right now, I know of at least one dreamcast game that has been released on Xbox live though.
personally I'd much prefer see a castlevania collection (or collections) with resurrection included.
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Release it as the game to celebrate Castlevania 25th Anniversary.
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Release it as the game to celebrate Castlevania 25th Anniversary.
A very good idea, but many people, will disagree!!! But still it would be awesome to get it either way.....
Actually, i found them here:http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/games/res/home.htm (http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/games/res/home.htm)
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Release it as the game to celebrate Castlevania 25th Anniversary.
Only if they remake the graphics AND the models. They look FUGLY as hell.
A treatment like Zelda OoT 3D would be great before releasing it.
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Only if they remake the graphics AND the models. They look FUGLY as hell.
A treatment like Zelda OoT 3D would be great before releasing it.
If they'd remake it, totally the graphics and models, but also the designs in general. Get, like, Ayami Kojima to handle the main character re-designs, and hire more accomplished artists to tackle the enemy designs. For instance, Death riding a horse is cool, but redesigned, I'd rather see him riding a demonic skeleton horse with giant bat wings, breathing fire and such.
Also, re-design the story too. The whole, "time where there was no Belmont present so the existance of balance summoned Belmonts from other time periods to balance the evil that was Dracula" was stupid in concept. Tweak it a bit so that both Sonia and Victor have valid reasons for existing together without some "time summoning" thing. Set the game right after Legends, or retcon Legends and establish Sonia as existing in a later time(Or even use the bit about her being Eric Lecarde's ancestor). Establish Victor as her brother or cousin(or something), and away we go. Nix the female Dracula chick(urgh), and keep the story simple. Don't toss in a gimick just for the sake(time travel is almost always a gimick).
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Might as well make a new game, huh.
We don't even know how the game plays beyond a video with walking IIRC, and the things you want change in are like the only things we know about.
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Shut up, Thernz. Nobody likes you.
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The only real gripe I have for this game is the way Sonia looks. She needs to go back to a more 'Anime' look that she had going for her in Legends. That's how we first saw her and that's how she should continue to be presented. Unless of course a really good artist comes along and gives her a look that will pass with flying colors, I'd be fine with that too.
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Might as well make a new game, huh.
Yeah. "THEY SHOULD RELEASE THE GAME BUT MAKE IT COMPLETELY DIFF'RENT 'COS THIS GAME LOOKS SOOOO OLD AND SHITTY LOL!"
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Yeah. "THEY SHOULD RELEASE THE GAME BUT MAKE IT COMPLETELY DIFF'RENT 'COS THIS GAME LOOKS SOOOO OLD AND SHITTY LOL!"
Go by trendy logic, and just REBOOT the game. Keep Sonia and Victor, but do something totally new with the story. At most, keep the gist of the location design(particularly the town area seen in the pictures). The rest, all new.
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They really dont even NEED time travel to have 2 Belmonts.
here's an idea. Sonia is the heir to vampire Killer, and Victor is still a Belmont who ran away from his destiny. He could be Sonia's brother or something. Or make him older and be her uncle. Thus he is still a Belmont, but he doesnt use a whip, and has his own play style. Evil arises and fate makes it so he has to face his destiny and aid Sonia.
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I can just see Operation Akumajou adding Resurrection to it's list of requests
not that I would see a problem with that infact I think it makes more sense than demanding the demon castle war which is esentialling asking for something that doesn't even exist yet.
Get, like, Ayami Kojima to handle the main character re-designs
Not everyone is head over heels for Kojima's designs, I for one would be sickened by the idea I'd rather see a few other artists given a chance.The intro cinematic for resurrection looks pretty decent & what we are seeing is concept designs presumably fairly early so the finished game could still be quite nice without needing to be remade.
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They really dont even NEED time travel to have 2 Belmonts.
here's an idea. Sonia is the heir to vampire Killer, and Victor is still a Belmont who ran away from his destiny. He could be Sonia's brother or something. Or make him older and be her uncle. Thus he is still a Belmont, but he doesnt use a whip, and has his own play style. Evil arises and fate makes it so he has to face his destiny and aid Sonia.
I had the same idea. I would be interesting, having Victor Sonia's older brother, who was meant to inherit the VK, but chickened out of his duty, so Sonia stepped up and said, "Hey, if he's not going to do it, somebody DOES, so hand it over! I'll be happy to be this generation's ass kickin' Belmont warrior!!". Maybe toss in some tension regarding resentment. Victor might come back wanting to reclaim his birthright and Sonia will go, "No way! You snooze, you loose! Play second fiddle to ME, the REAL Belmont hero...er...HEROINE!!!!". That could be pretty damn good, actually. Konami, quit being a douche! DO IT!! ;D
Not everyone is head over heels for Kojima's designs, I for one would be sickened by the idea I'd rather see a few other artists given a chance.The intro cinematic for resurrection looks pretty decent & what we are seeing is concept designs presumably fairly early so the finished game could still be quite nice without needing to be remade.
I only mentioned Ayami because I'm partial to her style, though ANYBODY would be better(even though I'd probably keep away from the LoS Middle-Earth artstyle, as well as the horrible Judgement DeathNote style). The artist who did Ooe, or even the ones who did CotM and the CV64 games(which are the most anime-like for being 3D). But really, I loath the general character art style of Resurrection. Some of those designs reek of "extreme 90s"(I'm guessing it started development somewhere in the LATE 90s, given it was cancelled in March 2000). That style is vomit inducing, IMO. I wasn't a fan of that type of style back when I was a teen during the 90s(even though some of my friends, at the time, ate that crap up like it was candy), I particularly don't think it's right for the CV series. It's the reason I liked the general art direction of the CV series during the 90s.
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I can just see Operation Akumajou adding Resurrection to it's list of requests
not that I would see a problem with that infact I think it makes more sense than demanding the demon castle war which is esentialling asking for something that doesn't even exist yet.
Resurrection looks like it may have been a decent 3D game for the series, but Operation Akumajo is strictly dedicated to preserving the more traditional 2D gameplay.
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I'd love to see how the game looked out in its original form, flaws and all.
In fact, it would be a dream to see this on a disc with Bloodlines (with the beta stuff that didn't make it, included in this version). And maybe some Haunted Castle and some Akumajo Dracula: the Arcade thrown in. It could be called Castlevania: The Lost Chapters, or Castlevania: Willie Eats Glass. Whichever works, really.
But that's just fanboy pipe dream stuff. :-[
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We need some Castlevania: The Arcade fo'sho'. I'd love for both that and Silent Hill: The Arcade to come out.
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not that I would see a problem with that infact I think it makes more sense than demanding the demon castle war which is esentialling asking for something that doesn't even exist yet.
I think this would make an interesting operation by itself.
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We need some Castlevania: The Arcade fo'sho'. I'd love for both that and Silent Hill: The Arcade to come out.
OH YEAH FO SHO DAWG I CAN DIG IT.. BUT KONAMI BE PLAYA HATIN'
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I was never really excited about resurrection. The whole time travel thing bothered me. I think if they do anything with it, they should improve the graphics and revise the story. Make them brother and sister like some of you were suggesting, but make the guy wield the whip and make Sonia a spellcaster saying the while Victor inherited the whip, he lacked most of the magical skill some of his ancestors had and that Sonia was talented with her powers. In essence, they would be a team: a male warrior wielding the whip and a female spellcaster (yes, I know it sounds like PoR). As for where to shoehorn the game, it could be between CoD and Castlevania the Adventure (Christopher's first game).
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but make the guy wield the whip and make Sonia a spellcaster
Nah instead just give Victor some sort of gun he's into warfare and all that & he is the rebellious one after all, I don't think Sonia would make a very good spellcaster.
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Nah instead just give Victor some sort of gun he's into warfare and all that & he is the rebellious one after all, I don't think Sonia would make a very good spellcaster.
I agree. Victor turned away from his destiny and his clan for freedom so naturally he would be denied the whip by the clan. Sonia had a whip since Legends. She's a whip-wielder. Not a magician. She has power but she's a medieval combatant and trained in the art of Vampire slaying using the Vampirekiller. Sonia is in an entirely different league then say Charlotte, Sypha or any other spell caster in CV. She's a warrior woman.
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Yeah, she is special, like Shanoa.
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Why should he get the whip instead of Sonia? because he's the male? She's had the whip before his character was even created. He was made for Resurrection. That WOULD be a bit sexist. I mean, theres no good reason. we no NOTHING about his original character except he ran away from his destiny. And it works best that way. all Belmonts seem to fall into the role, but I cant imagine NONE of them ever having questioned it or tried to run away from it. It makes the Belmonts seem a bit more human. Not just musclemen with no personalities.
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I read all the comments here and from what i have seen so far, is that all of you people want is an entirely new game, made from scratch.
Well, i for once do not wish for a new Castlevania resurrection, but instead the chance to try the original. If graphics improvement was possible, then it's ok. It doesn't really have to be a main game, it can be a spin off.
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Agreed. I'd rather see how far they came along instead of wanting it to be remade or anything. Its appeal with me lies more in its cancellation (and the mystery of what kind of game it was), and not so much what it could be turned into.
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Agreed. I'd rather see how far they came along instead of wanting it to be remade or anything. Its appeal with me lies more in its cancellation (and the mystery of what kind of game it was), and not so much what it could be turned into.
My thoughts exactly!!!
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My thoughts exactly!!!
4th'd!
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The story concept is terrible, the characters are terrible, the artwork is terrible. But I like the look of the castle. I am so glad this game never saw the light of day
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The story concept is terrible, the characters are terrible, the artwork is terrible. But I like the look of the castle. I am so glad this game never saw the light of day
So, you went to a bookstore and saw a book at the shop window, with a few pages open for you to see and you 've said, nahhhh....this book doesn't look interesting.....what i want to say, except from some screens and the intro video, we haven't seen anything else and we don't know how the final product looks.
Anyway, it's your opinion and i'm acceptin it, but bad or no, still i'm really curious to see what it could be.....don't forget that N64 Castlevania titles, they don't have the preatiest graphics, but they capture the true spirit of what a Castlevania game in 3D should be and resurrection, it's looking to having a lot of platforming.
I don't like to judge a book from it's cover or it's few first pages, before i say it's worth to read or not!!!
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I don't like to judge a book from it's cover or it's few first pages, before i say it's worth to read or not!!!
I don't either. I'm judging it from what I've seen and from the terrible plot I've read about it. I'm not judging it from one or two screens I'm judging it from everything I've seen.
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Since the game is finished, but never got released, i supposed that there is not a chance to get remastered. My point? Better a chance to have it and try it for what was supposed to be than not having it at all!!! ;)
Many people dislike Castlevania Adventure, for it's flaws, but i like it and it was the first Castlevania game that i have played and got me hooked to the series!!! :)
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Wow, I didn't know The Adventure could get someone hooked to the series.
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Wow, I didn't know The Adventure could get someone hooked to the series.
Why is that? If you didn't have played any other Castlevania game previously and this one was your first, i believe that playing the other games, after that, it could only get better and better!!! ;)
Even from all the Wizards & Warriors series, i like the one for the game boy the most!!!
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I don't either. I'm judging it from what I've seen and from the terrible plot I've read about it. I'm not judging it from one or two screens I'm judging it from everything I've seen.
The point is - we didn't see everything about the game. Only some scraps.
It's wrong to blame the game as a failure only based on random materials. Besides no one knows how it would be in gameplay department. Maybe this game could have gameplay so good, that it would overshadow all it's shortcomings in other areas.
Since the game is finished, but never got released,
It's unknown for sure if it was completely finished or not.
There are different rumours about how much of this game was finished, ranging from 30% and up to 70% or even 90%.
Also, there was list of Dreamcast demo games on Hidden-Palace I think. It was noted there that a playable version of th CVR existed and was released on the disk, possiby for some previews.
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Judging from the interview at the Dungeon, it was very near completion. Interesting news about the demo. That's most likely another lost treasure that us fans will never get to see.
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I have heard about the demo before, but i don't believe that there is anyone in the world that has it or was able to try it.......
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i might have it in my über-collection somewhere... i'll have to check sometime
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It was noted there that a playable version of the CVR existed and was released on the disk, possibly for some previews.
A demo for tries? Sweet! I'd give it a try :)
i might have it in my über-collection somewhere... i'll have to check sometime
Let us know if you find it :D