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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: James Belmont on November 26, 2007, 07:38:45 PM
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Well? Are there?
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nope.
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In Reply To #1
Due to IGA saying info will be released when DXC's novelty wears off, I wouldn't expect any info for a little while.
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Nope have'nt heard anything yet but I hope they do though.
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I heard awhile ago they want to announce it either Nov or Dec and since Nov. is over, hopefully it will be soon.
I also heard it might not be until Konami's Game Developer Day in Spring.
So, who knows....
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All I know is they better announce it soon and it better not involve any crappy "exchange student" storyline.
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In Reply To #6
Or even crappier childish anime story like por's "two or more kids with half a brain go against the lord of darkness and win just because they're good."
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In Reply To #7
True, very true, but that's a good point, I still don't know how they could win.
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In Reply To #7
Coming from the person using two adversaries from the game in his/her sig and one in his/her avatar...lulz, just joshing.
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In Reply To #9
Ya got a point there! lol
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Is there some law that forces people to like a game certain character's from even if the game sucks balls as a whole? You don't have to dislike every character if you hate the game.
Proof: Some people like Sonia but hate Legends because it didn't do her justice. Same is the case here. The sisters were great characters, but por downplayed them a lot barely even showing them, giving them some cliche "vampire" lines, then eventually brushed off completely once they're cured to force the much unneeded Dracula in.
They were supposed to be major villains, but their roles were like those of small minions nobody mentions.
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case in point, curse of darkness sucked but trevor was badass in it!
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In Reply To #12
That's a great example. :3
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case in point, curse of darkness was awesome and Isaac was badass in it!
Fixed! :P
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Fixed! :P
Seconded.
Anyways, I thought it was typically around January that Konami usually releases upcoming game info?
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Fixed! :P
See what happens when you try to fix things that aren't broken? Now it's all messed up.
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In Reply To #12
That's a great example. :3
No, it's not! Trevor is and always was badass, but CoD did not suck.
In Reply to #11
Dude, we were just kidding around. Well, I was, anyway. You can like the characters you like, even if your statements contradict each other! ;D
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How do they contradict each other?
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You can like characters from a game you don't like. I hate(yes, I HATE it) the game Final Fantasy VIII, but I like Quistis Trepe. I love the idea of a Gunblade, but I don't like it's wielder, Squall. :D Just like I dislike CV Legends, yet I like Sonia's overall design.
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Leave Soma alone hes awsome >:( I been playing CV since it began and I for 1 love the anime style its grown into.
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In Reply To #11
What's so great about the sisters? I liked them too, but only because I had high hopes for watching them make out...i was very disappointed, let me tell you >:[
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No, it's not! Trevor is and always was badass, but CoD did not suck.
Yeah I agree, there's lots of fun to be had in that game, plus getting to see an updated version of Trevor was awesome.
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In Reply To #21
They had more character than Charlotte, Julia, Mina and Lydie combined. :o
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In Reply To #21
They had more character than Charlotte, Julia, Mina and Lydie combined. :o
Yeah the sisters were cool, I still don't get Loretta's headgear though, man it's gotta suck going under low doorways. ;D
In Reply To #7
True, very true, but that's a good point, I still don't know how they could win.
Drac wasn't at full power and Jon had the whip. That's the only reason he won, drac was a weak pussy in POR, he had to steal death's power, he didn't even have a second form. I guess Brauner's magic was really efficient at separating dracs power from his physical form, and the leftoever remnants of Brauner's power were enough to slow drac's regenaration to the point where Jonathan and Charlotte could win. :) I love POR for the most part, well all except Richter mode that was retarded and didn't do him justice on hard 3 hits will kill you. :o
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In Reply To #21
They had more character than Charlotte, Julia, Mina and Lydie combined. :o
That's not saying much, considering those four had almost no character wahtsover, except to constantly nag the hero/heroes of the games they were in. Oh, and about what I said before about your cantradictory statements, some tim ago I remember you saying you hated everything about PoR, without excluding the sisters from that, and yet you love the sisters.
In Reply to #21
Yeah, that would've been...pretty awesome!
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I was always saying they were the only reason I liked the game. Most of the time when someone bashes a game, they don't mention its good points. Ever since por came out I had them in my signature. If I hated them, why would I?
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Yeah I agree, there's lots of fun to be had in that game, plus getting to see an updated version of Trevor was awesome.
That kinda "fun" doesn't & shouldn't live up to cv standards >:(
To each his own!
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That kinda "fun" doesn't & shouldn't live up to cv standards >:(
To each his own!
Uh what are you talking about man :? , I can tell you didn't like the game but the gameplay is no different then LOI (which seems to have faired better in the popularity dept), and you get all kinds of weapons to use like AoS and SOTN. You also get to build your own weapons which I love and the innocent devils were awesome.
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In Reply To #28
Ah..Innocent Devils, they're real usefuls...but a Belmont using one...I just don't get it...
And LoI gameplay is a little wired...Cv64 Gameplay owns..
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In Reply To #28
The gameplay in CoD was very different then the gameplay in LoI.
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In Reply To #23
Thinking about it, has Castlevania ever had any really good female characters that weren't a: annoying and/or b: damsels in distress? Sypha, I guess, but she never really said much :-/
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In Reply To #31
Does Maria or Yoko fall into any of those categories?
DoS Julius mode Yoko was pretty handy...
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Carrie in Lod was cool too. A 12 year old who was mature beyond her age, wasn't cutesy and didn't speak like Maria in rondo.
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In Reply To #32
Maria was kind of annoying at least in the US version how she always managed to follow Alucard even into places only he could get to (spiked corridor, for instance).
And Yoko... god, Yoko was annoying as fuck. I don't care if she was a powerful mage when you played as her. She got herself stabbed in Aria and she was an annoying shop owner in Dawn.
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In Reply To #34
I thought she was funny in Aria ;_; Then again, I have something of a soft spot for 'surrogate sisters'...;;_;;
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In Reply To #34
oO..... what are you talking abuot, she didn't follow Alucard. Shes there first.
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In Reply To #36
Maybe, but how DID she get past the spiked corridor that only mist could pass through?
Even with a triple jump you can't avoid those spikes AND open the door AND go through the grate. I can see her having a Jewel of Open maybe... but mist?
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In Reply To #37
Not to mention that there are only two rings in the castle that allow an adventurer below the clock room. How the hell did Maria get there?
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Non-playable characters aren't limited by the constraints of playable ones. To get past the spiked corridor, she could have jumped from one of the bell towers onto the roof, then entered the room at the end through one of the windows.
As for the rings, there could have been two pairs, or some other method to get down there.
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She used double heart refresh glitch to get there. :P :P :P
Not that it's possible for characters with no menu, but hell, explaination as good as others. Better than "she used her 'NPC teleporter' to get there."
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She had spike armor on so the spikes didn't hurt her. That's how I always thought she got into that room after that long corridor of spikes.
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Ooh! I have a good one for that! Maria doesn't exist, she is a figment of Alucard's imagination and Castlevania is all a really bad dream he had after eating too many burritos! Either that, or Maria has super-dooper superior powers that have not yet been reveealed to us. Or, more logically, she rode through the spikey room on her dragon.
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Ooh! I have a good one for that! Maria doesn't exist, she is a figment of Alucard's imagination and Castlevania is all a really bad dream he had after eating too many burritos! Either that, or Maria has super-dooper superior powers that have not yet been reveealed to us. Or, more logically, she rode through the spikey room on her dragon.
...and through the mist grate. :P
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Maybe she just climbed through the outside and into a window?
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...and through the mist grate. :P
oh yeah, that would be a problem for her, hmm, I guess she could go out a window and come back in after she passed that grate. :?
oh and sorry about the rom thing
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In Reply To #45
I'm pretty sure it's Dracula's magic. :D
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oh and sorry about the rom thing
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99% of roms are copyrighted. Even romhacks. Unless such rom is written from grounds up or made out of freeware/open source stuff it's copyrighted. Just because the game was modified doesn't mean the original author/company doesn't have rights to it anymore, that's what all the copyright stuff was made for after all.
If you take for example mona lisa, draw a moustache, a cigar, bleeding background and a hat you still can't claim it's yours. It's still mona lisa, just butchered. :P
ah, okay gotcha. My bad.
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I've said it several times, and I'll say it again...Maria is a Belmont. There's your explanation. Yoko I don't know about...I still locked up around that "Witch in the service of the Catholic Church" bit.
And as for the new DS title, I'd settle for putting CV2 and CV3 on the same cart with updated graphics and music. It shouldn't be that difficult to do. I'd personally prefer it go on PSP, but DS might be the safer option in terms of sales.
IGA is running out of material. Aside from remakes he's got:
1. The 1897 game. Which would be very nice, and go a long ways towards branching the storyline away from Bram Stoker.
2. The 1999 game. The grand finale. And something that should be handled with definate care.
- John
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Proof: Some people like Sonia but hate Legends because it didn't do her justice.
Truth.
Thinking about it, has Castlevania ever had any really good female characters that weren't a: annoying and/or b: damsels in distress? Sypha, I guess, but she never really said much :-/
I liked Maria and Sonia. I'm withholding judgment on Charolette until I get a chance to play PoR. I dunno about anyone else, but Maria worked well enough in SotN. Was pretty cool in Saturn NitM. And though she was crippled in the remake, she was tolerable enough. I think too many people bash her based on the 12 year old anime girl in Rondo. IGA even admitted the original development team just threw her in as a joke in Rondo.
- John
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In Reply To #49
He does have the span of time between Lament of Innocence and CVIII to play around in as well, doesn't he? What were the Belmonts doing after Mathias betrayed Leon but before Mathias became Dracula :)
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In Reply To #37
Well she can summon a phoenix to carry her, or her hippogriff and such. That room had windows iirc. As for the clock tower thing, I can't say how..... could just be there is another way to open it, but thats just dumb and thats what SotN story fails..... like every other castlevania story.
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...and through the mist grate. :P
Oj, well I haven't actually played the game so I don't know, I just figured it was a room with spiky walls floors and ceilings. Maybe she punched a hole in it? Or the dragon she rode bit it off?
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In Reply To #49
Actually, he can do whatever he wants. He could do something before LoI (I would prefer something about Joachim, him having his own game hopefully. ;D) or the gap between LoI and CVIII. He might also do something about what happens far after DoS. Remember, Arikado said that someone would once again follow in Drac's dark footsteps, even if it wasn't Soma.
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In Reply To #49
Actually, he can do whatever he wants. He could do something before LoI (I would prefer something about Joachim, him having his own game hopefully. ;D)
Honestly, I think basing a game on Joachim is kind of lame.
That, to me, would be like basing a game off Dmitri or Dario from DoS. Their all enemies there to move the plot to the next scene. Besides if you really want to play as Joachim you can in LoI
But yes, IGA Can do whatever he wants to with the series
1. The 1897 game. Which would be very nice, and go a long ways towards branching the storyline away from Bram Stoker.
2. The 1999 game. The grand finale. And something that should be handled with definate care.
These are not the only two stories left. They're going to keep on coming up with them and making them even if they suck because at the end of the day it's still just a business. The 1999 game is going to happen at some point, but I don't think it will be either of the next 2, but I could be wrong. As for anything relating to Bram Stoker's Dracula I think the only thing we're ever going to get is the connection from Quincy Morris to John and Johnathon from Bloodlines and PoR. I don't think they'll ever actually do a game around that.
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IGA is running out of material. Aside from remakes he's got:
1. The 1897 game. Which would be very nice, and go a long ways towards branching the storyline away from Bram Stoker.
2. The 1999 game. The grand finale. And something that should be handled with definate care.
IGA's got more ideas than that. He's already brought up the ides of:
1. 1999(as you said)
2. 1897(as you said)
3. Something taking place in betwee, LoI and CV3, where "the Belmonts were fighting "other" vampires. (Note: You can make a LOT of games taking place in THIS period since there's some centuries in between LoI and CV4).
4. Direct sequel to HoD(which follows Juste's adventures AFTER the events of HoD).
5. Direct Sequel to SotN(which follows Alucard's adventures AFTER the events of SotN).
6. The story of how the Belmonts lost the power to wield the whip and had to give it up to the Morris clan.(This can actually be put side-to-side with the SotN sequel, as both would take place around the same time).
Those were the ideas he's talked about in various interviews. Not to mention ideas of having a female Belmont starring in a modern-themed CV game, or even a Black Belmont(or vampire hunter) who was inspired by the Blade movies(IGA seemingly likes them).
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5. Direct Sequel to SotN(which follows Alucard's adventures AFTER the events of SotN).
He puts himself to sleep. The End.
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http://www.dreadcentral.com/node/25496
Here's your sequel to Symphony.....I guess this is the part where Alucard becomes female and hates all things holy....
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Honestly, I think basing a game on Joachim is kind of lame.
That, to me, would be like basing a game off Dmitri or Dario from DoS. Their all enemies there to move the plot to the next scene. Besides if you really want to play as Joachim you can in LoI
Yes, you're right, it does sound ridiculous, but I just love Joachim so much that I really want to have a game where he is the main player. LoI Joachim mode is not the same, but IMO, it had the best ending of any CV game. ;D Just because I think Joachim would have been a much cooler Dracula. Does Mathias/Drac manipulate and control swords with telekenisis? I didn't think so.
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In Reply To #57
I don't recall that ever being specified. Maybe Alucard nodded that going to sleep was his plan, but we all know where he was for the Sorrow games and how much he was aware of the events of 1999. While he implied slumber was what he was going to do, there isn't any proof to that he actually did that. Especially if IGA has an idea for Alucard's adventures right after SotN.
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In Reply To #60
I thought I heard that he fell in love Maria, and she stopped him from putting himself to sleep.
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In Reply To #61
Fanfic. There was nothing of this sort ever stated anywhere. Only Maria fell for him and ran after him when he left her and Richter.
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Where'd you read that? Cuz all there is is the ending of SotN.
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In Reply To #62
That's what I was referring to. I saw a youtube video of that ending and it seemed to me as though they would spend the rest of their lives together. It seemed to me like Maraia was saying her final goodbyes to Richter, as if she wouldn't see him again.
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In Reply To #62
That's what I was referring to. I saw a youtube video of that ending and it seemed to me as though they would spend the rest of their lives together. It seemed to me like Maraia was saying her final goodbyes to Richter, as if she wouldn't see him again.
Yeah the best ending to symphony does kinda hint at that.
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I think the next title will be based on Bram's novel. Because if you look at the time line poster from the POR pre-order package it states...
1897 "Belmont descendant Quincy Morris keeps Dracula at bay." Now... After the 1917 time at the bottom it states something about Elizabeth Bartley stating "Note from the developer: A secret to explain the reasons why a 16th century vampire shows up in the w0th century is now being planned."
...heh
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Yeah the best ending to symphony does kinda hint at that.
It probably won't count, but so does the strat. guide for the original SOTN. (By Brady Games) Actually, it hints at it strongly that Alucard likes Maria.
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Those Strat guides are stupid, I wouldn't trust it on anything.
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Brady makes horrible strat guides. DoubleJump are better, IMO. And regarding the timeline, I was stoked when they had the little developer note about Bartley, but considering how some of the non-canon games were re-admitted into the timeline, and that was obviously done by the American publishers, I wonder how valid the info really was? Why hasn't IGA been asked about this in any interview? Why hasn't he hinted about it. He isn't even hinting much to what his next two games will be. He's tossed ideas around, but never gave any confirmation regarding what they are.
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6. The story of how the Belmonts lost the power to wield the whip and had to give it up to the Morris clan.(This can actually be put side-to-side with the SotN sequel, as both would take place around the same time).
The Belmont's lost the power? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought they willingly passed it on to the Morris line...
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They lost the ability to wield it, hence until 1999, they were forbid to touch it. IGA said that there was "something" that happened after SotN which "caused" the Belmonts to forfit their vampire hunting duties until 1999. Until then, they'd hand over the Vampire Killer to the Morris clan. They DID willfully pass it, but they, themselves, couldn't touch it. And there is a "reason", but only IGA has the idea to "why" this was. The only hint we have is that it's something that involved Richter(who's the last main branch Belmont to wield the VK).
And it's my opinion, but I would think if IGA did make this game(which is likely to happen someday), it would be the final piece in the Dracula X trilogy(not counting Dracula XX).
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I dunno. There's a REASON why the only difference between the best ending and the next best ending is that she runs after Alucard. Otherwise, your only reward for getting over 200% is that you learn that Maria has the hots for you (which would be lame). I'm calling "plot forshadowing".
The Morris switchover could be easily explained that Shaft screwed with Richter's head, and the Belmont's lost their power as a result of which (not to beat a dead horse, but this would be another nail XX's coffin). Either way, Rondo is the last hurrah for the Belmont's until they somehow gain said power back in 1999. It would make the '99 game more interesting if Julius has to gain Belmont powers back as the game progresses.
- John
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The Morris switchover could be easily explained that Shaft screwed with Richter's head, and the Belmont's lost their power as a result of which (not to beat a dead horse, but this would be another nail XX's coffin).
- John
That doesn't logically follow at all. Shaft messed with Richter's mind in SotN, not Rondo/DXX/DXC. Again, the absense of Shaft from DXX doesn't preclude his presense in SotN. You seem to have an odd mental block on that simple concept.
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In Reply To #73
According to many people DXX doesn't exist in the canon storyline, Iga included I believe.
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It probably won't count, but so does the strat. guide for the original SOTN. (By Brady Games) Actually, it hints at it strongly that Alucard likes Maria.
Well, who couldn't like her?? ;D I always thought that was all set in stone, but I guess thats because I still haven't played SotN.
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Wolfman,
He messes with Richter in some indeterminate period between Rondo and SotN actually. He's screwed up before Alucard enters the castle. Hence, Maria goes looking for him. And really, it's just a theory that could conceivably work in the context of the current story without having to add too many additional elements. I'm not saying it's the one true explanation.
And no, I'm not going to have this debate with you again. Because no matter how much stuff is modified, omitted, in error, or just plain fucked up, you're going to come back with "But it can still be saved because item X is not totally important to the plot!". Using DracXX in favor of Rondo turns too many plot elements into so many MacGuffins. DracXX isn't even in the canonical timeline IGA published, so its a pointless argument in any event. Sorta like how my idea of trying to bring Sonia back in the fold went nowhere.
- John
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In Reply To #76
Indeed, Shaft doesn't mess with Richter's mind until AFTER the events of Dracula X.
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While this is true, and Dracula XX is listed as a title that documented the event, Creator intent for Symphony of the Night was that it continued from RoB's perspective, not Dracula XX. IGA's said, in the past, that SotN was created to continue on the story from Rondo of Blood, specifically. And in no way, in the past, has Dracula XX ever been refered to as "Rondo of Blood", hence IGA knew what game he was connecting SotN to, and what game he wanted to be the representative of those events. It's only further pushed by IGA's bias for the games he love. RoB is one of his top three(quoted as being his second favorite CV game of all time, following closely after CV3), and we all know his bias is a big concern in how he makes his games. And while personal enjoyment or following of the canon timeline is subjective as long as the events remain the same(interchange RoB for Dracula XX), to see the canon as how IGA wants it to be seen, by his intentions and intentions following that which paved the way for SotN's development, RoB is the game which depicted Konami's canon, until IGA or a new developer says otherwise.
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In Reply To #78
People have been putting words into IGA's mouth for far too long, especially concerning Dracula XX. Saying that the SotN team used Rondo as their reference isn't the same thing as dismissing DXX. That's an unwarranted inference. The simple fact that DXX is included in the timeline as approved by IGA, and that it is NOT among the "other stories" expressly excluded from the timeline as noted, speaks volumes about this issue. DXX also depicts the Dracula X events. Some of the details between Rondo and DXX (or among Rondo, DXX, and DXC) differ, but not to any degree that contradicts events either depcited in SotN or in the rest of the timeline. Certain people need to deal with the fact that DXX is NOT a "non-canon" game just because they hate it.
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It depicts them yes, but in a different light, like Haunted Castle does to Cv1. They both have only the core plot the same (Hero vs drac) but the rest of the stuff differs. Completely different levels, new characters, with the old ones gone, stuff like that.
So in short, it's mentioned on the timeline because it's kind of similar, but only mentioned as an afterthought, a "there's that other game that exists too, but it's more of an addon. The first title is the correct interpretation of the story."
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It depicts them yes, but in a different light, like Haunted Castle does to Cv1.
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You say drac was resurrected by shaft. In dxx shaft doesn't exist at all however. Also it's not people putting words into iga's mouth. You chose which ones of his words to accept and which to ignore or trivialise. He said himself that the events of rondo are the correct version of the plot, and he was the one who mentioned about annette and maria not being related and dxx screwing even such trivial matter. Otherwise why would sotn have so many referrences to rondo and zero to dxx, which had all new stages, changed or new characters, new plot and even totally different drac? Maybe because it counts ar much as order of shadows? :o
Also you're making a big deal out of such stupid thing, just like those legends fanboys who refuse to accept their little game has little influence on some piece of paper and dismiss all valid points, then repeat everything once they
runs out of arguements. :D :o
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In Reply To #82
Shaft isn't seen in DXX, but that doesn't mean he doesn't exist.
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Shaft isn't seen in DXX, but that doesn't mean he doesn't exist.
Yes it does. What's not mentioned in the game and manual might as well not exist at all. Hell, I could say that in dxx Drac was revived by a bunch of transvestite faeries but they were simply not seen in the game and it'd hold just as much truth as your shaft comment.
Not to mention shaft is dead and just a ghost of his former self in sotn, yet in dxx he's not even making an appearance, much less dying. And Richter somehow magically knows him personally, even if according to xx he never met him. Although I can pretty much guess which one of your pro-xx-quotes™ you'll reuse to counter this.
I originally said that the game was just an alternate take on the original, just like haunted castle was on castlevania 1. It was you who started posting all that crap as if I said that dracula xx is a blight on that timeline everyone takes too seriously and that the game needs to be eradicated, and dragged me into this stupid conversation.
I don't give a damn really, Dracula XX is a pretty mediocre game with ugly artwork not holding the candle even to its japanese boxart/manual, has horrbily washed out colors (almost as bad as hod) and is not worth debating over in my opinion. Rondo always was, is and will be the only true story for that date for me and 95% of remaining cv fans including Iga, and your comments will not change that no matter how much you'll try to.
The first original game is usually the one that's included in the timeline as far as castlevania goes. Not spin-offs like all the cv1 remakes or dxx. Hell, I bet in the future even Dracula X Chronicles will just join that list under rondo, because it's still just a remake, not the original.
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Yes it does. What's not mentioned in the game and manual might as well not exist at all. Hell, I could say that in dxx Drac was revived by a bunch of transvestite faeries but they were simply not seen in the game and it'd hold just as much truth as your shaft comment.
Sorry.
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You dragged yourself into this "stupid conversation."
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You could've just as well ignore my comment instead of attacking me by using all those pompous encyclopedia-driven high and mighty big words to make it look like you're smarter than me.
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Actually, Kensuke originally butted in with his comment on "another nail in DXX's coffin."
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What is this all about? Wolfman, Serio isn't trying to force you to believe DXX cannot substitute Rondo, it's just that SotN was made with Rondo in mind. If you believe otherwise, fine, but resorting to childish insults isn't helping.
Agree to disagree, or something.
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Knowing that Dracula X is a weak REMAKE of Rondo of Blood, why would anybody consider Dracula X canonical or to be a seperate event from Rondo?
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What is this all about? Wolfman, Serio isn't trying to force you to believe DXX cannot substitute Rondo, it's just that SotN was made with Rondo in mind. If you believe otherwise, fine, but resorting to childish insults isn't helping.
Agree to disagree, or something.
I agree, if you like XX better wolf play that one. :)
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I just don't understand why everyone hates DXX so much....it plays just like any other Castlevania game. It may not be exactly the same as Rondo, but I like it better that way. It's 2 completely different games. If Konami did release Rondo in the states, I don't think people would like it half as much as they do because its such a special find now. It's a great game and I think everyone would still like it, but it doubt it would have the same hype that it has today.
So, be glad DXX isn't exactly the same as Rondo, because (As much as I like XX) because it makes Rondo look better in comparison .
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I just don't understand why everyone hates DXX so much....it plays just like any other Castlevania game. It may not be exactly the same as Rondo, but I like it better that way. It's 2 completely different games. If Konami did release Rondo in the states, I don't think people would like it half as much as they do because its such a special find now. It's a great game and I think everyone would still like it, but it doubt it would have the same hype that it has today.
So, be glad DXX isn't exactly the same as Rondo, because (As much as I like XX) because it makes Rondo look better in comparison .
XX just doesn't have the same feel to me as the others, and the art is below castlevania standards. It also takes out the fair element in the dracula fight by having bottomless pits in it. The music also aside from a few tracks I really didn't care for. The ending is sort of confusing the first run through cuz there's no talking it's a big visual experience. There's fun to be had in XX don't get me wrong but it just feels incomplete when I play it. :)
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I dont think I've played XX, I thoght I did.... but now that I think on it, I don't think I did. I played Vampire's Kiss, man, Dracula in that was god awful. Unless they are one and the same...... but if they are..... I don't remember that castle thing in the background of that ss taht Serio gave up there.
But then again, I don't remember alot from that game, just that Dracula was a blue thing and you can fall into holes while fighting him.
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Wow, it's HILARIOUS how OT this went, mainly because you long-time castlevania fans and forum nerds are so easy to argue about crap. ::) LOL!!!! ;D :D :) ;) ;D :D :P :-X
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I was going to say that too. And like the other topic(regarding the Official Konami Timeline), it seemed to be steered out of control into yet another "Wolfman Jake's defense for Dracula XX" topic, which this and the other were clearly not about.
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So, uh...any details on the new DS title yet?
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In Reply To #94
Vampire's Kiss is the European release of XX
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But no, nothing new on the DS front. I'm hoping something...even one screen shot by the end of the month
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In Reply To #99
Yeah, but its not like that will be accurate. I saw some preliminary shots of other recent CVs and they were not like the real game.
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Oh btw:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserio.i-xcell.com%2Fimage%2Fdrxx2.png&hash=280a25f7c492802746fa579db78abdcf)
A second dracula's castle in dracula xx once you reach the final level? Could it be... an alternate reality? *gasp* :o :o ;D
Hahahaha. How could they have missed that?
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Wow, some of you guys are priceless.
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i just bought dawn of sorrow.... i've sort of missed out on the whole handheld thing... may last handheld was gameboy pocket... but i got a DS ... i love dawn of sorrow... is portrait of ruin any good? i was also thing of buying the older GBA castlevanias because the work on DS
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In Reply To #103
If you haven't already played through much of Dawn of Sorrow, you might want to stop now and pick up the Castlevania Double Pack for Gameboy Advance.
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Hahahaha. How could they have missed that?
ROTFLMFAO!!!!! I can't believe I didn't see that before!! That is hilarious!!
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Wow, some of you guys are priceless. Many of your comments make it painfully obvious that you're not even really reading the posts, which means you're chiming in on this topic just to boost your own egos.
Yeah I am but I can read between the lines, you like XX better so your trying to convince others that it could replace rondo, why else would you go to such lengths to try and prove this if you like Rondo better? I along with others just want the thread to get back on track if the thread was about PC engine rondo vs Dracula XX ther'd be no reason for us to chime in.
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In Reply To #106
You're reading what isn't there, The Last Belmont. You ask why would I defend something that I don't like as much as something else? I ask you, why shouldn't I? Should I only defend the things I like or agree with? Shouldn't we defend, blind of our own preferences and prejudices? That is a very hard concept for many people to understand, and is probably why a majority of people here are so damned confused about my position.
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In the end....
who cares?
Oh btw:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fserio.i-xcell.com%2Fimage%2Fdrxx2.png&hash=280a25f7c492802746fa579db78abdcf)
A second dracula's castle in dracula xx once you reach the final level? Could it be... an alternate reality? *gasp* :o :o ;D
*facepalm*
I guess that's the Castlevania budget for you...
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I remember pointing out this glitch over the old forum a very long time ago. I also made the discovery while hacking Dracula XX that, in one of the stair weapons throw frames the 8x8 tiles on Richter's head is replaced with the ball of his morning star. You have to be quick to catch it, but it's there. I thought my ROM was corrupt, so I fired up the SNES cart and the glitch is actually in the game!!
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In case nobody has seen it:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvampiria.meeka.net%2Fimages%2Fglitch.png&hash=34a75dec7c743df143084edcd764dc27)
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In Reply To #110
Konami Quality Control in action! Are there any graphic data dumps of DXX out there? It would be interesting to know if that background in Stage 7 is sheer laziness or a programming f-up. Yeah, it's sad either way.
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In Reply To #110
Pshhh hahahaha. Just add this to the list of many things that makes Richter tough as nails!
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Konami Quality Control in action! Are there any graphic data dumps of DXX out there? It would be interesting to know if that background in Stage 7 is sheer laziness or a programming f-up. Yeah, it's sad either way.
It's fucking stupidity. And it's Nagoya's fault. Not Konami in general. Nagoya struck out three times with Castlevania: DXX, Legends, and Saturn Symphony (although the last one was a good effort). Don't drag Konami down. They have a long history of making very high quality and popular games.
Also, here's another visual representation of why DXX is *WRONG*:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhome.nakhon.net%2Fpipe%2FGameAll%2FCVAll%2FindexPic%2FCVDraculaXPic%2FCVDraculaX_Boss7Dracula.jpg&hash=00dee1111e79449a2b57637c5f5cd432)
This doesn't look even REMOTELY like the throne room in Rondo/SotN/DXC.
- John
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In Reply To #113
Konami, in general, can still really phone it in from time to time, and not just on Nagoya's watch. You should see some of the forehead-slapping mistakes KCET has let slip through into the Bemani games, DDR in particular.
As for the way Dracula's throne room looks in DXX, that's way more forgivable than a morning star stuck on Richter's head or the castle map screen being used as the background for part of the castle itself.
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Personally speaking, it was good to purchase and play Vampire's Kiss when Rondo of Blood was unavailable, outside of importing.
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Personally I never really cared much for either game, because in my view they felt de-evolved from Super Castlevania 4's awesome mechanics, dark, moody atmosphere, and beautifully composed soundtrack.
I always hated playing as Richter and being juggled across the screen by a low-level bat or medusa head. Very frustrating to lose half your life because you can't utilize your whip to kill an enemy that can attack you from the air. While Rondo isn't as bad, the SNES game was HORRIBLE with regard to this.
At least with the NES games that moment of invincibility between hits helped to compensate for bad control.
I also hated XX's bright and vibrant graphics, compared to the more darker graphics of Super Castlevania 4 and even Bloodlines.
In my view the anime in Rondo only helped detract from the feel of Castlevania, but XX's 'art' (if you want to call it that) was just nauseating.
When I think of Castlevania I think of a dark, morbid, lifeless and depressing place, and Dracula X just doesn't evoke that feeling in me the way other games in the series do.
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In Reply To #116
I liked RoB's anime characters. They had that "old school 80s anime" feel to them, even though RoB was a 90s game. Dracula XX, for some reason, I've always thought the art, though being very good, made the characters look like they'd be from a Tim Burton movie.
And I disagree regarding RoB's music and SCV4's music. IMO, RoB's music was way more up the scale in quality and overall songs. I didn't care for SCV4's music. A lot of the songs, IMO, were just so damn annoying(urg, I HATE the Treasury song with a vengeance) and the synthing was super artificial sounding.
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In Reply To #117
Super Castlevania IV's music is very moody and atmospheric, tying in very well with the game's overall gothic presentation. Rondo has good music too, but it is much more "peppy" by comparison. SCIV has more ambiance, while Rondo has more energy.
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In Reply To #118
I prefer the music of Rondo, just because I prefer more 'energetic' pieces. But Rondo had all of the best classics songs like Vampire Killer, Bloody Tears, The Beginning, and it introduced Bloodlines and Illusionary Dance.
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In Reply To #118
Had it been of better synth quality, I might've felt different, but yeah, even though I know it's an early gen SNES game and a lot of games from that area had almost NES-quality synthing, I just can't get into it. It gets under my skin, and not in a good way. It's like gleeps and gloops, like some synthisizer tracks that might come out of a horror film in the early(VERY early) 80s. A few other tracks sound straight out of the 70s, and some(like the caven with the water drips) sound more like something that you'd hear in an RPG than the CV series. But yeah, the two songs that get on my nerves the most are the area of the water ruins where the blocks are falling from the sky(that's ear grating music!!), and the treasury.
And yeah, I love energetic tracks. The pulse pounding gets the tempo of the battle up. But some ambient songs are good too. It just, the synthing has to do the ambience justice.
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In Reply To #118
I prefer the music of Rondo, just because I prefer more 'energetic' pieces. But Rondo had all of the best classics songs like Vampire Killer, Bloody Tears, The Beginning, and it introduced Bloodlines and Illusionary Dance.
Super CV IV had Vampire killer, Bloody Tears and The Beginning too in the last 2 stages. I prefer IV's music to Rondo
I also think that IV's version of Bloody Tears is the best
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oh, Plus, Super Castlevania IV is better because it's the first introduction of the 2 coolest side villians:
Slogra and Gaibon!
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I think the ds title is gonna have a unique setting
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I think the only thing we do know about the upcoming DS titles is that it will have full blown co-op, at leaste if IGA stays true to his word.
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If IGA were to borrow elements from Castlevania IV in terms of its dark, gloomy atmosphere and Michiru inspiration from its foreboding score, I'd be looking forward to the next DS game with that aforementioned excitement.
Ah, wild dreams . . .
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In Reply To #121
I prefer RoB's Vampire Killer, the original version of Beginnings, and CV Chronicle's arranged version of Bloody Tears.
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Super CV IV had Vampire killer, Bloody Tears and The Beginning too in the last 2 stages. I prefer IV's music to Rondo
I also think that IV's version of Bloody Tears is the best
Oh. Well, w/e.
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Super CV IV had Vampire killer, Bloody Tears and The Beginning too in the last 2 stages. I prefer IV's music to Rondo
I also think that IV's version of Bloody Tears is the best
I agree, IV's bloody tears is fantastic I used to put that track on repeat and listen to it all period in my keyboarding class back when I was in school.
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In Reply To #124
i certianly hope so.
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In Reply To #121
When I first heard the rendition of Bloody Tears from SCIV, it immediately struck me as the greatest videogame music I had ever heard up to that point. Mind you, I rented it pretty close to the time it was first released in the US, so things only got better from there, but at the time, it was incredible.
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The SCV4 map screen Bloody Tears is really beautiful (although short), too.
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In Reply To #1
I didn't realize that there was a new game coming out on DS. Does anyone know what is going to happen in that game? Will it fianally be the war in 1999 or something else like what happens to Soma next?
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In Reply To #132
This whole thread is about speculating what it will be about...