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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Kale on November 28, 2007, 12:49:54 AM
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Or the a similar type? Cuz I looked around and nothing really seems to match in terms of time period and looks. Not really anyway. (Yes I was very bored and still am)
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Looks reminiscent of a swashbuckler. I don't know if that's the official name. But it's the long sword used by pirates, usually for stabbing/lunging, and has the large hard-guard. It's pretty much a rapier. In some incarnations of the Three Musketeers, they use a similar sword.
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Do you mean like the type of sword he has?
I wold say something like a cutless or maybe a rapier, but its probably not based on anything specific.
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Alucard carries many swords, so to answer your question i'm going to go by official artwork, and imo even though the two swords below are slightly different they both appear to be Masonic swords ( Symbols of justice and power handed down through the freemasons as their allegience to God )
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi7.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy289%2Fsven416%2Falucard2.jpg&hash=ef86cb07887b766f594655d0677465c84b3088b4)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi7.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy289%2Fsven416%2Fmasonic2.jpg&hash=687d9de6fd7cb0b301a59b592096e496635a92a8)
and this one too
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi7.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy289%2Fsven416%2Falucard.jpg&hash=393126936a1fa0f87c83a14caa7618f1ccbe8e23)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi7.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy289%2Fsven416%2Fmasonic.jpg&hash=58f0636f5bbacd87533b7b756f9bdd094431d4a3)
There was never one definate sword throughout the ages so many designs overlap, however the masonic swords were around 17th, 18th Centuary so should fit in with at least SOTN... 1796? but there would have been very similar swords long before that.
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oooo, that looks like it. The closest I found was 15th century swor dand it doesn't look like it at all.
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didn't he make them himself or is that fanon?
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Who alucard? Well the "alucard sword" which is what iM guessing what hes holding in the official pictures has the description that it was a family heirloom.
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anyone know teh name of Alucard's sword? Or the a similar type?
The type of sword that Alucard uses that is called "Alucard sword" is technically a broadsword. Some pictures show a skinny sword (like the one where he's holding it strait up) and that would be a longsword, but I think it's just at an angle; so you can't see how wide it is.
The picture that shows him swinging it clearly shows a broadsword. They were not very common in the late 1700's but Alucard was around in the 1400's when that type of sword was very common.
edit:
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=broadsword&gbv=2
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I actually take longsword lessons at the Royal armouries here in England.
Not all of the weapons we use look alike but they are all longswords - usually called bastard swords or hand and a halfs.
They dont all look alike as their development needs changed from 1350 to around 1530, this was because of plate armour advancement from the more common ( At the time ) chain mail and coat of plates. http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=coat+of+plates&gbv=2
In early longswords you will see they are thinner as armour was less technically advanced then and there was no need for thicker heavier blades, it was also a good way to keep the weight of a weapon down. The advancement of plate armour caused swords to be developed in a newer fashion and you will find that later period longswords took on what is known as a riser ( the ridge down the middle ) which gives the blade a diamond cross section and improves structural integrity. This keeps the blade strong when thrusting into an opponents armour as many other blades would fail in battle.
You will also notice that nearer the hilt the blade will sometimes become thicker and wider then taper towards the foible or "tip", this is to push apart the plates of armour during a thrust.
In modern usage, "broadsword" inappropriately refers to a category of swords, specifically those whose blade geometry is designed for cutting and slashing attacks, as opposed to the fencing weapons and their emphasis on thrusts and stabs.
This began after the advent of the slimmer-bladed rapier, smallsword and epee during the Renaissance, and was picked up by museum curators during the 19th century as a catch-all for all slashing swords, including the Medieval arming sword, longsword and greatsword.
So technically the picture showing Alucard swinging the sword IS a longsword as it comes under the broadsword category of today's historians. you can clearly see he has room for at least another half hand if need be.
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Wrongo!!
hand and a half or bastard swords are much bigger than broadswords or longswords (longer and wider at the base of the blade), and broadswords and longswords are not the same thing. Just because you are taking lessons in sword-play, doesn't mean that your instructor is the "end all" of sword nomenclature.
If he wants (or if you want) to lump all swords together and call them all longswords, that's fine--but quoting poorly thought-out wikipedia articles doesn't make a broadsword a longsword.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadsword (<--caught you:P)
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In Reply To #10
Woah.....calm down there amigo. No need to get so upity about the topic. Sounds to me like you're the one who thinks they're the "end all" of Sword nomenclature.
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What Legion said.
Technically, broadswords, longswords, claymores, zweih
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Wrongo!!
If he wants (or if you want) to lump all swords together and call them all longswords, that's fine--but quoting poorly thought-out wikipedia articles doesn't make a broadsword a longsword.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadsword (<--caught you:P)
First of all you might notice that only the last paragraph of my response was quoted from wikipedia to cross reference with the information supplied in in the paragraphs that came before it.
If you want a definiative answer to what sword Alucard actually uses - look up a guy called Ewart Oakeshott, who has a globally accepted system for the definition of swords... longswords should come under type XII
Broadswords are very closely related and heres a link to a Non-wikipedia article to evidence it
http://www.myarmoury.com/review_aa_bohemian.html
also, take note of the very last paragraph, under the Conclusion. you should see it is actually a hand and a half.
Unfortunately i'm sure you'll be able to deny this is accurate too as with all things on the internet theres very little way of making sure it's legitamate but at least it isnt editable by anyone unlike wiki.
Furthermore here's another non wiki article from "ARMA" the guys who actually do re-enactments in full harness.
http://www.thearma.org/essays/broadsword.htm
So after reading that - really - broadswords are basket hilted and nothing more....
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whatever guys, if you wanna call all swords longswords, go ahead--have fun...bye.