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Title: Richter Belmont?
Post by: darkmanx_429 on October 08, 2011, 11:01:04 PM
I am trying to find a little more about the history of Richter Belmont. Where was he born at? I know he as born in 1773...
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: A-Yty on October 09, 2011, 05:43:35 AM
Who knows? It's the same thing with all the Belmonts; not much is told about their specific origins. It's a German name, but..
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: darkmanx_429 on October 09, 2011, 10:12:21 AM
Who knows? It's the same thing with all the Belmonts; not much is told about their specific origins. It's a German name, but..
That is not entirely true. What about the manga or comics?  Does anyone know or have specific information? Doing the math, Richter was 18 in 1792 so Richter was born in 1774. He was a decendent from Simon Belmont, so who did Simon ended up with after Simon's quest? Come on guys, I know we have alot of sharp minds on the forum, we can figure it out. (I had a easier time tracing the linage of the Van Helsing's...)
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: X on October 09, 2011, 11:00:57 AM
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That is not entirely true. What about the manga or comics?  Does anyone know or have specific information? Doing the math, Richter was 18 in 1792 so Richter was born in 1774. He was a decendent from Simon Belmont, so who did Simon ended up with after Simon's quest? Come on guys, I know we have alot of sharp minds on the forum, we can figure it out. (I had a easier time tracing the linage of the Van Helsing's...)

Richter can't be 18 years old in Rondo. He's 24 in SotN according to the manual. Subtract his current age by five years and we find that in Rondo he is 19 years of age. SNES Dracula X manual it mentions Richter to be 19 years old.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: A-Yty on October 09, 2011, 11:06:08 AM
Well sure, we speculate all the time to fill in the gaps through the magic of fanon, but os there much official information about them? The mangas and such are more like extra stories. They don't tell much about their backstories.

I think of Richter as a Jason Todd -style character (minus the murderous psycho motif); he might have had a tough time growing up and this led to him bottling up a lot of hate. His hate made him powerful</Palpatine>, but it also made him vulnerable to Shaft's manipulations.

I think this belongs in the CV section.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: darkmanx_429 on October 09, 2011, 11:49:30 AM
Richter can't be 18 years old in Rondo. He's 24 in SotN according to the manual. Subtract his current age by five years and we find that in Rondo he is 19 years of age. SNES Dracula X manual it mentions Richter to be 19 years old.
cool...what about the birthplace?
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: Arma on October 09, 2011, 02:44:32 PM
some time ago I found a site with some background story of him and even a timeline giving notion of particular events after SotN but I have no idea if that's official or fanfic, I'm guessing the later though.
I can't find that website anymore so I guess it's down now because I think it was hosted in GeoCities.  However back then I took the caution of copying some of the info just in case this happen:

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What happened in 1792...
It was a full moon night when Sageata (SHAFT), the Dark priest of Tirgo Mures, and his Sect of Arcana decided to revive Dracula, the Dark Lord of all Vampires; it is said, that he had been destroyed once and for all by Simon Belmont two centuries before.
Sageata was sure that, by serving Dracula faithfully, he would have been able to bring Chaos in the World, in order to dominate it, and to obtain the supreme power: immortality.
Meanwhile, the power of a young lad was about to awake...
Richter Belmont was the only son of Gheorghe Theodor Belmont and Irini Balic. His parents died during a terrible and quite misterioius fire in Tîrg Pasul. Richter was only 17 years old.
After a long period of sadness, his heart told him to leave and reach the village of Vatra Dornei. Indeed, he had no relative and so, he decided to go and search for a job.
In the end, he was able to find a place, as waiter, in the house of a French General. This man, François Renard de Givenchy, was the ambassador of France in the Ottoman territory. Despite of his role in the history of world, François was a good-hearthed man and a good friend of people.
He had also two graceful daughters: Annette and Maria. The former was 15 years-old and the latter only 10 years-old.
Since their first encounter, Richter and Annette become more and more close. The young lad had also a special friendship with Maria; she was very shy. but Richter was able to bring her happiness and fun.
It seemed to Richter to have a new family. He was not worried or tired of his duties as waiter. However, he begun to make terrible nightmares. These were the omen of his tragic Fate, the Fate of all the Belmonts... fighting against Dracula.
Two years later, a terrible fire broke out in Vatra Dornei, just like the one which had destroyed Richter's family, just when the young Belmont was in Snagov, hearing the suggestions of the friars of the ancient Benedictine monastery. Seeing the fire from the top of the hill where the sacred place had been built, Richter understood that he had immediatly to come back to the village.
Richter remembered what he had learned from his father and read in his ancestors' journal; he had taken away the legendary Sacred Whip Vampire Killer, memento of his family, when he had left his hometown. So, he had to use it !
He got into the wagon he had used to reach Snagov and ran the horses at full speed.
On the way back home, Death challenged Richter, trying to make him waste his time. Without any fear, Richter put him to flight and reached the village where the liable of that fire and of the one of two years before in Tîrg Pasul appeared: an horrible Behemoth (a monster similar to an enormous mutated billy goat, able to breathe fire).
Richter succeeded in ending the Behemoth's menace, but he was unable to avoid the kidnapping of Annette and Maria. Sageata had dared to challenge him !
Eventually, Richter was able to save Maria; the Duo succeeded in stopping the foul plan of Sageata by destroying Dracula and rescuing Annette and other prisoners.
Afterwards, Richter and Annette got married, but the groom misteriously disappeared four years later, on a full moon night.
Then Maria decided to go and look for him...
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: Gunlord on October 09, 2011, 05:13:18 PM
That's cool info, but is it official? It's hard to tell if the geocities site isnt around anymore...;_;
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: Arma on October 09, 2011, 08:30:36 PM
hard to tell, it was a french site. All the writings were mixed and there was no mention of source but it didn't said anything about being fanfiction either. There was a list of links similar to a blog, some were clearly fanfiction like a section called "Juste's journal" or something like that were Juste describes his life after the events of the game, I thought that part was super corny so I didn't read much of it. Then it was other link called "What happened in 1972..." which I copied in my previous comment.

I also remember that timeline and a prologue from RoB that described a Richter very different from the evil or weak one from SotN people mock all the time on discusion boards. It said something like Richter considers the all vampire hunting thing as a burden and that he had no interest on that until Shaft gets in the way, apparently he is the one who killed Richter's parents in an attemp to kill the entire family so it doesn't interfere with his plans, Richter survives the incident because he wasn't at home, it wans't detailed why. When he returns he finds his house burned down with his parents death inside but he never suspects the incident is related to Dracula, he thinks is an accident.

After the events of SotN he resumes his normal life putting aside the mission of the Belmont clan, I don't remember too well but according to the timeline of this website Richter takes on the bussines of his father in law and starts traveling Europe, during his travels he met two orphans he later adopts. In this part things get more intricate as Richter apparently decides to train the orphans instead of his own kids giving one of these orphans the VK in an attemp to relieve his descendants from the burden of becoming vampire hunters, which would be like an alternative version that explains the dissapearance of the clan for so long. It is also implied that those orphans may be ancestors of the heroes from Castlevania Bloodlines.

I'm guessing all of these could be one of two things; either fanfiction or fragments of reviews from japanese magazines this person could've translated and posted on their website.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: darkmanx_429 on October 10, 2011, 08:29:00 AM
some time ago I found a site with some background story of him and even a timeline giving notion of particular events after SotN but I have no idea if that's official or fanfic, I'm guessing the later though.
I can't find that website anymore so I guess it's down now because I think it was hosted in GeoCities.  However back then I took the caution of copying some of the info just in case this happen:
If that is a fanfic then it is an extremely good one. Hopefully, someone can help me trace down Richter's birthplace...
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: VladCT on October 10, 2011, 06:10:22 PM
some time ago I found a site with some background story of him and even a timeline giving notion of particular events after SotN but I have no idea if that's official or fanfic, I'm guessing the later though.
I can't find that website anymore so I guess it's down now because I think it was hosted in GeoCities.  However back then I took the caution of copying some of the info just in case this happen:
I noticed a glaring mistake: Maria never was Annette's birth sister, nor had Richter knew her pre-Rondo. Annette took her up as a stepsister sometime after Rondo's events.
And about Richter's birthplace, the first stage in Rondo is implied to be his hometown, and if you read a sign there it's explicitly stated to be Aljiba, so it's probably safe to assume that he was born there.
Oh, and shouldn't this be moved to the General Castlevania Discussion section? Technically this is one such topic.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on October 10, 2011, 06:27:01 PM
Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and move it.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: X on October 10, 2011, 09:14:37 PM
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cool...what about the birthplace?

Nope. I have no clue. But i think it's a safe bet that he was born in Romania. And I'd also have to agree with VladCT about Aljiba being hometown as I just really don't know at this point.

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He was a decendent from Simon Belmont, so who did Simon ended up with after Simon's quest? Come on guys, I know we have alot of sharp minds on the forum, we can figure it out

I don't think this one is a doozy to spell out since there was only one Castlevania game out there that depicted Simon getting married; Haunted Castle. His wife's name was Serena.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: Successor The Cruel on October 11, 2011, 12:43:05 AM
hard to tell, it was a french site. All the writings were mixed and there was no mention of source but it didn't said anything about being fanfiction either. There was a list of links similar to a blog, some were clearly fanfiction like a section called "Juste's journal" or something like that were Juste describes his life after the events of the game, I thought that part was super corny so I didn't read much of it.

Hey, I remember Juste's journal, or whatever it was called. I thought it was pretty cool. I forgot where I saw it, but it was years ago. I'd like to take a look at it again.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: darkmanx_429 on October 11, 2011, 07:01:13 PM
Nope. I have no clue. But i think it's a safe bet that he was born in Romania. And I'd also have to agree with VladCT about Aljiba being hometown as I just really don't know at this point.

I don't think this one is a doozy to spell out since there was only one Castlevania game out there that depicted Simon getting married; Haunted Castle. His wife's name was Serena.
I appreciate everyone helping me tracking down Richter's history. Back on topic, so the brithplace would be Aljiba, Romania?
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: darkmanx_429 on October 14, 2011, 12:46:40 PM
I noticed a glaring mistake: Maria never was Annette's birth sister, nor had Richter knew her pre-Rondo. Annette took her up as a stepsister sometime after Rondo's events.
And about Richter's birthplace, the first stage in Rondo is implied to be his hometown, and if you read a sign there it's explicitly stated to be Aljiba, so it's probably safe to assume that he was born there.
Oh, and shouldn't this be moved to the General Castlevania Discussion section? Technically this is one such topic.
One thing I noticed is that even though the first stage in Rondo is implied to be his hometown of Aljiba, it does look more like Jova from CV2? Is it a mistake?
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: thernz on October 14, 2011, 02:09:13 PM
Probably. Devs aren't infallible. It was just a nice easter egg with some goofs so I guess it's not really anything to ponder about.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: X on October 14, 2011, 06:09:31 PM
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One thing I noticed is that even though the first stage in Rondo is implied to be his hometown of Aljiba, it does look more like Jova from CV2? Is it a mistake?

It's been a century since we saw Aljiba in CV2 and the town has changed quite a bit as you play through it. So to me, it's not unexpected.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: thernz on October 14, 2011, 06:20:30 PM
A hundred years pass, so it looks like what another town looked like a hundred years ago.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: Anonym on October 14, 2011, 07:57:16 PM
Who knows? It's the same thing with all the Belmonts; not much is told about their specific origins. It's a German name, but..

I thought it was of latin origin, like in Belmondo.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: TheouAegis on October 14, 2011, 10:09:49 PM
Richter is Germanic. And so is Maria's and Annette's surname.

And as fun as this is, it's all kinda moot since Aljiba, Yuba Lake, Veros Woods are all fictitious places. So just say he was born in Aljiba if you believe that was his birthplace.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: X on October 15, 2011, 01:24:47 PM
A thought just came to mind and I'm wondering if anyone else here too has considered it. In the intro scene of Rondo before you play the game, we see Richter inside of a house nestled in the back woods before he rides into town. So I can assume he was born there and not in Aljiba. And since we don't have any info on that house this frees it up for fan interpretation.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: darkmanx_429 on October 15, 2011, 08:25:54 PM
I am about to see if I can reach some actual devs in Konami about the subject...lol
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: Husky on October 16, 2011, 07:20:29 AM
I believe a poster had it right, Konami kinda made the area surrounding Akumajo (which is what I call Dracula's castle) "based" of of real places names, but a lot of those places doesn't exist, I thought the Dungeon page itself had a lot of info on this stuff, back  when I originaly started posting, but I'm not sure if stuff was changed, as I haven't been to this site in the last 3 years.
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: crisis on October 16, 2011, 11:43:24 AM
Well I hope you will choose to stick around this time  :D :^)
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: Odile Kuronuma on October 16, 2011, 01:06:14 PM
Richter is Germanic. And so is Maria's and Annette's surname.

And as fun as this is, it's all kinda moot since Aljiba, Yuba Lake, Veros Woods are all fictitious places. So just say he was born in Aljiba if you believe that was his birthplace.
If by surname you mean last name, then you're wrong. Renard is the french word for "fox".
Something I noticed about the name Richter. It can also be used as a last name. And it's often used in the Alsace and Lorraine, two regions of France. Coincidence?
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: Ahasverus on October 16, 2011, 10:03:16 PM
Good luck in contacting Konami, if they have showed us something is that they don't care (or don't know?) that much abou the series backstory (or story!)  :P
I bet he was born in the countryside, just like Trevor. His clothes became noble in SOTN I assume he was given a noble title after he saved the country in ROB. (Juste was already rich so IDK what could have happened)
Title: Re: Richter Belmont?
Post by: Arma on October 19, 2011, 01:19:19 PM
I noticed a glaring mistake: Maria never was Annette's birth sister, nor had Richter knew her pre-Rondo. Annette took her up as a stepsister sometime after Rondo's events.

Yeah I noticed that too but then I remembered in Dracula X the girls are sisters, it would make sense in this case because the website was from the time before that game was taken out of the canon timeline