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Title: Dark Souls
Post by: Wallachia on October 10, 2011, 02:56:36 PM
Who else is playing and revelling in its' majesty? Seriously, I am blown away by the mood and art direction.. not to mention, difficulty.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Munchy on October 10, 2011, 08:39:37 PM
Haven't played it but watched my brother slog through it. Looks goddamn amazing, one of the few RPGs that is very appealing to me.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: thernz on October 10, 2011, 09:17:29 PM
Help, I need a PS3.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aridale on October 10, 2011, 09:34:08 PM
its on 360 too.. I got it and Ive got my ass kicked off me by the belfry gargolyes. I havent played since then. It is a damn amazing game tho. Its really really good
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: crisis on October 10, 2011, 09:51:39 PM
1. Do I have to play Demon's Souls to understand Dark Soul's?

2. Is there a storyline to this game?

3. Fun factor 1 being horseshit & 10 being awesomesauce, where does it rate?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aridale on October 11, 2011, 06:55:04 AM
1. No. Its a spiritual sequel.

2. Kinda but not really and its not important.

3. Id say its a 9. Its damn fun but the extreme difficulty will get to everyone. How often just depends on you
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Wallachia on October 11, 2011, 01:53:39 PM
Agree with Aridale..

Gargoyles, use some Pine Resin to add lightning to your weapon, Gargoyles weakness..

Have you ventured to Darkroot Garden yet, by the blacksmith? You can get some goods there, and souls, so you can level up more.. leveling up really helps.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: thernz on October 11, 2011, 02:11:38 PM
its on 360 too.. I got it and Ive got my ass kicked off me by the belfry gargolyes. I havent played since then. It is a damn amazing game tho. Its really really good
Help, I need either.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aridale on October 11, 2011, 05:00:30 PM
Nope I went down there and saw that big lightnin boss guy and messed with him for a few... died... and then left lol
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dark Nemesis on October 12, 2011, 03:08:17 AM
Oh boy, i need to find a job and get money, so i can buy this game........
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gunlord on October 12, 2011, 03:15:08 AM
Like I said elsewhere, I wont be able to play it till I get back home on Nov. 17...;_;
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: whitedragon_nall on October 12, 2011, 04:26:09 PM
This has been taking up a TON of my time lately. I can't seem to stay alive though.  :-[
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: knightmere on October 20, 2011, 01:44:13 PM
I just picked this up but haven't had a chance to get started yet. I've been sucked into Harmony of Despair and just started leveling up Shanoa.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: ShinAkumaXX on October 22, 2011, 09:32:36 PM
I just bought the collectors edition off eBay and am very excited to get it. I hope it's not as hard as they say. I would like to be able to play through it. Either way I it's got some of the coolest art style I've seen in a game, at least the screens I've seen. I bet it'll be gorgeous on my TV.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: bucky on October 22, 2011, 10:01:58 PM
This game is incredible.

For those who haven't played Demon's Souls:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Jago on October 23, 2011, 01:46:48 AM
I have heard great things about it, and all my friends seem to be playing it now.  I plan on picking it up soon and checking it out.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aridale on October 23, 2011, 10:51:48 AM
It really is great. Buckys post really sums it up well. I think of it like an old school NES game. Its not that its brutally hard or anything its just that you gotta know exactly what your doin to succeed. You gotta know enemy placement and what they do. The best way to approach each situation to be able to advance. Thats all it is. Just like old nes games like CV1,3 Ninja Gaiden etc.

Its no different dyin in dark souls and goin back to a bonfire forever away and losin all your souls than dyin in CV1 and losin all your hearts and whip upgrades and subweapon and goin back to the start of the area. The only actual difference is
1 - you can get your souls and humanity back if you make it back to where you died without dyin again.
2 - Its current gen 3d

It really is what 3d CVs SHOULD be. The main problem with ppl playin it today is that game are generally so easy these days that a game with old school challenge no one knows how to approach and they get pissed off and wont play it.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Wallachia on October 24, 2011, 12:30:02 PM
It really is great. Buckys post really sums it up well. I think of it like an old school NES game. Its not that its brutally hard or anything its just that you gotta know exactly what your doin to succeed. You gotta know enemy placement and what they do. The best way to approach each situation to be able to advance. Thats all it is. Just like old nes games like CV1,3 Ninja Gaiden etc.

Its no different dyin in dark souls and goin back to a bonfire forever away and losin all your souls than dyin in CV1 and losin all your hearts and whip upgrades and subweapon and goin back to the start of the area. The only actual difference is
1 - you can get your souls and humanity back if you make it back to where you died without dyin again.
2 - Its current gen 3d

It really is what 3d CVs SHOULD be. The main problem with ppl playin it today is that game are generally so easy these days that a game with old school challenge no one knows how to approach and they get pissed off and wont play it.

yes totally.. and the maze of the levels and how they all connect. It's SotN in 3D.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: knightmere on October 24, 2011, 01:20:24 PM
I finally started playing this last night and so far this game is pretty awesome.  I agree that the design and difficulty of this game is reminiscent of old CV and other NES games and I love it so far.  I haven't gotten very far but am definitely enjoying it.  I hope I can finish it before skyrim drops next month.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Vrakanox on October 24, 2011, 04:06:21 PM
Been playing this game and Castlevania games since october 1st almost exclusively. I actually wouldn't mind if From Software developed the next Castlevania as long as they get the character designs right.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Wallachia on October 25, 2011, 05:57:03 PM
Cool posts about this game :)

Knightmere, how far are you? We shoulod try to meet up/co-op. I am Soul Level 40, in Blighttown. God it is a dank, horrid area..
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dark Nemesis on October 26, 2011, 03:16:04 AM
http://uk.ign.com/videos/2011/10/20/dark-souls-infinite-soul-exploit (http://uk.ign.com/videos/2011/10/20/dark-souls-infinite-soul-exploit)
This video, is explaining, how to obtain infinite souls!!!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: knightmere on October 26, 2011, 09:57:37 AM
I'd rather not cheat in a game like this it would just cheapen the experience. @ Wallachia, I still am not very far in, I just beat the second boss (Taurus Demon) I got my ass handed to me about 10 times before I finally beat the bastard.  It's been along time since a boss fight felt so rewarding though lol.  I'd like to try playing online but I'm not sure how. Add my PSN and I'll try to get on tonight.  I usually only play after 9pm eastern.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Wallachia on October 26, 2011, 10:21:12 AM
Cool, knight.. wait til you start getting into the scarier, darker levels. Keep pushing on! And yes do online, the messages other payers leave, and the summoning of others in your level is an awesome/key component!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Kingshango on October 26, 2011, 03:08:14 PM
I think you guys would like this. :)

Dark Souls - Blacksmith Vamos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnAD14l6Db8#ws)

Skip to the 52 sec mark.

Not mine btw.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Aridale on October 26, 2011, 11:49:06 PM
damn I didnt know there was a whip! Wheres it come from?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dark Nemesis on October 27, 2011, 02:59:38 AM
I'd rather not cheat in a game like this it would just cheapen the experience.

If i find it too hard, i might use it, else, i'll play it normal!!!

@ Kingshango, cool video!!!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gunlord on October 28, 2011, 11:00:04 AM
Haha, that's fantastic!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: bucky on November 01, 2011, 07:20:14 PM
I'm actually in the middle of a 'Simon Belmont' build. I made up my own arbitrary rules:

I'm using the whip primarily, as well as usable weapons like daggers and firebombs because of their similarity to CV subweapons. I did allow myself to use a sword, especially earlier in the game when the whip was incredibly weak still. But I used some discretion- I used the Astora's Straight Sword, which is described as having belonged to an unknown knight and having a 'powerful blessing'. It's mediocre, but if a Belmont did own a sword, I figure it'd be holy. I would consider a whip-only run if you could start the game with a whip, but you can't.

Now I've upgraded my whip to a fire whip +7 anyways, so I've ditched the sword completely at this point.

(click to show/hide)

In Dark Souls there are three classes of magic - miracles, magic, and pyromancy. I would imagine that a Belmont would be limited to miracles so I'm only using those.

My armor choices are also based on how much I think I can get my character looking like a Belmont. Right now that means the Crimson Robe, Steel Gauntlets (or the Hard Leather Gauntlets), Black Leather Boots, and the Knight Shield. I'm using the Standard Helm as well, but I take it off from time to time to look more Belmont-y. I'll see if I can take a picture later on. Perhaps other Dark Souls players might have an opinion on what armor would be most appropriate, but I think I've chosen pretty well. :)

Unrelated, here's a glowing Dark Souls review that I strongly agree with:
Dark Souls is more Zelda than Zelda, more Metroid than Metroid (http://bitmob.com/articles/dark-souls-is-more-zelda-than-zelda-more-metroid-than-metroid)

The author makes a case for why he feels From Software understands what makes earlier Zelda and Metroid titles so likeable, and why Dark Souls does a better job at living up to The Legend of Zelda and Super Metroid than Twilight Princess or Metroid: Other M. I think I want to sign up and post a comment chiming on on why you can add Castlevania to that list.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: ShinAkumaXX on December 06, 2011, 03:31:49 PM
Ha, that CV style vid was nice. Anyhow, I just finished The Painted World of Ariamis, and then finally went back and killed that damn demon in the bottom of the undead asylum. I think this is likely to be my favorite single player game of this generation and will probably be one of the games I actually will bust out and play in years to come. Love the style and everything is just right. It can be very frustrating to lose your souls, but I basically try and get enough to level up / or upgrade and then move on to the next tough section so if I lose a few thousand I don't get so pissed. I will admit I farmed for quite a while in the Darkroot Garden, but in all honestly it really didn't make the game too much easier, if you let your guard down any of the enemies can rock your world. You still have to do everything just right! I'll also admit if it wasn't for the help online I wouldn't be anywhere near where I am! Like I would of figured out how to get the Drake sword and how to get back to the undead asylum and trade with that nest..... Anyhow. Amazing game! The fact that you can summon people to help with bosses definitely lightens the load quite a bit also!! One thing that pissed me off.... They patched the game and my favorite armor so far the Black Hemmed Set basically had it's stats cut in half. And You can't upgrade it (I wouldn't of been so mad if you could upgrade it). Also they cut the power of pyromancy down quite a bit, but it's still good to have. However the patch did improve locking on and some other things so not all was nerfing. Hope to hear how everyone else is coming along!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: KaZudra on December 07, 2011, 08:17:31 PM
Given that I do not own a console, I have yet to enjoy this game, I have seen enough to know I'll like it though, someday I'll get a PS3 to enjoy this game on.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: ShinAkumaXX on December 31, 2011, 12:54:42 PM
I beat the game the other night and I would say it was my favorite game I've played in a long time! Anyhow, after you beat it you automatically start a new game plus. All your equipment carries over, as well as your levels. Including yourself and what you've done to your equipment. Your items besides keys also carry over. Very nice, especially some of the rings. Whatever level you kindled your bonfire also carries. Later in the game you get the Rite of Kindling, and you can kindle them all up to give you 20 estus flask. Also your estus flask level carries. Anyhow, the enemies have a slightly higher HP, but not much. The tough part is they all pack about twice the punch. So enemies I would of shrugged off before require more attention to say the least. Especially the enemies that could kill me in 1 or 2 hits in my first run through.... Prowling Demons (those big headless lightning guys with staffs that crawl around) I hate them even more than I ever thought I could. Anyhow, to unlock all the achievements and the different ending playing through New Game+ is a must. Can't wait to see the next ending. If I can ever beat the final boss with double the hit power...
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: ShinAkumaXX on January 08, 2012, 11:22:34 PM
My praise got a friend to buy this today, I hope he likes it! He and I used to play many a NES and SNES game together. So if any one is up to the challenge he is. Just hope he doesn't call me pissed off and saying the game is too hard ha. I did not recommend the game to my other buddies who only play FPS games with me.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Nail_Bombed on January 10, 2012, 05:32:21 PM
Having seen this game in action (on youtube) and also Demons Souls, this is really tempting me to go and buy either an XBox or PS3. Having said that, apparently there is a large push from the community to bring this game to Steam and the PC. Now if that happened... you'd bet I'd buy it. I'd have to upgrade my stuff but it'd be worth it just for this.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Gunlord on January 10, 2012, 06:01:50 PM
i've mentioned this over at the antichapel, but while I think this game has many excellent ideas, after blight town it gets *too* hard and moves over on to frustrating territory, really destroying a good deal of enjoyment.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dark Nemesis on January 12, 2012, 03:09:35 AM
Rage Quit : Dark Souls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnUGxY_b00Y#ws)
 :rollseyes:
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: ShinAkumaXX on January 12, 2012, 03:41:13 PM
I think he missed the part about locking on... Hope nobody actually sucks this bad. I know the video was intended for humor... I hope. Though my pal said when he bought it at gamestop some guy there said he died right away and decided to bring it back. What a pussy!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dark Nemesis on January 13, 2012, 04:38:58 AM
I think he missed the part about locking on... Hope nobody actually sucks this bad. I know the video was intended for humor... I hope. Though my pal said when he bought it at gamestop some guy there said he died right away and decided to bring it back. What a pussy!

I did put it for humor and as about the guy your friend mention, he reminds me my self, when i played for the first time demon's souls and wasn't able to pass the tower knight boss..... :P
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Renonsgoods on January 15, 2012, 02:52:39 PM
I went out and bought Dark Souls based solely on the comments/contents of this thread.....and I'm very glad I did so.  I have to agree with many who have previously made the statement...this feels EXACTLY how a 3D Castlevania game should.  Granted there isn't much platforming, but I don't really mind.  We've had 10 years of all that double jumping nonsense, and I'm ready for a game that places the emphasis on combat and real exploration for once.  Dark Souls fits the bill perfectly.  I've been completely unable to remove this game from my 360 disc tray ever since its purchase.  Even grinding in the same spot for several hours never fails to entertain. ;D
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dark Nemesis on January 16, 2012, 01:57:57 AM
I've got the game 2 days ago. I have to say that it is far superior to demon's souls and more easy than demon's souls. Right now, i'm stuck at maneater boss. I really hated him in demon's souls, now i hate him even more in dark souls!!!! >:(

 Also, i must have the most ridiculous second boss win. When i went for the first time and he jumped down on me, i tried to run away from him and i fell off down the cliff and so the boss. The game said victory achieved and then game over. When i went back to the boss, he wasn't ther, only my blood stain and when i touch it, it gave me 6000+ souls!!! Am i lucky or no? :P
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Foffy on January 22, 2012, 01:42:18 AM
I've got the game 2 days ago. I have to say that it is far superior to demon's souls and more easy than demon's souls. Right now, i'm stuck at maneater boss. I really hated him in demon's souls, now i hate him even more in dark souls!!!! >:(

 Also, i must have the most ridiculous second boss win. When i went for the first time and he jumped down on me, i tried to run away from him and i fell off down the cliff and so the boss. The game said victory achieved and then game over. When i went back to the boss, he wasn't ther, only my blood stain and when i touch it, it gave me 6000+ souls!!! Am i lucky or no? :P

Some say it's a glitch, but the fact the designers actually created a spot where the Taurus Demon can jump off of is a bit of a trick you can take advantage of.

They let you get a freebie on that one, sometimes, and for good reason later in the game. ;3
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Dark Nemesis on January 22, 2012, 07:50:38 AM
Some say it's a glitch, but the fact the designers actually created a spot where the Taurus Demon can jump off of is a bit of a trick you can take advantage of.

They let you get a freebie on that one, sometimes, and for good reason later in the game. ;3

I have beat the dark night at dark root forest this way and obtained his spear which is a perfect weapon, since with this one, i can kill most of the As%@* black phantoms that they invade my world, trying to ruin my game!!!
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Renonsgoods on January 29, 2012, 11:41:14 PM
Anyone know a good katana build?
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: ShinAkumaXX on January 30, 2012, 09:35:29 AM
Anyone know a good katana build?

Best I've made is a +5 lightning Iaito. Not stat wise, but from using several builds, some better stat wise, this one kicked the most ass over all. I've also made a +15 Iaito, which had S scaling to my dex, and the +5 lightning definitely seemed better. Wish I could un-do it and get my slab back... I also made a +4 lightning washing pole, didn't wanna go +5 and have to use a mega rare titanite slab on it. It's longer and slower than the Iaito. All in all, as you can tell I would definitely recommend the +5 lightning Iaito, and if you don't wanna spend a slab, go +4. The Iaito can be found near the beginning of Blight Town, when coming from the Depths. You have to do a running leap onto a platform after you face some fat ogre guys with clubs and some of those crazy blight town pink guys. One of my most liked weapons, my most powerful being my +5 lightning zweihander. Lightning weapons seem to be super beast on this game. They seem to stomp other weapons I have with better stats. If your not sure how to make them, the giant smith in Anor Londo can make them for you. You must first level a weapon to +10 before you can turn it to lightning however. He can also turn +10 weapons into unique weapons using souls of bosses.
Title: Re: Dark Souls
Post by: Renonsgoods on January 30, 2012, 08:28:37 PM
Thanks.  I'm glad to hear that the Iaito makes for a good weapon...seeing as I got overzealous and killed Shiva of the East trying to get the acrobat's ring from the ninja standing nearby....whoops.  Makes getting the Washing Pole and Uchigatana impossible now. No worries.