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Title: So I'm a student now
Post by: Mooning Freddy on November 05, 2011, 03:59:48 AM
I guess it had to happen eventually.  :P

I'm a first-year B.A. student now at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem (http://www.huji.ac.il/huji/eng/) studying Political Science and International Relations.
Being a student is hard, unrewarding work.

Wondering how many of you are studying in College, or graduated from it?
And what exactly are you studying/studied?
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: C Belmont on November 05, 2011, 06:09:26 AM
I'm currently at college studying animation for video games, hoping to make my own indie game someday and you can bet it will pay tribute to Castlevania.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Gunlord on November 05, 2011, 08:51:02 AM
Congrats, Freddy! I'm currently a grad student in history 8)
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Kale on November 05, 2011, 10:22:46 AM
I'm currently at college studying animation for video games, hoping to make my own indie game someday and you can bet it will pay tribute to Castlevania.

That's pretty awesome. I wish I was able to... maybe I'll go back to college after I'm out to look into animation or Computer Science... (Ugh, the math)

I'm currently on my supposedly last year of my degree barring nothing fails me. IT degree.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: X on November 05, 2011, 12:04:51 PM
Once I graduated from High school, that was it for me. I've not gone to collage or university cause I don't want to. I've pretty much had all I could take from a broken institution that couldn't even cater to my individual needs and way of learning. And on top of that all the s**t from the bullies that I had to sit and take are still festering in me. So until the entire educational system has been revamped and reorganized with new rules and proper conduct of students, there's no way come Heaven, Hell or high water that I'm going back.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Gecko on November 05, 2011, 12:52:32 PM
I'm a college student. I'm in my fourth year at Henderson State University, studying psychology. I'm almost done with my major too, I'm just a little short on the core classes.  :P

Of course, in psychology, you have to get at least a master's degree before you can really do anything. I'm extremely lucky in that my parents are helping me out with my BA, but they've said that past that, I'll be on my own. So student loans and a minimum wage job! Yay! I'm gonna be really poor in a little over a year. :(
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Kale on November 06, 2011, 12:36:51 AM
Once I graduated from High school, that was it for me. I've not gone to collage or university cause I don't want to. I've pretty much had all I could take from a broken institution that couldn't even cater to my individual needs and way of learning. And on top of that all the s**t from the bullies that I had to sit and take are still festering in me. So until the entire educational system has been revamped and reorganized with new rules and proper conduct of students, there's no way come Heaven, Hell or high water that I'm going back.

TBH, College is, for the most part, a load of crap. But you should still take some classes I think, if for nothing else, meet people that might have similar interests and get connections. But I do agree with you, College... no, School, is broken. And it's really more of a money grab.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Mooning Freddy on November 06, 2011, 01:07:01 AM
Once I graduated from High school, that was it for me. I've not gone to collage or university cause I don't want to. I've pretty much had all I could take from a broken institution that couldn't even cater to my individual needs and way of learning. And on top of that all the s**t from the bullies that I had to sit and take are still festering in me. So until the entire educational system has been revamped and reorganized with new rules and proper conduct of students, there's no way come Heaven, Hell or high water that I'm going back.

I'm really sorry for you, X. I don't know how the colleges in America are, but where I live, college students have none of that "highschool crap". There's no "cool kids" or "nerdy kids" or however the American teenage movies describe it. We're all adults, most of us served in the army, and people come here to study and have fun, period. No silly social-status battles, no violence, none of that s**t. We all try to be polite, because we're very different around here- Jews and Arabs, religious and atheists, single and married, every one has his or her view of life and we try to respect one another (or else, we'd probably be in a lot of trouble, lol)  :P
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: C Belmont on November 06, 2011, 01:04:10 AM
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don't know how the colleges in America are, but where I live, college students have none of that "highschool crap". There's no "cool kids" or "nerdy kids" or however the American teenage movies describe it. We're all adults

Thats kind of similar to what my experience has been so far, at school & highschool I was bullied quite a lot but I haven't encuntered any of that kind of stuff at College.The fact that most of the people at my college including the teachers are a bit odd by "normal" standards probably helps (seriously I sometimes don't feel nerdy enough!) but I think it's probably also because most students actually want to learn the material they are studying and also because there is just way to much money & work involved to waste your time on something as unproductive as bullying someone.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Vrakanox on November 06, 2011, 09:38:13 AM
I actually just recently went back to college to get my MBA. I had got my undergrad in Business and honestly it didn't really do all that much for me. I met great people and it was a great experience but I didn't really learn all that much from it nor did I really make any connections that would help me get a job that would be better than anything I could get previously.

I'm honestly still not convinced that getting an MBA is going to solve any problems either but I know that more people are doing it these days and I feel like I need to be doing something with my life. Let's see how it all works out :)
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Kale on November 06, 2011, 11:45:40 AM
I'm really sorry for you, X. I don't know how the colleges in America are, but where I live, college students have none of that "highschool crap". There's no "cool kids" or "nerdy kids" or however the American teenage movies describe it. We're all adults, most of us served in the army, and people come here to study and have fun, period. No silly social-status battles, no violence, none of that s**t. We all try to be polite, because we're very different around here- Jews and Arabs, religious and atheists, single and married, every one has his or her view of life and we try to respect one another (or else, we'd probably be in a lot of trouble, lol)  :P

It's really like that in America too, from my experience... but like
I actually just recently went back to college to get my MBA. I had got my undergrad in Business and honestly it didn't really do all that much for me. I met great people and it was a great experience but I didn't really learn all that much from it nor did I really make any connections that would help me get a job that would be better than anything I could get previously.

I'm honestly still not convinced that getting an MBA is going to solve any problems either but I know that more people are doing it these days and I feel like I need to be doing something with my life. Let's see how it all works out :)

You don't learn jack except maybe some basics... a lot of it seems like bull to me or something you learn outside and probably at a better rate. Then they also enforce General Studies.. while make you more informed... maybe, about general things... doesn't help you worth jack for the most part.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: darkmanx_429 on November 06, 2011, 12:29:41 PM
Thats kind of similar to what my experience has been so far, at school & highschool I was bullied quite a lot but I haven't encuntered any of that kind of stuff at College.The fact that most of the people at my college including the teachers are a bit odd by "normal" standards probably helps (seriously I sometimes don't feel nerdy enough!) but I think it's probably also because most students actually want to learn the material they are studying and also because there is just way to much money & work involved to waste your time on something as unproductive as bullying someone.
I am a 9th Quarter college student majoring in Video Game Art and Design.  I haven't noticed the bullying thing in College, but definetely the "high school" politics are still there. My wife is German and she also notices the same thing, it seems like for the most part that all that bullying and crap happens majority in America.
Once I graduated from High school, that was it for me. I've not gone to collage or university cause I don't want to. I've pretty much had all I could take from a broken institution that couldn't even cater to my individual needs and way of learning. And on top of that all the s**t from the bullies that I had to sit and take are still festering in me. So until the entire educational system has been revamped and reorganized with new rules and proper conduct of students, there's no way come Heaven, Hell or high water that I'm going back.
Agreed X. But don't ever let other people stop you from what you want to do at the same time stay true to yourself and speak your mind. Sometimes you need to "check" people. We all grow and mature, I am sure you've mature enough to not let anyone "bully" you anymore. I know it sounds cheezy, but if I let everyone tell me how I wansn't gonna do shit in video game design or call me nerd or whatever, then I wouldn't be about to graduate in a year from the degree I love in a year. Life's too short to live for other people X, do what you want "f" everyone else.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: X on November 06, 2011, 02:52:35 PM
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Agreed X. But don't ever let other people stop you from what you want to do at the same time stay true to yourself and speak your mind. Sometimes you need to "check" people. We all grow and mature, I am sure you've mature enough to not let anyone "bully" you anymore. I know it sounds cheezy, but if I let everyone tell me how I wansn't gonna do shit in video game design or call me nerd or whatever, then I wouldn't be about to graduate in a year from the degree I love in a year. Life's too short to live for other people X, do what you want "f" everyone else.

Thanks for the pep-talk darkmanx_429  ;) While I do feel that education is important I also feel the you don't need to go back to school or any school for that matter, in order to learn. It's far more rewarding to learn from self-experience rather then sitting in an overcrowed classroom listening to boring lectures that don't engage your mind by using all of your five senses. It's better to learn by doing rather then listening. Getting your MBA or a master's degree is the in-thing now but doesn't really do anything to get you out there actively. It's more 'n less icing on the cake of your life. And it really is unfortunate that our society will almost only cater to people with such backgrounds. A person living on the streets could very well be a fortified genius and the world would pass him by because he has no degree. On the other hand, those with degrees could be dumber then a sack of hammers and the world would recognize them because of their degrees. It's really sad. And of course money also plays a predominant role in the later of our education. Student loans and education fees? Pfft! Whaddever. Student loans are nowhere near enough to pay for the education fees that are demanded of us. The ridiculous costs of paying for something that last time I checked, is bound by law. The law says we need an education so why should we pay for it?? I'd be cheaper to by a new car.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: beingthehero on November 06, 2011, 03:09:52 PM
I'm not looking forward to graduating either. I have the option of prolonging college by at least one month with no extra charge by going either to Ecuador or Indonesia, and I'm still considering that. It would be nice to have some worldly experience.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Mooning Freddy on November 07, 2011, 12:45:11 AM
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A person living on the streets could very well be a fortified genius and the world would pass him by because he has no degree. On the other hand, those with degrees could be dumber then a sack of hammers and the world would recognize them because of their degrees.

I agree with most that you say, X. I believe that people need to be measured by talent rather then social status and everyone should get equal opportunities, but the high College fees (in America mostly) damages that equality. It's a big problem.
However, people with degrees being dumb? You need to be quite intelligent to get accepted into a high-education institute, and make a real effort to get a degree. Cheating here is almost impossible. I would like to believe that people in good Colleges and universities are smarter than the general population, social abilities aside.
It's true that many talented people are wasting their lives on the streets, and it's a shame. It's true that if you're talented enough, you don't need a degree to be successful.
Nevertheless, most employers today cannot measure their employees' intelligence in a better way than relying on their education. Not every job requires you to have a degree, but almost every employer would prefer a worker with one.

Let us be realistic. People do the right thing when they demonstrate for a more equal society, and demand social justice. But our society is a competitive one, where the best are successful, and the rest are cast aside. It's always been like this. If you're talented and work hard, you SHOULD be successful. If you're not, then there is a problem in the society, which must be resolved. Eventually, a healthy society is one who provides equal opportunities. Complete equality, however, is impossible. Not in our world.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Kale on November 07, 2011, 12:56:01 AM
However, people with degrees being dumb? You need to be quite intelligent to get accepted into a high-education institute, and make a real effort to get a degree. Cheating here is almost impossible. I would like to believe that people in good Colleges and universities are smarter than the general population, social abilities aside.
It's true that many talented people are wasting their lives on the streets, and it's a shame. It's true that if you're talented enough, you don't need a degree to be successful.
Nevertheless, most employers today cannot measure their employees' intelligence in a better way than relying on their education. Not every job requires you to have a degree, but almost every employer would prefer a worker with one.

There are quite a few people who have degrees who are dumb. I've met a few... they might know some things, of course, They might even be good at some things as well. But just having a degree means nothing. Unless it's Ph.D (or maybe a masters), which requires considerable effort and knowledge.

But a bachelors? associates? Virtually anyone can get those. One person I met, has gotten his IT Bachelor degree before me. He constantly tell me things about how to do work and stuff. Every time I listen, it's hard not to notice that he has pretty much no clue what he's talking about. At this point, you might think, maybe he's just not good at explaining.... and I have given him this benefit of the doubt. But after seeing him work... I really can't any more. I'm not saying I'm far smarter than him, either. There are way too much I don't know to claim that, but  I do think I have him beat when it comes to our IT Jobs. He's already... dismissed and the job I'm at seems almost impossible to be dismissed from. (Though, I don't think they dismissed him for the right reasons.)

I might sound like a jerk for saying that, but it's true and my co-workers tend to agree, vehemently and I believe they are all rather smart.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: CastleToastM on November 07, 2011, 04:09:29 PM
I scored high enough on my entrance placement test that I don't need any general education for my major.

I'll finish my major in a single year. I'll have a certificate of completion in Digital Media Arts.

I won't even turn 19 yet, and I'll finish my major.

I have no idea what to do after that.

I'll probably switch to an Art degree, or something.

This is still my first semester, so I'm still deciding on what I'm going to do.

I do want to make video games for a living. Something to do with computer animation.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Kale on November 07, 2011, 05:11:21 PM
What school are you going to? I would of thought that general studies is required regardless.  If not, good for you. That's kickass.

As for getting started on a career to make games, I would recommend you start now, right away, and just make things to make things or find a group to work with. Holding it off will probably bite you later on. As far as I can tell, you really need a portfolio to do well, so starting early would help you tremendously. Like join in on some of the little stuff here or on gameartisans website or gamedev and find a group.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: C Belmont on November 07, 2011, 06:57:06 PM
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Like join in on some of the little stuff here

Of course you wouldn't put the stuff that you've made for a fangame into a portfolio though, it shows a disregard for copyright which is probably not something any potential employer would be looking for & also doesn't show off your creativity very much either.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Kale on November 07, 2011, 07:48:09 PM
No, not for fan games... but it gives you more experience.  And anything that isn't used is probably safe game.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Neobelmont on November 09, 2011, 12:03:04 AM
Right now I am going to pierce college in hopes of doing a transfer to a good school. My major is focused around law,criminal justice and stuff. the classes I am taking right now are political science 1, phliosophy 1, history, and oceanography. I believe after that I just need to take my english class and math then I should be set to move foward.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: darkmanx_429 on November 09, 2011, 07:31:35 AM
What school are you going to? I would of thought that general studies is required regardless.  If not, good for you. That's kickass.

As for getting started on a career to make games, I would recommend you start now, right away, and just make things to make things or find a group to work with. Holding it off will probably bite you later on. As far as I can tell, you really need a portfolio to do well, so starting early would help you tremendously. Like join in on some of the little stuff here or on gameartisans website or gamedev and find a group.
Kale is somewhat correct. Definetely start networking, GamaSutra is another online site you should join.
I scored high enough on my entrance placement test that I don't need any general education for my major.

I'll finish my major in a single year. I'll have a certificate of completion in Digital Media Arts.

I won't even turn 19 yet, and I'll finish my major.

I have no idea what to do after that.

I'll probably switch to an Art degree, or something.

This is still my first semester, so I'm still deciding on what I'm going to do.

I do want to make video games for a living. Something to do with computer animation.

If you are serious about learning to get into the game industry, I can tell you from experience that you need to start learning and looking at, photoshop, 3ds max, maya, udk, and z brush. Just to start. Since you are young you get to start earlier than most. You can go to autodesk.com on their student page and get maya or max for free, udk is also a free download. You have some experience with media arts, so you should transition pretty well into game design. Good luck!
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: TheouAegis on November 09, 2011, 10:12:57 AM
I have my baclaureate in East Asian culture and history. I work at a gas station. Do I think college is useless for the most part? Yes. Do I think you should never go to college? No. Two of my best friends were met in freshman and sophomore year in college. Even if you don't study, it's worthwhile for the people you meet. I don't talk to any of my high school friends. Sure, we post comments on Facebook once in a while, but I talk in person and hang out in person only with my college buddies these days. You don't know who you are and what you want from other people until after high school, until you're on your own, so to speak, without your parents. Yes, the institution is a rip-off, but it's worth it for the experience. Just like root canals.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Gunlord on November 09, 2011, 11:04:28 AM
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Yes, the institution is a rip-off, but it's worth it for the experience. Just like root canals.

Awesome quote, my friend. XD XD XD XD
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Nagumo on November 09, 2011, 11:14:16 AM
I'm currently doing two extra years of high school in order to go to university. I already graduated but I have to do it on a higher level this time.  :( 
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Sonic_Reaper on November 09, 2011, 12:12:54 PM
Four year degree in Fine Arts, with Studio Art major.  Waste of time?  Not really.  But I do regret it somewhat.  The only reason I went was due to pressure from family and society.  I don't even need my degree for what I want to accomplish (indie game development).  But such is life.  At least I can say I have a BFA, I guess.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: CastleToastM on November 11, 2011, 12:38:24 AM
What school are you going to? I would of thought that general studies is required regardless.  If not, good for you. That's kickass.

As for getting started on a career to make games, I would recommend you start now, right away, and just make things to make things or find a group to work with. Holding it off will probably bite you later on. As far as I can tell, you really need a portfolio to do well, so starting early would help you tremendously. Like join in on some of the little stuff here or on gameartisans website or gamedev and find a group.

General studies IS required. I simply scored high enough on my placement test to not need them. I scored college level calculus in math and the highest possible placement for English.

I've gotten into scratch, if that even counts. My sig has a link called Sword of Sorrow RPG.

It's not exactly an RPG game, however.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Donvermicelli on November 16, 2011, 08:27:59 AM
Currently in Kyoto, Japan studying Japanese. Will move to Osaka, Japan after to study Game Design at HAL.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: KaZudra on November 17, 2011, 09:15:37 PM
in a Technical Collage studying Culinary, I might change my major to computer engineering since I really enjoy builing/rebuilding computers.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: CastleToastM on November 18, 2011, 02:06:12 AM
Currently in Kyoto, Japan studying Japanese. Will move to Osaka, Japan after to study Game Design at HAL.

Same company behind Kirby and Arcana?

I love those games.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Donvermicelli on November 18, 2011, 09:49:11 PM
Same company behind Kirby and Arcana?

I love those games.

HAL is a college, It's a technical school that does all sorts of IT related education and happens to be one of the best GameDesign schools out there. If they are behind the creation of Kirby or not I am not sure unfortunately.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: CastleToastM on November 20, 2011, 04:38:02 PM
HAL is a college, It's a technical school that does all sorts of IT related education and happens to be one of the best GameDesign schools out there. If they are behind the creation of Kirby or not I am not sure unfortunately.

(http://www.emuparadise.org/Nintendo%20Entertainment%20System/Titles/Kirby%27s%20Adventure%20(E).png)

On the title screen of like every Kirby game, it says "HAL Laboratory, INC."

It is a game design company located somewhere in Japan.

Wait a sec.

Okay, back from a wikipedia search.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_Laboratory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_Laboratory)

Apparently, HAL Laboratory is located in Chiyoda, Tokyo.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: KaZudra on November 20, 2011, 05:27:17 PM
HAL is a college, It's a technical school that does all sorts of IT related education and happens to be one of the best GameDesign schools out there. If they are behind the creation of Kirby or not I am not sure unfortunately.
Kirby? lets not forget Mother 1-3 (mother 2 being earthbound) Pokemon, and Super smash bros.


....and not to mention the masterminds behind the scariest boss ever.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: TheouAegis on November 20, 2011, 06:39:39 PM
Apparently, HAL Laboratory is located in Chiyoda, Tokyo.

(http://www.insanejournal.com/userpic/571384/44927)

Chiyo da!
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: CastleToastM on November 20, 2011, 11:33:13 PM
Kirby? lets not forget Mother 1-3 (mother 2 being earthbound) Pokemon, and Super smash bros.


....and not to mention the masterminds behind the scariest boss ever.

Pokemon is made by Gamefreak, buddy.

And I'm not sure what boss you're making a reference to.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: KaZudra on November 21, 2011, 12:25:15 PM
Pokemon is made by Gamefreak, buddy.

And I'm not sure what boss you're making a reference to.
I'm sorry, you're right, its the Maker of Earthbound that did pokemon, but he mainly works with HAL, I guess you can see the assumption now...

the boss is Giygas!

in Mother 1, He's pretty much Mewtwo, hell, Mewtwo was Designed off of Giygas

In Earthbound (mother 2) He's the Creepiest boss ever!

Here's a wiki page on him! http://earthbound.wikia.com/wiki/Giygas (http://earthbound.wikia.com/wiki/Giygas)
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Donvermicelli on December 13, 2011, 07:09:28 PM
so yeah I checked it out, it's unrelated. I'm just hoping to land a spot in konami for obvious reasons :P
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: CastleToastM on December 14, 2011, 03:08:27 AM
so yeah I checked it out, it's unrelated. I'm just hoping to land a spot in konami for obvious reasons :P

If you ever end up working with the Castlevania team, make sure that plenty of 2D platformers are made.

I'm not sure if you will, so I'm just throwing that out there, and hope that you do.

Go for it man.
Title: Re: So I'm a student now
Post by: Donvermicelli on December 14, 2011, 05:29:24 AM
While I love the 2D Castlevania's I'm secretly hoping for a 3D Castlevania done right. I think Castlevania64 was on the right track but it was like an unpolished gem. The flaws outshined the good concepts but the good ones never saw the light of day again.

Though a truly oldskool Castlevania with modern graphics and hardcore difficulty is also among my goals.