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Off Topic => Off Topic => Topic started by: Kale on December 09, 2007, 04:56:07 PM
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I knwo this is a bit late but whatever. I like discussing Harry potter, its a rather fun topic. Tellme your thoughts on characters, settings, story, and such.
I've had this opinion before, and now it seems more than likely. The opinion is .... Harry Potter is a pedophile. Why is it more than likely now? Well with the recent announcement Dumbledore being gay, its seems the characters are more "diverse" than previously thought.
My reasons for his being a pedophile is that all the little kids seems to like him. I guess its not his fault... totally. But Both Ginny and Gabriel (Flur de la Cur's sister) (I don't know the spelling for their names very well so ... they might be spelled wrong).
So, lets start the discussion off with that ;D
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I have a question about Dumbledore being gay. Did Rowling (author) say that her character was gay in the first place and that she only announced it very late?
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She hints it in the final book, and when asked in an interview, she clearly states that he IS, in fact, gay.
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I think he should focus more on the whole "magic" thing and not so much on men. He's a fricken wizard.
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She hints it in the final book, and when asked in an interview, she clearly states that he IS, in fact, gay.
where?
i read all the books and never seen such a thing.lol
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All the talks about him and the grendal something guy. Its definitely not clear, but its there. Now that I'mthinking about it... Dumbledores a gay pedophile, you know thats why he stayed as headmaster, rather than become minister of magic. >.> more interaction with kids! XD
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yeah Ive read all the books too (most of em multiple times) and I never once got the impression that Dumbledore was gay. Not even close. And as far as I know Michael Gambon (the actor now playing him since Richard Harris died) isnt gay either.
If Rowling herself said somewhere that Dumbledore was gay I want a link.
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In Reply To #3
She's such a pussy. She should've done that in the first book. Now it reeks of trying to shock bible-thumbers without damaging the sales.
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http://hogwartsprofessor.com/?p=257
http://www.theonion.com/content/amvo/rowling_dumbledore_is_gay
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7085863.stm
3 links, a simple google, considering how famous HP books are.
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In Reply To #9
Very nice. I thought it would be somethin someone took out of context and blew out of proportion. But I guess it wasnt =D
Its funny the big deal ppl have made out of it tho. It doesnt change who the character was. The was still one of the greatest most respected wizards of all time.
TY for the links tho I woulda looked mself but it was 6am and Id been up like 17 hours lol.
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Its all good. It doesn't change my thoghts on the character. But its fun to make fun of the characters and such. Thats all that matters to me, atleast with this... Since I personally thoght the story took a pretty rough road after book 2, and riding a mountain road from book 5.
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She hints it in the final book, and when asked in an interview, she clearly states that he IS, in fact, gay.
I think it's not so unusual to think of him like that, kinda puts things in place, I think Dumbledore is pictured in the books as too naive, what with him trusting Snape THE WHOLE DAMN TIME to the very end, I mean, for a wizard as clever and experienced like him it's almost absurd.
Then again, like someone mentioned here, I don't to judge the character according to its sexual preferences, especially in a book like Harry Potter, that has very little sexual content.
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In Reply To #12
Snape wasnt a bad guy tho in the last book its revealed that Dumbledore knew he was gonna die and he planned it with Snape the whole time that he had to be the one to kill him. Snape looked out for Harry the whole time and was very close to Dumbledore the entire time even tho it looked like he was workin for Voldmort.
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Indeed, he wasn't. I can get why Dumbledore trust him though. Atleast after the final book, the 6th book, like most of teh other books gives you the stupid reason with nothing to support it, and then explains it later. Thats one thing Iliked teh books for. I just wish I didn't hate half the characters.
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In Reply To #13
lol, thanks for spoiling the last book for me!
Anyway, if Dumbledore knew he was gonna die, doesn't that make him a Jesus-like character? Like, I died for your sins and stuff. Hehehe ;D
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but he didn't....... He died because he did something for himself, which is different from jesus. He just made it so that his death would benefit thecause.
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I've actually wanted to read the books, alas I haven't had time to go pick them up at my local bookstore (due to time restraints being a musician and music teacher.) But I heard that as well that she stated he was a homosexual.
Honestly, I don't see what is wrong with it. Cats do it, wolves do it. It's in our nature... Ahh the human race, what a dirty dirty dirty species we are, makes me smile with delight.
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i don't see anything wrong with it. But I find it stupid, cuz in the interview, it sounded like she wanted him to be gay just to spite the church, thats just stupid.
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Sorry about the bump, though this was still on the first page so it should be alright.
I didn't want to check out this topic earlier in case it contained spoilers. Just finished the last book today. I'd like to know how ya'll feel about the books versus the movies. It seems most of the book fans love the movies, but I think they're mediocre at best. Seems the directors always want to cram every last bit of the books in rather than focusing on character building and pacing. And that makes the films very...flat, for lack of a better term. They could handle a bit more buildup and more epic closes.
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Its not that they want to fit everything in that bothers me in most cases, its the fact that they add a "Hollywood" twist to it. Like Book 4, they concentrated on teh dragon scene, great but .... they could've done other things and shortened the dragon scene.
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I thought the 1st, 3rd, and 5th film were pretty good. 2 and 4 just seemed to drag on and didn't really focus as much on the characters and what was going on at the school (in terms of their classes and what not) I'm not a big fan of the franchise, I can watch the movies but that's about it - I've never had the motivation to read any of the novels. Haha, I tease my wife whenever she reads one of them and say something along the lines of her reading books that were made for "eleventeen year olds".
I think the whole gay thing isn't that big of a deal and in a way it doesn't really surprise me. It's the same with the whole banning of the books in school because it teaches kids witchcraft and whatnot - it's just total rubish. I do have to agree that I don't see why the author had to throw that in there though - it really doesn't seem to have any relevance other than to cause a fuss with parents/media.
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In Reply To #21
Which is why I think JK just threw it in to start something. I tough, liked 2 and 3, the other 3 though... meh, and I didn't evensee all of 5, because I was so bored that I stopped paying attention.
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In Reply To #22
My wife said that the only thing that really hints at anything is they mention him spending alot of time with a male "friend" in his younger days... again, that in and of itself means little. Like I said, I'm not really a fan of it and I'm not totally familiar with anything other than whats in the movies, but I just don't get what anyone in that series' sexual preferances has to do with anything.
Oh yeah, and that crazy psycho witch-woman from the latest movie (Don't even ask me to try and remember a name... the one that tortured what's-his-names parents) has gotta be a diehard lesbo ;D
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Bellatrix Lestrange? In the last book, it hints that she's got a crush on Voldemort, actually.
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In Reply To #23
Yep, theres nothign that says "I'm gay" in the books. But the author said its true. Weird family, goat rape and gays! yay! ::)
Bellatrix Lestrange? In the last book, it hints that she's got a crush on Voldemort, actually.
I didn't pick up on any of that. I know shes obsessed with Voldemort, but from what Dumbydore says, it sounds like the really devoted ones, like her and probably her husband are obsessed with him.
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In Reply To #25
She has a husband!? Well, I guess that throws that theory out. I just got the impression from what was in the movie that somebody like that is too psychopathic and insane to even register any kind of "warm" emotions for anyone. That and the fact that she seemed to have that "man hater" thing going on. I dunno, that was just my first impression on the character.
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dnt worry, some of the things in the book arent mentioned enough to get you to remember, unless you're a fan or lie me >.> who relisten to audio books alot.