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Title: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Esco on March 09, 2012, 01:44:27 PM
Rarely do I ever rant in...... well, anywhere. But this has to be said: the DLC for LOS is a FUCKING INSULT!!!!! I recently had the absolute JOY of playing both on my brothers system (I do not have them, nor do I intend to basically throw away $20. So unless someone generously donates the DLC to me I will NOT be getting it for my own system) and while I enjoyed LOS for the most part (though the Lack of a death fight, and the 2 disappointing last boss fights did leave me a bit perturbed) the DLC is just a joke.

I mean seriously, 5 stages, for $20!?  :o And not 5 unique LONG stages, nope. 1 stage that is almost EXACTLY the same as the original, then 2 new stages with a fun gimmick: playing as Laura. But you BARELY get to use her. Then we have 2 stages that are basically both a boss fight, and some wall climbing/jumping. And it's the SAME BOSS TWICE! Just with one or two new tricks added to previous ones.

I thought the few new cut scenes were cool, but most of them were during the boss fight with the forgotten one. And let's not even talk about the endings. No 3d cut scenes, just 2d panels that look like concept info. It was obvious that they didn't want to put the time and effort into more cut scenes, but wow... they could have done MUCH better than this. Especially resurrection's ending: it could have been so, SO much more.

Lastly... the price: $15-$20 for this TRASH!? O_o I got much more HOURS of enjoyment and thrills from DLC for Castlevania HD for $3-5, than I would from this 30-40 minute romp. I wouldn't even think of paying more than $7 for this total. What's worse is that you can tell that these 2 bits of DLC were originally designed to be one. Konami obviously split them like this in the hopes of DOUBLING their profits.

Fuck you Konami. Straight up. Fuck you, eat a dick, choke on sperm and die.

EDIT: Quick side note: I referred to both final boss fights above. While I thought dracolich looked amazing, the actual fighting him was lame. It was just basically an event battle and a real disappointment. Satan was just pathetic. So much wasted potential. I felt like I was fighting just some nameless boss, not the demon lord himself.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Ridureyu on March 09, 2012, 02:07:53 PM
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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: beingthehero on March 09, 2012, 05:24:43 PM
That's the general trend of DLC for all games. Twice the cost for half the (very little) content.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: X on March 09, 2012, 07:52:43 PM
Trust me Esco you're not alone on this. I never made it passed the Dracolich because I was done with the game right there. And after hearing about and seeing the DLC I knew it was all no-good. A lot of people out there have felt that the game should've never left the production facility until it was finalized. Even though CV64/LoD did the same thing at least the game was complete in terms of an ending. LoS flopped on this one.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Ahasverus on March 09, 2012, 08:20:13 PM
I agree. It was a steal. Alvarez said it eas not their idea though, they didn't like the price tag AT ALL but it was not their decision, it was Konami's.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: PFG9000 on March 09, 2012, 09:22:16 PM
I kinda figured the DLC would be disappointing, but I'm a pathetic whipped CV fanboy, so I bought it anyway.  I've gotten loads more time and infinitely more fun out of Harmony of Despair than I have out of LoS, DLC included.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Reinhart77 on March 09, 2012, 09:43:48 PM
i made sure to note on that Konami survey that i prefer new playable characters over new levels as DLC.  its a real shame they couldn't find a way to let you play all of the stages as Laura.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Dremn on March 09, 2012, 09:56:19 PM
The DLC took a shit all over whatever possible grand mythos they were building up for a truly compelling origin for Dracula and a fresh start for the series. I sincerely hope they're going to retcon the DLC and give us a better Dracula origin in the sequel.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: K.G. Morder on March 10, 2012, 12:39:25 AM
I was saddened by no playable Zobek.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on March 10, 2012, 03:02:31 AM
Glad I decided to shell out my $20 for the Folklore DLC and Angry Birds instead.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: darkwzrd4 on March 10, 2012, 04:26:05 PM
The DLC sucked!!!  Pure and simple.  The fact that a "Belmont" becomes Dracula is disappointing but tolerable.  What pissed me off was that they did it in two chapters totaling eight stages to change him from an emo warrior who just "saved" the world to a powerful vampire.  For such an important character in the series (reboot or not), the metamorphosis should have been fleshed out more.  Gabriel's further decent into darkness should have been it's own game ending with the change into Dracula complete.  (My opinion)
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Kingshango on March 10, 2012, 05:54:42 PM
I loved the main game but like everyone else said it was crap. First off it cost too damn much for just five stages total that can be beaten in less than two hours. Both DLC were clearly suppose to be one standalone pack but Konami thought it would be fun to separate them and sell an hours worth of content for $10 each.

Secondly, the DLC left more questions than answers and the answers we got were shown poorly though 2D concept art rather than in engine (Maybe the reason for this is because a seperate team was working on the DLC while the rest worked on the sequel but stll they could have put some effort into it). We still dont know HOW he became known as Dracula, what he's done over the past 900 years or why he hid in a church for centuries.

Here's what shoul have happened, Reverie and Resurrection should have been one standalone pack as originally planned (still titled Reverie) while the second DLC (titled Resurrection) should have focused on the death of the hero Gabriel and the birth of Lord  Dracula.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Opium on March 10, 2012, 08:08:54 PM
I was too outraged by LOS itself to even notice that there was DLC for it.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: JR on March 11, 2012, 01:17:20 AM
The only thing that really bothered me about the DLC was just that Konami still has no clue what they're doing with DLC/digital pricing. It's almost always a given that they'll charge twice as much as they should when they release stuff to the digital marketplace. It almost makes them look more inept than greedy.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: K.G. Morder on March 12, 2012, 10:19:01 AM
The story in the DLC was definitely too rushed and quick. It was something that should have been fleshed out as either part of the game, or part of the sequel. Or maybe just in between source material and mentions like most CV's have done before. but by stuffing it into two small DLC's, both of which were limited mind you, they didnt use the same kind of cutscenes- the sort of crunched the story into a small time frame and it just feels like Gabriel's descent to Darkness is just too quick.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: KaZudra on March 12, 2012, 06:45:12 PM
Did anyone Forget HD's Overpriced DLC?
Konami is a shit developer as of recently.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Ahasverus on March 12, 2012, 06:48:12 PM
Did anyone Forget HD's Overpriced DLC?
Konami is a shit developer as of recently.
*Publisher
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Thy Gory Rory on March 17, 2012, 07:31:23 PM
I probably should've posted this sooner if it's actually relevant, but... right now both DLC chapters "Reverie" and "Resurrection" are half off until March 19th on xbox live (400 microsoft points each = $5 each). Plus Symphony of the Night is also part of that deal right now if you know somebody that may be missing out on that classic (only $5 as well).
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: uzo on March 17, 2012, 09:23:20 PM
*Publisher

They're both.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 17, 2012, 09:51:13 PM
Yeah, Konami is both a publisher (JPN version of Super Scribblenauts) as well as a developer (with franchise flagship series under their own development teams).
They are similar to Nintendo and Square Enix in that way.  They're big companies that can publish a title or develop a title.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Reinhart77 on March 17, 2012, 11:11:55 PM
Newsflash:  I've finally beaten the DLC stages.  Oi, takes a while, cause I only have access to my PS3 once every other weekend (plus plenty of times i just wasn't in the mood to do that right now).  It is shameful though.  I played Knight mode the entire time, but don't really like ultimate boss battles and just want to get them over with, so I played the last two sections as a squire.  Even so, aiming the whip attack a particular part of a giant's body in 3D air-space is not a skill i have in abundance, so it dragged out a while.  I still got my trophy though.  Do you get a better trophy if you beat it on a better level?  Wish they actually gave you something for it (playable Laura, Zobek).  How about that Simon Belmont concept video?  Maybe a Happy 25th Anniversary note.  Well, they gave me a ton Experience Points for the trouble, so I was able to buy the Ultimate Light technique (yay, all skills obtained trophy).  Didn't have enough to buy all of the artwork though.  I had to do a victory lap through the game, wandering in from one stage to the next just to look at the decor and soak up the atmosphere and cut scenes, but then fleeing to the next stage once i encountered some resistance. 

Are we past using spoilers for DLC yet (if i've beaten it, i'm sure everyone else has too now or watched it on youtube)?  Anyways, about the end :

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Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: K.G. Morder on March 17, 2012, 11:46:53 PM
How? He broke it within that other realm and left it there.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: X on March 18, 2012, 11:04:14 AM
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How? He broke it within that other realm and left it there.

I saw this too on a You Tube vid. I don't think there's any way for it to be recovered.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Chernabogue on March 18, 2012, 02:08:34 PM
I agree, he destroyed it in the other world/dimention/thing. Plus the portal to the world of TFO has certainely be closed by that time.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: crisis on March 18, 2012, 03:09:06 PM
Well, Rinaldo is still alive, so he'll most likely make a new "Vampire Killer" for the next protagonist.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: Chernabogue on March 19, 2012, 12:21:24 AM
Well, Rinaldo is still alive, so he'll most likely make a new "Vampire Killer" for the next protagonist.
Is there a clue that he's still alive? Not that I don't believe you, but I don't remember seeing that.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: K.G. Morder on March 19, 2012, 10:21:41 AM
There are mentions of him on dead Brotherhood knights, stating that he uses the disguise of an old beggar, but is clearly quite sharp.
Title: Re: Is anybody besides me OUTRAGED at the DLC for Lords of Shadow!!!??
Post by: DoctaMario on March 22, 2012, 08:41:19 AM
Did anyone Forget HD's Overpriced DLC?
Konami is a shit developer as of recently.

Konami's been out of sorts for awhile as far as I'm concerned. It's like they genuinely don't have a clue in this new day and age of gaming. They used to be an innovative company, but now, it's like they've taken a lot of their hot ip's and modeled them after other popular games.

I'd been considering getting a PS3 so I could play this and other games, but the DLC age has got me thinking about just sticking with what I have. It seems like a lot of companies are forgoing quality and releasing full games in favor of chasing those DLC dollars. :(