Zelda: Majora's Mask.
Final Fantasy VII takes the giant cake that is this thread.
Final Fantasy VII takes the giant cake that is this thread.
I wish, I wish, I wish I could like that game. I even bought a copy and every year I try to play it, hoping that maybe I've matured so that can enjoy it on maybe another level... but no, I can't stand that game. I even have a problem with the way the sound effects in the menu screen sound, that's how much I dislike the game. Although I kinda dig the materia system, the entire plot, villains, and characters pisses me off.
Also, running in the overworld is the same speed as walking, only with more enemy encounters.
On the flip side, I love FFVI. Teehee.
Mega Man 2.Huh, never thought a Mega Man fan would put a Mega Man title in his list. :-X
Mortal Kombat. That's my answer. They got things right in MK2 (maybe MK3 too).
But MK1 didn't impress me at the time when it was big.I think the main reason behind MK1 popularity was that you could kill your opponent. Visually this game not that interesting to say the least. Soundtrack is thing of its own, some people will like it, some not. And battle system and physics are not very good.
Mega Man 2.
The only valid complaint I can see someone make is the story, and the QTE's.
Oh yeah, I love Megaman but this one is SUPER overrated.I woulnt have minded Universe if only for it';s heavy customizability in both character and stages. character swap parts? neat. make your own stages? neat-er.
so overrated that there were gonna be 3 clones of it on XBLA/PSN (MM9, MM10, and MMU)
I woulnt have minded Universe if only for it';s heavy customizability in both character and stages. character swap parts? neat. make your own stages? neat-er.
every first person shooter ever made.
Metroid Prime is sad ):Yeah...
People are going to hate me but I think OoT is overrated. Don't get me wrong I liked it but it's not as good as everyone makes it out to be.
every first person shooter ever made.
every first person shooter ever made.
every first person shooter ever made.
I didn't think Final Fantasy X was all that great. I thought that other than the graphics, it was a step back from FFIX in terms of music, characters, and story.
What's so bad about the games? The graphics are superb, the gameplay is tight with little to no flaws or glitches, the music is good. It's heavy on action with puzzles that are implemented seamlessly, the third title raised the bar graphics-wise, the shimmying isn't drawn out or a hassle, etc. The only valid complaint I can see someone make is the story, and the QTE's. Other than that, the series deserves all the accolades it's received. Why else would anyone compare similar games in the genre that came out since a "God of War clone?"
There are hundreds of games/series that can labeled "bad" or "crap." God of War certainly isn't one of them :P
My 5 most favorite FF games are: 1) FF VIII 2) FF X 3) FF VII 4) FF VI 5) FF IV
Your list is almost decent... it's missing tactics and 6 should be higher.
then ff x, also has a very interesting story and i like the battle system that it's using.Now, if someone were to successfully combine FFX's CTB and MegaTen's Press Turn system...
Haha... It was just my opinion.
For me Ramza (Tactic's hero) and Squall are roughly equal as character. Which, both (and their games) are on top of the list for me, FF wise.
If you like Strategy games at all, you should try Tactics. It's amazing. Cheat, if you have to. Story falls off at the end though, like FFVIII. But it's still good imo, just could've been better.
I tried Tactics Advance a few times, but I just don't dig Tactical RPGs. Although Song Summoner: The Unsung Heroes is pretty good.
Oh yes it is. I don't know about GoW3, as that's the one that I haven't played. Though I hear the story is absolute shit.well you heard wrong cuz it's good. story closes out the trilogy leaving no plot holes like most other series, Kratos gets his vengeance, which is what the series is about.
The first's story was damn boring, the second, I don't know I only got up to the first boss or so. Third, I hear is shit like I said before,... and from GoW fans, no less.heard wrong again.. story is about repentance, which Kratos ultimately fulfills.
And if the sex game is what draws you... you should be smacked. There are better alternatives for porn.no but it's just there for fun & lasts for like 2 minutes, maybe less.
well you heard wrong cuz it's good. story closes out the trilogy leaving no plot holes like most other series, Kratos gets his vengeance, which is what the series is about.
heard wrong again.. story is about repentance, which Kratos ultimately fulfills.
no but it's just there for fun & lasts for like 2 minutes, maybe less.
Bottom line: these games kicks ass, and I have still yet to see any legitimate reason for anyone to hate on it other than "i don't like it, just because"
Some opinions can be wrong and/or misguided, though. Fact is, God of War is the Audi of action games in this era; every element of the game is honed to near-perfection. QTE's are annoying, yes, but when the game's that good it doesn't really detract from the fun factor. And you don't even have to participate in the sex minigames, you can easily skip all of them & keep moving to the next part, so..
I'm only getting at you cuz I said if anyone dare mentions GoW as overrated or in your words "shit," I would strongly defend it, and will continue to do so ;) The games may not necessarily be your cup of tea, fine. But they definately aren't overrated, in any fashion.
I have to disagree there. It is easily overrated. And I only mentioned it because you reminded me of it. I try not to think of things i think are crap. It is definitely overrated. If GoW is the Audi of action games in this era, then either Audi's suck this era or action game sucked this era. Seeing as DMC and NG games are still good and of this era. I guess Audi's just suck this era.Well I must assume you just have poor or questionable tastes in good action games, then. A game that achieves in spades what a lot of other games only strive to do is not "overrated," sorry (*coughheavenlyswordninjabladedantesinferno*cough*). There are countless games that have tried to emulate the scale of GoW [with some success], hence the coined term "God-of-War Clone;" often imitated, never duplicated.
Combat is pretty boring. Can be fun for a little bit, but is repetitive, quickly. That is my main problem with it. I won't lie, GoW2 seemed better than the first, though I haven't played it much. It's still very sub par in comparison to DMC and NG.Combat can get challenging as the game progresses with harder enemies. Hitting "square square triangle" won't get you through the hordes of enemies; you have to dodge & maneuver your techniques accordingly. I just recently played the entire series on the hardest setting, trust me. It's fun, crazy brutal combat in Ancient Greece; It really does a good job into bringing you into the mythology, the endless struggle against the Titans & Gods, the beautiful architecture/locales, etc. The stylish methods Ryu & Dante use are different and unique, yes, but that certainly doesn't give GoW's combat any less merit.
As for "misguided" opinions... I find that laughable. The guy I talked to, did play it, and all 3 in fact. He actually liked the first 2, although I can't understand why, and did not like 3 too much. It just seems like you are taking what you want out of it and disregarding the rest. That doesn't seem right, espeically when it's pretty much the same subject.Compared to the seemingly single guy you talked to, I have a lot of friends not just on the internet that have played it & none of them didn't have any negative feelings towards it. I, myself have played all 5 (6 if you include the cell-phone game, yet another that got great reviews) and each of them contain the same fun factor as the previous installment. Everyone I've talked to basically say the same. What am I disregarding? That there are annoying QTE's? That the story sucks? I noted that there are some flaws here & there, but the positives far outweigh the negatives.
Ha ha ha lol. Yeah i can go on some long rants,huh?
Compared to the seemingly single guy you talked to, I have a lot of friends not just on the internet that have played it & none of them didn't have any negative feelings towards it. I, myself have played all 5 (6 if you include the cell-phone game, yet another that got great reviews) and each of them contain the same fun factor as the previous installment. Everyone I've talked to basically say the same. What am I disregarding? That there are annoying QTE's? That the story sucks? I noted that there are some flaws here & there, but the positives far outweigh the negatives.
It's not underrated or overrated; it's just awesome. :)
Ye...no, it's not awesome.It actually is, though!
It is overrated, because of preceisely what you said, it doesn't deserve all the praise it gets. Just because it has a huge fan base does not mean it isn't overrated, as pointed out in your FF7 analogy. GoW has lots of flaws, but just like FF7's fan base, you don't see them because you're a fan. What you might think is a flaw in FF7, isn't a flaw to others, so I guess your opinion would be misguided on that then?GoW has only a few flaws here & there, but they're nothing so glaring that it makes you go "WTF THEY REALLY SCREWED THAT PART UP, THIS GAME IS SHIT NOW." I DO see & acknowledge the few (too much reliance on QTE's, design errors in some boss fights especially the scorpion in GoW3, to name a few), but they're not game-breaking in the least. FF7, on the other hand, has been heavily criticized thousands of times more than GoW, because it contains way more flaws (and it has 6 previous entries to live up to).
The story in the sequels wasn't quite as satisfying to me as the original, but that was always just a small nag for me. I always thought they were fun, well-presented games. Never really understood the hate, either.
Whoa whoa, hold on there.
GOOD games can indeed be overrated.
Overrated is when you have a ridiculously huge following of devoted fans which will blindly follow a game, whether it is a good one or not.
The remark about Kale's friend having questionable taste was a joke, which obviously flew right over your head, like most things people say on this forum so I'm not surprised by your reaction.Considering your usual behavior on this forum, rudeness was to be expected.
Just because it is not mainstream doesn't mean it cannot be overated.
It actually is, though!But it's not?
GoW has only a few flaws here & there, but they're nothing so glaring that it makes you go "WTF THEY REALLY SCREWED THAT PART UP, THIS GAME IS SHIT NOW." I DO see & acknowledge the few (too much reliance on QTE's, design errors in some boss fights especially the scorpion in GoW3, to name a few), but they're not game-breaking in the least. FF7, on the other hand, has been heavily criticized thousands of times more than GoW, because it contains way more flaws (and it has 6 previous entries to live up to).
You basically said "the game is shit, because it has flaws & the praise/accolades it's received are unwarranted because of it's flaws." That's just not true, but hey, that's how you feel. It's not overrated, it's rated just fine. The reviewers point out it's flaws but like I said, the good far outweighs the bad and it's obvious. Can any game just be good or excellent nowadays without it instantly being labelled "pff, overrated, NEXT"? I'm just staunchly defending it because I said I would... and I'm a man of my word *joker voice*
But it's not?Are you asking me a question?
Over reliance on QTE is quite a glaring flaw.QTEs are part of the game's makeup, some battles were designed with them in mine, like in RE4. They're not hard to do, just press a few buttons in order, and they flow with the gameplay. OMG GLARING FLAW. Other copycat games are more guilty with the "over reliance," and they do them worse. That's almost like saying "constantly changing weapons in Symphony is a flaw because you're forced to do it."
No, I said it's shit... because I think it's shit.So your argument has basically been "it's overrated because I think it's shit," or
Are you asking me a question?
QTEs are part of the game's makeup, some battles were designed with them in mine, like in RE4. They're not hard to do, just press a few buttons in order, and they flow with the gameplay. OMG GLARING FLAW. Other copycat games are more guilty with the "over reliance," and they do them worse. That's almost like saying "constantly changing weapons in Symphony is a flaw because you're forced to do it."
So your argument has basically been "it's overrated because I think it's shit," or
"it's shit because I think it's overrated."
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