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Title: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: Tavis Belmont on June 08, 2012, 09:44:28 PM
With all the announcements for Mirror of Fate and Lords of Shadow 2, I'm finally trudging through the first game. I've been dying alot, and sometimes it feels like I'm doing more dodging than attacking. Any solid advice to help me get through the game? Is there a certain combo that I should rely on? Right now I've been abusing the Guillotine combo, Direct Heavy combo, and Earthquake Punch. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: crisis on June 08, 2012, 09:54:41 PM
Um... it'd be better for us to give advice when you're stuck at a specific spot/puzzle, otherwise just attack everything that moves
and buy as many combos as you can? I dunno

just attack, dodge, jump, attack more, etc.
and spam light/dark magic
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: JR on June 08, 2012, 10:19:34 PM
Learning how to perfect guard helps immensely. That's the best way to fuel your light magic (which I used WAY more than shadow magic), and it'll be a lifesaver against Cornell, if you haven't reached him yet.

Also keep on the lookout for shockwave attacks. This can be tricky, but it can help out a lot if you can jump over them.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: Tavis Belmont on June 08, 2012, 11:02:28 PM
I'm actually at the end of Chapter 7. I think I'm about to fight Frankenstein. I can perfect guard against some enemies real easy, but others give me trouble. I'm still baffled as to why skeletons are harder than vampires right now. And, like you JR, I use Light Magic alot more than Shadow Magic.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: VladCT on June 08, 2012, 11:13:37 PM
I haven't really played the game myself, but if dodging's anything like CoD (i.e. free invincibility frames), then spam it like a motherf**k. That's how I trivialized most of the boss fights in CoD without relying too much on IDs (not that they were too hard to begin with anyway).
Oh, and knowing the enemies' attack patterns helps a lot. Surely they must let up at one point.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 09, 2012, 01:45:29 AM
Mechanical Monstrosity was a pain for me.
Mainly because you have to use that FalconPAWNCH move and hit the floor in the perfect spot.

Line yourself up three steps under the floor tile to ensure you hit it.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: uzo on June 09, 2012, 02:40:56 AM
Mute the in game 'music' and play some classic Castlevania tunes instead.

Oh- Wait you were asking for other advice? Well, you'd be surprised at how much music can make a difference.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: Flame on June 09, 2012, 06:46:52 AM
As for what combo to use, well you have to find what works best for you, IMO. learning to perfect guard and dodge is good too. And switching between Light and dark magic. use dark magic to boost attack, and when you need to regen some health, pop the light magic. using the holy water shield is useful too. Hholy water itself is useful in the castle, since it stuns vampires.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: Tavis Belmont on June 09, 2012, 03:58:23 PM
As for what combo to use, well you have to find what works best for you, IMO. learning to perfect guard and dodge is good too. And switching between Light and dark magic. use dark magic to boost attack, and when you need to regen some health, pop the light magic. using the holy water shield is useful too. Hholy water itself is useful in the castle, since it stuns vampires.

I'm digging Holy Water alot. It's pretty darn powerful against alot of things, and I love throwing it directly below if Gabriel is in the air.

Mechanical Monstrosity was a pain for me.
Mainly because you have to use that FalconPAWNCH move and hit the floor in the perfect spot.

Line yourself up three steps under the floor tile to ensure you hit it.

Yeah, that monster was a little bit of a pain. For me, it was the lack of room to manuever.

Mute the in game 'music' and play some classic Castlevania tunes instead.

Oh- Wait you were asking for other advice? Well, you'd be surprised at how much music can make a difference.

I'll have to do that. I actually have my two Classical Thunder CDs on my 360's Hard Drive, and I play those whenever I get tired of hearing a game's music. It's especially funny when you're running from a Creeper in Minecraft, and the 1812 Overture is playing.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: jestercolony on June 09, 2012, 06:39:13 PM
Oh boy, you want tips? Hey - private msg me your email, I'm going to write you up a text document later, once you read what I've given you and with practice, you will have a 50/50 or 90/10 chance of never dying, even if you have no upgrades/power ups because I will explain the core mechanics of the game itself and how easy it really can be (not to mention the nifty things you can actually do with the relics/abilities) :)
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: darkwzrd4 on June 10, 2012, 04:10:54 PM
Assuming that you haven't done so already, I recommend going back to previous levels to try and get upgrades you couldn't get to before.  Also, if you are having trouble, try turning down the difficulty.  Even on the lowest setting, the game is some what difficult.  And, don't be afraid to use shadow magic.  It helps a lot.

IMO, the skeletons were way too tough.  Especially in groups. 
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: derision on June 10, 2012, 08:42:15 PM
Mechanical Monstrosity was a pain for me.
Mainly because you have to use that FalconPAWNCH move and hit the floor in the perfect spot.

Line yourself up three steps under the floor tile to ensure you hit it.

...or you can just walk over the button and use the attack that punches directly below you while standing. I can't remember what the command is, but it's available as soon as you get the gauntlet and can be viewed in the travel book. This is the intended way to fight it- doing the move in midair just adds unnecessary difficulty to the fight.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 10, 2012, 09:09:32 PM
Ha ha!  That means I did it with more difficulty! lmaoooooo
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: VladCT on June 10, 2012, 09:47:31 PM
Ha ha!  That means I did it with more difficulty! lmaoooooo
You mean style. ;)
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: jestercolony on June 12, 2012, 05:24:33 AM
Combat Mechanics 101 - LOS

A. Enemy Size  -
                        Smaller Based Enemies  - Will be effected by the following abilities

1. Stomp
2. Grabbing (A and B)
3. Lift Offs/Pull ins/Knock Backs (Air Grab; Gillotine's final attack; Erosive Chains; Flame Dragontail; Whirlwind Flap)
4. Blind (Holy Cross, Flash, Holy Jump)

                         Medium Based Enemies

1. Stomp (Enemy pending; example of this is Lesser Lycanthrope)
2. Grabbing (A & B) example of this depends on the enemy type
3. Lift Offs/Pull Ins/Knock Backs (As above; enemy size pending)
4. Blind


                         Larger Based Enemies

1. Shadow Magic Crowd Control and Knock Back/Knock Down abilities
2. Aren't effected by Lift Offs/Pull ins
3. Air Grabbing only





 B. Knock Backs - Will take place under the following conditions
                                                                                     1. An enemy charges at you
                                                                                     2. An enemy finishes an Unblockable Attack
                                                                                     3. Retaliation (during a Block); wait for it to finish after you dodge
 
Once an enemy suffers from a Knock Back, they will be stunned, which will set you up to do a Knock Down

C. Knock Downs - Will take place under the following conditions
                                                                                     1.  An enemy suffers a Knock Back
                                                                                     2. Shadow Magic Attack (Enemy size pending and attack pending)


D. Enemy Blocks

Enemy will often block, when this happens and you do not have Shadow Magic (or haven't acquired yet) you will need to use a Block Breaker (normally the final hit of a Direct ground Attack or Air combo finisher; Gillotine's final attack). The one attack that he spends his whip in front of them like a saw will in fact damage them (low %) while they block, but enemy will still retaliate (remember to move when this happens)

If an enemy blocks, and Shadow Magic is acquired, you will often notice the "Tinging" sound that it makes, which symbols to you, that the enemy is not being damaged, you have until up to 3 tings to activate Shadow Magic, the 1st or 2nd one will be a Knock Back, while the 3rd will be a Knock Down, an example of this is

A. Enemy Block <-> TING <-> Shadow Magic <-> Knock Back <-> Knock Down

B. Enemy Block <-> Shadow Magic <-> Knock Back <-> Knock Down

C. Enemy Block <-> Ting <-> Ting <-> Shadow Magic <-> Knock Back

D. Enemy Block <-> Shadow Magic <-> Knock Down = LOL more combos


If you need any more tips, feel free to post back and I will explain how Subweapons and magic abilities work, but this information should make LoS a cake walk to you, the rest is simply practice; hope this helps :)




Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: Tavis Belmont on June 15, 2012, 10:15:36 PM
Thanks for all the good tips. Just a heads up: I've beaten Carmilla, and I'm about to start the path to the Necromancers. I've gotta say, Carmilla was really easy. Olrox, however... what a pain. Everytime I thought I'd killed him, he regenerate. I'm liking the game with each passing chapter, but I'm still not feeling the "Castlevania-ness" of it. I'm probably gonna have to take Uzo's advice and have my folks send me my Castlevania CDs from home. That's what I get for thinking it was enough to just have them on my iPod.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: e105beta on June 15, 2012, 10:27:56 PM
Watch out when you get to the Titan Graveyard. That place is nasty.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: Tavis Belmont on June 22, 2012, 09:53:32 PM
Just another update. I got through to the last battle in the Land of Necromancers (End of Chapter XI). I haven't done it yet, but I can feel the end near.

I didn't have too much trouble with the Graveyard, e105, but I think that's because I took that stage extra seriously because of your post. I did, however, have trouble with the Music Box stage. I couldn't put that stage down, though, because of the music. I must've replayed it three times just to listen to the songs... even with Baba Yaga's annoying voice.

By the way, one-hitting Reapers suck. At least, I think they one-hit. I haven't let them touch me again since the first time because I think they do.

I'm getting a bit partial to Gabriel, now. Mainly because of the regret that he finally starts to show after the fight with Pan. I keep getting these narrations of how he's tired and bitter and broken... but I never saw any of that until that one small part of the game. Really good stuff.

I think I'm close to the end. Now I just need to decide whether to dive into DLC or not. Thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: Gecko on June 23, 2012, 12:22:36 AM
Learning how to perfect guard helps immensely. That's the best way to fuel your light magic (which I used WAY more than shadow magic), and it'll be a lifesaver against Cornell, if you haven't reached him yet.

Also keep on the lookout for shockwave attacks. This can be tricky, but it can help out a lot if you can jump over them.

THIS. The Cornell battle actually taught me how to perfect block. Before that I didn't really have it down, but on my first playthrough I was unable to take down Cornell without figuring out how to time it correctly. It also came in handy during the Butcher fight.
Title: Re: Any Tips for Getting Through Lords of Shadow?
Post by: Tavis Belmont on June 29, 2012, 09:34:53 PM
Well, I finally did it. I've gotta say, though, the Dracolich and The last little puzzle to reach Satan were extremely annoying, but I beat Lords of Shadow. And you know, for a breif moment, somewhere between Zobek's monologue and the ending, I got it. I got what Cox and his team were trying to do. The cutscenes really did a better job than the chapter by chapter narration to flesh out their goal for me. It even felt like Castlevania there for a little bit during the boss fight with Satan. I can't describe why, but it just did.

I'm glad I went back and played this. It wasn't a bad game, but it did take me a while to admit it was a "Castlevania" game. Now I have to decide whether or not to do the DLC, or backtrack and get all the collectibles.

Oh, I almost forgot: Falcon Punching Satan with Shadow Magic active is the funnest thing to do in the game.