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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Wallachia on August 29, 2012, 11:22:01 PM
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http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/08/27/paul-ws-anderson-talks-castlevania-movie (http://www.ign.com/videos/2012/08/27/paul-ws-anderson-talks-castlevania-movie)
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He says "I like the game, i like the intellectual property, i like everything about it.." but he doesn't clarify WHICH game
If him & his team were to just play LoS, then they'd finally realize there's no need for a big budget live-action movie
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I still have a draft of the screenplay if anyone wants it. It's from 2006.
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What a hack.
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Keep that guy away from Castlevania.
I don't want to watch a move about his wife proving how much better she is than the Belmont clan.
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yeah I HATE him with a passion and ALL of his shitty RE movies. I want him to stay away from CV... I wouldnt even want him to direct a movie version of that shitty cell phone CV from a few years back
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Oh no, I was hoping he forgot about it and moved on.
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Milla Jovovich as either Sonia Belmont or Maria Renard. Calling it.
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That's great. Now here are my thoughts - no thanks.
Unless it's written by the same hacks who did the first Street Fighter movie, in which case it might be hilarious.
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Milla Jovovich as either Sonia Belmont or Maria Renard. Calling it.
Yeah putting money on his wife Mary Sue starring as the surviving girlfriend of the Belmont who has to absorb the VK's power after whatever Belmont gets killed and forces her to finish it. And of course movie will end with her being pregnant or some shit in a vain attempt at a "deep, moving" story of a grieving pregnant woman continuing humanity's hope all by her lonesome self.
And half the forum will ritualistically commit seppeku.
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And half the forum will ritualistically commit seppeku.
I really don't care one way or the other if he makes the thing, 'cause by virtue of it being his, I'm not touching it with a ten foot pole.
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>Directed Mortal Kombat
I-I-I kinda want to see this...
>Nothing else of particular interest
though I am skeptical.
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He says "I like the game, i like the intellectual property, i like everything about it.."
"I like it so much, I actually don't have any time to play video games, so I let other people do it for me, and I just watch the footage and make a movie about it".
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"I like it so much, I actually don't have any time to play video games, so I let other people do it for me, and I just watch the footage and make a movie about it".
Actually that's what George Romero, the father of the modern zombie genre, did when he was set to make the Resident Evil movie. And his script was far more faithful than the one we wound up with. Anderson comes off more like someone started to describe the plot to him and he cut them off after 15 seconds "Zombies secret base yaddyadda I got it." At least fans have the Biohazard 2 commercials Romero made.
>Directed Mortal Kombat
I-I-I kinda want to see this...
>Nothing else of particular interest
though I am skeptical.
Only reason MK didn't blow junks was because it was already a lighthearted send-up of every kung fu cliche known to man. With a barely-there plot to start with.
Milla Jovovich as either Sonia Belmont or Maria Renard. Calling it.
I don't think his wife likes her Mary-Sue characters to be tied down to anything so inconvenient as established canon or characters. He sure doesn't seem to like being tied by them in any other area of his movies. We're talking about a guy who's idea of "adaptation" is to make a move, roughly in the same genre (for the first entry anyway) with the same antagonists and a few familiar names slapped onto otherwise unrelated characters.
Even if he just wants to produce and not direct, I thoroughly expect any Castlevania movie he has a hand in to suck, it's only a question of how much.
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Well, a MGS movie was announced today.
You know this is just going to make a Castlevania movie an even bigger possibility/option for Konami to consider now.
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Well, a MGS movie was announced today.
You know this is just going to make a Castlevania movie an even bigger possibility/option for Konami to consider now.
Possibly, but if the total ignoring of Castlevania's anniversary this year in favor of a Metal Gear 25th celebration/merchandising bonanza is any indication then I'm not sure Konami would want to expend the time, energy or money promoting or tying in with a CV film. At least not until they see the money from Metal Gear start rolling in.
Then again, this is modern Konami we're talking about.
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Well, a MGS movie was announced today.
I don't understand. We already have MGS movies, they just run on a game console only for some reason.
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If they intend to go through with a CV movie then the only things that I want and don't want to see are:
1# If this movie takes place during the middle ages then NO samurai sword-wielding Belmont like we saw in that teaser poster :P. I really do like that type of sword, but it is completely out of character for the Belmonts and unrealistic for Medieval Europe.
2# NO shitty love triangles. It's bad enough that Judgement took this particular road with Sypha, Grant and Trevor and even though Judgement is not cannon it is still a really shitty idea. The whole love triangle theme between the three never existed in the original story and was never even remotely indicated either. And Besides, Sypha never reveled herself to the other until after Dracula was vanquished. So yeah; BAD IDEA.
3# The Vampirekiller whip must be as it is seen in-game. A chain whip with a morning star spike-ball at the end. Nuff said.
4# Vlad III as Dracula. Not Mathias, not Gabriel, not anyone else. Just Vlad. This was his title in real life and it was how his vampire character was brought about in fiction and became synonymous in popular culture.
These are my thoughts on having a proper CV movie. They don't pertain to anyone else's personal choices but mine.
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I hope they develop an original story for the Metal Gear movie. It wouldn't really be exciting if they would adapt a game, since it would just be a condensed, rushed, version of the story.
As for the Castlevania movie, I don't think they should adapt a game either. There's no way they would do a perfect adaptation, and that would just lead to needless continuity problems. They should just make the story and alternate continuity and do whatever they want. But the downside to that is that you'll get things like Castlevania in New York...
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If they intend to go through with a CV movie then the only things that I want and don't want to see are:
1# If this movie takes place during the middle ages then NO samurai sword-wielding Belmont like we saw in that teaser poster :P. I really do like that type of sword, but it is completely out of character for the Belmonts and unrealistic for Medieval Europe.
2# NO shitty love triangles. It's bad enough that Judgement took this particular road with Sypha, Grant and Trevor and even though Judgement is not cannon it is still a really shitty idea. The whole love triangle theme between the three never existed in the original story and was never even remotely indicated either. And Besides, Sypha never reveled herself to the other until after Dracula was vanquished. So yeah; BAD IDEA.
3# The Vampirekiller whip must be as it is seen in-game. A chain whip with a morning star spike-ball at the end. Nuff said.
4# Vlad III as Dracula. Not Mathias, not Gabriel, not anyone else. Just Vlad. This was his title in real life and it was how his vampire character was brought about in fiction and became synonymous in popular culture.
These are my thoughts on having a proper CV movie. They don't pertain to anyone else's personal choices but mine.
1. I'd prefer NO medieval setting. Don't get me wrong, I love medieval stories, love the Ultima series, LotR, the medieval set Final Fantasy games, but in CV, I'm tired of that period. Like everybody must know, because I've ranted about this more than once, just fuckin set it in the Victorian period!
Though, I wouldn't be against a katana-wielding Belmont, even if it's historically inacurate. If they can inject some fantastic style into the mix to keep it from being drab, by all means, even if it's not realistic. Since when have vampires and magical whips been realistic?
2. I agree. I agree more so because, it seems like with most Hollywood movies, the studios(and when I means studios, I mean the heads and the producers) always seem to want to tack on stupid love stories to the movies just for the sake of getting chicks into the theater. I hear that's what they wanted to do with del Toro's At the Mountains of Madness(they wanted to set it in the modern times, make it PG-13 and add a new female character for the sake of being the love interest with the main male character). Sometimes you have to say, "FUCK YOU, HOLLYWOOD!".
3. This I also agree with. I'd even go further to add that they SHOULD get people skilled at animating whips to animate it. It's probably going to be CGI(everything is, nowadays), and it CAN look totally fake if they don't animate it right, but can look pretty damn good if they DO.
4. I'd prefer just Dracula to be Dracula, no ties to any of the above. No Vlad III, no Mathias, no Gabriel, just Dracula. No origin story either. He's already Dracula, has been for hundred years, we don't need to know why or how he became like that, because he's motherfuckin DRACULA! Kinda like Stoker's novel, they only bat around ideas of how he became that way, but the true gist was that Dracula was just Dracula(none of that Coppola Dracula origin stuff). Y'know, like the OG movie, or Monster Squad, he's JUST Dracula, Count Dracula, the fuckin vampire KING of BLOOD! It really is that simple(the fact that people feel the need that they have to show the origins to every little thing makes me laugh my ass off).
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"I like the game, i like the intellectual property, i like everything about it.." translates to "I like the game, i like the intellectual property, i like everything about it...... and I like to take a shit in anything that I likes"
I don't understand. We already have MGS movies, they just run on a game console only for some reason.
We have a REAL movie too, made by fans but I bet that it will still the better even when they launch the official one, the name is Metal Gear Solid Philantropy. You can download for free in the official site of them.
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Philanthropy was pretty well made.
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If him & his team were to just play LoS, then they'd finally realize there's no need for a big budget live-action movie
Just wanted to say that it didn't stop Konami from allowing MGS movie to be made, but I was ninja'd.
I don't think that MGS movie is a good idea, since games already very movie-like and adapting them into the movie would be painful experience. And I am not talking about casting...there would be so much shitstorms about it.
1) Whatever era goes. Castlevania movie could be set in 1400 or in 1900. If director and scriptwriter will do a good job, then ultimately it doesn't matter, when and where this movie will be set.
2) Love story pretty much guaranteed. It's a modern Holywood fantasy / horror / action movie that will be made to be blockbaster, hence "love story" will be included either way. I am against it, since "token love stories" usually turn forced and flat, but what can you do? Let's hope one of the participants will not be played by director's wife. ;D
3) Vampire Killer whip...isn't it leather whip in some versions for the game (LOI for example)? It will be made in CGI, I believe, because I don't think real whip will look very impressive in action and on the screen.
4) If they plan to turn Castlevania movies into the long-running franchise, and I believe they have such plans, then this movie could (and most likely will) become "The Origin" movie for both Belmonts and Dracula. I can hardly believe, that nowadays they will make a standalone movie based on the long-running franchise, that would not cover origins of heroes and villains, especially, if its pivotal to the whole story as it is in Castlevania case. I mean if Belmonts had something like "rogue gallery", than Movie 1 could have been about Belmonts origin and Movie 2 could cover Dracula's birth.
What route will they choose...if Anderson will be director, than most likely he will create his own version of the characters "vaguely" (if we are lucky) based on the originals and LOS. In short this movie will be like Resident Evil movie + LOS, but without gameplay and worse. And even I will NOT rejoice.
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Let's hope one of the participants will be played by director's wife. ;D
I think you mean NOT played by director's wife. Milla Jovovich (who I've enjoyed since her days of Fifth Element) has played enough fucking Mary Sue's already. I know she's used to playing these super-human female warrior types, and I know that eye-candy is not a bad thing to have in films, but enough is enough.
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I'm suddenly reminded of RedLetterMedia's comments about the Star Trek reboot. (http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-trek/star-trek-09/ (http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-trek/star-trek-09/)) Just like the Trek fandom unfortunately the direction of our favorite franchise is not directed by a democracy. "We just have to take it"
Except that while Star Trek '09 turned out to be good, as long as Anderson is involved we're pretty much guaranteed to get a flaming piece of crap. The guy's basically Uwe Boll with a lot more money and slightly greater technical competence. We'll probably see his his wife shoehorned in as a Mary-Sue original character in some way. Also yeah there will be a love story even if it's entirely needless and pointless, blockbuster mandate demands it.
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I don't like that waste of flesh. I'd rather he not be allowed withing 100 yards of CV movie project. I hope he goes back to jail or something so he can't get his putrid claws into this.
His RE movies are insulting to me as a player of the game series. Having his made up character save Jill Valentine's ass was bullshit ego stroking. And Nemesis getting killed by a helicopter? Fuck that shit! It took a hell of a lot more to kill that monstrosity in the game.
I didn't know that fox, Jovovich, was married to that guy. Eeewww.
I liked Event Horizon. He should more stuff like that.
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I think you mean NOT played by director's wife
Yes, sorry for that. Fixed.
I liked his MK and Soldier. Not big fan of Event Horizon or RE movies. Since I've never played any RE games I couldn't comment on how they close to the source material, but as a movies on they own they are nothing special. And I irked that he invented new overpowered character for his wife to play. It has nothing to do with the art, I think.
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I don't like that waste of flesh. I'd rather he not be allowed withing 100 yards of CV movie project. I hope he goes back to jail or something so he can't get his putrid claws into this.
His RE movies are insulting to me as a player of the game series. Having his made up character save Jill Valentine's ass was bullshit ego stroking. And Nemesis getting killed by a helicopter? Fuck that shit! It took a hell of a lot more to kill that monstrosity in the game.
I didn't know that fox, Jovovich, was married to that guy. Eeewww.
I liked Event Horizon. He should more stuff like that.
I actually agree with Event Horizon. That's like that ONLY good movie this guy has done. His first RE and the first MK were "alright" by his standard, but everything else(besides EH, RE1 and MK1) is crap. What happened to Sylvain White and James Wan? Hell, I'd actually trust both those guys over Anderson. Both White and Wan seemed like actual fans.
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What happened to Sylvain White and James Wan? Hell, I'd actually trust both those guys over Anderson. Both White and Wan seemed like actual fans.
I think Wan is still directing, and Anderson is just producing. Wan seemed indeed a bit like fan, as he at least could be bothered to name drop a few things from the series instead of just saying: "I like the intellectual property".
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Since I've never played any RE games I couldn't comment on how they close to the source material, but as a movies on they own they are nothing special. And I irked that he invented new overpowered character for his wife to play. It has nothing to do with the art, I think.
Pretty much nothing in the RE movies has anything to do with the continuity of the games. You could fit the first movie into the RE story if you place it before RE0 and say it takes place in the same mansion as that game. 2nd movie is a retelling of RE2/3 with an emphasis on glorifying 'Alice'. From then on the movies completely diverge from the games. Namely, the movies depict a post apocalyptic setting that never happens in the games at all. Oh, and none of the movies after 2 take place in the same place as any of the games.
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Pretty much nothing in the RE movies has anything to do with the continuity of the games. You could fit the first movie into the RE story if you place it before RE0 and say it takes place in the same mansion as that game. 2nd movie is a retelling of RE2/3 with an emphasis on glorifying 'Alice'. From then on the movies completely diverge from the games. Namely, the movies depict a post apocalyptic setting that never happens in the games at all. Oh, and none of the movies after 2 take place in the same place as any of the games.
I suspected something like that. Thanks. :)
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Actually that's what George Romero, the father of the modern zombie genre, did when he was set to make the Resident Evil movie. And his script was far more faithful than the one we wound up with. Anderson comes off more like someone started to describe the plot to him and he cut them off after 15 seconds "Zombies secret base yaddyadda I got it." At least fans have the Biohazard 2 commercials Romero made.
Only reason MK didn't blow junks was because it was already a lighthearted send-up of every kung fu cliche known to man. With a barely-there plot to start with.
I don't think his wife likes her Mary-Sue characters to be tied down to anything so inconvenient as established canon or characters. He sure doesn't seem to like being tied by them in any other area of his movies. We're talking about a guy who's idea of "adaptation" is to make a move, roughly in the same genre (for the first entry anyway) with the same antagonists and a few familiar names slapped onto otherwise unrelated characters.
Even if he just wants to produce and not direct, I thoroughly expect any Castlevania movie he has a hand in to suck, it's only a question of how much.
Actually the the first MK movie didn't blow chunks was because Boon and Tobias was involved with it throughout the whole process of it being made. Unlike the 2nd movie and it showed...
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Actually the the first MK movie didn't blow chunks was because Boon and Tobias was involved with it throughout the whole process of it being made. Unlike the 2nd movie and it showed...
Didn't one of them (Tobias I think) co-write the screenplay for the second? I remember the name popping up a few times in the credits. From the point of view of a not-huge-fan of the series Annihilation is an incredibly stupid and goofy, but fun, movie. I imagine it wouldn't get as much flack today if the effects had aged better and they'd kept Sonya's original actress. I can only guess at how painful it is to the MK faithful though.
PS - It was kind of weird to change Jade from black to asian though.
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As far as I know one of the MK co-creators was working on the script for the movie. I guess they thought that whatever crap they will produce, power of the brand will make it profitable. Besides, nobody expected that first movie will be succesful.
Another big problem with the movie was that it was directed by the operator of the first movie. Paul Anderson quit from being director, after writers refused to change script whatsoever. Change of actors and lousy special effects didn't helped either.
I've read several fanfics that were written better than MKAn... :rollseyes: