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Title: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: uzo on October 03, 2012, 06:22:26 PM
I don't know if this has ever been posted before. I certainly don't remember it. I stumbled upon it in a Youtube trap. Regardless, it is quite interesting.

Game Theory: Castlevania, Dracula Spectacula (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDGCnw3qu98#)
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Lelygax on October 03, 2012, 07:06:06 PM
You didnt knew Game Theory? Its very cool, we translate it in our blog :)
Anyway thanks since I dont have seem all episodes.

EDIT: Im really impressed with the result of this video.
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Inccubus on October 03, 2012, 07:35:46 PM
Pretty cool. There were a lot of points I never really considered.
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Super Waffle on October 03, 2012, 08:34:37 PM
Aria of Sorrow is the most historically accurate Castlevania game.

Vlad the Impaler was totally a silver-haired Japanese high school student from the future.
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Beaumont_Belmont on October 03, 2012, 09:10:56 PM
Count Dracula wasn't a real person, so historical accuracy is kind of moot. Mixing Dracula with Vlad Tepes is a pretty new concept. From what I understand, when Stoker was creating the character he was going to call him Count Wampyr- then he discovered Vlad in some source material and used it as window dressing for the character.
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Lelygax on October 04, 2012, 04:59:50 AM
How its a new concept if they did it since the beggining?
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: TheCruelAngel on October 04, 2012, 08:36:04 AM
That was an awesome share, thanks!

Also further proof for the CV64 master race.  8) (j/k!)

A lot of interesting points made during the video, I also like the Morris shout out at the end of the video, very cool. Also Belmont Conspiracy seems accurate too, I mean just check out Juese Belmont!  ;)
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: X on October 04, 2012, 10:20:37 AM
An extremely solid argument that video was. I liked very much. The discrepancies of the original novel and CV64/LoD are something I've never considered until now. Well Done!
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Beaumont_Belmont on October 04, 2012, 10:56:18 AM
How its a new concept if they did it since the beggining?

I guess what I mean is identifying Dracula as actually being Vlad instead of just using the name (other than both being Romanian nobles, there's not that much in common- Vlad was a Wallachian and the Count is a Transylvanian Szekely). 20 years ago identifying Dracula as the historic Vlad the Impaler probably seemed novel, but it's almost become a cliche unto itself.

On top of that, I think it's a little problematic giving a character like Dracula a solid origin story. Maybe the character WAS Vlad, maybe he was just an itinerant vampire looking for a castle and liked the idea of being called "Son of the Dragon/Devil". In the west we definitely have an overbearing need to know where something comes from, but I like the idea of Dracula having mysterious origins.

Although if Dracula IS supposed to be Vlad, that certainly throws an interesting light on his niece being Elizabeth Bartley/Bathory.
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Ratty on October 04, 2012, 11:07:40 AM
That was awesome. Thanks!
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Sindra on October 04, 2012, 05:54:21 PM
Ok, so that was completely interesting and I love the fact that someone else loves to delve into the theories of Castlevania lore, as convoluted as it all is, and come out with some fascinating concepts.







But that Judgement clip of Maria staring at Sypha's boobs? I'm fairly certain he stole that from my Castlevania 25th anniversary review done early that month last year. No lie. It took me forever to get the timing right on the clip. Just saying.
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: crisis on October 04, 2012, 06:05:57 PM
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But that Judgement clip of Maria staring at Sypha's boobs? I'm fairly certain he stole that from my Castlevania 25th anniversary review done early that month last year. No lie. It took me forever to get the timing right on the clip. Just saying.

+1
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Lelygax on October 04, 2012, 07:38:12 PM
But that Judgement clip of Maria staring at Sypha's boobs? I'm fairly certain he stole that from my Castlevania 25th anniversary review done early that month last year. No lie. It took me forever to get the timing right on the clip. Just saying.
Well, everyone can use a emulator or a DVD recorder to do that, but you can be right.
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: uzo on October 04, 2012, 08:42:30 PM
But that Judgement clip of Maria staring at Sypha's boobs? I'm fairly certain he stole that from my Castlevania 25th anniversary review done early that month last year. No lie. It took me forever to get the timing right on the clip. Just saying.

It's readily available, and not hard to find honestly; CastleVania Judgement Maria's Story (Boobies) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYTPWAavALg#)
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Ratty on October 05, 2012, 07:26:42 AM
It's readily available, and not hard to find honestly; CastleVania Judgement Maria's Story (Boobies) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYTPWAavALg#)
I remember for a while that was the #1 or #2 search result on youtube for "Castlevania"
While we're posting classics everyone remember this one? Re: CASTLEVANIA 2: SIMON's QUEST by the Angry Nintendo Nerd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbto1neHWQA#) I was always surprised that guy never got bigger in the whole "internet reviewer" scene after this.
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: TheCruelAngel on October 05, 2012, 08:55:00 AM
I remember for a while that was the #1 or #2 search result on youtube for "Castlevania"
While we're posting classics everyone remember this one? Re: CASTLEVANIA 2: SIMON's QUEST by the Angry Nintendo Nerd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbto1neHWQA#) I was always surprised that guy never got bigger in the whole "internet reviewer" scene after this.

That was a pretty sweet response review. Watched some of his other stuff and found them enjoyable. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Lelygax on October 05, 2012, 09:11:03 AM
Thanks Ratty, its pretty funny :)
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Richter Belmondo on October 09, 2012, 09:06:04 AM
Kid Dracula ,
Definitly
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Ratty on October 09, 2012, 02:19:11 PM
Kid Dracula ,
Definitly

Famicom or Gameboy?
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Flame on October 09, 2012, 06:59:07 PM
I remember for a while that was the #1 or #2 search result on youtube for "Castlevania"
While we're posting classics everyone remember this one? Re: CASTLEVANIA 2: SIMON's QUEST by the Angry Nintendo Nerd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbto1neHWQA#) I was always surprised that guy never got bigger in the whole "internet reviewer" scene after this.
AVGN is pretty darn "big", I'd say... He even just recently finished filming an Angry Videogame Nerd movie.

You've probably been following his Youtube, not his website, cinemassacre.com
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on October 09, 2012, 07:05:25 PM
Gotta love when there is some Castlevania64/Legacy of Darkness love around. :D
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Richter Belmondo on October 09, 2012, 10:31:33 PM
Famicom or Gameboy?
*Famicom
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Ratty on October 10, 2012, 01:03:43 AM
AVGN is pretty darn "big", I'd say... He even just recently finished filming an Angry Videogame Nerd movie.

You've probably been following his Youtube, not his website, cinemassacre.com

You missed the "Re:" and didn't follow the link I take it? Lol, that's not the AVGN, but a response video to his Simon's Quest review he got years ago.

Gotta love when there is some Castlevania64/Legacy of Darkness love around. :D

Agreed. :)

Here's another old but amusing Castlevania related video I just remembered, though it requires a small bit of explanation. Retsupurae is where two guys from Something Awful* make fun of bad Let's Plays by talking over them MST3K style.
They've also made fun of some terrible reviews which were made in the 1990s by George Wood for local TV and posted to youtube by Navgtr.
Wood's review of SOTN, in which he gives the controls a "C" (notice that he gives Tomb Raider 2's controls an A) and says there's "Nothing to set it apart from previous Dracula outings" is among the reviews Retsupurae'd.

George Wood also said that Goldeneye was terrible. But he's probably most remembered for his Laura Croft game idea.
Profanity warning
Great Video Game Idea! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s0lzbCK9f8#)
Symphony of the Night was disappointingly enjoyable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8vhGSm0rfw#)
*Including Slowbeef, who is credited with making the first video with "Let's Play" in the name. Though probably not the first "Let's Play" style video. "Let's Play" had previously been the name used on Something Awful for pictorial walkthroughs.
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: X on October 13, 2012, 10:58:49 AM
I think those two had a hell of a time making fun of the dude who didn't know what he was reviewing.  :)
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Lelygax on October 13, 2012, 03:52:01 PM
LMAO thats hilarious haha.
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: joethebro34 on October 21, 2012, 06:12:53 PM
How its a new concept if they did it since the beggining?
  Is there any accuracy needed when it comes to fiction?
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: crisis on October 21, 2012, 06:30:48 PM
No, however some accuracy is good to a certain degree, but definately doesn't have to be 100% (for instance, people saying Dracula absolutely MUST be the Vlad III from the history books :rollseyes:)
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: joethebro34 on October 21, 2012, 07:35:18 PM
The only thing that can be historically accurate about a fictional idea is that the idea was acknowledged as being fiction. 
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: CastleV on October 21, 2012, 08:38:56 PM
Kid Dracula ,
Definitly
It's me or younger Alucard in this pics is similar Kid Dracula ?

(http://imageshack.us/a/img5/6091/598995105.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/598995105.jpg/)

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Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on October 21, 2012, 09:31:52 PM
It's me or younger Alucard in this pics is similar Kid Dracula ?

(http://imageshack.us/a/img5/6091/598995105.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/598995105.jpg/)

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What game is THAT from? :o
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Koutei on October 22, 2012, 01:42:12 AM
What game is THAT from? :o
Monster Retsuden ORECA BATTLE
http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Retsuden_ORECA_BATTLE (http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Retsuden_ORECA_BATTLE)
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: X on October 22, 2012, 10:04:51 AM
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(for instance, people saying Dracula absolutely MUST be the Vlad III from the history books :rollseyes:)

Why can't Dracula be Vlad III? The two are virtually synonymous now and the Character Dracula was based off of Vlad III and not just in the given title 'Dracula' either. While they did start off as being separate entities, they both have the same origins and that is the real life Vlad Tepes and both are now coming back together. Besides, Vlad was far more brutal then Bram Stoker's fictional character ever was. By combining the real life Vlad with Dracula we get a worthy badass villain for the Belmont family imo  8)
 
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: crisis on October 22, 2012, 12:03:50 PM
There's nothing wrong with using Vlad III, but God forbid they (Konami, whoever) take some creative liberties and deviate from history a little bit [or a lot], then it's OMG THEY MESSED UP DRACULA AGHH
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Inccubus on October 23, 2012, 09:53:58 AM
Monster Retsuden ORECA BATTLE
http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Retsuden_ORECA_BATTLE (http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Retsuden_ORECA_BATTLE)

Hahaha!!! That is hilarious. I'm not not a huge fan of Pokemon, but this could inspire one to do a special hack for one of those. Aluca -> Alucard -> Dracula LOL!


There's nothing wrong with using Vlad III, but God forbid they (Konami, whoever) take some creative liberties and deviate from history a little bit [or a lot], then it's OMG THEY MESSED UP DRACULA AGHH

I kind of agree, except that I have no faith in any large organization taking "creative liberties" with anything and not fucking it up somehow.
Title: Re: CV game with the most historical accuracy for Dracula
Post by: Kale on October 25, 2012, 12:16:08 AM
That's pretty cool.

But the whole dragon shape thing was looked at ... wrong imo.

I believe the bible, at least the translated one, had Satan as a 7 headed dragon? or something like that, and I think that's where they were going with it. Instead of a literal dragon, I think they were going for the ultimate demon.