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Title: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Dremn on October 10, 2012, 02:19:25 PM
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/eshop/vc/index.html (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/eshop/vc/index.html)

October 17th, next week.

Hopefully a NA release isn't too far away.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: TheCruelAngel on October 10, 2012, 03:31:30 PM
Noticed a couple other VC titles I'd like to see released for my 3DS too (like Fire Emblem, Kunio-kun [River City Rampage], etc.) though one in particular caught my eye.

In the Wake of Vampire, turns out to be Master of Darkness a Game Gear/Master System title that was a lot like CV. I haven't heard about this game until now, but it looks pretty cool.

In the Wake of the Vampire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh5s5KJ90pQ#)

I haven't been on the eShop for awhile, but hopefully some of these titles come out. Especially CV. Though I was hoping more for a 3D remake, like with Excitebike than just a VC port. Oh well, I'll still pick it up when it comes out, but man do I wish they'd do a 3D one instead.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: PFG9000 on October 11, 2012, 02:46:48 AM
This is good news.  I'll pick it up for sure, not that I need another copy of CV1.  Thanks for the heads-up.

In the Wake of Vampire, turns out to be Master of Darkness a Game Gear/Master System title that was a lot like CV. I haven't heard about this game until now, but it looks pretty cool.

That's crazy.  It's totally a classic CV clone.  The whip, the holy water, the level design with stairs and platforms, the vampire-in-a-castle story, the carmilla mask enemies and dogs, everything is straight out of CV1-4.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Aridale on October 11, 2012, 03:26:32 AM
Its not that great. I actually had it on game gear and still got it somewhere on emu. Its clearly a CV clone but its not a very good one. The controls are annoying and its way more difficult than it needs to be
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: TheouAegis on October 11, 2012, 12:53:23 PM
That music is annoying too. It got on my nerves as soon as it looped.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Johnny Alucard on October 15, 2012, 08:53:06 PM
A US release is ways off.

NoA has been really bad with the eShop.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Ratty on October 15, 2012, 09:16:30 PM
In the Wake of Vampire, turns out to be Master of Darkness a Game Gear/Master System title that was a lot like CV. I haven't heard about this game until now, but it looks pretty cool.

I've got it for the Master System. It's about as close to a Castlevania adaptation of the original Bram Stoker novel as we're likely to get. What with the gothic Victorian London setting. It's interesting from a historical perspective as it shows how popular Castlevania was at the time, for Sega to need one on their NES rival. The game actually does a few things with enemies the Castlevania series itself would later do. That being said it's generally way too easy, and by the 3rd stage boredom may be your greatest enemy. It is still definitely worth picking up if you've got a Master System or power base converter and are a Castlevania fan. It's a lot closer to the originals and better designed than Kenseiden, the other game commonly identified as a "Castlevania clone" on the MS. But the prices for it have swung way up in recent years. I imported mine from Britain, the great thing about the Master System is that it's region free. The games don't usually live up to NES standards though.

PS- Region locking the 3DS was one of the dumbest things Nintendo has done in a while. "Board Member #1: Gee guys we're facing stiff competition in the mobile gaming market, cell phones offer more games for a whole lot less." "Board Member #2: I know! In addition to gimmicky 3D, we'll make our new handheld less convenient for travelers than the original Gameboy was!"
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Neobelmont on October 16, 2012, 03:58:54 AM
Two questions

1. why is fire emblem there damn it.
2 out of all the handheld cv games to choose konami picks this why???

My mind is full of what the heck.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: TheCruelAngel on October 16, 2012, 04:48:56 PM
PS- Region locking the 3DS was one of the dumbest things Nintendo has done in a while. "Board Member #1: Gee guys we're facing stiff competition in the mobile gaming market, cell phones offer more games for a whole lot less." "Board Member #2: I know! In addition to gimmicky 3D, we'll make our new handheld less convenient for travelers than the original Gameboy was!"

I think I've mentioned this before but region locking the system was for anti-piracy measures. Or at least, that's the official story I was given during my time in that particular industry. It feels like complete BS, and I think it has more to do with the Asian markets (we're looking at you China), but that's what they came up with.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Ratty on October 16, 2012, 05:49:24 PM
I think I've mentioned this before but region locking the system was for anti-piracy measures. Or at least, that's the official story I was given during my time in that particular industry. It feels like complete BS, and I think it has more to do with the Asian markets (we're looking at you China), but that's what they came up with.
Of course it's BS, there's absolutely no reason for region locking in today's world but bald faced greed.
There's no reason video games should cost two or three times as much in Australia as elsewhere for example, but because of region locking they get to control the market and inflate prices. As for the Asian countries you mentioned, who cares if they pirate? Nobody is losing sales because 1. Many if not the vast majority of people doing said pirating couldn't afford to pay the price for video games even if they want to. 2. Video game consoles are illegal in mainland China.

But this is made especially stupid when you consider the 3DS is a handheld, and all of Nintendo's previous handhelds from the original Gameboy to the DSi were region free so if you were traveling between countries or across continents you could buy games anywhere and they would work. Logic, what's that? What's more is that everyone knows region locking isn't even going to slow down pirates, though it might make them laugh.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: TheCruelAngel on October 16, 2012, 06:20:49 PM
But this is made especially stupid when you consider the 3DS is a handheld, and all of Nintendo's previous handhelds from the original Gameboy to the DSi were region free so if you were traveling between countries or across continents you could buy games anywhere and they would work. Logic, what's that? What's more is that everyone knows region locking isn't even going to slow down pirates, though it might make them laugh.

That part is incorrect, the DSi was region locked. Granted it was only region locked for DSi exclusive titles (http://www.giantbomb.com/nintendo-dsi-exclusive/92-3774/games/ (http://www.giantbomb.com/nintendo-dsi-exclusive/92-3774/games/)). Since the system was "backwards compatible" with the original DS it was region free for DS games. It's weak and nit picky but I thought I would at least point out that the DSi was, in fact, region locked.

As for the greed comment, duh? It's a major corporation that has seen sales falling for the past couple of years and is trying to find ways to make more money to keep itself from falling in on itself. 

And while consoles are illegal in China... Nintendo still has a presence there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQue) So protecting its IP and trying to make some money to pay their employees and develop new hardware and software is kind of important to them.

Now I'm not saying region locking the system wasn't a bad move, I think it totally is a bad move. I'm just laying out the facts, since I think people deserve the correct information and a little awareness of things behind the curtains, even if it doesn't change the outcome or opinion.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Ratty on October 16, 2012, 06:41:22 PM
That part is incorrect, the DSi was region locked. Granted it was only region locked for DSi exclusive titles (http://www.giantbomb.com/nintendo-dsi-exclusive/92-3774/games/ (http://www.giantbomb.com/nintendo-dsi-exclusive/92-3774/games/)). Since the system was "backwards compatible" with the original DS it was region free for DS games. It's weak and nit picky but I thought I would at least point out that the DSi was, in fact, region locked.

Ahh seems like I had heard that, but forgotten it. Mine is a DSlite.

As for the greed comment, duh? It's a major corporation that has seen sales falling for the past couple of years and is trying to find ways to make more money to keep itself from falling in on itself. 

And while consoles are illegal in China... Nintendo still has a presence there. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQue) So protecting its IP and trying to make some money to pay their employees and develop new hardware and software is kind of important to them.

Now I'm not saying region locking the system wasn't a bad move, I think it totally is a bad move. I'm just laying out the facts, since I think people deserve the correct information and a little awareness of things behind the curtains, even if it doesn't change the outcome or opinion.

This is true, I just think naked greed is a bad idea, particularly for a corporation which tries to maintain a family friendly image. I've heard of the IQue and thought it was an interesting little expirament but don't see how Nintendo hopes to start turning a serious profit with it or similar devices until the legal limitations on hardware and software sales in China are lifted.
Nintendo has been marketing to casual players since the success of the Wii (after appealing to hardcore gamers bit them in the ass with the Gamecube) and now that playerbase has been taken by Apple and facebook games. The answer to their financial woes is not to become less convenient or user friendly than that competition.

PS - Sorry if I came off with an aggressive tone or anything. I just get mad thinking about this sort of thing lol.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: TheCruelAngel on October 16, 2012, 07:34:57 PM
PS - Sorry if I came off with an aggressive tone or anything. I just get mad thinking about this sort of thing lol.

Water under the bridge, don't sweat it. These are easy topics to get heated about since we're so invested in them, both financially and emotionally.  ;D

I agree Nintendo needs to think of something to try and get their original market segment back, but they also need to look toward the more hardcore user market. I mean, I only touched my Wii recently (lol) to play Xenoblade and Last Story, all of the other drivel offered on the console is honestly a bore to me. And I think Nintendo saw that, which is why they're trying (though how successfully only the future will tell) to market the Wii U to a broader spectrum of gamers, casual to hardcore.

How will it pan out? Will the 3DS take the reigns for being the go-to device for handheld gaming fun? I think the outlooks are good, when I was at PAX this year everywhere I turned people were enjoying themselves on a 3DS. Which is a lot better than last year where you'd see one every once in awhile. And a lot of that lies in content available. If Nintendo made a eShop title that was the second coming of Angry Birds, I'm sure people would consider picking one up to play it.

So long story short; content will drive the sales. And though I pine for the days of picking up Japanese titles to play on my Nintendo handhelds, at least Sony still lets me do this without any modifications to their systems.  :D Thanks Sony!
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: GuyStarwind on October 16, 2012, 07:45:53 PM
Two questions

1. why is fire emblem there damn it.
2 out of all the handheld cv games to choose konami picks this why???

My mind is full of what the heck.

Should Fire Emblem not be there?
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Neobelmont on October 17, 2012, 03:34:51 AM
Should Fire Emblem not be there?

It should be in the us and other parts of the world not just japan. heck I cannot command hot chicks with blue, red and green hair, mostly blue in 8-bit.

marth does not count  :P
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: GuyStarwind on October 17, 2012, 05:11:28 AM
It should be in the us and other parts of the world not just japan. heck I cannot command hot chicks with blue, red and green hair, mostly blue in 8-bit.

marth does not count  :P

Well, I have to agree. Only way to play good old FE is by translation patches and emulators(unless you can read Japanese?). :-[
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: knightmere on October 18, 2012, 12:15:28 AM
This news might be interesting if we were getting a 3D Classics Castlevania.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: crisis on October 18, 2012, 04:41:35 PM
We should've had all 3 classic CV's in 3D by now. What's taking them so long?not that i'll be able to buy them anyway, my 3ds is broken -_-
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Dark Nemesis on October 18, 2012, 05:41:13 PM
We should've had all 3 classic CV's in 3D by now. What's taking them so long?not that i'll be able to buy them anyway, my 3ds is broken -_-


That's right, where is Castlevania 3D from the demonstration video of 3DS?
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on October 20, 2012, 12:21:11 PM
If Xevious and Excitebike can get an ARIKA remake in 3D, why isn't Konami and other companies jumping on this?
Kid Icarus and Kirby's Adventure as 3D Classics are flippin' awesome.

EDIT: Konami even already did so with Twinbee.  I'd love to see it done with Castlevania.  And Gradius.  And Contra.... .oh god Contraaa....
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Neobelmont on October 20, 2012, 04:49:47 PM
If Xevious and Excitebike can get an ARIKA remake in 3D, why isn't Konami and other companies jumping on this?
Kid Icarus and Kirby's Adventure as 3D Classics are flippin' awesome.

EDIT: Konami even already did so with Twinbee.  I'd love to see it done with Castlevania.  And Gradius.  And Contra.... .oh god Contraaa....

 While it's impossible I would love to play lagrange point and getsu fuma. oh and jackal  :)
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Abnormal Freak on October 25, 2012, 07:02:03 AM
So who of you mofoz is getting Castlevania: The Adventure on the 3DS Virtual Console when it's out? Saw it on the eShop, didn't specify a release date though.

I KNOW I'M GETTIN' IT :O

'cos it's a fun game and that'll hopefully increase the chances of seeing the sequel on 3DS.

Gotta say, playing GB games on 3DS VC is really nice. On a 3DS XL, that is. When you hold down start and select on startup, the grafix are super sharp and there's no ghosting and such like when I play on my GBA SP+. Plus it's nice to see games in B&W instead of the forced almost-color.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Ratty on October 28, 2012, 11:16:08 PM
Well, I have to agree. Only way to play good old FE is by translation patches and emulators(unless you can read Japanese?). :-[

So the official translation is that bad?
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: GuyStarwind on October 29, 2012, 02:26:14 AM
So the official translation is that bad?

The first six Fire Emblem games were never translated. So, unless you can read Japanese you have to find translation patch.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Super Waffle on April 26, 2013, 08:56:14 PM
Flea men take off five bars of your health just by bumping into you?

Skeletons tossing bones from the floor above you at random intervals so you never know when you're supposed to proceed?

Armor guys at the top of every staircase that retreat the moment you get near them and try to lure you into death traps, usually involving the flea men and/or skeleton guys?

Intentionally throwing so much hilarious shit on the screen at once that it exploits the NES's sprite flicker and players legit can't even see what's flying at them?

Oh, so Konami never actually intended anyone to finish this game without save states, basically.  how nice of them.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Neobelmont on April 26, 2013, 09:01:42 PM
Flea men take off five bars of your health just by bumping into them?

Skeletons tossing bones from the floor above you at random intervals so you never know when you're supposed to proceed?

Armor guys at the top of every staircase that retreat the moment you get near them and try to lead you into death traps, usually involving the flea men and/or skeleton guys?

Intentionally throwing so much hilarious shit on the screen at once that it exploits the NES's split flicker and players legit can't even see what's flying at them?

Oh, so Konami never actually intended anyone to finish this game without save states, basically.  how nice of them.

But it's possible  :rollseyes: I've done it a few times already.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Super Waffle on April 26, 2013, 09:13:55 PM
Mutant speedrunning freak.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Neobelmont on April 26, 2013, 09:28:43 PM
Mutant speedrunning freak.

  I'm far from a speed runner but I am freaky  :P
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Super Waffle on April 27, 2013, 02:26:44 PM
... Christopher Bee?

Christopher Lee's pet cat can shoot lasers out of its eyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXM_DNxeyXo#ws)

Sorry, Konami.  You can't make Christopher Lee any more hilarious than he already is.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Ratty on April 27, 2013, 03:42:45 PM
Intentionally throwing so much hilarious shit on the screen at once that it exploits the NES's split flicker and players legit can't even see what's flying at them?

Never had this problem in CV1. It's a very challenging game but it's doable. Then again I've only ever beaten Death without Holy Water once, and a random sickle killed me before I could get the ball then.
Title: Re: Castlevania finally hitting 3DS eShop in Japan soon
Post by: Maedhros on April 27, 2013, 08:27:13 PM
The only problem in CV is Death, seriously. Not really that hard.