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Title: DmC
Post by: crisis on January 17, 2013, 09:05:30 PM
So who has it? What do yall think?

I just bought it and the graphix are superb. I hear they look better on the 360 but whatever. Combat is fluid and i'm having fun thus far

and when Dante receives the white hair wig, he DOES take it off & says "not in a million years"  >:( >:(
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: TheCruelAngel on January 17, 2013, 09:10:58 PM
I haven't picked it up yet. Figured I pick up the better action game with a properly white haired protagonist next month than this.  :P

WARNING: GRAPHIC
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But I have heard good things about it, so I'll probably pick it up later.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: darkwzrd4 on January 17, 2013, 09:13:36 PM
I haven't played it because it isn't my style of game, but I have been watching a playthrough on youtube and it looks well done.  I just don't like Dante's new appearance and I think the scene with the white wig was just the makers of the game trolling the fans of the older games who are currently throwing a fits because of the reboot.
To be honest, I liked the old Dante better.  He was more badass and his attitude was...well it wasn't emo like this new Dante.  Gameplay and abilities are cool, but the character design sucks.  Story seems good, but I'm reserving final opinion of it until I see the rest of the game.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: VladCT on January 17, 2013, 09:24:49 PM
I think the scene with the white wig was just the makers of the game trolling the fans of the older games who are currently throwing a fits because of the reboot.
Rebooting a series into a "RAWR GRIMDARK" setting is one thing, actively going "lol fuck u old fans" is another. Seriously Tameem, stop making it harder for us to give you a second chance.

EDIT: Also...
Why DmC's Dante is a Bad Character (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuoUfyMUQTc#ws)
To compare this with another reboot we're all familiar with, Lords was merely polarizing, this...what the hell?
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Phoenix7786 on January 18, 2013, 02:09:18 AM
Dafuq game is that, Cruel?
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Munchy on January 18, 2013, 02:11:46 AM
Watched a Youtube playthrough. Plot wasn't as cringeworthy as I'd expected, though it has its SMH moments. From my time with the demo the combat seems pretty good actually, and there was a quick video someone made of a legitimately awesome combo sequence. I'd say my main complaints are the completely weaksauce bosses, some really obnoxious enemies that I just want to kill off rather than style on (those dumbass cherubs), and that the plot for all its ridiculousness is way too straight faced.

The similarities to DMC2 really make me laugh though. Demon executive, floaty jumping physics, slower gameplay, boss made out of pieces of a building, later levels that look normal except for demon poop or something being strewn everywhere; even one of the battle themes sounds nearly identical.

Tameem and Capcom's verbal diarrhea of a PR plan still piss me off (hm, this sounds familiar, oh wait Street Fighter X Tekken), and I'm holding off buying it until there's some confirmation of continuing the old series with DMC5. Even Cox's "Jump on the train or get left behind" comment was restrained in comparison. (Though in Tameem's defense, I sure as hell wouldn't want to take on a series like Devil May Cry, and I'd be pretty ireful too if my work was shat on the second it left the gate.)
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: P/\/\\/o on January 18, 2013, 01:28:29 PM
I cannot connect with the main character at all.  :P
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: VladCT on January 18, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
BTW, since he wrote his name as "FUCK YOU" in the bouncer's list, is it okay if we call him "FUCK YOU"?
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Rugal on January 18, 2013, 02:55:50 PM
This is how I beat the Hunter in DmC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuj05upk73I#ws)

Do I really need to go on in saying that this game fucking sucks? Go out and buy Devil May Cry HD collection and then buy Metal Gear Rising next month. Don't bother with this terrible excuse for a Devil May Cry game.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: TheCruelAngel on January 18, 2013, 03:16:44 PM
Dafuq game is that, Cruel?
The game I'm waiting for, as Rugal mentioned, is Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DE7HenZiBo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DE7HenZiBo)

If you're asking about the screenshot specifically, I think's it's a photoshop using a still from an earlier trailer and pasting Dante over it.

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Do I really need to go on in saying that this game fucking sucks? Go out and buy Devil May Cry HD collection and then buy Metal Gear Rising next month. Don't bother with this terrible excuse for a Devil May Cry game.
Reminds me of some of the fights from DMC2...
Devil May Cry 2 - easy & lazy way to defeat Plutonian boss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTqjpFWP20w#)
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: crisis on January 18, 2013, 04:57:30 PM
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Do I really need to go on in saying that this game fucking sucks?
All you do is bitch. I can't wait till LoS2/MoF is released to see you shit on every aspect of them for not being "true" Castlevanias. Why are you so condescending all the time? I mean you're totally entitled to your opinion but they're just games, have fun with them instead of tearing them apart for once dude (when the LoS2 trailer came out you went absolutely bat-shit crazy like sacrilege has been committed). Yeah the game has it's issues but I'm enjoying the game for what it is and it's fun-factor, rather than hating it for what it isn't.

Lame boss aside, the gameplay is intuitive, the narrative is good thus far but I don't like how the camera zooms in every time you get the deathblow on an enemy. DMC4 Dante will kick this guys ass, I'd love to see them in a future game together
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: shelverton. on January 18, 2013, 05:22:19 PM
I kinda like it. It's fun and looks great. I don't understand why people would say it's terrible. I like white hair too, but it's not a deal-breaker. That would be ridiculous. I'm happy Ninja Theory has finally made a good game. Didn't see it coming.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: thernz on January 18, 2013, 10:46:38 PM
I didn't actually dig the combat at all in the demo, but I might buy the game because of Beingthehero's signature.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Rugal on January 19, 2013, 03:10:40 PM
All you do is bitch. I can't wait till LoS2/MoF is released to see you shit on every aspect of them for not being "true" Castlevanias. Why are you so condescending all the time? I mean you're totally entitled to your opinion but they're just games, have fun with them instead of tearing them apart for once dude (when the LoS2 trailer came out you went absolutely bat-shit crazy like sacrilege has been committed). Yeah the game has it's issues but I'm enjoying the game for what it is and it's fun-factor, rather than hating it for what it isn't.

Lame boss aside, the gameplay is intuitive, the narrative is good thus far but I don't like how the camera zooms in every time you get the deathblow on an enemy. DMC4 Dante will kick this guys ass, I'd love to see them in a future game together

I can see you have very low standards, or none at all. By saying "the narrative is good" I can't really take you seriously. The gameplay is dumbed down completely from past titles and is lacking. DMC: Devil May Cock is mediocre at best and when put next to quality games such as DMC1, DMC3, Bayonetta, DMC4, those games just shit all over DmC. The dialogue in DmC is a fucking joke man and the sad part is, it takes itself seriously. Vergil: "I have a bigger dick" seriously? It's like they asked a group of middle school students to write the script to this game. I could post another video where the final boss walks circles around Dante and doesn't even attack him, but that would be spoilers. It's utterly pathetic.

You know what else is funny? DMC HD collection is selling more than DmC on Amazon. I'm sorry if you don't know what a good game is anymore, but DmC certainly isn't it. Here is a spoiler I will post though. Spoilers: You wasted $60. Go play Bayonetta or Anarachy Reigns until Metal Gear comes out. I for one don't appreciate being patronized by Capcom and Ninja Theory. Devil May Cry didn't need a fucking reboot, especially now with this utter tripe they gave to us this time.

Here. This guy said it better than I ever could: (WARNING SPOILERS)

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    For all of the defenders trying to shoot down the 'the combat is bad' complaints, I'm not sure what standard you're going by, but the standard of the series and the genre in general is far higher than the tripe that we got handed to us. It was watered down, boring combat that you could basically sleep through, not to mention the game was PAINFULLY easy even on the highest difficulties. Remember the Vergil vs Dante fight in DMC3? That was a thrilling, exciting and PROPER ending to a game. Vergin in DmC was incredibly easy, boring and slow paced, even on the highest difficulties.

    As for the 'story', I agree that the series has never had a STELLAR 10/10 BEAUTIFUL WOULD READ AGAIN story, but neither does this one. The characters are all unlikeable besides the old black guy (can't remember his name) that comes in towards the middle of the game. Vergil is contrived and gives off this air of being an obnoxious wanker, Donte is.. well, Donte. I feel like they couldn't settle on a character for him, was he an edgy FUCK YOU teenager? A kid with a rough child hood rising above it? An antagonistic douchebag? The answer is all of them, because they couldn't be fucking concrete with him and his personality.

    By the way, to all of the people saying that 'Ninja Theory does amazing stories', look at their history. The only notably good stories they've done were outsourced to far more capable writers, like Enslaved. And it shows. Not only is DmC a poorly written game with cringeworthy dialogue, but it doesn't try and dial it back and go ''Hey, guys! We're MEANT to be corny and a parody!" it takes itself SERIOUSLY, which is laughable in of itself. Outside of the notable lines like 'wet chunks', 'fuck you', 'you're an asshole', etc, the dialogue is bland and monotone or just plain not interesting. Having gone through the entire game from start to finish, I never felt enthralled by anything that was going on and simply laughed at the idiocy that was going on in my television more than caring about the story.

    A review score, though? 5/10 to anybody interested in an action game that is more than just a surface of edginess and buzz. 7/10 to casuals that don't want to dig deep into a combat system and enjoy a fun, carefree game with interesting characters."

Oh.. and as for LoS.. The moment they revealed it, sacrilege WAS COMMITTED AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED AAAHAHAHAHAHHA! I'll get it when it shows up in the bargain bin at my local cd trader shop for $10 like LoS1 is right now.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: crisis on January 19, 2013, 03:44:06 PM
^this is coming from a guy that thinks Dynasty Warriors is a good series. lol.

once again, all you do is bitch.
Bitch Bitch Bitch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkXrD7q2VHs#)
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Rugal on January 19, 2013, 04:45:46 PM
Dynasty Warriors 7 was great. I just wish they would stop making so many different versions. I'll probably pass up on DW8, though. Looks too much the same.

Great defense btw.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Munchy on January 19, 2013, 05:01:28 PM
Why must we always crap on each other for what we find good or not good? YOU'RE TEARING US APART!

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.badmovienite.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2Froom-lisa-tearing-me-300x199.jpg&hash=c155aa09bce601065dbe170e7e8b0b13c5de7877)

...Ahem. In any case, DmC is starting to be one of those Lords of Shadow cases where it puts me off initially, but its "Official Game of the Movie" vibe becomes weirdly magnetizing. Final Fight Streetwise did something similar.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: crisis on January 19, 2013, 05:16:15 PM
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Dynasty Warriors 7 was great. I just wish they would stop making so many different versions. I'll probably pass up on DW8, though. Looks too much the same.
cool story bro u should make a topic about it

anyway back on topic i like how the chain combos work so far, but i'm used to dodge/evading using the right analog stick (this game has you use the R1 button). taking me a while to get used to. it's also kinda annoying how every new enemy pops up the game just HAS to stop the flow and let you know it's name. this new mythos is interesting thus far; different than the canon DMC but still faithful in certain aspects, but i expected that so i'm not that disappointed. so i don't understand why people are still bitching about the story n stuff when it's common knowledge that reboots ALWAYS switch shit around to keep things fresh, yet keep some things familiar. avoiding spoilers cuz i'm eager to see where the story goes...
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Ahasverus on January 19, 2013, 06:08:26 PM
This game is great. best mainstream action game this gen for sure.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Rugal on January 19, 2013, 06:17:02 PM
This game is great. best mainstream action game this gen for sure.

I fuckin love this guy..
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: shelverton. on January 20, 2013, 09:25:47 AM
It's funny when one likes a game, and then someone else is all "NO YOU DON'T BECAUSE IF YOU DO YOU HAVE NO TASTE AND I KNOW CAUSE I HAVE GREAT TASTE!"

What is one supposed to say to that?
"Oh, you're right! The game does suck! I was too blind to see it cause I was having fun instead! I'll stop having fun right away."

Seriously? It's just a game. There are plenty of people who will enjoy DmC, much like how there are plenty of people who likes Dynasty Warriors 7 (which is one of the worst games I have ever played in my entire life, but I'm sure it's a great game for some. Just not for me. Why don't you try that approach with DmC instead of trying to "prove" to people that DmC is terrible?
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: VladCT on January 20, 2013, 10:33:20 AM
I'm not going to bitch about anyone actually liking the game, but suffice to say...
DmC: Devil May Cry (Reboot) Cutscenes (HD) Part 7 - Mission 6: Secret Ingredient (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ3s3kCZ1mo#ws)
...this game definitely isn't for me.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Rugal on January 20, 2013, 01:44:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Jp_LdHYU-tw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Jp_LdHYU-tw#)!

Such a quality fucking game. Keep defending it.

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And here is the video I mentioned about the final boss walking circles around Dante. Watch it at your own risk because you know.. Spoilers and hysterics. Error: no standards found.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: crisis on January 20, 2013, 02:16:08 PM
It's funny how Rugal keeps posting in a thread about a game he hates, and keeps coming back to a forum about a series he's been bitter about for years. Doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Rugal on January 20, 2013, 04:47:38 PM
"Fuck you"

Man I'm so EDGY JUST LIKE DANTE IM SO COOL
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: crisis on January 20, 2013, 05:08:49 PM
Nah, you're just coming off as an annoying whiny "IF IT'S NOT STREET FIGHTER IT SUXXX" fucktard now (well it's the same schtick you've been using on this forum for several years now so I shouldn't be surprised). But whatever, who am I to judge?

Lost a lot of respect for you man, not because of your opinion of DmC, but your constant prick-attitude in all your posts that contribute absolutely nothing. All you do is criticize and hate on shit. Oh well, keep crying on IGA's facebook wall on how you want him to return to Castlevania, it's hilarious. Or migrate to the shoryuken forums where I'm sure you'll feel right at home.


HADOUKEN~ YEEEOOOWWW



thread officially derailed lol
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Rugal on January 20, 2013, 05:37:57 PM
You're pretty funny.. When did I ever say "If it's not Street Fighter, it sucks"? Please pinpoint that post for me. Actually, I do post on Shoryuken forums and have been doing so since 2009. Pretty creepy of you to be stalking me on facebook..

I can really care less what you think about me. I'm really sorry that you're in such denial about DmC being a crap fest of a game. Hell, I'd play Lords of Shadow over DmC any day. Lords of Shadow wasn't a glitchy piece of shit at least, and the narrative wasn't written by middle school kids. Sorry if my standards are higher than yours.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: crisis on January 20, 2013, 07:05:08 PM
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blah blah i am Rugal blah blah
No one on this forum cares what you have to say anymore, as your reputation on the CVD went to shit long ago. Why are you still posting in this thread? Get lost already, geez.


Anyways... now I'm wondering if I should've bought this for 360 instead. I've noticed a few glitches that are kinda annoying but I'm looking past them, they're minor at best. It's not Bayonetta-PS3 bad, though. Gotta feeling Vergil's gonna betray Dante soon (i'm up to the part where I'm "fighting" Lilith). The game's also a tad on the easy side, I'm playing on Nephilim mode and only died a couple times. Maybe it's cuz I'm just that damn good at DMC games though, lol
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Ahasverus on January 20, 2013, 07:06:59 PM
The fuck? Go and play the game, Rugal,if anything, this Dante is one of the most conservative protagonist in this dudebro era, he's not edgy AT ALL, and the "Fuck you" cutscene if anything made sense, he's just fun, that's all, but not ridicously, if anything I was dissapointed he was not riding missiles and "whined" too much but well, that makes it more "human" and likeable.


You still can't play this game for story though.

What a KILLER gameplay. Entry barrier is low, but skill celling is HIGH, yet not frustrating, you can play it casually, get your ass kicked a lot but then educate yourself into being more focused and careful, this game is not for pussies yet every pussy could p´lay it because it's engrossing enough to be, ehm, "de-pussyfied". Awesome awesome awesome, I went right away to play DMC3 after I finished it, I found it a little janky for playing it casually (As I can see the DMC games have a dedicated community so talented that makes you feel ashamed for touching the control) but still I was ready to give it time.

I can only find it comparable to BAYONETTA that still is the absolute king of action games, and it's very casually playable too, like a lot, but you can feel you're missing a lot by doing so. Not here, there's hard awesome stuff, but you'll learn to learn it. I'm in love, simply as that, I'm in love.

And not get me started in an art direction only rivaled by.. you know who. I was amazed all my way through it. Lovely.

Wonderful game and against all odds, worthy successor of the DMC legacy.

@Crysis: 360 game is great, 30fps is certainly noticeable BUT it's the most fluid 30fps game I'v ever played. For sure! And I'm a fierce hater of Unreal Engine 3.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: crisis on January 20, 2013, 07:31:25 PM
Don't even acknowledge "rugal," his standards are so super-duper better than ours that he can shit on anything below his ultimate playstyle and devise witty comebacks to make himself feel cool. Just let Jorge deal with his attitude if he keeps acting like an ass.

I've yet to play Bayonetta so I can't comment on the gameplay, just from what I've heard from reviews. To call it the best action game ever is quite a statement.. I'd love to see [real] Dante (preferably from DMC4, my fav depiction of him) and Bayonetta cross paths in a game. Maybe I'll buy Bayonetta for 360 next (but I'm such a Sony fanboy...)

I also can't comment on any other Ninja Theory games (did they make Heavenly Sword?) so to hear that they did a good job with DmC doesn't mean anything to me.. yet!
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: thernz on January 20, 2013, 08:47:36 PM
And not get me started in an art direction only rivaled by.. you know who. I was amazed all my way through it. Lovely.
nah, no, it's not really that good. there's probably a problem in that you can only compare it with other games.
and most of those have terrible art direction. the stand-outs in art direction are still very clumsily executed and try too hard while attempting nothing meaningful.

here, it's a hodgepodge of overemphasized and overused palettes, elements riffed from they live, a rather bland rendition on commercialized "punk" elements, and a general lack of understanding the importance of priority or the actual role of visuals in game aesthetic.

what i am saying is that games are terrible
(dmc3 wasn't exactly attractive either)
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Neobelmont on January 20, 2013, 09:08:37 PM
This game is great. best mainstream action game this gen for sure.

for right now  ;)

wait a minute why mainstream?
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: crisis on January 20, 2013, 09:27:34 PM
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here, it's a hodgepodge of overemphasized and overused palettes, elements riffed from they live, a rather bland rendition on commercialized "punk" elements, and a general lack of understanding the importance of priority or the actual role of visuals in game aesthetic.
are you talking about limbo or the entire game lol

have other Ninja Theory games faired the same? I wouldn't know cuz I haven't played any
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Kingshango on January 20, 2013, 09:30:49 PM
Played it a few days ago. As a action game in itself it's competent, the weapons are ok (the glaves are my favorite along with rebellion) and the platforming is pretty good at times ('ll get back to this later). I've also noticed that there's not a single QTE in this game, which I found strange considering 1) it's a modern AAA title and 2) the last two Ninja Theory games had a significant amount of QTE's. It was refreshing to say the least. The visuals were at times very striking, especially for an Unreal Engine game (played the 360 version) the shifting environments of limbo were very cool the level design was varied and always threw something new at you.

Now for the negatives. The lack of a manual lock on really bothered me and it got frustrating trying to get that flying enemy that was hitting you offscreen at times. Why Ninja Theory decided to omit it is beyond me. The camera isn't totally good and can get in the way of platforming, which can get very repetitive itself towards the end. The style meter is broken to a point where you can get an SSS ranking with one hand, on DMD. The music is generic WUBstep that gets blasted through your ears in attempt to murder the eardrums, unless your into that sorta thing.

Now time to unleash my inner Devil May Cry fanboy on the game. *unlocks cage*

I hate Dante's character in this game, no it's not just the hair, it's the character in general. He's a complete unlikeable dickwad that only 14 year old One Direction and Justin Bieber fangirls will get moist over. While the old Dante was also a cocky dickwad at least he never go around screaming FUCK YOU to everyone. As for Vergil, I like his design (nice homage to his unused DMC1 model) but unlike his old counterpart, he has no sense of honor and would make some very out of character decisions (If you played the game you know the part im talking about). There's even a point in the game where I felt sorry for the bad guy and was rooting for him to smack Dante's shit. When I have to root for the bad guy in opposed to the heroes of the game, you did something wrong. The combat, while competent, pales in comparison to the previous games and being locked at 30 fps really hurts it, thankfully we have the PC version to scratch that 60 fps itch.

Overall I think the game is good on it's own, it's not 1.0 out of 10 bad like everyone makes it out to be, if anying it's more of a 7 out of 10. If your a hardcore Devil May Cry fanboy you will be disappointed that it doesn't stack up to it's previous games but it's still a decent action game worthy of a rent at least. I just hope that Ninja Theory improves on all the problems DmC suffered from in the sequel (we know it's happening since the core Devil May Cry team is busy working on Dragons Dogma 2.)
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Neobelmont on January 20, 2013, 09:33:46 PM
I will wait till it's cheap I have not bought a capcom product since MVC3

you never know with these guys.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: crisis on January 20, 2013, 09:57:19 PM
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While the old Dante was also a cocky dickwad at least he never go around screaming FUCK YOU to everyone.
he also kinda reminds me of Nero and his attitude (i believe he spewed several profanities just as much as neo-Dante). but Nero was a helluva lot more emotional, which can be good or bad depending on your tastes

Now that i think about it i kinda wish they continued with Nero's story in "DMC5," as there's still a lot of unanswered questions (his relation to Sparda being one of em. yeah i heard the manga or something "hints" that he may be Vergil's child but there's still no concrete confirmation. and when did Vergil find the time to sire a child with anybody? there's just inconsistencies i wanted to see cleared up)


I'm still on the fence on which game is more competent gameplay-wise, DMC4 or DmC..
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: VladCT on January 20, 2013, 10:06:46 PM
i believe he spewed several profanities just as much as neo-Dante
Nah, he says "bullshit" sometimes during a certain boss battle and flipped the finger at Dante in one instance, but that's pretty much it. He's certainly milder than Mr. Fuck You.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on January 20, 2013, 10:47:05 PM
Hmm... I am not fond of what I see from some of the long-standing members posting in this thread.  That is all I have to say, about that.

It would be nice if people were to post why they didn't like a game without resorting to over-the-top language to bolster their opinion.  Being louder, profane, and obnoxious with your responses doesn't make your opinions any stronger.  It just makes you look juvenile. 

On Topic,
I know next to nothing about DMC, so I cannot comment.  However, that game seems a bit on the glitchy side.  Then again, Assassin's Creed III was also hilariously glitchy but it was still a fun game to play.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Neobelmont on January 20, 2013, 11:20:00 PM
Hmm... I am not fond of what I see from some of the long-standing members posting in this thread.  That is all I have to say, about that.

It would be nice if people were to post why they didn't like a game without resorting to over-the-top language to bolster their opinion.  Being louder, profane, and obnoxious with your responses doesn't make your opinions any stronger.  It just makes you look juvenile. 

On Topic,
I know next to nothing about DMC, so I cannot comment.  However, that game seems a bit on the glitchy side.  Then again, Assassin's Creed III was also hilariously glitchy but it was still a fun game to play.

You have not tried out the demo Jorge?
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Rugal on January 20, 2013, 11:48:23 PM
Edit: nevermind. Someone called the cops on me.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: thernz on January 21, 2013, 12:07:41 AM
are you talking about limbo or the entire game lol

have other Ninja Theory games faired the same? I wouldn't know cuz I haven't played any
I meant in general. I just like having more range in color values. It feels like a cop-out to me, because they're trying to stretch out a palette and are too afraid to have different hues. It's common in a lot of things but it's stronger in DmC because of how washed out the visuals are. The opening cutscene feels like it had an additive gradient overlay. Though I guess on the bright side, at least it's really obvious in that it wants to have good art direction, and it tries to branch out and be different. But it ends up being like El Shaddai where the art direction is a crutch.

And I generally don't like the punk vibes in DmC because they don't feel genuine, especially with how it riffs from They Live, but takes itself too seriously about it. It feels like an attempt to make the character likable by making him this guy who's the archetypal rebel, but his archetype was ironically created and marketed for the mass market. NOT A REAL LOU REED. I'M TOO PICKY.

most of this is just from screenshots, videos, and the demo, but i think i have a solid enough idea of how the game looks color-wise from that considering i still played it.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Ahasverus on January 21, 2013, 02:26:15 AM
Don't even acknowledge "rugal," his standards are so super-duper better than ours that he can shit on anything below his ultimate playstyle and devise witty comebacks to make himself feel cool. Just let Jorge deal with his attitude if he keeps acting like an ass.

I've yet to play Bayonetta so I can't comment on the gameplay, just from what I've heard from reviews. To call it the best action game ever is quite a statement.. I'd love to see [real] Dante (preferably from DMC4, my fav depiction of him) and Bayonetta cross paths in a game. Maybe I'll buy Bayonetta for 360 next (but I'm such a Sony fanboy...)

I also can't comment on any other Ninja Theory games (did they make Heavenly Sword?) so to hear that they did a good job with DmC doesn't mean anything to me.. yet!
You owe yourself playing Bayonetta, like  really, it should be mandatory :P

for right now  ;)

wait a minute why mainstream?
Because it's not the type of game you have to master before appreciate and approach to it like a fighter (e.g the old Devil May Cry games, that need like 3 playtroughs for havng a sense of weight in gameplay). Ii's more in the same league of God of War, Lords of Shadow and pals than, well, the original Devil May Cry, God Hand and their pals. Or Bayonetta, because it's quite time-taxing, but the game can practically play itself ifyou want it too, and it's still awesome.


@Jorge: I swear to God I've never had encountered a glitch on Skyrim, Assassins Creed 3 or DmC. My Xbox is blessed by the gaming Gods, I think!
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on January 21, 2013, 02:46:12 AM
You do not play games like I play games, then.

Here is what happened to me in ACIII and I didn't even make these things happen, they just... happened!
-Wolves stuck inside trees (they looked like something out of Mother 3)
-Horses humping their water troughs
-Me exiting a shop and 'falling off of the world'.
-Tea boxes floating in mid-air (Boston Tea Party mission)
-Weaponry floating in mid-air.
-Hands/lockpicks being terribly off (clipping into the side of the lock) in lockpicking chest game.
-Incorrect characters spawning in some locations (poor Redcoat, he keeps on spawning in a fort I liberated, forcing the patriots to immediately kill him every time I quickjump to said fort).
-Lack-of-foresight hilarity:  Try switching to a dagger as your main weapon, then doing a mission in which you're supposed to zipline off of a long rope.  Connor will use the dagger's blade instead of the tomahawk resulting in a visual hilarity glitch.
...these are the ones that I can think of, off the top of my head.
-Incorrect head on Connor (sometimes he won't have a hood or will have a mohawk before you have one on him).

How you never saw at least one of these is beyond me.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on January 21, 2013, 02:56:25 AM
You do not play games like I play games, then.

Here is what happened to me in ACIII and I didn't even make these things happen, they just... happened!
-Wolves stuck inside trees (they looked like something out of Mother 3)
-Horses humping their water troughs
-Me exiting a shop and 'falling off of the world'.
-Tea boxes floating in mid-air (Boston Tea Party mission)
-Weaponry floating in mid-air.
-Hands/lockpicks being terribly off (clipping into the side of the lock) in lockpicking chest game.
-Incorrect characters spawning in some locations (poor Redcoat, he keeps on spawning in a fort I liberated, forcing the patriots to immediately kill him every time I quickjump to said fort).
-Lack-of-foresight hilarity:  Try switching to a dagger as your main weapon, then doing a mission in which you're supposed to zipline off of a long rope.  Connor will use the dagger's blade instead of the tomahawk resulting in a visual hilarity glitch.
...these are the ones that I can think of, off the top of my head.
-Incorrect head on Connor (sometimes he won't have a hood or will have a mohawk before you have one on him).

How you never saw at least one of these is beyond me.

I haven't played ACIII. Wow! Those are amazing glitches!
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on January 21, 2013, 03:08:18 AM
Assassin's Creed 3: Officer Dancing Glitch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBPUzmgKcU0#ws)
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: VladCT on January 21, 2013, 03:45:39 AM
You do not play games like I play games, then.

Here is what happened to me in ACIII and I didn't even make these things happen, they just... happened!
-Wolves stuck inside trees (they looked like something out of Mother 3)
-Horses humping their water troughs
-Me exiting a shop and 'falling off of the world'.
-Tea boxes floating in mid-air (Boston Tea Party mission)
-Weaponry floating in mid-air.
-Hands/lockpicks being terribly off (clipping into the side of the lock) in lockpicking chest game.
-Incorrect characters spawning in some locations (poor Redcoat, he keeps on spawning in a fort I liberated, forcing the patriots to immediately kill him every time I quickjump to said fort).
-Lack-of-foresight hilarity:  Try switching to a dagger as your main weapon, then doing a mission in which you're supposed to zipline off of a long rope.  Connor will use the dagger's blade instead of the tomahawk resulting in a visual hilarity glitch.
...these are the ones that I can think of, off the top of my head.
-Incorrect head on Connor (sometimes he won't have a hood or will have a mohawk before you have one on him).

How you never saw at least one of these is beyond me.
So, uh...are you friends with this guy or something?
Assassin's Creed 3 Bloopers, Glitches, & Silly Stuff by Ben Buja (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_bm8VzTSyg#ws)
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Claimh Solais on January 21, 2013, 06:14:25 AM
So I beat this not long ago. And I have to say, aside from the 30FPS being slightly distracting, a few voice-over problems
(click to show/hide)
and a bit of rage at the end, this is EASILY the best Devil May Cry. No doubt.

^Not sarcasm

But I have no taste in games, so what do I know.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Kale on January 22, 2013, 05:34:45 AM
So I beat this not long ago. And I have to say, aside from the 30FPS being slightly distracting, a few voice-over problems
(click to show/hide)
and a bit of rage at the end, this is EASILY the best Devil May Cry. No doubt.

^Not sarcasm

But I have no taste in games, so what do I know.

Your spoilers is....... inherent in the series, and I guess they didn't cast that part out of the remake! HAH!

A few questions, did you like 4 the best previously? How is the combat? Someone claimed it to be dumbed down to a present time 6 year old's standard of hard.

And what version did you play?
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Ahasverus on January 22, 2013, 10:38:04 AM
Your spoilers is....... inherent in the series, and I guess they didn't cast that part out of the remake! HAH!

A few questions, did you like 4 the best previously? How is the combat? Someone claimed it to be dumbed down to a present time 6 year old's standard of hard.

And what version did you play?
It's easier than the old ones sure, but hell it isn't 6yo difficult. I was kicked many ,many times sonce the very first stage (In personal DMC tradition).
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: crisis on January 22, 2013, 12:52:43 PM
the thing about difficulty is that it's entirely subjective; what one person may find hard another person may find child's play. if you've had trouble playing through any of the previous DMC's then this game should be no different. Whoever said that the difficulty has been dumbed down to a 6y/o's expertise is just full of it, it's not easy by any means. However if you're well-versed in the gameplay of the series (and perhaps action games in general) then you won't have too much of a problem with DmC. I just beat it and am currently replaying on Dante Must Die mode.

How I rate the series thus far is like this (from best to worst):
DMC1(mainly cuz of the awesome final battle, still yet to be topped in the series imo)-DMC3-DmC-DMC4-DMC2
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Munchy on January 24, 2013, 08:35:15 PM
Just from watching here are some things I appreciate about this game:

-The linear levels. I loved beating shit up in DMC4 but I always, always get lost in the friggin' castle. Yes, I play nonlinear stuff like horror games all the time and probably have no excuse. But I'm fine with not getting lost sometimes, especially when I just want to get to the next wave of assholes.
-Move names showing up under the style meter is cool.
-I also enjoy the tips mid level about the different effects of attacks (like parrying projectiles with Prop Shredder). These would have been handy in other games because there's SO much you can do that you'd otherwise miss without reading an FAQ.
-I'm not crazy about collectibles counting towards a level's final score but at least they stay "collected" once you get them. Having to hunt down every red orb was a huge pain in the ass in other games. (DMC4 >:()
-Some of the music I'm not crazy about either but other tunes fit in very well with the style of music that's been used since DMC3.
-Though there is a bit of context-sensitive stuff, no QTEs in sight. JOY!!!
-Along those lines, no wall shimmying or super-slow platforming in that regard. Not that I play DMC for platforming anyway.
-All your weapons are available at once. (DMC4 did this too, but you had 3 at once where this game has 5.)
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: VladCT on January 26, 2013, 01:36:29 PM
DmC Bug - SUPERMAN DANTE! Stream Highlight - Devil May Cry XBOX 360/PS3/PC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEEJxGlQRcM#ws)
I must admit, this bug was rather amusing.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Claimh Solais on January 26, 2013, 06:07:02 PM
Your spoilers is....... inherent in the series, and I guess they didn't cast that part out of the remake! HAH!

A few questions, did you like 4 the best previously? How is the combat? Someone claimed it to be dumbed down to a present time 6 year old's standard of hard.

And what version did you play?

Yes, I beat all the other four. The combat is FANTASTIC. Aerial combat EXISTS in this game. It's great, and going back to DMC3 and 4, I just feel so limited. The game's not exactly as hard as the older games, but it's pretty decently difficult.

I was playing on PS3.

Just from watching here are some things I appreciate about this game:

-The linear levels. I loved beating shit up in DMC4 but I always, always get lost in the friggin' castle. Yes, I play nonlinear stuff like horror games all the time and probably have no excuse. But I'm fine with not getting lost sometimes, especially when I just want to get to the next wave of assholes.

^This, pretty much. I hated constantly revisiting places in the other games, more specifically DMC3, with it's bland level design.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Munchy on January 26, 2013, 07:02:39 PM
For some reason DMC3's backtracking never really confused me the way it did in DMC4. Probably because I've played it much, much more.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Kale on January 28, 2013, 01:31:20 AM
Yes, I beat all the other four. The combat is FANTASTIC. Aerial combat EXISTS in this game. It's great, and going back to DMC3 and 4, I just feel so limited. The game's not exactly as hard as the older games, but it's pretty decently difficult.

I was playing on PS3.

^This, pretty much. I hated constantly revisiting places in the other games, more specifically DMC3, with it's bland level design.

Ah, I meant, did you like DMC4? and how is it comparable to 4. Because I really liked 4. Mainly because Nero's weapon (probably).
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Pfil on January 31, 2013, 09:38:44 PM
My favourite parts of the Devil May Cry saga were the story of DMC III and the beauty of the levels of DMC 4.
I didn't like anything about DMC II.
From what I've seen on the web, it doesn't seem like the new DmC is something I'm going to like, but I'll say for sure when I play it.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: crisis on January 31, 2013, 10:00:41 PM
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My favourite parts of the Devil May Cry saga were the story of DMC III and the beauty of the levels of DMC 4.
I didn't like anything about DMC II.
From what I've seen on the web, it doesn't seem like the new DmC is something I'm going to like, but I'll say for sure when I play it.

DMC4's levels are definately a lot more gothic & serene, whereas DmC's levels are a lot more chaotic in nature with surreal stages (that's the nature of the game), and honestly I felt more fun to navigate through than DMC4. The most common thing people on the internet seem to hate about DmC is Dante's character. Otherwise the game is definately worthy of the DMC title as it's combat is definately up to par, the platforming segments are fun and the enemies constantly keep you on your toes. The dialogue is definately more "adult" than all the other games (personally I think it's better than the cheese-tastic dialogue of DMC1 & DMC2), and the scenario isn't anything groundbreaking but I believe this is a good start to a reboot of the series. Dante is an immature asshole, sure, but without spoiling anything this game can be considered as "DmC: Dante's Awakening," so I expect in DmC2 Dante's personality will be more "mature" since he goes through a character arc in this game (granted he'll still be a cocky SOB because that's just the way he is). This review pretty much sums up my thoughts on the game:

DmC: Devil May Cry Angry Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4NaBrFkiDo#ws)
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: TheCruelAngel on January 31, 2013, 10:31:54 PM
That was a good review. I lol'd pretty hard at the emo song sequence.
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: Kale on February 01, 2013, 05:00:57 AM
I just beat it.... and it's not bad.

There are a lot of faults that is a bit hard to not mark it down for but it's not bad.

Weapon swap is terrible imo, hold down a button for it is just a bad idea.
No lock on is really bad. Even more so with the annoying enemies in this game.
Because no lock on is available, moves are executed differently, and it's for the worst imo.
Dante's character is horrible.... though closer to the end he develops into a better character. But he's half emo, half I'm a cocky badass with no concern thing is just unbearable.
Virtually all the characters are just...... stupid.
The game forgoes any real sense of logic, or so it seemed to me. Not even video game logic made sense.
Devil Trigger is just retarded.

However the level design were pretty awesome though.

There are more gripes and possible gems though. But it's fun to play, and that's what really counts for me for a DMC.
Title: Vergil Falls Down
Post by: crisis on March 07, 2013, 01:21:36 AM
The DLC 'Vergil's Downfall' is now available. The landscape in this surreal place is awesome. The cutscenes take a cue from LoS' DLC, if you remember what those were like. I'm halfway through it, and I'm assuming the finale will set the stage for DmC2. If you mildly enjoyed DmC then you should download it, it's only $8.99
Title: Re: DmC
Post by: crisis on March 08, 2013, 01:09:59 AM
Well to those that wanna get spoiled without forking over the cash, here's what happens:

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Title: Re: DmC
Post by: KaZudra on March 08, 2013, 05:47:45 AM
Finally got to playing it for myself...
I just Beat the Succubus and....

I'm liking it, sure the only thing that this game inherits from the original is overall plot, but honestly I think this game would have been super successful as a new IP