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Title: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Kale on January 30, 2013, 03:59:34 PM
http://en.rocketnews24.com/2012/12/16/anime-vs-real-life-a-picture-dump/ (http://en.rocketnews24.com/2012/12/16/anime-vs-real-life-a-picture-dump/)

It's pretty cool.

It slowly gets worst as you go down.   :(
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: crisis on January 30, 2013, 04:40:37 PM
Is there an online anime-generator where you can upload your photo & it turns it into an anime drawing? i wanna upload something like that to my instagram
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on January 30, 2013, 04:41:22 PM
Some of those look better as real people in comparison to their anime counterparts, like the girl with the flowers on her hat, the girl taking off her top with the blue swimsuit under, and the girl putting on the headphones (#3).
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Mooning Freddy on January 30, 2013, 05:11:46 PM
It always seems odd to me how anime characters almost never have slanted eyes and big noses like their asian artists.
It's like they're uncomfortable with their racial characteristics or something. You may say it's just because the art style is simplistic.
But I think that's not the only reason.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Kale on January 30, 2013, 05:21:53 PM
I always thought it was to appeal to the "cuteness" big bright eyes, and all.

Prime example...

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Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on January 30, 2013, 05:30:13 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjorgefuentes.inverteddungeon.com%2Fimages3%2Flolmischiefmakerseyes.png&hash=2761fe9dc78b391abd5e507cd541f907ad38c0f9)

Here's an UnPrime example, hahaha.
In real life?  Not so much.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheCruelAngel on January 30, 2013, 06:21:01 PM
A lot of anime's original styling were derived off of Tezuka's works in the 40's and 50's, who in turn was inspired by the works of a certain Walt Disney.

There's been talk about "why anime all whities? lol" but that's always been asked from a Western perspective. From an Eastern perspective (not slanted or squinty, you racists!) they're seen as Asians. Some of this is derived from the culturally "default human" that resides in the back of the subconscious. When we see a "human-esque" representation (stick figure, for example) we default to what we believe the person to be. Someone from Africa would see the stick figure as African, Europe a European and in Asia an Asian.

Read more about "Default Human" (http://www.bigwowo.com/2010/06/the-default-human-being/)
More reading via Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5627268/why-do-japanese-characters-look-white)

I mean...have you seen anime depiction of "white guys"? They all have long noses, yellow hair and dramatically blue eyes. It's a racial stereotype for how the Japanese perceive Westerners to look.

More of foreigner represented in anime, though covers Americans I think also applies to Europeans as well. (http://animeoshiete.blogspot.com/2012/07/baka-gaijin.html)

As for the images themselves, I've seen them posted before and find the varying degrees of awesome is largely dependent on the artist and his/her interpretation.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Kale on January 30, 2013, 06:21:27 PM
That's bad... but then again, there was some girl that got her eyes "anime'd" surgically.

Didn't Disney start in the 50s?
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheCruelAngel on January 30, 2013, 06:26:29 PM
20's.

Walt Disney Animations Steamboat Willie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBgghnQF6E4#)
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheouAegis on January 31, 2013, 03:12:34 AM
Disney's the fucking devil. I can't help but wonder if there's some clause in the contracts now that says Disney's artists can't go freelance during their tenure. I mean, what with Don Bluth leaving and starting up his own successful animation studio and all when we were growing up...You pretty much never see cartoonists trying to make a name for themselves anymore. What's up with that socialistic crap? I blame Disney.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Mooning Freddy on January 31, 2013, 04:41:28 AM
Interesting. Some rare depictions of Westerners in anime are hilarious.

Worst black guy in a japanese dub ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtzlKJ1dObU#)

Didn't Disney start in the 50s?

If they did, we'd miss all those epic 40's war-propaganda cartoons. Even though I like Popeye's better.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: VladCT on January 31, 2013, 04:48:43 AM
Wow, uncanny valley kicked in pretty fast for me when they're derived from real life. Not so much when there's enough stylization though.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Neobelmont on January 31, 2013, 04:50:09 AM
Wait a minute

Anime Guy On A Date (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66hSiRgbgX0#noexternalembed-ws)
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Ratty on January 31, 2013, 05:11:40 AM
A lot of anime's original styling were derived off of Tezuka's works in the 40's and 50's, who in turn was inspired by the works of a certain Walt Disney.
Pretty sure Tezuka was more influenced by Betty Boop than Mickey.
He probably did wind up taking some inspiration from Disney at some point, but then Disney ripped him right the hell off by changing what was originally going to be a remake of Tezuka's "Kimba the White Lion" into "Simba our ttly original lion character do not steal". The only reason Disney didn't get sued for that was they could afford better lawyers. Ahhh the circle of life.

That's bad... but then again, there was some girl that got her eyes "anime'd" surgically.

Didn't Disney start in the 50s?

A few, keep in mind this is like, hundreds of thousands of dollars of plastic surgery
http://izismile.com/2012/02/08/woman_undergoes_10_surgeries_to_become_anime_character_21_pics.html (http://izismile.com/2012/02/08/woman_undergoes_10_surgeries_to_become_anime_character_21_pics.html)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/01/anastasiya-shpagina-anime-cartoon-pictures-photos-surgery_n_1929012.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/01/anastasiya-shpagina-anime-cartoon-pictures-photos-surgery_n_1929012.html)

Disney started in the 1920s when Felix the Cat was the biggest thing around. But it really began to dominate in the 1950s when "family values" paranoia started to permeate every facet of American life.


Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Gunlord on January 31, 2013, 07:37:26 AM
I wish I was anime ;_;
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheCruelAngel on January 31, 2013, 02:38:58 PM
Not yet, Gunlord...make that wish after we have giant mecha, otherwise you'll be stuck in some lame slice-of-life style anime.  :P
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: X on January 31, 2013, 03:44:09 PM
Quote
Not yet, Gunlord...make that wish after we have giant mecha, otherwise you'll be stuck in some lame slice-of-life style anime.  :P

I'd have to agree. Waaaaaay too much drama in those slice-of-life animes. The kinds of things that already exist whenever you step outside of your home.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheCruelAngel on January 31, 2013, 04:08:13 PM
I'd have to agree. Waaaaaay too much drama in those slice-of-life animes. The kinds of things that already exist whenever you step outside of your home.

What immediately comes to mind is the ending for School Days. I haven't actually seen it, but...it's still pretty infamous. Also it spawned this meme.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fani.me%2Fsite_media%2Fmedia%2Farticles%2F2012%2F07%2F23%2Fnice-boat_jpg_650x10000_q85.jpg&hash=ffb482b769cbd771cf48bf738da522fdc7447f1e)
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Laina on January 31, 2013, 09:23:05 PM
Anastasiya Shpagina - Real Life Anime Girl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuuOM8Ok_nE#ws)

Abenobashi hot dog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bdq4e_S0ck#ws)

And in English!

My Favorite American Stereotype From Japanese Anime (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0dTG1_x-K8#ws)
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Neobelmont on January 31, 2013, 11:34:57 PM
I'am all ready in an anime.
an anime where cards matter and I gotta believe in the heart of them.

OH wait I just play the game. man....
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 01, 2013, 03:35:48 AM
I'am all ready in an anime.
an anime where cards matter and I gotta believe in the heart of them.

OH wait I just play the game. man....

You don't have to be in an anime just for that. Real life will suffice. hehehe...

I'd have to agree. Waaaaaay too much drama in those slice-of-life animes. The kinds of things that already exist whenever you step outside of your home.

I do not like those anime. I watch anime to escape reality. So bring in those Mecha!
I wish I were in Japan when these games were introduced... http://www.gundam-kizuna.jp/index.php (http://www.gundam-kizuna.jp/index.php)
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Ratty on February 01, 2013, 08:46:27 AM
What immediately comes to mind is the ending for School Days. I haven't actually seen it, but...it's still pretty infamous. Also it spawned this meme.

Haha I remember I had an anime-obsessed roommate one time (the kind who would wear his official Naruto headband when he thought I was asleep while he watched the latest fansubs) who stumbled on that ending on youtube not knowing what it was, just looking up random animes. He was traumatized and kept bringing it up for like a week.

And in English!

My Favorite American Stereotype From Japanese Anime (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0dTG1_x-K8#ws)

Well this seems to be about the most accurate portrayal of Americans in any medium I've ever seen. Elvis is and always will be the king, fuck is one of the most versatile words in the English language, and we do love our hotdogs and cheerleaders.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 01, 2013, 02:34:07 PM
Well this seems to be about the most accurate portrayal of Americans in any medium I've ever seen. Elvis is and always will be the king, fuck is one of the most versatile words in the English language, and we do love our hotdogs and cheerleaders.

Fuck yeah! Even Miku can't resist the allure of Hot Dogs.
Corolla + Miku - Hotdog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIxI1eB2-vo#ws)

And oh god, Abenobashi, I love that anime something fierce.

I wish I were in Japan when these games were introduced... http://www.gundam-kizuna.jp/index.php (http://www.gundam-kizuna.jp/index.php)

Mecha ftw! I wish I found those when I was in Japan last! I went to a few arcades in Akihabara and Osaka and it was just fighting games and Gundam Extreme Vs. Which is a good game in it's own right.  ;D

I think this is now anime general so~
MECHA~! What series/franchises of mecha anime do you like? Which do you recommend? I'll list a couple of my absolute favorites, which also come highly recommended!

Gunbuster/Aim for the Top! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunbuster)
Macross (Franchise) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macross)
Gundam (Franchise) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gundam)
Bubblegum Crisis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubblegum_Crisis)
GaoGaiGar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Braves_GaoGaiGar)
Getter Robo OVAs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getter_Robo)
The Five Star Story (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_Star_Stories)
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheouAegis on February 02, 2013, 03:07:41 AM
Bubblegum Crisis is a battle suits anime, not mecha. There's a difference. And it will always be one of the best ever made. Killer soundtrack, too.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 02, 2013, 06:11:09 AM
Aside from the Gundam series (I have a massive collection from the Seed/Destiny series),
I liked this: Fafner in the Azure

Some of the people I know suggest Code Geass, but I haven't watched it.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Ratty on February 02, 2013, 02:30:02 PM
I think this is now anime general so~

I'm not a huge anime fan but there are series and films I like. Only the Gundam 08th MS Team sticks out in my mind as a mech series I really enjoyed and that has stayed with me. I adored Gundam Wing as a kid but last time I tried to watch it it was a bit painful to sit through.

Aside from Mecha though...
Off the top of my head the series I've enjoyed and that have stuck with me have been-

-Outlaw Star
-Sherlock Hound
-Hellsing Ultimate (and 13 episode tv series to a much lesser extent)
-Trigun
-Vampire Hunter D films
-Blue Sub No. 6 mini-series.
-Slayers

Honorable mention-
-Dominion Tank Police
-Darkstalkers OVA (not much of a story most of the time but love the animation)

The Berserk manga is one of my favorite artistic works in any medium, but I never got into the old anime and haven't had a chance to see the newer OVA yet. I'm a bit disappointed that it's only going to cover the same ground the older anime did, albeit a lot more faithfully (with supernatural elements intact) than the old one I'm sure.

I'm open to trying new series but most of the stuff just seems so generic.

PS- Is it weird that I like Dominion Tank Police more than Ghost in the Shell? :I I still need to watch the movie for the latter, but I read the manga.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheouAegis on February 02, 2013, 06:32:54 PM
Dominion is fun. GITS is philosophical psycho-babble. That and the Dominion anime's US dub is so fun. Annapuna made my balls drop.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Ratty on February 02, 2013, 08:29:28 PM
Dominion is fun. GITS is philosophical psycho-babble. That and the Dominion anime's US dub is so fun. Annapuna made my balls drop.

Yeah that seems to be the general consensus from people who've read both. And gotta love the Puma sisters.

I forgot about FLCL, haven't seen or thought about it much in years. Even though it was basically a coming of age tale wrapped up in zany editing and reference-sprinkled non sequitur humor it felt really powerful at the age I first saw it. I was in a really bad place in my life at the time though, maybe why I don't think about it so much. I always wished the music of The Pillows became more widely available after that though.

Ride on shooting star/the pillows (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4_Qzx-E2LQ#ws)
This song and "Crazy Sunshine" can still give me chills. I'm told that they sound like generic J-rock but they reminded me of a Japanese Weezer before that stopped being a high compliment.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Gunlord on February 02, 2013, 08:48:36 PM
If I was in an anime I could be like this, though:

Sketchbook Full Color'S - Cat English (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avXk78-lKcA#ws)
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Neobelmont on February 03, 2013, 04:30:15 AM
some memorial animes when I was young for me were

Rurouni kenshin this fight was sick

Best Anime Fights: Kenshin vs Saito (Full Fight) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e58S2n5Ue64#ws)

Gundam Wing OP 1 ~Just communication~ [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpMieFLC404#ws)

Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters: Opening 2 ~ Shuffle (Creditless) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUihDsZjldI#)
This show ahh!!!.fvkf



Dragon Ball Opening 02 Japones - Japanese - NP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dqq2LS-K10#)
I will always believe this that db is better than dbz. better story,fights just everything is better

and there was outlaw star but man I can barely remember that


Edit: there is one more and that's because I had a slight crush on her  when I was little  :-[

HD Blu Ray: Cardcaptor Sakura Opening 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDBSV8DL1lU#ws)
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Ratty on February 03, 2013, 10:29:47 AM
...and there was outlaw star but man I can barely remember that

For shame.
Toonami Outlaw Star Promo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SPBJRzW2HM#)

I also liked Toonami's other tagline for the series "Wild West... Y2K style!"
It's just a pity that there was no second season or release of the rest of the manga series. Ctrl-Ctrl Empire forever!

PS- I expect the main reason I can't enjoy Gundam Wing like I did back in the day is that a show about a bunch of 11 year olds saving the earth via giant robots is really exciting as long as you are around that age yourself. Zechs always was my favorite though.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 03, 2013, 12:16:30 PM
The original Gundams with Amuro will always be the best. Char Aznable is my fave!
Wing for me was political
After war gundam X, i hate this show
Seed and Destiny were into too much character drama
00 was more political and they killed the character I liked at the end of the first season, so it was a downer
I did not follow through the rest of the more recent gundams.

As for non- mecha animes,
I liked Blood+
Sword art online ( just continue the story on the fan translated light novels somewhere in the web)
Rurouni kenshin until the shishio arc

I prefer the manga versions of
Magic knight rayearth and all the works of Clamp until card captor sakura, anything after i consider so-so.
Black butler
Trinity blood
Rave
 So far those are what i can think of.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 04, 2013, 03:03:55 PM
For Gundam, I really do recommend all of the Universal Century (MSG, Zeta, Double Zeta, 0080, 0083, F91, Char's Counter Attack, Victory, 08th MS Team, IGLOO, etc.) fantastic story with an amazing universe. IMO, definitely worth everyone's time.

Though for AU (alternate universe) Gundam titles, I think my most recommended is Turn A Gundam. The designs were done by Syd Mead (Bladerunner, Alien, etc.) with the direction of Yoshiyuki Tomino (original Gundam creator and responsible for most of UC). It's kind of like Gundam meets Ghibli, and most of my friends that I had watch it, really enjoyed it.

Bubblegum Crisis is a battle suits anime, not mecha. There's a difference. And it will always be one of the best ever made. Killer soundtrack, too.

So then these don't count for mecha?
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 ;D Though the hardsuits are definitely battle suits. And agreed, that soundtrack is killer.

Some of the people I know suggest Code Geass, but I haven't watched it.

Well, if you like CLAMP, Gundam or Death Note, then I think you'd probably enjoy Code Geass. S1 is definitely better than S2 (just like 00!) but it's worth an entire watch through.

Though you really don't like Gundam X? Even after watching the original MSG? I thought it was a lot stronger than Wing, even in the shorter time span it was allotted. But then again, I also think Destiny is the weakest in the entire Gundam metaverse. ;D I hate that one (though I think the Destiny Gundam's design is sweet). So I suppose to each their own.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheouAegis on February 05, 2013, 12:37:18 AM
Nope, still call those battle suits.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 05, 2013, 08:00:36 AM
Well, if you like CLAMP, Gundam or Death Note, then I think you'd probably enjoy Code Geass. S1 is definitely better than S2 (just like 00!) but it's worth an entire watch through.

Though you really don't like Gundam X? Even after watching the original MSG? I thought it was a lot stronger than Wing, even in the shorter time span it was allotted. But then again, I also think Destiny is the weakest in the entire Gundam metaverse. ;D I hate that one (though I think the Destiny Gundam's design is sweet). So I suppose to each their own.

Oh thanks for the info on Code Geass.
As for X, most likely the dubbing killed my appetite for the show. I'll watch it again in Japanese, perhaps I would change my mind.
I agree on Destiny as the weakest. I think there was some sort of fight behind the scenes causing the bad writing, to my dismay. The special edition dvds are a better option than sitting through the problematic hit-or-miss 52 episodes.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 05, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
Nope, still call those battle suits.
Well if you call this a battle suit too, then at least you're consistent.

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Though I still politely disagree.  ;)

Oh thanks for the info on Code Geass.
As for X, most likely the dubbing killed my appetite for the show. I'll watch it again in Japanese, perhaps I would change my mind.
I agree on Destiny as the weakest. I think there was some sort of fight behind the scenes causing the bad writing, to my dismay. The special edition dvds are a better option than sitting through the problematic hit-or-miss 52 episodes.

I couldn't really get into the X TV series, I enjoyed the movie OK, but the manga is by far the best way to enjoy it (even if it's on permanent hiatus).
As for Destiny...yeah, one watch through was enough for me. Stargazer on the other hand, is worth multiple watch throughs.  ;D
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 06, 2013, 07:20:16 AM
I couldn't really get into the X TV series, I enjoyed the movie OK, but the manga is by far the best way to enjoy it (even if it's on permanent hiatus).
As for Destiny...yeah, one watch through was enough for me. Stargazer on the other hand, is worth multiple watch throughs.  ;D

I was pertaining to Gundam X.
But yeah, X of Clamp is only good in the manga.
Stargazer is good.  :)
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 06, 2013, 02:14:10 PM
Wait...there's a dub for Gundam X? D: I don't think anyone could really pull off Garrod's "TIFAAAAAA" like his original VA. :X It would just feel...weird.

Also, how is Newtype, Satellite Beam Cannons and post-apocalypse scenario not a recipe for awesome? :D I think it's a shame it didn't get the full run it deserved. =\

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Also, dat asymmetry.  :o
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 07, 2013, 07:16:15 AM
Wait...there's a dub for Gundam X? D: I don't think anyone could really pull off Garrod's "TIFAAAAAA" like his original VA. :X It would just feel...weird.

Also, how is Newtype, Satellite Beam Cannons and post-apocalypse scenario not a recipe for awesome? :D I think it's a shame it didn't get the full run it deserved. =\

Perhaps, not may people like it, which is usually the case why they would stop the run, since we know for a fact that Sunrise has the money. (Other animes might not get the full run due to money problems.)
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 07, 2013, 02:16:20 PM
Perhaps, not may people like it, which is usually the case why they would stop the run, since we know for a fact that Sunrise has the money. (Other animes might not get the full run due to money problems.)

Coming from 4chan's /m/ (yeah yeah) we're actually pretty big fans of Gundam X. Some of the reasoning I've heard for it's early demise was that it just wasn't doing well in the ratings, something akin to "TOO MUCH GUNDAM, NOT ENOUGH DUO". The original Gundam was also canceled early.

So, I think it may be worth your while to check it out again, especially since you also enjoy UC and all the Amuro and Char goodness. :D
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 08, 2013, 06:46:40 AM
I'd check it out again when I am done with the novel translation, plus all the university requirements...

Is anyone here a fan of Studio Ghibli films?
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 08, 2013, 02:12:04 PM
Is anyone here not a fan of Studio Ghibli films?

Fix'd

My favorite Ghibli films are Naussicaa of the Valley of the Wind and Castle of Cagliostro.  ;D
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Neobelmont on February 08, 2013, 11:43:10 PM
I'd check it out again when I am done with the novel translation, plus all the university requirements...

Is anyone here a fan of Studio Ghibli films?

Castle in the sky all day, and howl's moving castle
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 09, 2013, 03:04:09 AM
I also liked all of the ghibli films that you mentioned.
Spirited away was also good.

The worst one for me was Tales from Earthsea. It totally changed what was in the books.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: TheouAegis on February 09, 2013, 06:08:53 PM
Well how much of that was Miyazaki's son's fault? I'm not sure how much of a role he played in that. A lot of hate for his feature film debut.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Kale on February 09, 2013, 11:42:30 PM
Edit: there is one more and that's because I had a slight crush on her  when I was little  :-[

HD Blu Ray: Cardcaptor Sakura Opening 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDBSV8DL1lU#ws)

You sir.... are awesome. Because CCS was awesome! I love her.
Title: Re: Anime vs Real Life.....
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 10, 2013, 09:41:27 AM
Well how much of that was Miyazaki's son's fault? I'm not sure how much of a role he played in that. A lot of hate for his feature film debut.

Quite a lot. Even Ursula LeGuin said something like, he used her characters but it looks like a different universe.
He intended the film to be a sort of autobiographical telling of him leaving his father's shadow.
The original proposal was to get the Wizard of Earthsea (a tale of growing up), but the son wanted to tackle The Farthest Shore (a tale dealing with death).
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Post by: Neobelmont on February 11, 2013, 02:44:35 AM
Fix'd

My favorite Ghibli films are Naussicaa of the Valley of the Wind and Castle of Cagliostro.  ;D

I barely saw Naussicaa.

One more movie I thought that was awesome and put Ghibli above disney was princess mononoke am I spelling this right IIRC there was dismemberment in this movie I remember it was part of "A month of Miyazaki" on toonami I was lucky to see Laputa in orginal japanese the only thing that pisses me off is that when I was young the channel put it on so late that I fell asleep the second time on toonami something happened annd I can't recall if I saw the ending So in a nut shell my favorite Miyazaki film I have not seen or if I did (not) remember the end can you believe it?

As for the reason well the two kids are awesome.
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Post by: TheouAegis on February 11, 2013, 06:22:52 AM
Nausicaa was shit.

THERE! I SAID IT!

Read the manga. Seriously, the anime was shit. Miyazaki knew it too. The manga was so epic that he couldn't fit all of the story he wanted to tell into the movie. Editing is a bitch. The manga though -- oh my freaking god it is GOOD. If you thought Mononoke Hime was cool because of dismemberment (decapitated Pac-Man wolf head for the win!), read the Nausicaa manga. For all the people that think Miyazaki is a fluffy kiddy grade artist/director and think Mononoke Hime was outside the norm, it's just typical fair for him. The Nausicaa manga has peopel getting shot, maimed, decapitated, heads on display as totems, people getting bitten in half. It's fucking gruesome! And the story is okkusenman times better than the anime's story. And it's sad. Very sad. It also goes on longer than the battle at the end of the movie. That's like, just past the halfway point in the manga. Seriously, do yourself a favor and buy the manga. It's pricey -- new, it might run ya $140 -- but it's that good.
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 11, 2013, 02:36:04 PM
I'm remembering Nausicaa with rose-tinted glasses (I grew up watching it, a lot) but if what you say about the manga is true, I'm definitely going to have to give it a go.

I always thought the pacing was a little...off, even as a kid, but I really enjoyed the world, fantastic creatures and sweet gas masks on everything. At least no one questions my Castle of Cogliostro choice, even though it's more a Miyazaki choice and not Ghibli (since it predates Ghibli).  ;D
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Post by: Ratty on February 11, 2013, 09:32:53 PM
Funny thing, I have a friend who's a big fan of Lupin the 3rd and he says Castle of Cogliostro is among the worst Lupin movies- in that the characterization of Lupin is far too noble. When the original joke was that he was kind of a huge asshole. Such humor might not translate well from page to screen though.

I've never seen it though, nor any Miyazaki, except for the amazing Sherlock Hound series http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=ELJ7W8YJE1z_8 (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=ELJ7W8YJE1z_8) and his involvement in that was limited. If you want to watch the episodes on youtube they've been uploaded out of order by TMS media for some reason. The proper order in comparison to the youtube uploads is shown on the wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Hound (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Hound)
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 12, 2013, 05:11:00 AM
Nausicaa was shit.

THERE! I SAID IT!

Read the manga. Seriously, the anime was shit. Miyazaki knew it too. The manga was so epic that he couldn't fit all of the story he wanted to tell into the movie. Editing is a bitch. The manga though -- oh my freaking god it is GOOD. If you thought Mononoke Hime was cool because of dismemberment (decapitated Pac-Man wolf head for the win!), read the Nausicaa manga. For all the people that think Miyazaki is a fluffy kiddy grade artist/director and think Mononoke Hime was outside the norm, it's just typical fair for him. The Nausicaa manga has peopel getting shot, maimed, decapitated, heads on display as totems, people getting bitten in half. It's fucking gruesome! And the story is okkusenman times better than the anime's story. And it's sad. Very sad. It also goes on longer than the battle at the end of the movie. That's like, just past the halfway point in the manga. Seriously, do yourself a favor and buy the manga. It's pricey -- new, it might run ya $140 -- but it's that good.

Oh no wonder I felt there was something missing in the movie. Well, as with most movies taken from books/manga, it is very hard to condense all of the stuff into a few hours.
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Post by: Laina on February 12, 2013, 06:57:24 AM

Honorable mention-
-Dominion Tank Police

PS- Is it weird that I like Dominion Tank Police more than Ghost in the Shell? :I I still need to watch the movie for the latter, but I read the manga.

Some...someone else remembers it...I'm not alone. I AM NOT ALONE.

Tank Police (English) opening (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La7Drjku-Y8#)

Dominion Tank Police: The Puma Twins Strip Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mElOqUQvchY#)
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 12, 2013, 09:50:43 AM
-Dominion Tank Police

I read the manga, and I didn't know there was an anime version!
Thanks for the videos Laina.
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Post by: Laina on February 12, 2013, 11:30:55 AM
-Dominion Tank Police

I read the manga, and I didn't know there was an anime version!
Thanks for the videos Laina.

You're totes welcome, Shiroi. Youtube has full episodes btw, I highly suggest checking them out.
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 12, 2013, 02:45:44 PM
Some...someone else remembers it...I'm not alone. I AM NOT ALONE.
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Wait, wait, wait...people don't know about Dominion Tank Police? I...I think I need to sit down for a moment. Next people are going to say they didn't know the Puma sisters were in the Ghost in the Shell manga either!  :'(

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwebspace.webring.com%2Fpeople%2Feu%2Fum_2449%2Fcross%2Fg14-4b.jpg&hash=8b39d9beffabc437588310e8cd969c71e45f03c2)
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Post by: X on February 12, 2013, 03:49:03 PM
I did, cause they are both written by Masamune Shirow. I also remember dominion Tank Police, although I've only seen two episodes so I got to make it a point to sit down and watch the whole bloody thing. What attracts me to that type of anime is the classic character stylization they used. You almost never see it being produced any more and it's a real shame.
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 12, 2013, 03:58:42 PM
Speaking of Ghost in the Shell...

Ghost in the Shell: Arise trailers! (http://kotaku.com/5983591/the-new-ghost-in-the-shell-series-gets-its-first-trailer)

I'm looking forward to it.  ;D
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Post by: TheouAegis on February 12, 2013, 04:18:48 PM
Dominion was one of the first anime I ever watched. It's so nostalgic for me, like Slayers. Makes me sad to watch it because those days of innocence are forever gone now.

I loved the first two Dominion movies. New Dominion was fun too, but not quite the same. And I'm bummed SWAT never got past episode 1, or at least never subbed past it.

I have both (as far as I know) Dominion manga. I liked Orion cuz it reminded me of Dominion mixed with Intron.
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Post by: Laina on February 12, 2013, 08:28:43 PM
Dominion was one of the first anime I ever watched. It's so nostalgic for me, like Slayers. Makes me sad to watch it because those days of innocence are forever gone now.

Sounds like we had similar childhoods. TANK POLIIIICE! FEEL THE POWER THAT WE GOT!
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Post by: X on February 12, 2013, 11:53:15 PM
So they decided to make a prequel to ghost in the Shell. Shame about the choice in anime style though as I feel they should try and keep things consistent.
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Post by: TheouAegis on February 13, 2013, 01:17:05 AM
Hm... I watched the trailer.

As soon as I saw I.G. Productions, I literally grimaced/winced. Sure enough, same pastels as Tekkonkinkreet. Buuuut... The same things I liked about TKKK and IG's segments in Batman and Matrix were present in that trailer too. IG is actually pretty good with fight scenes and vividly animated sequences. It's a bit more artsy, sure, but I do like their style. It's fluid.

But their stills and slow frames... ugh that artwork is hideous. I prefer Madhouse in that department.
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 13, 2013, 02:32:29 PM
So you weren't a fan of GitS: SAC, the GitS films or the Patlabor movies (1 & 2) styles? I think IG is a fine studio, since with the eye of Mamoru Oshii at the helm they crank out spectacular visual feasts.

Of course those are mainly feature films, with a huge budget...and um...yeah. SAC was still pretty though! Though totally agree, their animation is fluid and breathtaking. (Though I think Madhouse is just as good in this department) And I might be a little biased since I really do love how they've handled GitS to this point.

Ghost in the Shell (1995) HD TRAILER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvBVDibOrgs#ws)
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Post by: TheouAegis on February 13, 2013, 03:27:20 PM
It's not IG's fault. It's the art directors. IG wasn't always like they are now. Patlabor and GITS were overly backlit. Their foreground styles were bland and unappealing. The only thing that set them apart where the overlit backlights. Every studio needs to make a name for itself somehow, but unfortunately IG has taken the flat pastel cel shading style and I've never liked it in any of their movies. It does help you focus on the story, though, because there's not much art to look at. But I do think they make some of the best Asian backdrops over all. Ghibli is tops at making nature scenes, IG is tops at urban scenes.
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 13, 2013, 04:03:01 PM
I'm not sure I follow what you mean with the flat pastels and the older IG films?

I know for me, Sunrise's coloring has changed drastically from 1999 (Turn A Gundam) to 2002 (Gundam Seed) when they switched from hand painted cells to the digitally colored cells and I much prefer the older hand painted stuff.

Turn A Gundam
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Gundam Seed (Left HD Remaster, Right Original)
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 14, 2013, 09:43:51 AM
Hand painted cells have a sense of nostalgia and the labor of the animators painstakingly painting each cel.
As for the digital ones, it is just the mark of the modern era of good graphics programs and it makes less waste (no more cels, no more paints, etc.)

I suppose some studios love experimenting with all different forms of art using the digital format (it is easier to do it digitally). And some people might like it, some might not.
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Post by: Ratty on February 14, 2013, 12:41:04 PM
it makes less waste (no more cels, no more paints, etc.)

The downside to that is there's nothing to buy and hang on my wall. Thousands of cels in an episode, sell the hundreds of good ones for $10 - $20 a pop to nerds, someone is losing a nice little side racket now that everything's gone digital. Or I guess they could wind up like a lot of the cels to classic Disney movies, junk in the animator's garages for their kids to glide on like a slip'n slide.
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 14, 2013, 02:36:08 PM
Not to mention really hot cells sell for bookoo bucks in collector's circles.  ;)

And though I pine for the days of hand coloring, I also understand that digital coloring can really help mesh CG and traditional animation together. And CG does look nice in anime for doing complex machinery to keep a consistent look. Macross Zero comes to mind in that regard...
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 15, 2013, 02:07:50 PM
Not to mention really hot cells sell for bookoo bucks in collector's circles.  ;)

And though I pine for the days of hand coloring, I also understand that digital coloring can really help mesh CG and traditional animation together. And CG does look nice in anime for doing complex machinery to keep a consistent look. Macross Zero comes to mind in that regard...

Since there is currently the scarcity of cels, prices would go even higher.  ;D

CG is great for 3d effects not only in mecha but also for other things they might need it for. But yeah, usually for mecha, vehicles, machines, etc. I also think with cg, it makes it easier for toy manufacturers to accurately depict the characters in plastic form.
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 02, 2013, 10:44:44 AM
There is one cool anime called Psycho-Pass. The sequel is coming soon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho-Pass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho-Pass)
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Post by: Lelygax on April 02, 2013, 08:25:02 PM
Beato's 2nd "good morning" clip [ENG TRANSLATED] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPWPygVV0uk#)

I didnt wanted to create a topic only to show that and it seems to be the best place for it. Some people will understand it without explanation xD