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Title: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: TheouAegis on February 01, 2013, 09:14:43 PM
Not only was Sypha's character icon (in the status bar) feminine, so was her wounded SFX. Trevor says, "oop!" Grant says, "Oof." Alucard says, "Ungh." But Sypha has a much, much higher voice and says, "Ow!" No, I'm not making this up. I just spent the last 3 hours playing CV3 with no music -- just sound effects. Konami never tried to hide anything from anyone -- Sypha was a girl all along. It was just a really shitty localization and most of you were gender-confused little children. Sorry to break it to ya.
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: Zuljaras on February 01, 2013, 11:56:51 PM
Also when you try to take her with you the script reads to take "him" with you :D
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: TheouAegis on February 02, 2013, 01:56:46 AM
That wasn't so much a localization issue as much as a flaw in the code. That dialogue was the same for all three partners and would have taken much more modding of the original programming to allow Sypha to actually be referred to as "her" in that dialogue.

Also the cyclops very clearly has a preference for women, by the looks of the statues. Why Sypha was the one that got cured is beyond me. Would have been better if a statue turned into a delicious hooker.
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: Laina on February 02, 2013, 03:09:59 AM
It looked like the other 2 were broke as shit & therefore technically dead I figured. *shrugs*

Let's use our imaginations & say Sypha was kind of a "Pretty Woman" type of story. A young, rebellious hooker who happens to be gifted in the dark arts wanders into the Cyclops' den thinking she'll get enough to get by for a few days ('cuz magical creatures is extra) & BAM! Turns out the Cyclops' fetish is stone ladies. Then Richard Gere, I mean Trevor happens by, saves her from the monster & her former life. Whilst fighting against the unimaginable horrors of the demon castle alongside each other they begin to rub off on one another & Sypha reveals her heart of gold to the valiant, straight laced Trevor. Grant gets a little fresh (he's the Jason Alexander of our story) after a misunderstanding between Trevor & Sypha, but gets put in his place by Trevor. After saving existence as we know it, they decide they're sweet on each other & Sypha's only gonna use her "sexy arts" on Trevor from now on. The end.
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 02, 2013, 04:13:34 AM
It looked like the other 2 were broke as shit & therefore technically dead I figured. *shrugs*

Let's use our imaginations & say Sypha was kind of a "Pretty Woman" type of story. A young, rebellious hooker who happens to be gifted in the dark arts wanders into the Cyclops' den thinking she'll get enough to get by for a few days ('cuz magical creatures is extra) & BAM! Turns out the Cyclops' fetish is stone ladies. Then Richard Gere, I mean Trevor happens by, saves her from the monster & her former life. Whilst fighting against the unimaginable horrors of the demon castle alongside each other they begin to rub off on each other & Sypha reveals her heart of gold to the valiant, straight laced Trevor. Grant gets a little fresh (he's the Jason Alexander of our story) after a misunderstanding between Trevor & Sypha, but gets put in his place by Trevor. After saving existence as we know it, they decide they're sweet on each other & Sypha's only gonna use her "sexy arts" on Trevor from now on. The end.

That is a story worth telling!
Richard Gere as Trevor, not bad. Hehehe.
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: X on February 02, 2013, 10:52:29 AM
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Let's use our imaginations & say Sypha was kind of a "Pretty Woman" type of story. A young, rebellious hooker who happens to be gifted in the dark arts wanders into the Cyclops' den thinking she'll get enough to get by for a few days ('cuz magical creatures is extra) & BAM! Turns out the Cyclops' fetish is stone ladies. Then Richard Gere, I mean Trevor happens by, saves her from the monster & her former life. Whilst fighting against the unimaginable horrors of the demon castle alongside each other they begin to rub off on each other & Sypha reveals her heart of gold to the valiant, straight laced Trevor. Grant gets a little fresh (he's the Jason Alexander of our story) after a misunderstanding between Trevor & Sypha, but gets put in his place by Trevor. After saving existence as we know it, they decide they're sweet on each other & Sypha's only gonna use her "sexy arts" on Trevor from now on. The end.

The only thing bothering me about this story is Grant trying to put the moves on Sypha. It never happened in CV III and CV Judgement's take on that story was a very bad and sour joke. No offense to you Laina but love triangles (especially where there never was any) are the bane of poor story-telling and is a terrible Hollywood gimmick. Besides Grant has only one thing on his mind and it's not women. It's revenge.
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: TheouAegis on February 02, 2013, 12:35:25 PM
Well, revenge and ruling Wallachia because he is after all the heir apparent.
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: Laina on February 02, 2013, 01:05:33 PM
The only thing bothering me about this story is Grant trying to put the moves on Sypha. It never happened in CV III and CV Judgement's take on that story was a very bad and sour joke. No offense to you Laina but love triangles (especially where there never was any) are the bane of poor story-telling and is a terrible Hollywood gimmick. Besides Grant has only one thing on his mind and it's not women. It's revenge.

I hate love triangles too & was just looking for something to link the Jason Alexander character in. Wrote that whole paragraph in under 5 minutes. It was all an effort at trying to please TheouAegis with hookers. Were you delighted with my tale weaving?

Besides, X, how could I take offense at a critique of a thrown together off the top of my head joke story? lol 'Twas all for teh lulz, dear fellows. Though if it does bother anyone, we could just say Grant's actions were based on the curse placed upon him having some residual effects & he temporarily reverted back to that mentality, attacking Sypha & catching her off guard. Or whatevs, you guys build on it from here if you like it. Kinda like one of those writing exercises they had you do in grade school where one kid writes a paragraph of a story, passes it to the kid behind them so they can write the next paragraph, then they pass it on, so on & so forth.
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: X on February 03, 2013, 08:36:38 PM
Oh, okay. Never did an active writing course in school. kinda got self-taught through my latter years.

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Were you delighted with my tale weaving?

The love-triangle threw me off reading the rest.  :-\
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: Laina on February 03, 2013, 09:29:05 PM
The love-triangle threw me off reading the rest.  :-\

lol I could tell. I was asking Theou if he liked the hooker with a heart of gold angle.
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: Reinhart77 on February 05, 2013, 08:15:04 PM
In a game like Judgment, you simply gotta have something to fight for.  I'm fine with one invented love triangle to fuel some of the battles. 
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: X on February 06, 2013, 10:21:42 AM
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In a game like Judgment, you simply gotta have something to fight for.  I'm fine with one invented love triangle to fuel some of the battles. 

Except that it wasn't even necessary. Grant already had something to fight for. The people he knew (Family and friends) whom were butchered without remorse and the fact that Dracula cursed him and adding more humiliation to an already broken man, had Grant be one of his guardians and stuffed him atop the Clocktower. A woman would be the furthest thing from his mind. Trevor on the other hand was merely fulfilling his destiny by hunting down the dreaded king of vampires as his bloodline dictated. His emotions weren't raging with revenge as Grant's were. Therefore he and Sypha (whom had suffered a terrible life previously) would naturally drift towards one-another. The only Castlevania story that has had a love triangle since it's conception was Harmony of Dissonance. Liddy was the focus and the other two were Juste and Maxim. Fortunately this type of story was way more tolerable then anything I've seen come out of romance books or Hollywood to date. As for CVIII there was no love triangle and there doesn't ever need to be one in order to make it a great story, as it was already a great story.
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: Laina on February 07, 2013, 12:53:56 AM
Except that it wasn't even necessary. Grant already had something to fight for. The people he knew (Family and friends) whom were butchered without remorse and the fact that Dracula cursed him and adding more humiliation to an already broken man, had Grant be one of his guardians and stuffed him atop the Clocktower. A woman would be the furthest thing from his mind. Trevor on the other hand was merely fulfilling his destiny by hunting down the dreaded king of vampires as his bloodline dictated. His emotions weren't raging with revenge as Grant's were. Therefore he and Sypha (whom had suffered a terrible life previously) would naturally drift towards one-another. The only Castlevania story that has had a love triangle since it's conception was Harmony of Dissonance. Liddy was the focus and the other two were Juste and Maxim. Fortunately this type of story was way more tolerable then anything I've seen come out of romance books or Hollywood to date. As for CVIII there was no love triangle and there doesn't ever need to be one in order to make it a great story, as it was already a great story.

Agreed, though I honestly didn't even care for the one HoD. I will, however, admit that it was slightly more tastefully done than most of that sort of mess I'd seen before.
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: Lelygax on February 18, 2013, 08:24:57 AM
That wasn't so much a localization issue as much as a flaw in the code. That dialogue was the same for all three partners and would have taken much more modding of the original programming to allow Sypha to actually be referred to as "her" in that dialogue.

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Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: TheouAegis on February 18, 2013, 08:37:12 AM
I fap to new-halfs.

There were ero-manga about that. Chun-Li had a ****, like Sakura. I think Lady Gaga-- I mean, Cammy had one too in that manga.
Title: Re: Hate to flog a dead horse, but
Post by: Lelygax on February 18, 2013, 08:52:56 AM
Futanari addict? lol