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Title: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: Nagumo on February 04, 2013, 07:03:13 AM
This is directed at those people who complained about how Kojima gave Simon red hair in her redesign of him. I can't believe I didn't those this before but if you take a look at the Japanese manual for the original NES game you can see Simon has red hair as well. He has brown hair on the cover art for the game but I consider the manual artwork to be closer to the creator's intentions. So Kojima's design is actually very faithful in that regard.  :)   
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: Akuma on February 04, 2013, 07:29:06 AM
I always thought Simon's hair was more Auburn then brown to be honest.

And I like the red hair.
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Post by: crisis on February 04, 2013, 07:33:28 AM
In Haunted Castle Simon's hair is blue o.o;
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Post by: son_the_vampire on February 04, 2013, 08:04:07 AM
In Haunted Castle Simon's hair is blue o.o;
words stolen right from my mouth!
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: PyramidHead on February 04, 2013, 08:29:33 AM
In game his hair's color is brown (Castlevania 1 Nes). In Vampire killer his hair is black. In Simon's Quest it's also black. In "Chronicles PS1" it's purple! May be he just likes to dye his hair in different colors. :)
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Post by: Lashen on February 04, 2013, 09:55:33 AM
Him and Eric, man...
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: Nagumo on February 04, 2013, 10:03:22 AM
For simplicities sake, I tend to ignore the hair color used in sprites. I think artwork takes precedence over that anyway, since what looks good in artwork does not always look good sprite-wise. However, that still leaves us with Simon having  auburn/brown, blond and red hair. And that's just counting CV1, 2 and Chronicles.       
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Post by: Neobelmont on February 04, 2013, 03:16:24 PM
I just like Simon done nothing else to say.  8) Short and simple
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Post by: Koutei on February 04, 2013, 06:11:02 PM
I am one vote to brown.

http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/2/manual-fammini.htm (http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/2/manual-fammini.htm)
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: PHBelmont on February 04, 2013, 08:16:43 PM
The ones I like are the Simons from SCIV and CvChronicles. :P
Other is the Simon from Haunted Castle. I think is because i love how difficult was that CV (to me).

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liyjl6RIFA1qagnrm.png)

But... then i met the Simon from Castlevania PoR. :o

(http://images.wikia.com/castlevania/images/b/bf/Greatest_Five_Simon_Belmont.JPG)

... Now i'm really confused for what is my favorite hair for him...
yellow... brown... red... blue??

Anyways... He always gonna be the most powerful Belmont in my opinion. :P
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: KaZudra on February 04, 2013, 08:39:12 PM
Personally, I vote Red, Bizarro Simon (MoF) Is Like Kojima's Design but Manly
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: K.G. Morder on February 04, 2013, 10:55:23 PM
I like red. Makes him more unique.

MS seems to agree.
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Post by: Munchy on February 04, 2013, 11:18:20 PM
I haven't looked at my Famicom Classics version of the first game in a while but this does sound familiar.

Of course it's not like the characters across the games don't already have bazillions of different hairstyles already.
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on February 05, 2013, 01:26:39 AM
I personally want his hair color as red.
However, Simon is Simon so hair color doesn't matter much.
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Post by: Inccubus on February 05, 2013, 07:59:14 AM
I would have preferred orange, like a real ginger, not hair-dye red.
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 05, 2013, 08:38:40 AM
I would have preferred orange, like a real ginger, not hair-dye red.
But if that were the case then Simon's confrontation with Dracula would be like...

Simon: Die monster, you don't belong in this world!

<Yadda yadda, you know the drill>

Simon: Your words are as empty as your soul! Mankind ill needs a savior such as you!

Dracula: *holds up mirror* And what of you, ginger? Dare you to challenge me, when you, yourself, have no soul? But enough talk, have at you!

Simon is emotionally scared by this revelation and is easily defeated by Dracula. The world remains in darkness for all eternity.

-end scene-

:P I kid, I kid, though seriously, I think fiery red haired Simon is awesome, even if CVIV is my favorite. Definitely excited to see how Simon plays out in MoF with his red hair and beard goodness.  ;D
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: X on February 05, 2013, 10:40:20 AM
Kojima's haircolor choice for Simon is way too sharp on the red. Like Inccubus had said; Hair-dye red. Not good really. It just doesn't seem to fit his character (and his prettyboy looks don't help either). That and his chronicles' sprite's hair color isn't even red. It's like a candy red going on a faded dark pink...or something.
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Post by: son_the_vampire on February 05, 2013, 12:43:38 PM
i figured it out!!!! Don't you see?... his hair turned  red due to the amount of vampire blood spilled on it... it progressively gets darker... duh! :rollseyes:
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Post by: Laina on February 06, 2013, 01:39:16 AM
I actually much prefer that slick candy apple red on Simon. Like a gaudy sports car...that slays demons for a living. I'm sure a Ferrari could do that. Somebody get Michael Bay on the phone because all this formula needs is 'SPLOSIONS!
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 06, 2013, 09:29:37 AM
I actually much prefer that slick candy apple red on Simon. Like a gaudy sports car...that slays demons for a living. I'm sure a Ferrari could do that. Somebody get Michael Bay on the phone because all this formula needs is 'SPLOSIONS!

I didn't get Michael Bay...but I did use GIMP to whip something up for ya. :P

(http://i48.tinypic.com/25ewqiv.png)

...don't ask... >_<
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Post by: Mooning Freddy on February 06, 2013, 11:49:31 AM
Since Simon is a legendary chrctr in CV, in every game he looks different. It's okay, though. He's like a historical figure that nobody really knows how exactly it looked like.
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: Lashen on February 06, 2013, 09:20:21 PM
WHAT
HAVE
YOU
DONE
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: Successor The Cruel on February 06, 2013, 11:16:30 PM
I actually much prefer that slick candy apple red on Simon. Like a gaudy sports car...that slays demons for a living. I'm sure a Ferrari could do that. Somebody get Michael Bay on the phone because all this formula needs is 'SPLOSIONS!

Actually, yeah. It's shocking and vibrant in a good way. I don't really care that it isn't "realistic" or "gritty" or whatever. I don't really look for conservative realism in Castlevania games. More like vampire slaying stuff that takes historical cues but with a sensational, often Japanese entertainment-infuenced flair to it.
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: Laina on February 07, 2013, 12:48:02 AM
I didn't get Michael Bay...but I did use GIMP to whip something up for ya. :P

(http://i48.tinypic.com/25ewqiv.png)

...don't ask... >_<

I have no need to ask. I know true art when I see it...bravo, sir. Bravo.
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 07, 2013, 08:51:29 AM
WHAT
HAVE
YOU
DONE

Made Laina's wish come true?  ;D

I have no need to ask. I know true art when I see it...bravo, sir. Bravo.

Thank you! I was hoping to find a similar shot with a 458 Italia with sweeping hills in the background (so I can shoop in the Castle) but the best I could really find was this Enzo from Forza. :(

Also, I'd totally play this. :D
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: Ahasverus on February 07, 2013, 07:03:20 PM
I didn't get Michael Bay...but I did use GIMP to whip something up for ya. :P

(http://i48.tinypic.com/25ewqiv.png)

...don't ask... >_<

ZOMG GAME OF THE FOREVER
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: Thomas Belmont on February 08, 2013, 05:09:12 PM
Meh. Simon's hair will always be either brown or blonde to me. Depends on which mood I'm in.
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: Tuxedo Mark on February 09, 2013, 08:44:31 PM
I would have preferred orange, like a real ginger, not hair-dye red.

So no one actually has naturally red hair?
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: X on February 09, 2013, 11:42:59 PM
Quote
So no one actually has naturally red hair?

Sure they do. Just not the way Kojima does it as it's more along the anime spectrum then it is in the normal spectrum. Besides, the only person who can pull off such red hair and get away with it is not a man, but a woman; Red Sonja.
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: Mooning Freddy on February 11, 2013, 04:47:46 AM
Castlevania FUCK YEAH 


I fucking love you man  :'(
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Post by: Attila on February 11, 2013, 05:44:01 AM
prefer classic nes Simon, brown hair
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on February 11, 2013, 09:29:51 AM
Castlevania FUCK YEAH 


I fucking love you man  :'(

Love you too.  ;)
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: Lelygax on February 19, 2013, 02:35:29 AM
I'm Simon! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KleuUhtTiCE#)
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Post by: TheouAegis on February 23, 2013, 01:46:46 PM
Gay Simon wasn't gay enough.
Title: Re: Simon was always a redhead.
Post by: Gunners Heaven on March 03, 2013, 02:09:17 AM
I love Kojima's art work, but the red hair for Simon in Chronicles was just weird. The Japanese though have an odd thing of attributing certain personalities to someone's hair, also the blood type. So it could be assumed that the red hair was meant to clue us in on his personality. Also, I don't think it's blue in Haunted Castle but black. It looks bluish because they used that as a light effect. Much how Superman's hair in a lot of the older comics seems to have blue highlights. It's just meant to give shadow and light sourcing to someone with dark hair.