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Title: Confusion
Post by: CVfan13 on January 05, 2008, 03:08:32 PM
Ok, so my B-day is next weekend and I'm not getting any presents this year, just money to buy my own presents basically. So, I'm wondering what I should buy. I'm definetely getting the DMC trilogy thing at Gamestop, but what should I get that's Castlevania-related? Here are the games I still don't own:

CV: A
CV: AII
SCV4 (I own a Wii so I could just go VC)
CV: Dracula X (Don't own a snes)
CV: Bloodlines (don't own a sega genesis either)
CV: Legends
CV: 64
CV: LoD (Definetely considering this one)

So what should I do? I need opinions.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: PFG9000 on January 05, 2008, 04:01:51 PM
Castlevania 4, without a doubt.  Belmont's Revenge (CV Adventure II) is fantastic too, and the two N64 CVs are also worth looking into.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Gecko on January 05, 2008, 04:13:23 PM
I would go with LoD, but that's because it's one of my favorite games of all time. Lots of great stuff in there.

CV4 and Belmont's Revenge are definately worth looking into as well.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Profbeanburrito on January 05, 2008, 04:27:45 PM
CV4 is one of the best to play and it's easy to find same goes for Adventure, so you could get both instead of one more expensive game. 64 is also really good.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: crisis on January 05, 2008, 04:41:07 PM
Castlevania 4, without a doubt.  Belmont's Revenge (CV Adventure II) is fantastic too, and the two N64 CVs are also worth looking into.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Mr Sven on January 05, 2008, 05:20:00 PM
CV4 is the CV that got me into the series.

I'd go for that first it's got some very good remixes done in a gothic style and it has a very moody atmosphere.

Drac X I would only go for after finishing 4. It's harder ( not that it's a bad thing )and I personally don't like the art style, Richter can only whip forward and who needs item crashes anyway? Simon will always kick his arse.

Bloodlines is shorter, but imo more entertaining than drac X. its a little bit between the two  regarding difficulty btu worth the buy.

Cant give any info on the GB ones. and i've only played through CV64 not LoD but I assume they are similar. only ruined by shitty camera angles as the gameplay itsself is actually decent.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: The Last Belmont on January 05, 2008, 05:47:25 PM
Ok, so my B-day is next weekend and I'm not getting any presents this year, just money to buy my own presents basically. So, I'm wondering what I should buy. I'm definetely getting the DMC trilogy thing at Gamestop, but what should I get that's Castlevania-related? Here are the games I still don't own:

CV: A
CV: AII
SCV4 (I own a Wii so I could just go VC)
CV: Dracula X (Don't own a snes)
CV: Bloodlines (don't own a sega genesis either)
CV: Legends
CV: 64
CV: LoD (Definetely considering this one)

So what should I do? I need opinions.

If you have Rondo don't bother with the snes X, it's very inferior to the PCE-engine PSP port. Unless you see it reasonably priced on the VC or want to go the emulator route I wouldn't bother with it as to just get a used cart usually costs 50 bones or more and the game isn't even that good just rare cuz they didn't make that many. You should def. get CV adventure 2 and legends those are very fun and have the nes style gameplay albeit they are quite a bit easier than the nes ones. Bloodlines is awesome too and one my personal favs. If you need a genesis you should be able to get one cheap off of ebay. SCIV is a must too, though why they call it "super" instead of just castlevania IV or "super castlevania" cuz that's really what it is is beyond me.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Profbeanburrito on January 05, 2008, 07:13:16 PM
In Reply To #7

It's probably called Super Castlevania IV because a whole lot of things were "Super" on the "Super Nintendo Entertainment System".....that and it's a super awesome remake of Castlevania
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Long John Silver on January 05, 2008, 07:46:34 PM
If they were to name it like the japanese did, it'd be cv1 too. They wanted to make it different to sell it better, and they also came up with the idea of changing it into simon's 3rd adventure by changing the prologue into something completely different.

People were more likely going to buy it if it's the continuation of Simon's saga rather than the same game with prettier graphics. :P
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: The Last Belmont on January 05, 2008, 07:48:45 PM
In Reply To #7

It's probably called Super Castlevania IV because a whole lot of things were "Super" on the "Super Nintendo Entertainment System".....that and it's a super awesome remake of Castlevania

I know but there's just too many words there, they could've called super metroid "super metroid 3" but using the "super" title insinuates it's a remake of the first one which is essentially what it and SCIV are. "Super Castlevania" I think sounds cooler and it lets the buyer know right away that they're buying the first castlevania redone for the SNES. :) 
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Mr Sven on January 05, 2008, 07:51:12 PM
If you have Rondo don't bother with the snes X, it's very inferior to the PCE-engine PSP port

It is also not the same game. most levels are completely different including the final boss battle.

the only reason this game gets panned as badly as it does is because it was marketed as a port of rondo, when infact if you take the time to look at it it's actually a fairly competent action side scroller.

admittedly rondo is a better game but because of its own merits not because the snes version is a poor watered down version

it's like saying play x68000 CV over the NES original because everything looks bigger and better
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: The Last Belmont on January 05, 2008, 07:57:26 PM
They wanted to make it different to sell it better, and they also came up with the idea of changing it into simon's 3rd adventure by changing the prologue into something completely different.



I don't remember the English prologue setting it after Simon's Quest, I thought it still set it at the same time as the nes one. Granted I haven't played the English one in awhile cuz I like the unaltered original better, the green blood looks horrible.

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People were more likely going to buy it if it's the continuation of Simon's saga rather than the same game with prettier graphics. :P

I see what you're saying but a lot of super nes games did that, they'd just remake/update the graphics to a game and call it super "X". I think the raw power of the super nes sold games just like new elements, innovative ideas and sequels to classic nes games did. People wanted to play updated versions of their classic nes games and were willing to pay big bucks to do so, like with Mario Collection/All-Stars on the SNES.

It is also not the same game. most levels are completely different including the final boss battle.



I know bro, I was telling him to skip over it primarily because of the price, but there is fun there, just not nearly as much as with Rondo and the frustration level on the last fight ranks up there. :)
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: CVfan13 on January 05, 2008, 08:01:42 PM
Thanks guys. I've got a good idea about what to do now. Guess I'll immediatley go for SCV4 on the VC then hit eBay for LoD and maybe even a Genesis if I still have enough money left after everything else I have planned. I'll get the GB games eventually... maybe. Still, I hope Drac X is eventually released on VC, cause without it, my collection will feel incomplete, which will make me sad.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Mr Sven on January 05, 2008, 08:17:08 PM
Alas, all our collections will seem incomplete until we each get that haunted castle arcade cabinet....
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Long John Silver on January 05, 2008, 09:54:19 PM
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I don't remember the English prologue setting it after Simon's Quest, I thought it still set it at the same time as the nes one.

I was speaking of the part that says "Once again Simon Belmont is called upon to destroy Dracula"

Once again means he already did it at least once. :P
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: PFG9000 on January 05, 2008, 10:30:58 PM
I was speaking of the part that says "Once again Simon Belmont is called upon to destroy Dracula"

Once again means he already did it at least once. :P

That, or he just ignored the calling the first few times.  I can see it now:  Simon sitting in his easy chair, tipping back a beer while he watches TV.  He hears a voice from the sky and replies, "Not now!  It can wait til Gray's Anatomy is over!"

This could make an amusing spoof.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: The Last Belmont on January 05, 2008, 11:14:46 PM
I was speaking of the part that says "Once again Simon Belmont is called upon to destroy Dracula"

Once again means he already did it at least once. :P

ah okay, yeah it's been awhile since I played the American version.  :)
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: CVfan13 on January 06, 2008, 05:40:36 AM
In Reply To #17

...and you've said before that you aren't Japanese?
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Long John Silver on January 06, 2008, 07:17:01 AM
You don't have to be japanese to enjoy an almost text-less version of a platform game. :P

The only part in cv4j that's japanese is the prologue. The rest is in english. But since there's next to no text there it doesn't matter.

And the japanese version of cv4 isn't censored at all unlike the usa one.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Dark Nemesis on January 06, 2008, 07:49:41 AM
For me you should buy:

Super Castlevania 4
Castlevania Adventures II
Castlevania Legacy of Darkness

Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Juno106 on January 06, 2008, 08:26:53 AM
CV4 is the CV that got me into the series.

That what the one that killed it for me   ;)
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: CVfan13 on January 06, 2008, 09:52:07 AM
You don't have to be japanese to enjoy an almost text-less version of a platform game. :P

The only part in cv4j that's japanese is the prologue. The rest is in english. But since there's next to no text there it doesn't matter.

And the japanese version of cv4 isn't censored at all unlike the usa one.

WEll then, how did he get the jp game? And why is he playing it over the AMERICAN version? idk, just not like me I guess. And what do you mean when you say that the English version was censored? I didn't know there was anything to censor!
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: PFG9000 on January 06, 2008, 10:04:25 AM
In Reply To #22

You can download the Japanese rom just as easily as the European and American roms.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: The Clark on January 06, 2008, 10:20:55 AM
Blood was also changed to green slime.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Gunners Heaven on January 06, 2008, 11:56:52 AM
In Reply To #22

http://castlevania.classicgaming.gamespy.com/Games/scv4foreign.html
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: CVfan13 on January 06, 2008, 01:13:26 PM
In Reply To #24

Well that sucks. Blood. Is. Awesome.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: Profbeanburrito on January 06, 2008, 02:07:24 PM
yeah, blood is a pretty good time. And it does make sense. Doesn't bother me much though
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: CVfan13 on January 06, 2008, 05:23:56 PM
In Reply To #27

Doesn't bother me at all. I like blood, it's calming...
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: SacredSorrow on January 06, 2008, 10:34:10 PM
I'd buy the ones that you can't emulate.
Unless you can score some on ebay for reasonable prices, especially DracX for snes. I remember wanting it, just to have it and I played it and I said "damn, this is hard and it's not even fun." I emulated the game and didn't even play it through. Theres so much unjustice going on that it isn't even fair.

I will say that the PSP Dracula Chronicles game has pissed me off so bad that I almost went angryNintendoNerd on my psp.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: JR on January 07, 2008, 01:24:31 AM
Of those games, Super Castlevania IV and Bloodlines should be your top priorities, IMO.
Title: Re: Confusion
Post by: CVfan13 on January 07, 2008, 12:20:21 PM
In Reply To #29

I'm pretty sure I could emulate all of them, I just don't want too, rather do it legally, plus I don't really own them that way. And why did DXC piss you off???