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Title: I'M TWEAKING! (for a good RPG)
Post by: Laina on February 25, 2013, 02:52:25 PM
Soooooo, any of you kooky kids willing to throw out some suggestions for rad to the effing max RPG's? I've been jonesing for a great one lately & I've pretty much burnt myself out on my private collection. Any era, any system, I'm not particular on that. Now, I will say I'm more partial to good old fashioned turn based style (ala Super Mario RPG, FF III-X-2, Suikoden, etc.), though I'm open to experimenting with strategy & maybe even a little action. I just want an engaging story that will take me on an emotional roller coaster ride & make me feel as fulfilled as I imagine normal people feel at the birth of their children, or on their wedding days or...whatever the devil it is they're doing in order to feel whole these days.
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Post by: Gecko on February 25, 2013, 03:04:41 PM
Have you played Chrono Trigger?
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Post by: crisis on February 25, 2013, 03:18:34 PM
Xenogears perhaps

I dunno about the other Xenosaga games, I've heard they're supposed to be prequels since they have some of the same staff making them but they also "do their own thing," so i dunno
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Post by: Lelygax on February 25, 2013, 03:19:27 PM
Parasite Eve, its a wonderful game.
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Post by: Lashen on February 25, 2013, 03:40:38 PM
Weddings? Children?

SaGa Frontier 2 (PlayStation)

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.grospixels.com%2Fsite%2Fimages%2Fsquare%2Fsaga-frontier2.jpg&hash=08bd87ab0863c326e070fc0fcbc9df9896f5a9cf)

(Yes, this is a screenshot.)
Title: Re: I'M TWEAKING! (for a good RPG)
Post by: Mooning Freddy on February 25, 2013, 04:16:50 PM
Quote from: Laina on February 25, 2013, 02:52:25 PM
I just want an engaging story that will take me on an emotional roller coaster ride & make me feel as fulfilled as I imagine normal people feel at the birth of their children, or on their wedding days or...whatever the devil it is they're doing in order to feel whole these days.

Hmmm. That's an exaggeration. At any rate, my probably all time favorite RPG is Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis. It's a TRPG, yes, but the storyline is incredibly mature for a game of the kind, and involves politics, war, romance and eventually even religion. As the protagonist you are given many choices throughout the game, which lead you to various endings. Another thing I like about the game is the variety of classes in it and a reward system in which you can boost your skills by completing certain achievements with a character.   
Title: Re: I'M TWEAKING! (for a good RPG)
Post by: Laina on February 25, 2013, 04:31:16 PM
Quote from: Gecko on February 25, 2013, 03:04:41 PM
Have you played Chrono Trigger?

Indeed I have. Still playing through it at the moment, but I'm creeping ever so closer to the climax. Great game.

Quote from: crisis on February 25, 2013, 03:18:34 PM
Xenogears perhaps

Played it, beat it, loved every glorious second of it.

Quote from: Lelygax on February 25, 2013, 03:19:27 PM
Parasite Eve, its a wonderful game.

Played it when I was 14, liked it pretty okay, but just never went back to it. I suppose I need to fix that though.

Quote from: Lashen on February 25, 2013, 03:40:38 PM
Weddings? Children?

SaGa Frontier 2 (Playstation 2)

LOVED the first Saga Frontier, been meaning to pick up the second one for quite some time. Thanks for reminding me, Lashen.

Quote from: Mooning Freddy on February 25, 2013, 04:16:50 PM
Hmmm. That's an exaggeration. At any rate, my probably all time favorite RPG is Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis. It's a TRPG, yes, but the storyline is incredibly mature for a game of the kind, and involves politics, war, romance and eventually even religion. As the protagonist you are given many choices throughout the game, which lead you to various endings. Another thing I like about the game is the variety of classes in it and a reward system in which you can boost your skills by completing certain achievements with a character.   

Hyperbole = teh lawlz in some circles. But I digress-another series I've had my eye on for a while. Adding it to the list, you magnificent ass flashing bastard.

All good suggestions, people. Keep 'em coming!
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Post by: Lashen on February 25, 2013, 04:44:03 PM
I'm a very adamant SaGa fan in general, but I will warn you that SaGa Frontier 2 is nothing like its predecessor—similar battle system, but much more like the Romancing SaGa titles in "theme."
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Post by: Laina on February 25, 2013, 05:18:57 PM
I am a-okay with that actually. Scouring ebay for it right now.
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Post by: X on February 25, 2013, 05:25:22 PM
What about the original Final Fantasy games (Excluding 7 and up of course).
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Post by: Laina on February 25, 2013, 05:36:25 PM
Played them all, enjoyed most of them. I kinda fell out of love with Square after FF XI came on the scene.

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Post by: son_the_vampire on February 25, 2013, 05:53:43 PM
Legend Of Dragoon!!!!!! i loved it sooo and i still have my original file on my Ps1 memory card. Overall great turn-base rpg
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Post by: Laina on February 25, 2013, 06:15:55 PM
Quote from: son_the_vampire on February 25, 2013, 05:53:43 PM
Legend Of Dragoon!!!!!! i loved it sooo and i still have my original file on my Ps1 memory card. Overall great turn-base rpg

I know that one well, my good sir. Awesome, awesome game.
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Post by: Aridale on February 25, 2013, 06:59:32 PM
that new one on ps3 that looks like an anime movie. Its spose to be amazing. I wanna pick it up mself but I know if I do I wont play it and itll just sit there.
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Post by: Lelygax on February 25, 2013, 08:06:24 PM
Pretty much that, it seems that Square thinks "Since I have the best CGs for years, CG is what I must do", that is tragic.
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Post by: Bloodreign on February 25, 2013, 08:18:10 PM
Madou Monogatari, a dungeon crawler RPG starring the cast of Puyo Puyo. Comical in some ways, but only 1 or 2 of the titles have been translated. The one on Saturn is pure RPG.
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Post by: Phoenix7786 on February 25, 2013, 09:31:20 PM
Have you played Mother 3? It's unreleased in the U.S. and can only be played through a patched (translated) rom. Also Mother (also known colloquially as Earthbound 0) and Mother 2 (known as Earthbound on the SNES). Mother 3 is by far the best, and there are only very very vague references (more like inside winks) to the other 2 games. But Mother 3 was such a moving game by brother was actually crying.
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Post by: ScionOfBalance on February 25, 2013, 10:04:00 PM
Have you given Hyperdimension Neptunia a try yet?It`s a pretty good rpg if you don't mind panty shots.The game's story might not be what you're looking for thought.
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Post by: Ratty on February 25, 2013, 10:15:33 PM
Phantasy Star. The story is pretty basic (it's an 8bit RPG) but fun setting and unique-for-consoles (especially at the time) first person dungeons. I've heard 2 and 4 are great as well but haven't played them.
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Post by: Phoenix7786 on February 25, 2013, 10:17:30 PM
From what I recall, PS1 is the only first-person crawler; the others are overhead/side-scrollers.
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Post by: Ratty on February 25, 2013, 10:39:45 PM
Quote from: Phoenix7786 on February 25, 2013, 10:17:30 PM
From what I recall, PS1 is the only first-person crawler; the others are overhead/side-scrollers.

Yep. And it's only the dungeons in PS1 that are first person.
Title: Re: I'M TWEAKING! (for a good RPG)
Post by: Lashen on February 25, 2013, 10:51:47 PM
Phantasy Star 1 and 2 are both gems in their own right.

I love the former game to pieces.
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Post by: TheouAegis on February 26, 2013, 02:22:55 AM
Fire Emblem. It's role playing. I kinda wanted to make my girl avie make a move on Stahl in the newest one.

The Ogre series is a whole freaking series.. that was cut short. :(

Front Mission is an awesome series. You can get an English patch for them if you have a good emulator or SwapMagic or modded PS2 (the earlier ones can be handled on an emulator just fine). If you play 1st, should play the DS or PS versions since they include the expansions. Very lengthy series, too: Front Mission 1st, Front Mission 2, Front Mission 3, Front Mission 4 (released in English), Front Mission 5 (good translation patch available if you have the capability), and Front Mission Alternative. The other three or so games in the series don't count, just spinoffs.

The core Shining series: Shining Force, Shining Force II, Shining Force III Scenario 1, Shining Force III Scenario 2, Shining Force III Scenario 3, Shining in the Darkness, Shining the Holy Ark (you can ignore Shining Wisdom and anything from Shining Soul onward). All-time fave RPGs.

Dragon Force 1 and 2. I've beaten that game sooo many fucking times and still play it.

Slayers Royale 1 and 2. Try to find a patch for it and play it that way, because there's a LOT of Japanese in it but omg it's like an interactive anime and fun.

Sakura Wars 1 and 2. TRPG meets dating sim. Total fun.

Wachenroeder. The graphics are dated and I didn't understand a single fucking word, but it's a steampunk RPG, fairly easy to beat but I loved the actual artwork.

Grandia (there's three games but I've only played the first --EDIT: Four games. I played a little of the 4th. EDIT 2: Apparently 5 games. I only played Grandia 1 and Grandia Gameboy Color.). Such. A. Fucking. Wonderful. Gem. ... ... And two of the saddest/most beautiful songs in video game history. I literally cried when Sue got left behind. And Feena's love theme is just... oh my god that song always brings a tear to my eye.
(click to show/hide)
And who could forget the fucking epic intro. When I popped the disc into my Saturn and saw this, I came. Noriyuki Iwadare is boss. If the name sounds familiar, he worked on Langrisser, Lunar, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Y's III,  Wing Commander, Ace Attorney, and Kid Icarus Uprising.
Grandia - Intro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCCwHA3ke4w#)
Kid Icarus: Uprising Music - Hades' Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FvTDyjl1fc#ws)
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Post by: Kaori on February 26, 2013, 02:54:32 AM
Since you're more into turn-based RPGs, I'm recommending what I always recommend to people looking for a good classic RPG. Play either the Sega CD or PS1 versions of Lunar Silver Star Story and Lunar 2 Eternal Blue. You get voice acting (albeit a little cheesy at times), anime cutscenes, and a good overall light-hearted story in a colorful world compared to some of the "darker" RPGs like Final Fantasy VII.

The Shin Megami Tensei series is also really good, whether you try the main series or the Persona spin-off series, all of the games are relatively good. I've only played Shin Megami Tenshi Nocturne, Persona 3, and Persona 4 though. I have some of the other games, just haven't gotten around to playing them yet. Not sure about the rest of the series, but Nocturne, Persona 3, and Persona 4 also take a little bit of thinking and strategy since enemy weaknesses play a rather important role, and if you have the wrong element, you are basically in a world of trouble...ESPECIALLY IN NOCTURNE. Nocturne is HARD, but one of my favorite PS2 games. Persona 3 and Persona 4 are really good too, though.
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Post by: Neobelmont on February 26, 2013, 04:12:34 AM
Dragon Quest I - Overture March (Symphonic Version) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1nZo4srXKU#)

And yes one specifically one of the best rpgs of all time especially the gbc version
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Post by: Kale on February 26, 2013, 07:57:07 AM
Valkyrie Profile.

The only RPG that can take you a long time to beat, while still having the option to beat the game in under 2 hours, without any sort of new game plus.
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Post by: Laina on February 26, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
Phantasy Star, Earthbound/Mother, Lunar, Grandia-I have played all of these & loved each if them in it's own special way. Persona-alas, I tried it at the tender age of 12 or so & unfortunately I just didn't really get it. I feel I'm more than ready to give it abother go with my grown up lady brain now. Valkyrie Chronicles-always meant to try it, thanks for reminding me of it. To ebay! (I'm not at all above emulating, I just prefer the original console experience when money allows).

Again, loving the suggestions folks, keep 'em coming!

P.S. I'm no stranger to them, I just find it odd that no one's suggested the Breath of Fire series yet. Great games.
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Post by: son_the_vampire on February 26, 2013, 12:06:11 PM
if you feel a bit nostalgic, id say play either Shining Force!
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Post by: Laina on February 26, 2013, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: son_the_vampire on February 26, 2013, 12:06:11 PM
if you feel a bit nostalgic, id say play either Shining Force!

Ya know, I have the first one for XBOX (Sonic's Classics Collection or whatever-old Genesis & Master System games), I just hadn't really tried it yet. I guess Streets of Rage & Phantasy Star IV had me in their ass-kicking grip. I need to put my controller back together (broken left shoulder button, just ordered the parts to fix it today) & take that title for a test run.
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Post by: Ratty on February 26, 2013, 12:57:37 PM
The Soul Blazer series is supposed to be really good http://hg101.kontek.net/quintet/quintet.htm (http://hg101.kontek.net/quintet/quintet.htm) I keep meaning to try it but haven't yet.
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Post by: Aridale on February 26, 2013, 01:13:25 PM
Soul Blazer is good. Its like Act Raiser but classic rpg view instead of sidescrolling. Sadly without the sim part tho. That was always my fav part of Act Raiser...
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Post by: KaZudra on February 26, 2013, 02:06:10 PM
Seiken Densetsu 3 - (secret of Mana 2 w/ english patch)
I consider this this the best JRPG of all time, everything is great and its one of the only JRPGs that has massive replay value.

Ys Series; These are great games with an arcade action feel to it, Ys 1,2, and 4 are more classic and very much RPG-like, Ys 3 was an experimental 2D platformer, 5,6,3(remake), and 0 Are similar to Zelda, except there is a demand of Challenge. 7 and 4 (remake) are similar to the previous but implements a Party system which works really well.

The PSP, this is a JRPG machine, and most of the games are really good, its an easy way to experience Final Fantasy 1-9, almost all the Ys games, Star Ocean, Phantasy Star, and God Eater plus many more.

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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on February 26, 2013, 02:46:30 PM
No one's talked about Xenoblade Chronicles yet?  I am disappointed!
It's a beautiful looking game, probably the best graphics I've seen on the Wii.
And it's got a pretty good storyline and a robust battle system (but it's not turn-based).
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Post by: Kale on February 26, 2013, 11:34:58 PM
Quote from: Laina on February 26, 2013, 12:02:40 PM
Valkyrie Chronicles-always meant to try it, thanks for reminding me of it. To ebay! (I'm not at all above emulating, I just prefer the original console experience when money allows).

I said Valkyrie Profile. I've personally not played Valkyria Chronicles. It looks kind of cool, I guess? But at the same time, not really.
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Post by: Aridale on February 27, 2013, 12:27:37 AM
http://ninokunigame.com/ (http://ninokunigame.com/)

Thats the game I was talkin about! I never can remember the name of it!
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Post by: Laina on February 27, 2013, 02:00:42 AM
Quote from: Kale on February 26, 2013, 11:34:58 PM
I said Valkyrie Profile.

That's what I meant. I was thinking that one, but my no sleep having brains tacked Chronicles on the end.
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Post by: Neobelmont on February 27, 2013, 02:05:59 AM
Come on try Fire Emblem  ;)

or dark spire

Classic Game Room HD - THE DARK SPIRE for Nintendo DS review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioRpxc4yXvU#ws)