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Title: "What if..?": Speculate about gaming if certain things happened
Post by: A-Yty on March 27, 2013, 11:26:59 AM
I'm not completely sure where I'm heading with this title, but I guess I wanna bounce ideas if things about gaming were altered in some way. Maybe this topic will find its simpler form eventually.

I keep thinking: what if they made an RTS version of Heroes of Might and Magic? I don't mean they should discard the core of the series (which is: being the best fantasy turn-based series in the market, IMO), but try making a spinoff. They already have at least two different series in the Might & Magic franchise, so the idea is not completely crazy.

I'm not sure if the current development team should handle it. I'd like people responsible for the first three games, especially 3, be involved.

I'd dare think the game could be enjoyable and interesting. There's probably never going to be a Warcraft IV, which would probably be the biggest fantasy-themed RTS, seeing as how popular Warcraft is (and its popularity was elevated because of WoW). I'm sure there are others, but none big or famous enough for me to be familiar with.

This kind of game could also be an opportunity to appeal to the fans of the first three games; after HOMM3, guys like "Crag Hack the barbarian" or "Sandro the necromancer" were a thing of the past. Now it's about..some angel dynasty or whatever. I haven't played parts 5 or 6. I tried 5 and found it more immersive and familiar than IV, but still not quite something I can jump into. Anyways, this RTS could jump back to somewhere in the timeline between games I-III.
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Post by: crisis on March 27, 2013, 11:54:22 AM
What if Mario Bros. 3 bombed? Then many of us would not have even been born.

I believe it's called the Butterfly Effect.
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Post by: A-Yty on March 27, 2013, 11:58:50 AM
What if Giana Sisters came out before SMB..?

If SMB did eventually come out, it would probably avoid all the things Giana Sisters took from Mario. Mario might not even be linear platformer, where you just collect powerups and points. Maybe it would be more like Alex Kidd (without the near torture that is referred to as its difficulty level).
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Post by: A-Yty on March 27, 2013, 12:09:21 PM
What if Mario Bros. 3 bombed? Then many of us would not have even been born.

I believe it's called the Butterfly Effect.

Wait..are you saying SMB3 was/is a powerful aphrodisiac?
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Post by: Kingshango on March 27, 2013, 12:56:47 PM
What if the collaboration with Sony and Nintendo went through and the Nintendo Playstation actually happened?

So many classic games on one system together, Sony and Nintendo would have been an unstoppable team and Sega would have bowed out of the console face sooner rather than later.
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Post by: A-Yty on March 27, 2013, 01:04:11 PM
Or maybe Sega would have reacted accordingly and it would be still be in the console business. Maybe it would have partnered with Microsoft?

And by this time, something like the "Steam Box" might already have been launched years ago. To fill that third spot, since three seems to be magic console market number nowadays.
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 28, 2013, 06:28:04 AM
What if Nintendo just stuck with manufacturing playing cards?

Our entire gaming history would have to change. I wonder which company would take up the mantle of Nintendo?
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Post by: Lelygax on March 28, 2013, 11:28:44 PM
What if Nintendo just stuck with manufacturing playing cards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ7X8XzvHFk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ7X8XzvHFk)
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Post by: A-Yty on March 30, 2013, 07:12:27 AM
Killer Instinct 3 Beta + Menu GamePlay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqfQ0J3U8w#ws)

If only..

The result would be..I don't know..It would restore to me and, probably, to the hordes of KI fans some faith in the world..?

Seriously. Battletoads and Killer Instinct. Come back. Please.
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Post by: Lelygax on March 30, 2013, 07:34:24 AM
Are you trying to make me shit my pants or what!? Warn us the next time or this awesomeness can kill someone lol
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Post by: A-Yty on March 30, 2013, 07:50:22 AM
I wanted to pass the damage around with that, so that everyone would feel that deadly grip of awesomeness I felt.

So..yeah..that's a fan video. And it's only the opening and menu, no fake gameplay or anything.  Killer Instinct 3 isn't in the works and I'm sure fans of the game know roughly why that is so.
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Post by: Lelygax on March 30, 2013, 08:22:33 AM
I know that and also why. Its tragic.
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Post by: Abnormal Freak on March 30, 2013, 08:59:25 AM
Would the "why" happen to be the fact that Rare now sucks a load of fat, greasy dicks?

I just found out they fired Chris Seavor late last year. Makes me wonder if there is any talent left at that company. With any luck the guy who did Grabbed by the Ghoulies is still around and will do a sequel called Grabbing the Boobies.

F'serial, I always wonder what it'd be like if Nintendo hadn't let go of Rare. Would we have a Conker sequel? What would Donkey Kong Racing have been like? Could Banjo-Threeie have existed and not chomped a big ball of poo like Nuts & Bolts? I would have loved to see all those as GameCube games, including Grabbed by the Ghoulies like it was initially designed for. Who knows? Maybe a brand new Battletoads could have been made or currently in the works? All the talent perhaps would still be around...

What if the collaboration with Sony and Nintendo went through and the Nintendo Playstation actually happened?

So many classic games on one system together, Sony and Nintendo would have been an unstoppable team and Sega would have bowed out of the console face sooner rather than later.

I pine for this, too. I wonder if we could have had Rondo of Blood in the States so much sooner? I can't see why it wouldn't have been a hit as a Super NES CD-ROM game.
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Post by: Lelygax on March 30, 2013, 09:18:43 AM
Yes, thats why. Also Rare is with Microsoft now.

About Sony+Nintendo, we would lose Youtube Poop "culture" without these CD-i games xD
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Post by: Mooning Freddy on April 02, 2013, 04:02:10 AM
Heroes RTS? Sound quite odd to me. Heroes is all about planning your moves carefully, strategically choosing which cities and technologies to develop and how to divide your armies between heroes. A Heroes RTS would require simplification of the entire complicated game system. Tank-rush? How about dragon-rush? LOL!  ;D

I kinda liked Heroes V. It was based on Heroes 3 while still managing to be original. And the whole heroine manipulated and hero-turned darklord plot was cool. Not original... But cool. 

Heroes of Might and Magic V C4M5D6 the ressurrection of King Nicolai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv-F42N-CvY#)

When I look at you, I do not see my bride. I see warmth and life... And I want to FEED on it!

What if the collaboration with Sony and Nintendo went through and the Nintendo Playstation actually happened?

So many classic games on one system together, Sony and Nintendo would have been an unstoppable team and Sega would have bowed out of the console face sooner rather than later.

If that kind of unification could be achived, IT WOULD BE THE END OF ALL OF US!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

If they set that android free it will be the end of all of us!!! NOOO! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjL8YVSewPc#ws)
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Post by: Pfil on April 17, 2013, 07:14:19 AM
What if...
the movie on which every character dies in Dragon Ball Z, were the actual ending to the anime? That would have been so, so awesome! I've always thought it! Let the series play until the android, then everyone dies and Trunks is left alone... a beautiful man, alone in a post apocalyptic hopeless world, lawning to the past and crying alone.
Tragic music enters, camera turns away, and it ends...

Beautiful.
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Post by: Lelygax on April 17, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
Then he gets his time machine and goes back in time again and again.
Title: Re: "What if..?": Speculate about gaming if certain things happened
Post by: Pfil on April 18, 2013, 06:10:09 AM
Make the time machine be destroyed by the androids when he goes to the past that time, and that's it. He's the last man on Earth, stuck in a hopeless world forever. Everything and everyone's gone.
The kind of ending I love  :)
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Post by: Lelygax on April 18, 2013, 02:45:35 PM
Then Bulma constructs a new time machine and he goes back in time again and again...  again XD
Title: Re: "What if..?": Speculate about gaming if certain things happened
Post by: Pfil on April 18, 2013, 05:06:21 PM
He is the last person and doesn't know how to build another time machine.

Although, knowing Dragon Ball Z, I bet if that was the plot, they would have make like 40 episodes about time traveling again and again.
I remember being so bored while the Cell saga, some battles were endless and lasted for like 10 episodes. Cell's part (when the tournament gets interrupted and until Cell dies) is definitively my less favourite part of the anime.
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Post by: A-Yty on April 18, 2013, 05:41:24 PM
I can't watch Dragon Ball Z with a straight face after I watched a whole clip of the show for the first time. This clip:

Goku goes Super Saiyan 3 remastered HD (1080p) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH_CcJ-uBWI#ws)

I checked it out because I was curious, because lots of people say they like DZ, but after that I have no way of knowing if they're in any way serious.

Not that I'm trying to piss on anyone here. I like lots of ridiculous things.

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Post by: son_the_vampire on April 18, 2013, 05:57:36 PM
What if the truck actually moved in Pokemon Red? Would Mew still be the rarest one of the time since everyone had it?
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Post by: Neobelmont on April 18, 2013, 06:34:38 PM
I can't watch Dragon Ball Z with a straight face after I watched a whole clip of the show for the first time. This clip:

Goku goes Super Saiyan 3 remastered HD (1080p) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH_CcJ-uBWI#ws)

I checked it out because I was curious, because lots of people say they like DZ, but after that I have no way of knowing if they're in any way serious.

Not that I'm trying to piss on anyone here. I like lots of ridiculous things.

Just watch this instead

Dragon Ball Opening 02 Japones - Japanese - NP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dqq2LS-K10#)

people always talk about z never db why? At first when I was akid I never respect DB but nowadays I'm way more fond of DB over Z, why? TO me better story like King piccolo, Red Ribbion, not to mention every character had the chance to shine. People always talk bad about krillin but I remember Piccolo saying that he had to watch out for him because he posed a threat. no saiyan crap, better fight scenes DB had more hand to hand fights than dbz or gt which were more energy focused.

here is a scene that I like

Dragonball Kid Goku vs Tien Shinhan Full Fight part 1/3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtqlZfu0Nc#)

Goku Vs. Tambourine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoD1BRsKyCg#)
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Post by: Lelygax on April 18, 2013, 10:33:36 PM
Thanks God that they dubbed from the JP version instead of the US one here in Brazil, I like much more the original soundtrack than the US one (dont take me bad, they all are good music, but the original one mix better with the anime IMO). Also I've started seeing DB with 4 years, years later they launched DBZ here.
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Post by: Pfil on April 19, 2013, 12:57:42 AM
The first time I watched Dragon Ball Z was in portuguese, in a channel called Bandeirantes that I had back then on my local cable company.
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Post by: Lelygax on April 19, 2013, 01:18:16 AM
Bandeirantes is one of the standards/normal channels here in Brazil. Did you liked the dub? lol
Bandeirantes only buyed episodes until Cell's Saga, Majin Buu's Saga have aired in Globo. But I've seen them all in Cartoon Network first.
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Post by: Pfil on April 19, 2013, 02:53:05 AM
Yes, I liked the dub.
And the funny thing is that I could understand what they were saying, although I didn't know portuguese. By the time we reached Cell's saga I could understand almost everything they talked.
Knowing spanish and italian helped.
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Post by: Neobelmont on April 19, 2013, 04:55:49 AM
Yes, I liked the dub.
And the funny thing is that I could understand what they were saying, although I didn't know portuguese. By the time we reached Cell's saga I could understand almost everything they talked.
Knowing spanish and italian helped.

You know Italian as well molto bene  :)
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Post by: Pfil on April 19, 2013, 06:11:56 AM
Thanks!  :)
I'm learning japanese now, ending 3rd level this november.
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 19, 2013, 07:13:32 AM
Thanks!  :)
I'm learning japanese now, ending 3rd level this november.

Go for it!

DBZ... I can't stop LOLing whenever I hear the US dub of "Kamehameha".
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Post by: Pfil on April 19, 2013, 08:23:53 PM
The US dub is definitively funny!
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Post by: Lelygax on April 20, 2013, 01:14:30 AM
Well, the portuguese dub (from portugal) give me some laughs.

DBZ - Vegeta! Olha beeem! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu7muZaoTUQ#)
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Post by: Pfil on April 20, 2013, 01:18:46 AM
Hahaha!
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Post by: VladCT on April 20, 2013, 01:26:17 AM
How the heck did this turn into a DBZ dub thread?
Getting back on topic, what if SEGA didn't pull half the team working on Sonic '06 away to make Sonic and the Secret Rings and didn't rush the former game too? Sure, there are many things that can still go wrong even if it was properly finished. But hey, at least the hit won't be as hard. Of course, this could also mean that Unleashed's daytime levels and Generations' Modern Sonic levels could've turned out...differently.
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Post by: Lelygax on April 20, 2013, 01:43:51 AM
Then Sonic and the Black Knight never would be launched, poor thing because I like this game.
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Post by: Pfil on April 20, 2013, 02:34:53 AM
I liked Secret Rings, but something about Sonic's soul was kind of missing.
I liked Black Knight but it was too short.
I loved Unleashed (yeah, I'm on the minority here).
I really liked Generations and both Episodes of Sonic 4.
I hated Sonic for PS3.