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Title: Order of shadows
Post by: Skycaptain Steampunk on April 12, 2013, 06:28:16 PM
I play this game i think it will have to do with lords of shadows, they tell me is a game for celulars, but it sucks so much, the gameplay is the more lent and boring i see in one castlevania, its the worst castlevania of the history and i play it in a minutes, i dont know, a half a hour maybe, the music is anoying, the hero is a good try to be manly but the poeple drawed it sure was amateur, in the resumen, the game is a horrible game.
any one in the forum played it and what they people think?
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Mystic Myotis on April 12, 2013, 06:36:45 PM
... I have not played it, no.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Reinhart77 on April 12, 2013, 06:45:30 PM
of course i've played it, specifically bought a cell phone that would be able to play it (can't not play every Castlevania game after all).  i enjoyed it for what it was worth.  it got me through a few moments i would have been bored in otherwise.  there's not much you can do with a 9 key phone input and the limited processing power available at the time, and i was tickled to be able to play a CV title on a phone in the first place. 
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 13, 2013, 01:17:37 AM
I played it, liked it, and still has it on my phone. But I don't play it anymore.

I also got both the mobile versions of the sorrow games, just for the sake of getting all vania games on my cell. But those are watered down editions of the actual game. The magic seals as keyboard presses... sigh...
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: jestercolony on April 13, 2013, 05:00:53 AM
Order of Shadow has nothing to do with Lords of Shadow. I've only played it once (via emulation) and couldn't really stand it the first ten minutes, so I never really played that title.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Bergaron on April 13, 2013, 05:22:41 AM
Order of Shadows  ;D  18/09/2007 (konami)  Old times, old Phone APIs.... no miracles
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Reinhart77 on April 13, 2013, 06:16:19 AM
I played it, liked it, and still has it on my phone. But I don't play it anymore.

I also got both the mobile versions of the sorrow games, just for the sake of getting all vania games on my cell. But those are watered down editions of the actual game. The magic seals as keyboard presses... sigh...
Oh I'm jealous, I haven't been able to play the mobile sorrow games (other than the DoS demo).  Don't think any phones in the US are allowed to play them (legally?).  I think I could try emulating them on my laptop, but it wouldn't be the same experience as on an actual phone (especially one that you're currently using and happen to have on you at all times when you find yourself with extra time on your hands away from home).  Guess I'm just morbidly curious to see how they rearranged things.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Lelygax on April 13, 2013, 08:49:55 AM
If your phone runs java games, then all these games will work.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Dark Nemesis on April 13, 2013, 02:14:36 PM
I didn't have a phone capable of playing it by that time, so i've played it on a emulator, but for little.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Maedhros on April 13, 2013, 07:27:46 PM
The worst Castlevania, that's FOR SURE.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: TheouAegis on April 13, 2013, 07:54:08 PM
I tried watching a play-through of it on YouTube. Had to skip over the intro by something like 3 or 4 minutes. Watched 30 seconds of gameplay and stabbed my eyes out on the corner of my desk to break the boredom. First game play-through I couldn't stand to watch.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Lelygax on April 13, 2013, 10:01:33 PM
I beat this game, its really boring but have some nice (or crazy) ideas. Like Crisaegrim being a sub-weapon and Desmond use alchemy to do magic.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Ahasverus on April 13, 2013, 10:19:25 PM
I played the sorrow games and thought they were great versions for their time.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Kaori on April 13, 2013, 11:00:52 PM
Nope. Never played OoS. I never had a cellphone capable of running it. I never even watched a gameplay video of it, honestly. I don't know why I haven't seen anything of it yet. Maybe it's because this is the Castlevania game I tend to forget existed, lol.

So now I'm watching this: Castlevania: Order of Shadows Quick Play (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMZtjyBdEfw#ws)

Yeah. That just looks painful. At least their commentary is amusing enough. I give the guy credit for trying to play that game...but that looks...awful.  :-X

One thing I noticed is that I love how the help menu tells you to go play Dracula X Chronicles. Shameless advertising Konami, shameless advertising. However, playing Dracula X Chronicles is actually probably the best help you can get from the help menu in OoS. It's telling you what you REALLY should be playing instead of OoS, lol.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 14, 2013, 07:44:14 AM
Oh I'm jealous, I haven't been able to play the mobile sorrow games (other than the DoS demo).  Don't think any phones in the US are allowed to play them (legally?).  I think I could try emulating them on my laptop, but it wouldn't be the same experience as on an actual phone (especially one that you're currently using and happen to have on you at all times when you find yourself with extra time on your hands away from home).  Guess I'm just morbidly curious to see how they rearranged things.

I know a site that has free java games that i can download to my phone via memory card. But as Lely said, your phone has to support java.
I would agree that emulating is a different experience.
The map for AoS is the same, the hidden areas are already there so you dont have to break walls. There are only 2 bosses. You can still get souls but i think it is harder to farm them. And you would soon lose interest in farming for souls hehehe.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Skycaptain Steampunk on April 14, 2013, 10:25:22 PM
why play two clones of symphony of the night in a celular? original games is horrible, for celular they sure play equal of order of shadows and have heroes of anime.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Mystic Myotis on April 15, 2013, 12:20:23 AM
Order of Shadows looks terrible but I think I've played worse. The game probably has potential that could only be realized in a complete re-haul. XD  Hmm... tempted to try and get a hold of it.  I don't mind 'bad' games so long as I don't get stuck every five seconds *shakes fist at Milon's Secret Castle.*


why play two clones of symphony of the night in a celular? original games is horrible, for celular they sure play equal of order of shadows and have heroes of anime.

You have your opinion and I have my opinion, and my opinion is that your opinion and your attitude both suck.

This is not the Lords of Shadow forum.  This is the Castlevania forum for fans of the SERIES.  If you don't understand that then you don't belong here.

Man, if this is how you are about people's different tastes in games I'd hate to try and talk politics with you. >_>
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 15, 2013, 01:46:22 AM
You have your opinion and I have my opinion, and my opinion is that your opinion and your attitude both suck.

This is not the Lords of Shadow forum.  This is the Castlevania forum for fans of the SERIES.  If you don't understand that then you don't belong here.

Man, if this is how you are about people's different tastes in games I'd hate to try and talk politics with you. >_>

Just ignore him dear. Then you are at peace.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Inccubus on April 15, 2013, 05:31:07 AM
Order of Shadows looks terrible but I think I've played worse. The game probably has potential that could only be realized in a complete re-haul. XD  Hmm... tempted to try and get a hold of it.  I don't mind 'bad' games so long as I don't get stuck every five seconds *shakes fist at Milon's Secret Castle.*

Totally agree! The execution is definitely limited by the hardware, but the ideas they introduced have potential. Also, I commend them for trying to flesh out a time period we previously knew nothing about. Some actual Belmont women in the story and Simon's daddy? Yes, please!
I've had urges to remake this game, too. It has lots of potential.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: X on April 15, 2013, 09:38:31 AM
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Totally agree! The execution is definitely limited by the hardware, but the ideas they introduced have potential. Also, I commend them for trying to flesh out a time period we previously knew nothing about. Some actual Belmont women in the story and Simon's daddy? Yes, please!
I've had urges to remake this game, too. It has lots of potential.

While there were two Belmont women in the game not one of them was the heir to the Vampirekiller. It was a wasted opportunity.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: shelverton. on April 15, 2013, 10:17:19 AM
why play two clones of symphony of the night in a celular? original games is horrible, for celular they sure play equal of order of shadows and have heroes of anime.

You are wrong. The original Aria of Sorrow is excellent, and I personally love Dawn of Sorrow too. The mobile versions are disappointing and not nearly as good as the original games, but they're alright for what they are.

Order of Shadows is bad, but I like the music in the first level. And it's at least better than Mirror of Fate, as I'm sure you would agree with.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Inccubus on April 15, 2013, 04:16:13 PM
While there were two Belmont women in the game not one of them was the heir to the Vampirekiller. It was a wasted opportunity.

Yeap.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 16, 2013, 02:46:08 AM
You are wrong. The original Aria of Sorrow is excellent, and I personally love Dawn of Sorrow too. The mobile versions are disappointing and not nearly as good as the original games, but they're alright for what they are.

Order of Shadows is bad, but I like the music in the first level. And it's at least better than Mirror of Fate, as I'm sure you would agree with.

YUP, I love the Somavanias too! OoS is better than MoF.

I've had urges to remake this game, too. It has lots of potential.

I'll await that remake.  :)
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Maedhros on April 16, 2013, 05:23:37 AM
Order of Shadows is better than MoF? Now, THAT'S fucking trolling... you guys really can't be serious...

Did you guys REALLY played Order of Shadows?
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Inccubus on April 16, 2013, 05:37:01 AM
I'd say yes we have, and Shiroi-chan is definitely trolling.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: son_the_vampire on April 16, 2013, 05:38:04 AM
Don't really see why everyone bashes OoS, it needs due credit for having original music available alternatively (not sure if MoF does)... Desmond was easier to control to me than Chris was on GB. I dont remember falling every 4.5 seconds in that game. I dont hate CVA i just never beat it and it gives me chills... **begin trolling**kinda like ecco the dolphin; i enjoyed it thoroughly swimming, jumping out the water and all... soon as u hit a fish this scary music comes on... Never knew what happens after that because i was young and just turned of the sega**end trolling**
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Maedhros on April 16, 2013, 05:57:41 AM
Don't really see why everyone bashes OoS, it needs due credit for having original music available alternatively (not sure if MoF does)... Desmond was easier to control to me than Chris was on GB. I dont remember falling every 4.5 seconds in that game. I dont hate CVA i just never beat it and it gives me chills... **begin trolling**kinda like ecco the dolphin; i enjoyed it thoroughly swimming, jumping out the water and all... soon as u hit a fish this scary music comes on... Never knew what happens after that because i was young and just turned of the sega**end trolling**
- Original SHITTY music. It's really awful by any standards. It's simply bad... no... it's worse. (MoF does have original soundtrack)
- The controls are worse than the GB castlevanias.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: son_the_vampire on April 16, 2013, 06:14:07 AM
Sound quality wise Maedhros, how would you compare this to say HoD? Also keep in mind each devices capabilities.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Inccubus on April 16, 2013, 02:28:14 PM
(MoF does have original soundtrack)

I think he meant if MoF has the original music from the old games like OoS has as an unlockable. And, no, MoF doesn't. Not one single remix.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Pfil on April 17, 2013, 01:11:50 AM
To be honest, I didn't like Order of Shadows, nor I liked its music.

But there are some things I liked about it...
The first stage theme has potential to make a good track, but I find it lacking in composition. The chord progression lacks emotion to what it makes an emotional and powerful Castlevania first stage theme. But it has the potential. The composers were, according to the review from this site, a bunch of newcomers, or something like that :P
So, it's understandable.
The final level theme is very beautiful, but I don't know if it's an actual original theme or a classical one. One way or the other, it was the highest point of my experience with the game.

About the gameplay, I couldn't play it with a phone. I acquired a phone exclusively for a single Castlevania game, since my previous phone didn't supported it. And I was highly disappointed. But I see potential for (like others said) a remake, with better gameplay and more levels.
I wasn't able to finish the game (I'm not good playing with numerals), so I ended up emulating it a few days after buying the new phone. I beat the game, and I really didn't like it, but I don't know how they could have make it better with the mobile technology of that times.

About the Sorrow mobile games, taking into account that they are mobile versions of great NDS games, I think they fared pretty well. You have to take them for what they are and not compare them to their NDS counterparts.

And last, about Order of Shadows being better than Mirror of Fate... I don't want to create discussion, but I think that's going a little too far. Mirror of Fate may not be what I expect from Castlevania, but it is better than Lords of Shadow in my opinion, and it has some redeeming elements, at least to my tastes (nice backgrounds and details, some stages, nods to past games, and a touching story), and that's a lot more about what I can say about Order of Shadows.
I think Mirror of Fate is a game way, way better than Order of Shadows.
Although, I find the comparison a little unfair. One is for an 8th generation portable console, and the other for old java cellphones.
I'd like to see full remake of Order of Shadows, if possible for 3DS, and only then the comparison would be fair (in that case, I think I'd be more inclined to my traditional Castlevania type of game, but that's only hypothetical so far).

Sorry for the long post.

Edit: Changed "I think Mirror of Fate is a game way, way better than Mirror of Fate" for "I think Mirror of Fate is a game way, way better than Order of Shadows".
I used the same name twice in the phrase  :P
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 17, 2013, 01:47:32 AM
I'd say yes we have, and Shiroi-chan is definitely trolling.

Yup. I was.  ;D
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Mystic Myotis on April 17, 2013, 03:46:24 AM
And last, about Order of Shadows being better than Mirror of Fate... I don't want to create discussion, but I think that's going a little too far.

They were joking...
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Inccubus on April 17, 2013, 08:45:48 AM
Seriously, though, MoF has about as much stuff in it I like as OoS does. Both games kinda suck for completely different reasons and in completely different ways.
!!!
I know!
The two games should mate and either breed the best CV ever or the most terrifying mess of a shit game ever.
The caliber of which would make your eyes melt out of your head either through divine awe or demonic horror.
!!!
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Lelygax on April 17, 2013, 09:19:27 AM
I think Mirror of Fate is a game way, way better than Mirror of Fate.
Although, I find the comparison a little unfair. One is for an 8th generation portable console, and the other for old java cellphones.

lolwut? You mean Order of Shadows.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: son_the_vampire on April 17, 2013, 02:24:39 PM
Seriously, though, MoF has about as much stuff in it I like as OoS does. Both games kinda suck for completely different reasons and in completely different ways.
!!!
I know!
The two games should mate and either breed the best CV ever or the most terrifying mess of a shit game ever.
The caliber of which would make your eyes melt out of your head either through divine awe or demonic horror.
!!!
I'm fearful to give MoF a go because I most definitely will create a mess wondering how this CV stacks up to the OoE masterpiece. I envision A Da Vinci painting, only with Andy Warhol backgrounds! Hahaha (anyone) :rollseyes:
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 17, 2013, 06:54:53 PM
Seriously, though, MoF has about as much stuff in it I like as OoS does. Both games kinda suck for completely different reasons and in completely different ways.
!!!
I know!
The two games should mate and either breed the best CV ever or the most terrifying mess of a shit game ever.
The caliber of which would make your eyes melt out of your head either through divine awe or demonic horror.
!!!

I'm calling the most terrifying mess of shit.  ;D
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Pfil on April 18, 2013, 12:56:35 AM
lolwut? You mean Order of Shadows.
Hahaha! Thanks for the advise. I've just corrected it now.

Granted, Mirror of Fate is by far the worst portable Castlevania game when comparing it to GB, GBA, NDS and PSP games. At least that's my personal view.
I'm very curious about an exclusive Vita game from a new team.
A new Chronicles entry, perhaps? Or a full-new ClassicVania?
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 18, 2013, 02:20:05 AM
I'm very curious about an exclusive Vita game from a new team.
A new Chronicles entry, perhaps? Or a full-new ClassicVania?

Oh, I haven't heard of this. Where's the rumor coming from?
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Lelygax on April 18, 2013, 09:49:07 AM
Oh, I haven't heard of this. Where's the rumor coming from?

I think that she is saying that it would be cool, not that it has been rumored. But I can be wrong. :P
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: son_the_vampire on April 18, 2013, 09:52:28 AM
I want to believe its a rumor, this may bring it into fruition.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Pfil on April 18, 2013, 12:01:31 PM
Oh, I haven't heard of this. Where's the rumor coming from?
From my well of wishes...
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Skycaptain Steampunk on April 23, 2013, 05:17:46 PM
finally one poeple see the mirror of fate is excelent game and better what order of shadows, in the page of back of here.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Pfil on April 23, 2013, 10:56:55 PM
No, you misunderstood what I said.
I didn't say Mirror of Fate is excellent; it's a passable game, at best. It's better than Lords of Shadow from what I've personally experienced playing both games, but that doesn't say much about it, they are still my least favourite console and portable game, respectively.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Skycaptain Steampunk on April 23, 2013, 11:42:32 PM
no you miss the point, mirror of fate is the excelent game of portatil, you dont see because you like portatil games of nintendo ds, i see in your name, you cant see it.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 24, 2013, 01:03:22 AM
oh boy... here we go again~~~ ♫♪♫♪~~~
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: X on April 28, 2013, 12:04:58 AM
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oh boy... here we go again~~~ ♫♪♫♪~~~

lol!
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Nagumo on April 28, 2013, 02:26:21 AM
This is probably a dumb question, but can you play this game on a smart phone? I can't find it anywhere in the gamestore. I know it was released in Europe as well.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 28, 2013, 03:01:31 AM
This is probably a dumb question, but can you play this game on a smart phone? I can't find it anywhere in the gamestore. I know it was released in Europe as well.

Nope. Unless you have a java game emulator.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Lelygax on May 05, 2013, 06:29:02 PM
Tell me more about it, I have a smartphone now lol
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 06, 2013, 02:29:33 AM
Tell me more about it, I have a smartphone now lol

I think you should just google it. I have no idea which app is best though, since I do not own a smartphone.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Nagumo on May 06, 2013, 09:38:29 AM
I could not find any java emulator app. If anyone knows one, please let me know.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: Pfil on May 07, 2013, 12:18:56 PM
You can emulate it on a computer too.
Title: Re: Order of shadows
Post by: son_the_vampire on May 08, 2013, 05:32:59 AM
Maybe some fans can give this a face lift. I mean it obviously doesnt have the same Castlevaniaesque of its brethren and i have seen some gorgeous rework done to titles from fellow dungeonites. There is hope for Desmond still and i wont let his soul burn away like the game has!