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Title: Infidelity
Post by: Lone Wolf on May 05, 2013, 06:24:13 PM
So... Has someone ever had problems with this before?
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Neobelmont on May 05, 2013, 06:37:40 PM
no but I did a something 80+ page report alongside my team in sociology(and had to present all this information BY MY SELF during Finals). They say men cheat more but I say that there is not(nor will there ever be) sufficient enough proof for that even with all we acquired .   
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Lone Wolf on May 05, 2013, 06:48:20 PM
Well... I actually can't believe it is possible to live with such a thing deep inside of you..
I mean, even knowing this is wrong and there's a girl you love so much... You still do this to yourself, and her as well. It feels horrible...
What is true love at the start? Can we really love someone enough to not even betray them? Humans commit mistakes, i know, but how? Can't we find any true love? Will we always live with this same thing tormenting our lives?
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Ratty on May 05, 2013, 06:59:12 PM
Are you asking for advice or what?

The best place to start is the beginning, so ask a few questions to set the outlines of your greater conundrum.
What precisely is fidelity and why does it matter to you? Are we talking about emotional fidelity or physical only? At what point does one cross the line into infidelity? Can one be physically faithful but unfaithful emotionally and mentally? Why does it bother you when your spouse cheats on you, what does it say about your relationship and their feelings toward you? After all there are people, swingers and polygamists, who don't see a contradiction with many partners at once or having casual sex with many people who are not your partner.

Some of these questions you have to answer yourself and some have accepted definite answers, but the answers to all of them should be considered when trying to understand infidelity, why it happens and why it hurts. Also don't forget that brain chemistry that might be the result of other factors comes into play, as well as the fact that sex (along with the search for food and shelter/security) is one of the three primary motivators for humans.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Neobelmont on May 05, 2013, 07:19:58 PM
Well... I actually can't believe it is possible to live with such a thing deep inside of you..
I mean, even knowing this is wrong and there's a girl you love so much... You still do this to yourself, and her as well. It feels horrible...
What is true love at the start? Can we really love someone enough to not even betray them? Humans commit mistakes, i know, but how? Can't we find any true love? Will we always live with this same thing tormenting our lives?

 You have a girl right there to love you to death yet, you turn the other way to hurt her it makes no sense to me either. Facts and research may show something as to possible reasons why, but in the end...

I was a little kid when I heard this song:


 
The Thunder Rolls: Garth Brooks lyrics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIV0oovj7vc#)


Things like this lead to no good even death...
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Lone Wolf on May 05, 2013, 07:34:58 PM
I don't see this in such a way, Ratty.. I mean, when there's someone you love very much..
But still, sometimes you commit mistakes..
You know, as a man, how can you still feel something for other persons as well as your first lover, and still live with that so commonly?
I mean, if real love means more than just "liking" someone..
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Ratty on May 05, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
Meh human's don't always act logically, especially where their libido is concerned. Because on some level we're just pack mules for our genetics trying to disperse our traits in as wide a net as possible out of pure instinct. It's a common human failing we have to recognize. We don't have to accept it, but recognizing and understanding it can only help us control it.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Lone Wolf on May 05, 2013, 07:58:29 PM
Meh human's don't always act logically, especially where their libido is concerned. Because on some level we're just pack mules for our genetics trying to disperse our traits in as wide a net as possible out of pure instinct. It's a common human failing we have to recognize. We don't have to accept it, but recognizing and understanding it can only help us control it.

I got it... It's something instinctive, i know.. But it sucks.. Then how can you differ it from true love?

You have a girl right there to love you to death yet, you turn the other way to hurt her it makes no sense to me either. Facts and research may show something as to possible reasons why, but in the end...

I was a little kid when I heard this song:

 
The Thunder Rolls: Garth Brooks lyrics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIV0oovj7vc#)


Things like this lead to no good even death...

I agree, Neo.. And still, you try to be loyal to her as much as possible... Sometimes it hurts to be a man, you know... I heard women can still control this with more facility. Not saying women can't betray men, though.. But i can't stand the fact men seem so fragile to this...
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: uzo on May 05, 2013, 09:04:06 PM
Cheaters are scumbags. No if's, and's or but's.

THE END
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Ratty on May 05, 2013, 09:56:25 PM
I got it... It's something instinctive, i know.. But it sucks.. Then how can you differ it from true love?

I'm afraid I don't understand what you're asking. Love and lust are obviously very different (though not necessarily mutually exclusive) emotions when you experience them. Some people unfortunately have very poor impulse control when it comes to their biological urges, whether it's food, sloth or sex. But I should think even to such people the difference between physical desire and deeply held affection are obvious.

I agree, Neo.. And still, you try to be loyal to her as much as possible... Sometimes it hurts to be a man, you know... I heard women can still control this with more facility. Not saying women can't betray men, though.. But i can't stand the fact men seem so fragile to this...

At least part of that is biology/instinct, for most of the history of our species (and still today in large part) if a man got a woman pregnant and didn't want to raise the baby he could just leave. The woman doesn't have that option, she's stuck at least until she has the baby or has a miscarriage/abortion. So women might have a stronger tendency to be monogamous and selective of their partners purely on instinct.

Cheaters are scumbags. No if's, and's or but's.

THE END

Yes but again how do you define cheating? Is it a violation of trust? Does it have to be a physical act? I'm not a religious man by any stretch of the imagination however in Matthew 5:28 Jesus says "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."*
So are lustful thoughts for those who are not your partner infidelity? Or does a perhaps older axiom hold true, that being "I'm married, not dead." ?

*No doubt most other religions have input on the subject as well. If someone has some examples they might add an interesting dimension to the discussion.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: TheouAegis on May 05, 2013, 10:38:35 PM
No such thing as cheating. As for who does it more, it's even. ... Yeah I just contradicted myself. When a guy cheats, it's usually for sex. When a girl cheats, it's usually for companionship or sex. Since girls typically have more reasons to cheat than guys, then girls potentially cheat more often than guys. The thing is most girls think a guy really loves them when he's just there for the sex and isn't really cheating because he never wanted her for anything more than a fuck buddy. Some girls are like that too, hence why I said there's no such thing.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Lone Wolf on May 05, 2013, 11:04:43 PM
Not all guys just want girls for sex. But instinct is still something that really bothers you at times like these, men just can't resist it in most of times... And even when you know that you love someone, when something as this comes to you, it can be really annoying.

At least part of that is biology/instinct, for most of the history of our species (and still today in large part) if a man got a woman pregnant and didn't want to raise the baby he could just leave. The woman doesn't have that option, she's stuck at least until she has the baby or has a miscarriage/abortion. So women might have a stronger tendency to be monogamous and selective of their partners purely on instinct.

Yes but again how do you define cheating? Is it a violation of trust? Does it have to be a physical act? I'm not a religious man by any stretch of the imagination however in Matthew 5:28 Jesus says "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."*
So are lustful thoughts for those who are not your partner infidelity? Or does a perhaps older axiom hold true, that being "I'm married, not dead." ?

About the first one, what do you mean with "instinct" in there, Ratty? And, you're not relating emotions to it as well, are you?

And about the second one, i know what you mean. So even if a man really loves a person, he can still be with another girls and that's it? I don't know, i think there's more than just one thing to think about.
First, what is he feeling for both girls? Is this really love? Or maybe what he feels for the second one is lust?
Second, as you said, what is considered infidelity? Even if he could feel the same for both girls, or not, so just staying with a second girl as well is enough to be considered cheating?
And third, isn't it wrong? I mean, can he still live with both at the same time? Even if he loves one person only, is it still okay to live with more than just one? Maybe? Since one of them agrees with that and doesn't see it as cheating? I think it's not just the opinion of the man that counts, but the opinion of each girl as well, don't you agree with it? So they can all live in harmony, even if in a three-person relationship or whatever that is.. I don't mean to relate it to the religious point of view, though..
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Lone Wolf on May 05, 2013, 11:51:44 PM
Look, i'm sorry if it's not allowed to double post or whatever. But i need to put it out..

For me, i don't think being with more than just one girl could be wrong. I mean, does it necessarily have to be considered a "betrayal"?
Maybe jealousy is some kind of obsession for love? Or maybe just fear from losing one's partner to the other person?
If one man has a second girl as well, doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't feel anything for the first one anymore.. He may still feel something, for both of them, as well..
Maybe... Being with another girl as well isn't wrong, maybe people were just tought this way, and now they have fear that something horrible could happen?
Personally, I think both the guy and the girl are free to stay with other persons, of course, since they can still maintain their main relationship. Freedom was made for both of them, and of course, whatever happens to one couple, it's one couple's responsability, the other couples have nothing to do with that.
For me it would be okay.. But i'm still not sure if it's right, or if i shouldn't care about it? I'm not really sure if thinking this way is right for me. I don't see any trouble though, but... I wonder if two persons in a couple can understand their mistakes, and make it through...
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: X on May 06, 2013, 12:30:50 AM
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Maybe... Being with another girl as well isn't wrong, maybe people were just tought this way, and now they have fear that something horrible could happen?

And you'd be right. We were taught this way; by religion. They had essentially shoved it down our throats. Before religion there was paganism and the whole idea of being tied down with one woman for the rest of your life simply did not exist in the same context as it does today. A married couple had the freedom to sleep with other men/women if they so chose. It was all for the benefit/survival of the group/tribe. There was nothing sinful about it. Sex is a survival instinct, like food, water, shelter and fighting to survive. Love is something you feel with your heart and soul. It is in essence the power of God and what you feel with your heart and soul is vastly different then what you feel with your libido. Physical pleasure is only temporary; lasting till the deed is done, whilst the pleasure you feel with your heart and soul is forever. Even if you don't feel it after a time it is still with you; imprinted unto your very being. Love is not related to physical sex even though some of the religious communities would see it otherwise. It's simply human nature to procreate with more then one woman, even if you are married. So in terms of "infidelity" I don't think that such a word was ever meant to exist, let alone be forced upon us just to satisfy a few dogmatic egomaniacs. God understands completely about this nature of ours because he/she created us with it and therefore it is truth. As true as we are. As we can be. And unfortunately it is a truth that many have attempted to stamp out, without even beginning to try and understand why it is and why it exists.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Lone Wolf on May 06, 2013, 01:48:17 AM
I love you, dude. It makes an amazing sense to me this way. Thank you so much! I totally agree it. :)
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Inccubus on May 06, 2013, 11:11:39 AM
Yes. That's part of the reason I'm two years divorced now.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: uzo on May 06, 2013, 02:25:28 PM
@Ratty: There is a difference between being tempted and caving into the urge to act on that temptation. Certainly thoughts can become toxic, but the better man files away the thoughts and doesn't cheat.

It all boils down to expectations of the partners and the established situation understood by each. If partners both clearly understand the casual nature of the relationship, and are OK with promiscuity in the relationship, then so be it. Have a ball and keep safe. If that is not the case, then one or both sides have been lead on to believe that the relationship is exclusive. When a partner cheats within an exclusive relationship, that is absolutely inexcusable. They are a class A scumbag.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: TheouAegis on May 06, 2013, 04:18:55 PM
What if the guy or girl doesn't realize the other thinks it's an exclusive relationship? What if through no fault of his or her own the guy or girl is in an open relationship in his or her mind but his or her partner doesn't feel the same way? That's not cheating, that's the other person being an idiot and thinking she or he is in deeper than she or he really is.  Just because your partner is an idealistic bimbo doesn't mean you're cheating, it just means you're a man-pig and doing what all good man-pigs do -- fucking sows.


I'm certain my ex would have cheated on me, assuming she wasn't already cheating on me while we were together.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: uzo on May 06, 2013, 05:53:56 PM
Withholding your intentions of the relationship to save as a "not my fault" card later is even worse than just cheating. That is just down right intent to use, abuse, and throw away then you're done. Thats a pretty sick attitude to have. Also, open relationships are also the exception not the rule, such will be the typical presumption. Both partners need to be explicit with their intentions, especially if they differ from the norm.

The amount of excuses being made in this thread is actually pretty disturbing.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Neobelmont on May 06, 2013, 06:07:23 PM


It all boils down to expectations of the partners and the established situation understood by each. If partners both clearly understand the casual nature of the relationship, and are OK with promiscuity in the relationship, then so be it. Have a ball and keep safe. If that is not the case, then one or both sides have been lead on to believe that the relationship is exclusive. When a partner cheats within an exclusive relationship, that is absolutely inexcusable. They are a class A scumbag.

I'm with uzo on this one there should be no excuse for this kind of behavior. This kind of damage goes beyond just physical it's an emotional as well one that may never heal and can cause one major doubts about the opposite sex for the rest of their lives.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Ratty on May 07, 2013, 01:17:31 AM
I agree uzo, that's been one of my main contentions. That (in)fidelity is largely a matter of communication, and depends heavily on how partners in a relationship agree to define it. Personally I think most people are inclined to stick to a two partner system when it comes to long-term relationships but even then there's a lot of leeway and variation from couple to couple. Some spouses would consider it cheating or tantamount to cheating if their partner went to a stripclub, some go to the clubs with their partner and get lapdances of their own.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Inccubus on May 07, 2013, 01:49:41 AM
@Ratty: There is a difference between being tempted and caving into the urge to act on that temptation. Certainly thoughts can become toxic, but the better man files away the thoughts and doesn't cheat.

I lived through that myself. I had the opportunity to cheat. And I mean mean this other woman was naked in front of me but I couldn't do it to my girlfriend who was passed out drunk in the next room and was definitely NOT waking up until the next day. And I really like this other woman too, so it wasn't easy to turn her down. I did make out with her, but my girlfriend and I agreed making out was fine especially if we were tipsy. On the other hand she ended up cheating on me twice after we were married and all of HER friends are now MY friends because they think she's an asshole for fucking up the best relationship she ever had in the meanest shittiest way possible to one of the nicest guys they've ever met.


It all boils down to expectations of the partners and the established situation understood by each. If partners both clearly understand the casual nature of the relationship, and are OK with promiscuity in the relationship, then so be it. Have a ball and keep safe. If that is not the case, then one or both sides have been lead on to believe that the relationship is exclusive. When a partner cheats within an exclusive relationship, that is absolutely inexcusable. They are a class A scumbag.

Amen to that, +1.


What if the guy or girl doesn't realize the other thinks it's an exclusive relationship?

Then the person that doesn't realize is a moron. The basic foundation of any good relationship is complete honesty and communication. If they haven't had a conversation about the nature of their relationship by like the third date, then you're both idiots and you're doing it all wrong. They would be setting themselves up for disaster.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: TheouAegis on May 09, 2013, 12:14:10 AM
And that's when you lay it all down on the line for her, and say, "Thanks, you stupid bitch, for introducing me to your sister. What's for dinner, by the way?" HAHA I'm drunk and bowled a shitty ass four frames tonight cause I was trying to bowl 2-finger hooks for the first time ever tonight.

If the bitch is a fucking psycho and thinks your body is entirely hers, cheat her ass out of happiness by all means. I personally would have never cheated on my ex sexually -- maybe bite my lip and make Hannibal Lector impersonations toward other girls at most -- because I'm not the type of guy to cheat on a girl outright. If a girl cheated on me, I'd probably pound her face into a bloody mess, so I would expect the same from her and therefore wouldn't put either of us through that. As it is, my ex was just a selfish bitch and we broke up before any temptation crept in between us. Just think how you would feel if your bitch cheated on you. If it's a negative feeling that you get, then don't cheat on her; simple as that. That's my philosophy.

Although both Danny Bonaduce and I think Dr. Drew have both said that cheating leads to some of the best sex -- it gets your partner all worked up and rowdy. If your partner isn't interested in you as of late, they're obviously not cheating on you. That's what they've said. It makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Lone Wolf on May 11, 2013, 05:13:30 AM
Man... In my case, i wouldn't consider it definitely cheating, nor just cheat anyone like this, with the "pure" intention of making them sad.. Even if for revenge... No...
I'm just a bit confused with my emotions. Although i've been thinking too much on a girl these last days...
And i just can't take her out of my mind... I.. I think i love her, maybe?
But what is love? Is this love that i'm feeling? How do i know that?
Maybe.... Maybe i really, really, REALLY DO love her... I just can't get why.
Why doesn't she talk to me? And why the hell can't i just wait for her?
And then these two girls came... They seemed so nice.. I really think they're very nice, and it's not because of a lustful desire.
I mean, i still like them. As well. They're both amazing girls!
But, i don't know what to do.. Should i wait for my first girl? This one i can't stop thinking about?
Should i still keep these two relationships? And my feelings for them as well?
Or... Should i break it? Should i just kill it, give it a stop and focus on one only girl?
But man... What about them? I DO care about them, i don't wanna make them sad, nor disappointed... I don't want to make them suffer...
And i still keep thinking about her... And the distance between us.. The last time we talked.. Then she came at me and said "good night"..
She is still online, sometimes.. But she doesn't talk to me anymore.. Why? Is this something i did?
I still feel rejected seing that she doesn't talk to me, even when seing me online..
I know, she's got her problems... And then, maybe she's just having some time on Web so she could distract herself and forget about those real life problems of hers a little bit, nothing much...
Argh, maybe i just have to leave her alone for a while... But how longer should i wait until she's got on the mood to talk to me once again?
I DO know i should respect her privacy, and her freedom.. But.. I'm afraid.. That maybe she could forgive me.. Or maybe be sad with me, or maybe not feel well.. That something bad could happen to her, something i don't know about...
This damn worry.. And all this curiosity of mine... All this fear that she could never be able to come back and say "hi" again...
I miss her... I miss her so much..
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: uzo on May 11, 2013, 09:04:59 AM
You really are creepy. You know that, right?
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: X on May 11, 2013, 10:07:40 AM
He's only human and that's all anyone should ever expect out of another human being, especially those of the religious faith.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Ratty on May 11, 2013, 11:14:48 PM
Man... In my case, i wouldn't consider it definitely cheating, nor just cheat anyone like this, with the "pure" intention of making them sad.. Even if for revenge... No...
I'm just a bit confused with my emotions. Although i've been thinking too much on a girl these last days...
And i just can't take her out of my mind... I.. I think i love her, maybe?
But what is love? Is this love that i'm feeling? How do i know that?
Maybe.... Maybe i really, really, REALLY DO love her... I just can't get why.
Why doesn't she talk to me? And why the hell can't i just wait for her?
And then these two girls came... They seemed so nice.. I really think they're very nice, and it's not because of a lustful desire.
I mean, i still like them. As well. They're both amazing girls!
But, i don't know what to do.. Should i wait for my first girl? This one i can't stop thinking about?
Should i still keep these two relationships? And my feelings for them as well?
Or... Should i break it? Should i just kill it, give it a stop and focus on one only girl?
But man... What about them? I DO care about them, i don't wanna make them sad, nor disappointed... I don't want to make them suffer...
And i still keep thinking about her... And the distance between us.. The last time we talked.. Then she came at me and said "good night"..
She is still online, sometimes.. But she doesn't talk to me anymore.. Why? Is this something i did?
I still feel rejected seing that she doesn't talk to me, even when seing me online..
I know, she's got her problems... And then, maybe she's just having some time on Web so she could distract herself and forget about those real life problems of hers a little bit, nothing much...
Argh, maybe i just have to leave her alone for a while... But how longer should i wait until she's got on the mood to talk to me once again?
I DO know i should respect her privacy, and her freedom.. But.. I'm afraid.. That maybe she could forgive me.. Or maybe be sad with me, or maybe not feel well.. That something bad could happen to her, something i don't know about...
This damn worry.. And all this curiosity of mine... All this fear that she could never be able to come back and say "hi" again...
I miss her... I miss her so much..

Communication man.
Talk to this special girl, does she return the way you feel? If yes, then she probably wants to be exclusive, ask her if she does. If not, then decide if you want to be with one or both of the other girls. Talk to them, tell them truthfully how you feel about them and ask each if they want to be exclusive. This is a specific interpersonal question and not a general or philosophical question you're asking, talk to the people involved, not us. They will know how they feel about the situtation and their place in it a lot better than we ever could, and they deserve for you to be honest and frank with them.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Lone Wolf on May 12, 2013, 01:02:37 AM
You really are creepy. You know that, right?

I don't really expect for you to understand such a thing, though... So nvm..

He's only human and that's all anyone should ever expect out of another human being, especially those of the religious faith.

No, man.. Yes, i am human.. But it's not that simple.. And i'm not religious though.

Communication man.
Talk to this special girl, does she return the way you feel? If yes, then she probably wants to be exclusive, ask her if she does. If not, then decide if you want to be with one or both of the other girls. Talk to them, tell them truthfully how you feel about them and ask each if they want to be exclusive. This is a specific interpersonal question and not a general or philosophical question you're asking, talk to the people involved, not us. They will know how they feel about the situtation and their place in it a lot better than we ever could, and they deserve for you to be honest and frank with them.

I know. I didn't think i could do this alone, that's why i came here. I felt like i needed some support and see if maybe i could organize my ideas. :rollseyes:
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Now she doesn't really come very often. But when she does, she barely has the mood to do things around.
She doesn't even talk to me, even if i say 'hi'. I guess she's just busy and doesn't have much time then?
Yeah, maybe this. Maybe it's not a big deal, but it wouldn't hurt to at least care for her a bit, right?
And get worried about her.. Thank heavens, at least i'm careful with the people i love.. :rollseyes:
But, about being exclusive with one of them, i don't know..
She doesn't even know about the other two, and i don't think i can talk to her about it, even considering she's barely online... :/
I asked the second one, and she wouldn't mind if i had other girls, since i stayed with her as well..
I don't see anything bad on it either. I just don't want to make any of them sad.. Even if i had to, but they also have their opinions, and i must respect them as well.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Lone Wolf on May 12, 2013, 04:33:02 AM
Argh... Who do i want to lie to?
I freakin know that my feeling for her is different, special.
About the others, i dont really think i feel the same thing..
And i cant force myself to stay with them. Maybe as friends, but thats another thing. I would be lying to both girls, and myself as well. And my girl, too..
Yeah.. I should talk to them. I should be frantic with them. But i dont want to make them sad, i just dont want to live a lie, nor force them to it, either.
I think it's the best thing to do, surely.
Thanks for supporting me on this, guys. :)
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Ratty on May 12, 2013, 05:29:21 AM
Argh... Who do i want to lie to?
I freakin know that my feeling for her is different, special.
About the others, i dont really think i feel the same thing..
And i cant force myself to stay with them. Maybe as friends, but thats another thing. I would be lying to both girls, and myself as well. And my girl, too..
Yeah.. I should talk to them. I should be frantic with them. But i dont want to make them sad, i just dont want to live a lie, nor force them to it, either.
I think it's the best thing to do, surely.
Thanks for supporting me on this, guys. :)

Yes, all good relationships are built on honesty and trust, you can't have one without the other. Being honest and upfront with all of these girls is the right thing to do.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: uzo on May 12, 2013, 07:31:11 AM
I don't really expect for you to understand such a thing, though...

Argh... Who do i want to lie to?

Yeah. Can't say I understand such a thing.

I stand by my post.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Lone Wolf on May 12, 2013, 08:11:41 AM
Yeah. Can't say I understand such a thing.

I stand by my post.

That i'm creepy?
Yeah.. Nvm, ok?

Yes, all good relationships are built on honesty and trust, you can't have one without the other. Being honest and upfront with all of these girls is the right thing to do.

Yeah.. I know, Ratty. Thanks for the help, btw. :)
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: X on May 12, 2013, 09:52:19 AM
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No, man.. Yes, i am human.. But it's not that simple.. And i'm not religious though.

The statement I posted wasn't towards you Lone Wolf so I do apologize for the mix-up  :) I guess i should have worded it like this: Lone Wolf's only human and that's all anyone should ever expect out of another human being, especially those of the religious faith.
Title: Re: Infidelity
Post by: Lone Wolf on May 12, 2013, 12:08:22 PM
The statement I posted wasn't towards you Lone Wolf so I do apologize for the mix-up  :) I guess i should have worded it like this: Lone Wolf's only human and that's all anyone should ever expect out of another human being, especially those of the religious faith.

I know, i really meant to comment about it though. I understood what you said. :)
Btw, i talked to both of them. They totally understood me and are very okay with that. So i think things get back to normal, then. ;D
I'm happy that they're still okay with that.. And thanks again for supporting me on this guys. I really needed some company, wouldn't make it all by myself.. Thank you very much. :)