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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Pfil on May 17, 2013, 04:25:35 PM
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"Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is the best seller of the saga"
The producer of the outstanding Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, Dave Cox, has assured that this title developed by the spanish studio MercurySteam has become the best seller of the saga; which has encouraged them to work on its sequel to beat this mark.
In this sense, nevertheless, he recognizes that in Konami "they have realistic expectations" for Lords of Shadow 2; though in a humorous tone Dave Cox indicates that if the game sells 3,5 millions of copies worldwide, "I would dance naked on the street".
When talking about "realistic expectations", Cox references to recently published hack-and-slash sales, which experienced "dissapointing" sales, according to him.
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Original article (in spanish): http://www.3djuegos.com/noticia/133720/0/castlevania-lords-of-shadow/ventas/secuela/ (http://www.3djuegos.com/noticia/133720/0/castlevania-lords-of-shadow/ventas/secuela/)
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Not much to say about the article, personally.
Cox delights us again with his speeches, and spanish site "3DJuegos" can't be less, and praises "their" Castlevania. This web is one of the most complete in spanish, but when it comes to nationalism they remind me of "our" Skycaptain.
For example, they gave Mirror of Fate 9/10 (their highest Castlevania score ever), with a valoration of "Supreme", but they never reviewed Order of Ecclesia (amongst others), and on the site's description of the game they say the name of the heroine is "Shinoa".
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Lords of Shadow has a slight lead over Symphony of the Night in terms of retail sales, but if you count SotN's digital sales from the PSN and XBLA ---Lords of Shadow is probably still #2.
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He's also (unfairly) neglecting to mention that LoS is cross-platform (yes I know that XBL has SotN but you know what I mean) and that boost is what gives it its edge.
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Lords of Shadow was also had the honor of being part of the "PS3 Bundle" systems (like MGS4), so does that add anything to sales figures?
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LoS had more budget than all the other games combined too.
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SoTN was cross platform!
It was on the Saturn!
Eh? Eh? Nobody?
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He's also (unfairly) neglecting to mention that LoS is cross-platform (yes I know that XBL has SotN but you know what I mean) and that boost is what gives it its edge.
SotN has been on Playstation, Sega Saturn, PSP, Playstation 3, and Xbox 360. The game has also been around since 1997. Lords of Shadow's sales is pretty impressive, especially since it has only been around for a couple of years.
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I'm talking cross-platform at the height of its popularity or at release. SotN WAS indeed available on the Saturn, but the Saturn was a clear loser in the console wars (as opposed to the PS3/Xbox360/Wii war).
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Plus i think people have more purchasing power now than in 1997.
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Plus i think people have more purchasing power now than in 1997.
Gaming HAS seemingly become more mainstream, and LoS seems to be the most "mainstream" CV title of the entire franchise(or at least the most attune to mainstream taste).
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makes me wonder how loi would have sold if it was released on xb and gc alongside the ps2?
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Plus i think people have more purchasing power now than in 1997.
How easy is that to say though?
Economy was better, and gaming prices seemed lower from now, but adjusting for inflation and all that...
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makes me wonder how loi would have sold if it was released on xb and gc alongside the ps2?
It really is weird that LoI was never released for the Game Cube and Xbox. I wonder why it was a PS2 exclusive.
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Maybe some kind of Sony deal? After the N64 games, (and SoTN, which was ported to the Saturn in japan) all the console games were on Sony Consoles, with the handhelds on Nintendo handhelds. (Until DXC happened)
Maybe they had some kind of exclusivity deal with Sony that expired some time before Judgement? (as for handhelds, well until the PSP, Nintendo pretty much had the monopoly on handhelds... Then the PSP came out, with actual 3D graphical capability on a handheld)
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How easy is that to say though?
Economy was better, and gaming prices seemed lower from now, but adjusting for inflation and all that...
Not to my country. He that could afford a console, let an original copy of a game, must be was rich. I had a psx, but i couldn't afford to buy an original game, so i was renting them or i was buying a copy that it was still expensive. Also piracy was a big factor in poor sales back then.
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I would have to agree with Dark Nemesis.
Psx games were easy to burn on cds. And way back then not a lot of people can afford to spend money on games.
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It really is weird that LoI was never released for the Game Cube and Xbox. I wonder why it was a PS2 exclusive.
Because Gamecube sold like shit in Japan. XBOX was released much after the game, and after the low sales even on the PS2, there was no reason to release a port of it in other platform.
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To think I super enjoyed Curse of Darkness back in the day.
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Because Gamecube sold like shit in Japan.
Whoa what how did that happen? What made it be so poorly received?
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You've got more people buying games now with more buying options. Don't forget SotN's Saturn port was Japan-only because of the Saturn's extremely short life outside of Japan. (Well, in Japan to but especially outside of it.) And in '97 it was still the case that a lot of gamers were begging their parents for money to buy games. Whereas now the target market for games (outside of the app store/Nintendo) has shifted to a slightly older audience with their own disposable income.
Maybe some kind of Sony deal? After the N64 games, (and SoTN, which was ported to the Saturn in japan) all the console games were on Sony Consoles, with the handhelds on Nintendo handhelds. (Until DXC happened)
Maybe they had some kind of exclusivity deal with Sony that expired some time before Judgement? (as for handhelds, well until the PSP, Nintendo pretty much had the monopoly on handhelds... Then the PSP came out, with actual 3D graphical capability on a handheld)
This would not surprise me, Capcom had such a deal with Sony (and later Nintendo) pertaining to the Resident Evil series after all. It's the reason the real Resident Evil 3 was retitled "Code Veronica" while the spinoff "Nemesis" was re-designated as the 3rd entry. Because Sony had exclusive rights to numbered "main series" games and "Code Veronica" was set to be released on the Dreamcast. (Later updated/expanded into "Code Veronica: X" when ported to the PS2/Gamecube) This might also explain why when making console games for Nintendo during the Wii era Konami chose to make a fighting spinoff and a downloadable remake rather than a bonafide new entry.
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Whoa what how did that happen? What made it be so poorly received?
PS2 was simply better in terms of games.
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Whoa what how did that happen? What made it be so poorly received?
Kind of like the n64 and
PS2 was simply better in terms of games.
ps2 had a better library of games think about all those rpgs and action games .
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Why was the gamecube unpopular? It's pretty obvious.
- It came out last
- Did not play DVDs like the PS2 (probably it's biggest issue)
- Really small library of games, much less good ones
- No backwards compatibility to make up for low library of games, unlike the PS2
- Some people didn't like the wonky controller
- Mario Sunshine was less well received than Mario 64
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Gamecube pros:
- came in different colors
- lunchbox design
- cute mini-disc format
- Smash Bros. Melee, Resident Evil 0
- Mario Kart
- 4 friends can play with you & one another
- can fall on floor without breaking to pieces (depending on height)
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the gba player was cool. still waiting for a ds player
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Sony can't have had a full exclusivity deal for console Castlevanias. Curse of Darkness came out for Xbox, and it was the next game right after Lament. Prior to that, there was Chronicles for Playstation, and the two N64 games came out after Symphony.
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the gba player was cool. still waiting for a ds player
If they can do it ANYWHERE, they can certainly work in a function that allows Wii U to work that way. The controller already has a touchscreen function, imagine playing DoS and using the controller for the sealing? Sure, you won't have the Dual Screen, unless there's a key function where your tv and controller screens act as the dual screens(TV being top, controller functioning as the bottom), and depending on where the action is(and the touch sensitive moments), you can rotate the screens around, flip them(so the controller's screen is on the television and the television is on the controller) to your convenience. Damn, why don't Nintendo jump on this? There's a shit load of DS games I'd love to play on the Wii U. Or hell, even if they get certain companies to do an "updated"(kinda along the lines of the HD versions of PS2 games appearing on PS3, FFX-FFX-2 for instance) versions of their DS games, polished sprites and background art, and arranged music. THAT would rock(playing DoS of OoE and having it look SotN quality).
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It's true that the Gamecube wasn't a very popular system but it did have some great games. Mine were essentially the Metroid Prime series and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin snakes, which is only available for the gamecube. And I also really enjoyed the gba hook-up system. But I really did not like the controller design. Instead they should have stuck to their guns with a controller similar to the SNES pad. Heck, the classic controller for the Wii is a good example without making it a knock-off of SONY's Play Station controller.
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It doesn't really matter the pros of the Gamecube, the cons made it sell like shit. It was pretty much a niche system. It did have some great games, like Resident Evil 0 and RE:make.
And the worst... Wii U is actually selling even worse than the gamecube.
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It's pretty funny how GameCube and Xbox sold less, when games that came out for one of these systems and ps2, the cube/xbox versions were almost always better.
The one I remember was a tennis game for xbox and ps2. I had it, and my friend saw it and was like, that's pretty cool. Bought the ps2 version, the voice was different, mono tone and sounded like a reader program, colors/texture/model all looked shittier, ambience was worst (Crowded were cut out boards in the ps2, and low poly on xbox.)
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Sony can't have had a full exclusivity deal for console Castlevanias. Curse of Darkness came out for Xbox, and it was the next game right after Lament. Prior to that, there was Chronicles for Playstation, and the two N64 games came out after Symphony.
Sony might have opted out of renewing the contract after disappointing sales of Lament. Though I agree if such deals did take place they were surely less permanent than those seen on Resident Evil. Though 2 of the 3 Resident Evil games that were supposed to be exclusive (REmake, 0 and 4) still are Nintendo exclusive as I understand. It's really too bad that the popular wisdom in the industry until a few years ago said that 2D console games were "dead" if IGA were still working on the series I believe we'd be getting some nifty Metroidvanias on XBLA and PSN by now.
Gamecube pros:
- came in different colors
- lunchbox design
- cute mini-disc format
I've heard all of those qualities listed as negatives in the past. Though I personally am a fan of the color scheme and general aesthetics of the console, I think it made a lot of older players feel insecure. PS2 showed that there was more money to be made in a general media machine that happened to play games (I know my family bought a PS2 primarily because it was the cheapest DVD player on the market at the time.) while Nintendo bet on the dedicated gamer market. Small wonder Nintendo abandoned the "hardcore" gamers for a more casual audience with the Wii as betting on the smaller pony had lost them a ton the time before.
It's pretty funny how GameCube and Xbox sold less, when games that came out for one of these systems and ps2, the cube/xbox versions were almost always better.
The one I remember was a tennis game for xbox and ps2. I had it, and my friend saw it and was like, that's pretty cool. Bought the ps2 version, the voice was different, mono tone and sounded like a reader program, colors/texture/model all looked shittier, ambience was worst (Crowded were cut out boards in the ps2, and low poly on xbox.)
Yeah the Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2 while the Xbox was technically the most powerful system of the time even though it didn't show in the games as much iirc. It just that they didn't play DVDs so they had no chance to catch up.
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"I would dance naked on the street".
Dooming the game before it's even released.
Dave Cox, ladies and gentlemen.