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Title: Shin Dracula X
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 05, 2013, 03:08:19 PM
Anyone remember this unreleased title?
With the recent talk of older/unreleased/prototype titles, this one comes to mind.


Does anyone have the few screenshots, etc. that the game had?
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: Odile Kuronuma on June 05, 2013, 03:19:08 PM
*googles Shin Dracula X*

....Hmm
Castlevania Symphony of The Night - Alucard Is Interested In This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPsQnsOHflc#ws)
This was my reaction.
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: Abnormal Freak on June 05, 2013, 04:55:32 PM
These screenshots sure were a lot bigger in the 800x600/1024x768 days, ha ha.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg441%2F7439%2Fshinx1.gif&hash=86b9d94ef2d6be7d07045b6f0f1a7368b9ba798d) (https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg59%2F900%2Fshinx2.gif&hash=e7ad8ef47edd96ef798456591315cb2ecd83d0cc)

Wasn't this just a hoax, though?

Some sources even touted this around as a sprite from the game:

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg109%2F5748%2F2dsprites2.jpg&hash=2da542b7b6d78d90323a7a0360e9c1e2b47c7239)

Which was often shown alongside sprites from the 32X game.

D'moon apparently uploaded some slightly upsized (and embossed) versions:

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.inverteddungeon.com%2Fimages%2Fscreenshots%2Fshina.jpg&hash=a4f846ab7b2e82192057d7a091a27dd28f68e8ca) (https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.inverteddungeon.com%2Fimages%2Fscreenshots%2Fshinb.jpg&hash=a1b9f8d10ecf7837125980d49fcdd502f8585ffb)
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: superDioplus on June 05, 2013, 06:10:45 PM
I read somewhere that this is supposed to be a sequel to SOTN and a prequel to COTM, it even has Morris Baldwin in it...

But after some further search, this sequel/prequel thing seems to be a story that someone made up. As I recall, Richter did pass the whip directly to the Morris clan right? So it should have nothing to do with Morris Baldwin, regardless of the fact that the IGA timeline hasn't come up yet during COTM's release.
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: crisis on June 05, 2013, 06:20:27 PM
Pretty sure it was a hoax. Only thing we know is that story-wise the Belmonts passed the Holy Whip to the Morris' sometime during the 19th century, although it's still unknown whether it was actually Richiter or his heir (now that I think about it, Richiter was the last Belmont to wield it, we just have no idea who his heir was). This is the "grey area" of the timeline, which has yet to be filled with the finer details (other than Quincy defeating Dracula in 1897, obviously after Shanoa which I guesstimate to have been 30-50 years prior [OoE intentionally doesn't specify an exact year])

CotM should be and is viewed as a "stand-alone" game, separate from the canon timeline; the developers most likely intended to make a prequel game at one point due to certain elements in the story, but, y'know, things change.
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: GuyStarwind on June 05, 2013, 06:28:58 PM
From what I can tell in those pics it looks cool enough.
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: Super Waffle on June 05, 2013, 07:35:58 PM
I still want to see art based off of the Bloodletting Maria sprite.

http://images.wikia.com/castlevania/images/2/2d/Bloodletting_maria.gif (http://images.wikia.com/castlevania/images/2/2d/Bloodletting_maria.gif)

It looks SotN-ish.  Except cuter.  And pink.
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: Neobelmont on June 05, 2013, 08:34:23 PM
*googles Shin Dracula X*

....Hmm
Castlevania Symphony of The Night - Alucard Is Interested In This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPsQnsOHflc#ws)
This was my reaction.

That was cool.
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: Koutei on June 06, 2013, 12:25:52 AM
This is all I know.

http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,3046.msg61502.html#msg61502 (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,3046.msg61502.html#msg61502)
真 (Shin - True, Not New) DraculaX was "fake image joke". of fan site in Japan.
It was obviously written, "fake".

Someone exposed it to an English site.
(The person might not have been able to read the word of Japan)
The joke image has changed in quality to a malignant lie.
It was not a situation for which the author had hoped.
To avoid confusing, the author deleted the image.
And, Legends graphic hack (http://web.archive.org/web/20091019104104/http://uk.geocities.com/xzs92vjd2/sayoben.html) (Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ja&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20091019104104%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fuk.geocities.com%2Fxzs92vjd2%2Fsayoben.html)) This is the same person's work.

Some sources even touted this around as a sprite from the game:

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg109%2F5748%2F2dsprites2.jpg&hash=2da542b7b6d78d90323a7a0360e9c1e2b47c7239)

Which was often shown alongside sprites from the 32X game.
It's IGA's "Vampire Hunter Dot Art Collection".
http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Castlevania:_The_Bloodletting#Interviews (http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Castlevania:_The_Bloodletting#Interviews)
http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/File:Dot.jpg (http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/File:Dot.jpg)
KONAMI official work.
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: X on June 06, 2013, 12:41:17 AM
I remember hearing about Shin Dracula X back when I was still in junior high school. CotM had not even been thought up yet, let alone the gameboy advance system. From what with the rumors going around at the time, this title was to be the official American release of the Japanese game 'Rondo' while others have stated it was a sequel to Rondo. regardless of it being afake or not, Shin Dracula X was in existence before the gameboy advance came along.
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: Pfil on June 06, 2013, 05:48:44 AM
I still want to see art based off of the Bloodletting Maria sprite.

http://images.wikia.com/castlevania/images/2/2d/Bloodletting_maria.gif (http://images.wikia.com/castlevania/images/2/2d/Bloodletting_maria.gif)

It looks SotN-ish.  Except cuter.  And pink.
Totally!

Anyway, I didn't know about this game until I read it an hour ago in Jorge's comment on another topic.
It looks very interesting.
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 07, 2013, 01:11:04 PM
Well Koutei has confirmed that it was just a joke and an accidental hoax.
Still, good little history there, no?
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: Maedhros on June 07, 2013, 02:43:54 PM
It looks awesome, anyway.
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: Pumpkin Glow on June 09, 2013, 08:17:19 PM
depressing hoax at the time.  atleast we live in the present where we have a great sequel to SotN....  :-\
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: RichterB on June 10, 2013, 04:08:48 AM
I remember this. It actually got as far as magazine coverage with those two screens. Honestly, fake or not, it looked great...perhaps better than any 2D Castlevania post-SotN to date. There's a sense of classic danger to the level design, as well as SCVIV-like over-the-top SFX.

A similar hoax to this in more recent times was CV: Dual Moons.
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: Pumpkin Glow on June 11, 2013, 10:15:18 AM
depressing hoax at the time.  atleast we live in the present where we have a great sequel to SotN....  :-\

geez. what a cynical bastard
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: Gunners Heaven on June 29, 2013, 09:35:11 AM
I think the dismay of people regarding the sequel with the son of John Morris deals with the large chunk of plot not explained. Richter was the last recognized holder of the whip so someone or something happened after him and leaves a big blank spot as to what happened.Also, konami has not given an indication as to ever explaining this. Generally, they have been great as far as keeping an over arching story and giving the characters personality the sudden drop is just weird. Hopefully, they will go back and explain it. Given Richer under the control of magic when he fought Alucard and the whip remembers him as the last user it wasn't him. Either the whip was stolen after Richter's death or it was passed to someone who did something horrible with the whip.
Title: Re: Shin Dracula X
Post by: thernz on June 30, 2013, 01:56:48 AM
geez. what a cynical bastard
the radio drama was wonderful