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Title: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Maedhros on August 11, 2013, 12:17:40 AM
As the title implies. This title has two best uses of platforming on the series. The third and fourth stage for example. Too bad the controls are so bad, making them really tiresome without savestates or patient. I don't remember other CV with so much emphasys on platforming, except 3.

Just finished the game. I was bored.
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Dracula9 on August 11, 2013, 12:28:20 AM
Since I bought a copy the other day, I've been thinking the same thing. Though, I only really find the low framerate a problem during the horizontal-spike-wall sections, due to Chris walking so damn slow. I still love stage three, though.
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: X on August 11, 2013, 12:33:11 AM
Playing this game on an emulator helps Chris move just that much faster. But before I had the internet I was doing this on my Super gameboy. F**k was it difficult! And stage 3 was the most notorious monster of the whole game for me.
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Pfil on August 11, 2013, 09:13:57 AM
I really enjoy CVA for what it is.
And the music is so awesome!
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Nagumo on August 11, 2013, 10:01:02 AM
I always enjoy playing the third and fourth stage of this game. I wish the atmosphere was a little better, then I probably would have enjoyed it more.     
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Ratty on August 11, 2013, 07:36:12 PM
Yep. Love the music and graphics in this one but the sluggish controls just kill it.
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Inccubus on August 12, 2013, 04:43:56 AM
It's a lot better with the walking speed hack. Also not loosing your whip power when you get hit helps a lot.
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Aridale on August 12, 2013, 12:23:46 PM
yeah thats the only way to play this game. Makes a world of difference
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Ratty on August 12, 2013, 04:32:01 PM
Eh, I couldn't enjoy that. Even though the game is broken because of those bad design decisions, fixing them would feel like cheating.
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Pfil on August 12, 2013, 04:39:56 PM
It's nice to improve the gameplay using several techniques, but my personal belief is that it's a nice experience to play it like the developers intended.
Then, we can stop if our skills ar not enough (it happened to me a lot of times), but at least I give it a try at first.
In the case of CVA, I could finish it without cheating. Some other times, like with Circle of the Moon arena stage, or some extra modes like Albus Mode in OoE, Max LV 1 in PoR, or The Forgotten One in LoI, I just couldn't do it.
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Neobelmont on August 12, 2013, 04:49:00 PM
level 3 kills me that scaling part dang... reached the top once... once
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Lelygax on August 12, 2013, 05:00:17 PM
*reads this*
Quote from: Pfil on August 12, 2013, 04:39:56 PM
...or some extra modes like Albus Mode in OoE, Max LV 1 in PoR...

OMG, I've forgotten again, thanks! I'll return playing my Albus save today xD
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 12, 2013, 05:00:25 PM
(mostly joking)
Maybe you guys should accept the game for what it is and accept that you're terrible at it. :P :P :P :P :P
C'mon, 'fixing' the walking is cheating.  Anticipate the problems the game has and work to beat it with those limitations.

Or, accept that "I am terrible at this game because I cannot adapt".  I will agree that the game could be better in terms of what's going on in the movement controls, but it's not like it's unplayable.  We have many people who've finished these games in their original state.

Kids these days... Get Off My Lawn!  :P :P :P
/(mostly joking)
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Pfil on August 12, 2013, 05:10:50 PM
That's what I intended to say, kind of  :P
Sometimes I just can't do it, but at least try.
As you said, the game is not that unplayable.
I'm not an expert, and I could beat it without help.
Am I getting too old?  :P
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 12, 2013, 05:12:53 PM
My lady, if you're old, then I'm the Great Deku Tree.
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Lelygax on August 12, 2013, 05:38:08 PM
Quote from: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 12, 2013, 05:12:53 PM
My lady, if you're old, then I'm the Great Deku Tree.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlBugeTr.png&hash=de9e8551afd86e04f5bbd9149488ac5835857049)

Sorry, couldn't resist xD
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 12, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
That was an unexpected use of that sprite.
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Pfil on August 12, 2013, 06:09:49 PM
Quote from: Jorge D. Fuentes on August 12, 2013, 05:12:53 PM
My lady, if you're old, then I'm the Great Deku Tree.
Haha! Men are like wine, the age improves them  ;)
You are young, anyway. But I tried to express that I'm starting to sound like my grandma, with complain to another (younger?) people, in this case, gamers.
Maybe I've been playing games for too long, because I started when I was like 6 years old.
But sometimes I feel that I am more a retro gamer or a veteran gamer than a young one... I don't know  :P
Is that good?

Quote from: Lelygax on August 12, 2013, 05:38:08 PM
Sorry, couldn't resist xD
I bet you quoted Cristoph Waltz from the Django Unchained movie, am I right?
Beautiful quote, by the way!
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Lelygax on August 12, 2013, 06:30:02 PM
Quote from: Pfil on August 12, 2013, 06:09:49 PM
I bet you quoted Cristoph Waltz from the Django Unchained movie, am I right?
Beautiful quote, by the way!

Haha, so you noticed it?

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Pfil on August 12, 2013, 09:49:20 PM
Cristoph Waltz in one of the best actors currently in Hollywood, in my opinion.
His movies are always great and his characters always the best in each movie, so far.
That quote is from a key moment in Django Unchained.
Other great films featuring him in important roles are Inglourious Basterds, Carnage and Water for Elephants.

And there I am, again, derailing the thread... I swear it's not on purpose!  :P
If there existed some award like The Great Derailer (with PoR's train as icon), I would surely have it.
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Lelygax on August 12, 2013, 10:00:09 PM
Quote from: Pfil on August 12, 2013, 09:49:20 PM
And there I am, again, derailing the thread... I swear it's not on purpose!  :P
If there existed some award like The Great Derailer (with PoR's train as icon), I would surely have it.

Dont even mention it, I do it all the time but its not on purpose too, its because I like to appreciate every little detail of a conversation, so it becomes less robotic.
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Pfil on August 12, 2013, 10:30:13 PM
Quote from: Lelygax on August 12, 2013, 10:00:09 PM
so it becomes less robotic.
CONCEPT > UNDERSTOOD
If(ConceptUnderstood)True.
Then>+1(Points)add>previous.post
Success.
EndOfBoxDialogue.
QUIT.
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: Lelygax on August 12, 2013, 10:51:37 PM
Quote from: Pfil on August 12, 2013, 10:30:13 PM
CONCEPT > UNDERSTOOD
If(ConceptUnderstood)True.
Then>+1(Points)add>previous.post
Success.
EndOfBoxDialogue.
QUIT.

CONCEPT > MISUNDERSTOOD
If(ConceptUnderstood)False.
Then>-1(Points)add>previous.post
Success.
EndOfBoxDialogue.
RAGEQUIT.

:P
Title: Re: CVA have some good stages there, too bad the controls and framerate kills them
Post by: DoctaMario on August 14, 2013, 04:51:29 AM
I owned a hard copy of this and was so excited to have a CV game for my GameBoy that I was willing to overlook how slowly Chris walked. The funny part was that he JUMPED kinda fast considering how slowly he walked. I think this game has excellent level design though and it's be cool to see it remade and gussied up a bit!