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Off Topic => Off Topic => Topic started by: VladCT on August 22, 2013, 08:07:11 PM
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/07/unauthorized-streaming-felony_n_3720479.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/07/unauthorized-streaming-felony_n_3720479.html)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/05/sopa-died-in-2012-but-obama-administration-wants-to-revive-part-of-it/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/05/sopa-died-in-2012-but-obama-administration-wants-to-revive-part-of-it/)
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130805/12472124074/administration-cant-let-go-wants-to-bring-back-felony-streaming-provisions-sopa.shtml (https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130805/12472124074/administration-cant-let-go-wants-to-bring-back-felony-streaming-provisions-sopa.shtml)
SOPA Has Returned, Time to Kill it Again (Spread the Word, Petition in Description) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fTt4K4Cae4#)
Jeez, it's like freaking Lord Dracula, only this time we're dealing with something that's definitely lousy.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-sopa-2013/LMzMVrQF (https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-sopa-2013/LMzMVrQF)
Shame I can't sign that one, seeing as I'm not American and all.
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Thanks for helping us be aware this is happening. I our best hope for another delay to this insane travesty of justice is for Google and Amazon to protest again.
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Well I'm not an American either but I would definitely like to sign that petition. Any kind of group like SOPA or PIPA that promotes this bulls**t against the rights and freedoms of others should be put to the sword. They don't know what they are talking about and they don't know us, let alone what's best for us. I also find many religions have this same problem. They can't learn to leave well enough alone and fail to even remotely try to understand everyone else. So instead they dictate what's right and what isn't. That in my mind is deserving of a bullet in the head.
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That's how the hustle is played. One gets turned down, it becomes back slightly altered. They'll hammer it until it goes through.
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Its Obama pulling the strings if you ask me. We have evidence showing that he wants to lower privacy and this sort of things.
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I wouldn't really call it 'evidence'.
I disagree. I don't think it's him.
I'm against SOPA and PIPA though.
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Yet, it is true that privacy is progresively fading away each day in this world.
It really annoys me the way they know everything and how everything is registered everywhere.
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I'm ONLY going to throw these two cents in and nothing more before this turns politically ugly real quick.
Obama's really in the position Hoover was. He inherited most of his problems, and the few things he's done the public doesn't like get blown up like mad and nothing else matters. It's the same shit every four years. The public loves the new guy, and as soon as he starts changing shit, they hate him, and bitch about him until his term's up. Then, another new guy comes along promoting change and everybody thinks he's real swell. And the process repeats.
As for privacy, that's been slowly ebbing away for decades. The invention of the Internet's just helped speed it up, is all. Limitless information flow and anonymity are as much of a curse as they are a blessing.
Regardless of who's pulling the strings or not pulling the strings, this whole thing's outrageous. Much as I hate to admit it, A-ty's right. It's only a matter of time before the top brass gives it the green light.
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It not Obama, but it is very easy to blame him. I won't because unlike the ignorant masses out there I've got a little more Knowledge about America's governmental system. There are three levels of government in America. The first is the government everyone knows about. The second is those who handle things like Plausible deniability, cover-ups regarding things like UFOs (the Roswell incident) and such. Then there's the third level of government who absolutely nobody should know about (mainly the two other levels of government). They are known as the 'BBB' or Black Budget Boys. They are apparently a secret club that has global influences. I have no-doubt that they also want the New World Order and that this 'stripping' of peoples' rights and freedoms a little bit at a time, is just the start of it.
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So you are saying that MIB was a satire of BBB without no one knowing?
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So you are saying that MIB was a satire of BBB without no one knowing?
The MIBs belong to the second level of government as they are a part of the UFO conspiracy. The BBBs are beyond that. They have no-doubt in the past influenced the world's stage to their liking and they are still doing it even as I write this up.
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Start a political debate and be sure that X would bring up conspiracy theories. Good lord.
Only thing I can say is that you should value your privacy, but know that other matters are for consideration. Like security.
Find out that someone reads your e-mail or listens to your phone calls, everyone goes crazy.
Hear a story about a pedophile or a terrorist caught after tracking down his calls, everybody cheers.
Orwellian conspiracies? New world order? Don't believe in it. You know why? I have my own evidence: government agencies, especially American ones, are not effective. They are too competitive, selfish and are not reluctant enough to cooperate to pull off any evil conspiracies. Back in ancient times conspiracies were all hush-hush and even then they were exposed quite often . Today in a world where confidential information is easily and often leaked, secrecy is an illusion. You see? The destruction of privacy works both ways.
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It isn't so much a crackpot conspiracy thing, Freddy. With how much American government kisses corporate ass and the frightening power the big-business CEOs hold, it's a fair assumption that the country's long since been bought. Shit hasn't been right for generations. The Presidential Roulette shuffle has never actually produced someone who's brought anything to a point of truly being fixed. Voting doesn't really matter if you aren't in an electoral state, and even that seems fishy. Corporate bailouts are commonplace and no bigwig corporate CEO ever gets in the hot seat. Too many red flags exist to ignore the possibility (though as far as I'm concerned it may as well be fact).
There may or may not be some New World Order Manifest Destiny regime going on, but whether there is or not, I don't really care. If there isn't, we're still in a shithole. If there is, it's so far behind the scenes we'll never know the answer, and we're still stuck in a shithole. It doesn't matter either way, though it's fun to discuss just because it gives us a moment of thinking we've figured everything out.
And America in particular on the world stage is a fucking HAVEN for double standards. They're not going anywhere for a long time.
And I'm just gonna toss the Metal Gear Solid system of control used by the Patriots on the table. Just because it's relevant and lightens the mood a bit.
yeah i totally lied about that not saying any more thing
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The Great Noodly One has deemed it so!
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Owch! Shiver me timbers! :o
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With how much American government kisses corporate ass and the frightening power the big-business CEOs hold, it's a fair assumption that the country's long since been bought.
That's not a conspiracy, that's politics. Whoever has more money and power is in control. In fact, according to the great political scientist Schumpeter, that is the meaning of representative democracy:
For Schumpeter voters should first elect their representatives and the representatives themselves would choose what they think the best policy is. The representatives would compete for the votes of the voters like firms compete for customers. Thus Schumpeter likens Democracy to a free market mechanism where parties (firms) have to offer to electorate (the customers) the best policy in order to win their votes. The voters are free to decide on their representatives and they can be demanding. If parties fail to deliver they would lose votes on the next elections. So we arrive at Schumpeter's definition of Democracy: "And we define: the democratic method is that institutional arrangement for arriving at political
decisions in which individuals acquire the power to decide by means of a
competitive struggle for the people’s vote." (Schumpeter 2003:269).
Now the problem with America is that the majoritarian election system created a two-party system in which voters have only two reasonable choices, which is complete bulls**t of course. A third party stands no chance in that system.
As for Corporate bailouts, that's more a question of economy than politics (though the two are interconnected) but the recent economic crisis presented situations in which the US government bailed some companies out and others when it let them go bankrupt. It's a difficult argument when you try to separate economy from politics (practically impossible).
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I think modern times and all that's going on should be enough to re-evaluate what is a conspiracy theory and what is thinking that you may disregard as crap because of an attitude which you can't fully say originated from your own, fairly unaffected deductions.
There exists a number of crackpot ramblings. For example; that lizard men are stealthily taking over the world. But then there are reasonable ones that to some people, still get labeled as make-believe conspiracy nonsense. JFK and 9/11 are good American examples.
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Wow... this is random... but.... Lizardmen are stealthily taking over the world. That's the plot of Vindictus, the MMO. I shit you not.
Politics is a load a ass crap. I don't know what I want to happen, but I want something to happen. I almost want them dead, but at the same time, it feels extreme.
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Well, it's happening alright.
Facebooks Mark Zuckerberg is an Alien! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DygfBiyEu3A#)
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I almost want them dead, but at the same time, it feels extreme.
Wanting them dead is simply a quick mental picture relief and a distancing from thinking about all that for a second. A creative pause, if you will. Doing something to get them dead is when it gets extreme.
Killing politicians is like stomping on cockroaches. It may feel like you're doing something useful, but the reality is your house is infested with them and another will show up in no time.
I think that there are people who become politicians for the primary motivation of doing good and putting in an effort to genuinely maintain and better society. Most of these people get ruined by the game the scavengers and rodents wearing suits play. The ones who don't mostly have their efforts and presence trivialized or ignored.
But this has always been the case. Only thing changing is the world around these people. I like to think it means more people get more aware of what's going on.
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There are some people who mean well when they are not with power, but give them power, then they turn into the same guys they hated before.
The power of the majority might not be enough to persuade evil people in power. Sheeple can be swayed.
Awareness will only work with a few because those in power will always try to maintain status quo.
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Awareness will only work with a few because those in power will always try to maintain status quo.
That is why there needs to be more.
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I didn't say it was a conspiracy, Freddy. I was defending X's post context from your accusations of it being so.
"Freedom" or awareness. Take your pick. This system's a crock regardless.
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I prefer freedom, if they want awareness they should choose other surveillance ways, not intrusive ones that involve internet, cellphones and cable boxes.
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cable boxes.
LOL
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I prefer freedom, if they want awareness they should choose other surveillance ways, not intrusive ones that involve internet, cellphones and cable boxes.
You also forgot about the XBOX 180.
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"You are free to do something when nobody intentionally prevents you from doing it."
Classic liberal definition of freedom. Learned it in a contemporary philosophy course. ;D
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What they should choose is to fuckin' follow the laws, like they expect other people to.
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What they should choose is to fuckin' follow the laws, like they expect other people to.
^THIS^
Thats what I try to say, they try to enforce law on us but dont even follow them. We cant put cameras inside the White House and watch them for example. They are normal people like us, so they are suspect too (Im not pointing fingers, they are).