You all know what happened: desperate to reunite Castlevania with its literary inspiration, Konami had chosen to name Bloodlines’ next whip-wielding hero ‘John Morris’, in honor of his famed father, Quincey Morris, from Bram Stoker’s Dracula.
Yet by doing so Konami created one of Castlevania’s most glaring plot holes: what was a “Morris” doing in a world so dominated by the Belmont lineage? And why would this complete stranger be the inheritor of Leon’s legendary whip?
“Well, explained Konami, the Morris family actually has some vague ties with the Belmonts, that we don’t really care to specify.”
But then why, asked fans, didn’t the era’s actual Belmont use the whip? Why would he accept for its power to be delegated? Was it true, like some conspiracy theorists advanced, that the Belmont bloodline had finally died off?
Enter the prophecy: “Until 1999, no Belmont Shall Touch the Whip,” quoth Nostradamus, or some other foolish augur. Ergo, Shanoa, ergo Morris and Lecarde.
"But why, might again have asked Jonathan in a different life, why couldn't any Belmont use the whip? For what reason were humanity’s greatest champions barred from the weapon they so cherished?” Eric Lecarde, somber, would have turned his head and remained silent, for this answer yet remains a mystery...
And yet it is to you I now turn, loyal fans, to solve it once and for all.
Between Richter and Julius, what devilish device, what malignant curse had kept the Belmonts away? What happened during the "Era of no Belmont"?
Allow me to elaborate. The reason why the Morris' family was chosen to heir the whip was due to the fact that Richter Belmont became tainted by evil and controlled by the dark priest Shaft (i.e SoTN.) This tainted the Belmont bloodline with darkness.
I think this part is wrong, Soleiyu says hello.
Ironically, John Morris had no ties to the Belmont family until PoR, which was unnecessary because Nathan Graves can wield the VK without any blood ties to Belmonts.
I always tend to believe whatever happened with Richter, it happened after SotN. That's just my belief.
I think it was just a girl got married. That's the most plausible and doesn't require any metaphysical hokey malarkey to explain. Madame Belmond was wed to Monsieur Morris and the bloodline was kept strong giggity.That's exactly my point, we don't need more explanations than just that simple fact.
Its shown in Radio Drama that Richter is doing well and using the whip without problems after SotN, so it must be something else other than this brainwash thing.It would have to be something AFTER that. There could've been something that took place after the radio drama(perhaps that cancelled IGA Alucard game).
What are you waiting, stupid lazy Konami? >:(
It would have to be something AFTER that. There could've been something that took place after the radio drama(perhaps that cancelled IGA Alucard game).
Lords of Shadow 2.
Do you guys think that we will get the cancelled Alucard game developed by a new studio around a year after LoS 2 is released?
Do you guys think that we will get the cancelled Alucard game developed by a new studio around a year after LoS 2 is released?Some people are still hoping for this? I'm pretty sure it's dead and burried since the development of LoS1.
Do you guys think that we will get the cancelled Alucard game developed by a new studio around a year after LoS 2 is released?
Konami's opinion on the matter:The image made me imagine this is ending to Igrashi Castlevania or Mercury Steam Castlevania but with Castlevania characters :P.
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That's a perfect opportunity to have a game explaining that.
What are you waiting, stupid lazy Konami? >:(
That's a perfect opportunity to have a game explaining that.
What are you waiting, stupid lazy Konami? >:(
But I didn't mention Iga, I even speculated about the Alucard game developed by a new studio.
I don't think he made pointless sequels, but imagine he did, OK. We still can have a game happening in that time period explaining the events which are we currently guessing about in this thread.
I think the essence of what it is can make a very compelling story.
I think they were pretty clear about what the Whip's Memory is. Like the description says it's nothing more than a manifestation of the whip's memory of it's last wielder. Now the fact that both John and possibly Quincy used the whip before Jonathan infers that the last wielder means the last Belmont wielder. This is further evidenced by the need of a ritual for Jonathan to be able to use the whip at any measure of it's full potential without it outright killing him.
But I didn't mention Iga, I even speculated about the Alucard game developed by a new studio.
I don't think he made pointless sequels, but imagine he did, OK. We still can have a game happening in that time period explaining the events which are we currently guessing about in this thread.
I think the essence of what it is can make a very compelling story.
More questions? From a point of view, that's good. It means more games, more soundtracks...
More items for our collections!Playing life with Game Genie :P
I believe more questions are fun since it allows us to exercise our minds. If everything has an answer, then wouldn't life be boring?
But I didn't mention Iga, I even speculated about the Alucard game developed by a new studio.
Indeed, they created more questions, but listening to Curse of Darkness and Order of Eclessia soundtracks so frequently, I would never say those games were pointless, or any other CV game for that matter.
Not to mention that, apart from listening to CV music every day, all those are games that I love to play again from time to time.
More questions? From a point of view, that's good. It means more games, more soundtracks...
I meant story wise. Story wise, the games are pointless. They didn't progress the story...at all. I'm all for some mysteries in video games but something important as to why there were no Belmonts around to go up against Dracula at that time should not be a mystery.
Reinhardt Schneider was originally intended to be a Belmont, but changed to a distant relative, for awhile these game weren't canon until CoTM...
Ironically, John Morris had no ties to the Belmont family until PoR, which was unnecessary because Nathan Graves can wield the VK without any blood ties to Belmonts.
In reality: IGA took advantage of the situation and made the non-Belmont era, for awhile it was interesting until the constant phoning in on the 1999 thing...
In Games: Somehow Ritcher cursed the Bloodline from using the Whip in SoTN, thus Creating the Era.
It would have made more sense if the Vampire Killer was exhausted of its power either by Richter outputting so much power or by that concentrated era of resurrections, or something else that makes more sense....
Actually the whip that Nathan wields is not Vampire Killer, it's a similar whip name the Hunter Whip, you know like the Undead Killer in PoR.
Sounds like something Platinum Games could do. ;)And I'd totally support that if it turns out to be like Bayonetta.
Oh, I see.
I meant story wise. Story wise, the games are pointless. They didn't progress the story...at all. I'm all for some mysteries in video games but something important as to why there were no Belmonts around to go up against Dracula at that time should not be a mystery.
Actually the whip that Nathan wields is not Vampire Killer, it's a similar whip name the Hunter Whip, you know like the Undead Killer in PoR.Another Portrait of Ruin fan! Yay!!! ;D
Aren't most of the protagonists already counted as such? I mean except for Shanoa there isn't really any question for the others since they're either partners that don't wield the Vampire Killer or they are members of families indirectly related to the Belmont line.Not quite. Alucard, Eric, Nathan, Soma, Charlotte, Hector, Shanoa.... For the sake of naming a few. Unless that's what you mean by "partners that don't wield the VK".
My theory is that all protagonists are descendants of the Belmonts but they don't know it. :PThe next major CV plot twist:
And speaking of continuities, why don't we just implement our own "Dungeon Timeline", just for the hell of it?
One of my theories involves memory loss. The Belmont remnants in Order of Ecclesia forgot about their monster hunting past. Julius forgot he was a Belmont before Aria of Sorrow, why not before the Battle of 1999 as well? I also suspect it might have been an intentional memory loss, perhaps figuring that the only way the family could follow the rules of that prophesy and "never touch the whip" until 1999 (why, I don't have any theories on) would be to forget who they were. It is also "nice" that after so many centuries, the Belmonts "get a break" and let someone else do the heavy lifting, while they live out their lives in obscurity for a while.
Reinhardt Schneider was originally intended to be a Belmont, but changed to a distant relative, for awhile these game weren't canon until CoTM...
Ironically, John Morris had no ties to the Belmont family until PoR, which was unnecessary because Nathan Graves can wield the VK without any blood ties to Belmonts.
The image made me imagine this is ending to Igrashi Castlevania or Mercury Steam Castlevania but with Castlevania characters :P.In that video there's a Penguin with a nametag that says "Pen."
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