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Title: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: JILost on September 10, 2013, 12:46:10 AM
They're all essentially four (well really more like 3 1/2) versions of the same game; which version do you prefer?

For me, it's a tough call. The NES game obviously has the most nostalgia for me (it was my first CV, back in 1989) and set the stage for every ClassicVania to come; Vampire Killer was (for me) a mish-mash of Castlevania and Simon's Quest (which I also love); X68K took a lot of my favorite parts of Castlevania (right down to a few of the stages themselves) and made them prettier and with better music; and Chronicles had improved versions of a few of my favorite songs from X68K and Hairband Simon. Overall, though, I'd have to say the NES game, because it brings me the most nostalgia and is the one I'm most consistently able to play all the way through without getting tired of playing it.

And yes, I know Castlevania IV is technically yet another remake, but it's not nearly as similar to the original as the others I listed. (And besides that, if IV were included, the question itself would be completely needless.)
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Intersection on September 10, 2013, 10:03:59 AM
You've missed some games here.

Haunted Castle was actually the first Castlevania out there. It's absolutely terrible; but it was, after all, an arcade game.

There are also a few direct ports of CV1: there's one for the DOS, another for the Commodore 64. And then there's the Commodore Amiga version, with its famed Pinocchio/Mole Dracula.

But I've cast my vote, of course, for the noble NES Castlevania; it stands as an undeniable monument to the series' glory.
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: X on September 10, 2013, 11:57:10 AM
Super Castlevania IV was also a CV 1 remake. Don't forget that one.
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Pfil on September 10, 2013, 01:38:10 PM
Chronicles for PSX.
But you forgot about Haunted Castle and Super Castlevania IV.
They aren't more different to the original CV than Chronicles and X68000.
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Lelygax on September 10, 2013, 04:20:41 PM
Chronicles.
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Abnormal Freak on September 10, 2013, 05:53:08 PM
Haunted Castle was actually the first Castlevania out there. It's absolutely terrible; but it was, after all, an arcade game.

Um? Castlevania, Vampire Killer, and Castlevania II all came before it (unless you're stating something else).

There's no mistaking that the Famicom Disk System Akumajo Dracula is the first ever game in the series, conceptually and otherwise.
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Intersection on September 11, 2013, 08:19:44 AM
Ah, you'll have to excuse me there.
It seems I'd misread the games' release dates when I last looked at them. I thought it was strange.
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Beaumont_Belmont on September 11, 2013, 09:03:38 AM
I have to go with the original Castlevania (or IV, if that's allowed).
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Bloodreign on September 11, 2013, 11:56:20 AM
Normally I'd go with CV 1 NES but this time I chose X68K AkdraX68. It took the original game and expanded on it with beautiful sprites, grand music, and some new ideas without changing the formula of the original vision whatsoever.

Though CV 1 will always be in my game collection, AkdraX68K in original format is on a PC too expensive to own and the game itself isn't cheap (so I emulate it). Yes CV Chronicles is a port of the game, but I hear even the original mode tinkered with things, the difficulty, and the creepy dolls don't talk like in the original (this second one I know for sure).
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Pfil on September 11, 2013, 12:27:22 PM
I played Chronicles on the Playstation on both modes, but I never emulated it.
So, if they changed stuff in the original mode, it seems there's still a CV game I've been missing...
I will have to emulate it  :)
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Lelygax on September 11, 2013, 01:23:36 PM
I played Chronicles on the Playstation on both modes, but I never emulated it.
So, if they changed stuff in the original mode, it seems there's still a CV game I've been missing...
I will have to emulate it  :)

Same thing here. Let me know if you find something about that, I will do the same, even if PM should be needed. :)
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Pfil on September 11, 2013, 01:29:21 PM
Okey dokey!  :)
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Bloodreign on September 11, 2013, 04:11:30 PM
Well I don't emulate Chronicles, I own two versions of it, US and PAL.  ;D
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Pfil on September 11, 2013, 04:18:00 PM
I own Chronicles, but I want to try the X68000 version, if I can find some emulator capable of doing it.
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: JR on November 23, 2013, 09:49:01 PM
Never thought of it before, but probably the X68000 version, for the same reasons Bloodreign stated. I also liked the few creepy/weird touches they added to some of the levels (bodies "drowning" in a blank canvas, the illusory wall, the fetuses, etc.)

I never knew they changed a few things in the Chronicles release. Now I want an external floppy drive.
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: X on November 24, 2013, 11:01:03 AM
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(bodies "drowning" in a blank canvas

I don't think they were all drowning. Some of those women were hand-gesturing at you to come and join them for a swim. Which I found creepy too.
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Claimh Solais on November 24, 2013, 12:39:01 PM
I still hold the first Castlevania to be the best of Simon's adventures that aren't Simon's Quest (though that particular game isn't exactly on of my favorite CVs either). I find the first one even better than Super Castlevania IV, which was a game I felt was dragged down by a lot of the reasons Egoraptor stated in Sequelitis (too easy, useless subweapons, overpowered yet underused whip mechanics, etc).
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: beingthehero on March 26, 2014, 09:25:39 AM
My avatar makes it pretty obvious to which one I prefer. I've always dug Simon's redesign. He looks fierce, with the yellow eyes and coyote fur. Even MercurySteam liked the design enough to evoke it in MoF.

Plus the arrange mode's music is pretty good, and the graphical overhauls like having the entire background of stage 3 changed to SotN-like quality and animating the sky in Stage 8. I just wish they went further, like touching up stage 6's graphics. The first part is good, but the bland green background leading up to the Simon doppelganger could've used some work.

I Some of those women were hand-gesturing at you to come and join them for a swim. Which I found creepy too.

I always thought they were trying to get you to help them, like the prisoners shouting for help to Simon in the dungeon stage. Except Simon just pimps on by. That's pretty stone cold of him.

Also bloodreign-kun, I've both a physical copy of Chronicles and cvx68k emulated, and I've never noticed a difference in difficulty. Though I did notice that the stair-climbing animation is better in the floppy disk version, and of course there's the voices of the dolls.
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Shinobi on March 26, 2014, 10:07:55 AM
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Plus the arrange mode's music is pretty good, and the graphical overhauls like having the entire background of stage 3 changed to SotN-like quality and animating the sky in Stage 8. I just wish they went further, like touching up stage 6's graphics. The first part is good, but the bland green background leading up to the Simon doppelganger could've used some work.

I like the sound effect when you hit the candles, somehow it resembles from Castlevania 1 NES, I wish it also sounded like that when you hit the enemies or bosses as well, the only thing I don't like with the arrange version is the remix of vampire killer.

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I always thought they were trying to get you to help them, like the prisoners shouting for help to Simon in the dungeon stage. Except Simon just pimps on by. That's pretty stone cold of him.

I always thought that those prisoners are not real and just a part of Castle's current incarnation or a creature of chaos IMO.

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Also bloodreign-kun, I've both a physical copy of Chronicles and cvx68k emulated, and I've never noticed a difference in difficulty. Though I did notice that the stair-climbing animation is better in the floppy disk version, and of course there's the voices of the dolls.

Even the voices of dolls are present in arrange mode, only in the japanese version of chronicles but it was removed in the US version for unknown reason.

Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: beingthehero on March 26, 2014, 10:51:54 AM
I guess we Americans weren't ready to handle Japanese voices in our games until that following year in HoD. Only then could we were strong enough in spirit to hear it.

But yeah the prisoners were probably part of the castle itself, like the ones in SotN and PoR. Probably Dracula's past victims who were now forever trapped in the castle. Plus some werewolf-cyclops abomination breaks out of one of the cells to attack you.
Title: Re: Castlevania, Vampire Killer, X68K, or Chronicles Arranged Mode?
Post by: Morning star on March 26, 2014, 08:42:07 PM
Arranged mode in Castlevania chronicles is a joke. It was designed for newbie players with no skill as an excuse to bring the real game to hardcore fans. The original version of chronicles called simply, Castlevania, was a masterpiece. I love it! It's also the most difficult Castlevania game ever made.

Castlevania nes wins in this thread. We're we talking about the original chronicles and not arranged mode, it may be a different story.