I'm not really sure I see the point of this or the reason for singling out Nintendo. Every major company has its fair share of right things they do and other things which boggle the mind.
I love Nintendo and I'll admit there are a lot of things they do that frustrate the hell out of me, but I guess I don't feel like posting a whole big, long thread about it.
[...] we could think about threads for other companies for people to express opinions about.
We really are going to talk about Microsoft and EA? Please dont².
I'm not really sure I see the point of this or the reason for singling out Nintendo. Every major company has its fair share of right things they do and other things which boggle the mind.
Their games themselves haven't evolved since the Gamecube.
Nintendo resurrected console gaming. They did so by ruthless tactics which forced out competition. (Like the poor Master System.) But also by enforcing then much-needed quality control to avoid the deluge of substandard games that had choked off the Atari 2600 and indeed most of the American video game industry. I think their policy of focusing on the actual game experience rather than technology is the personification of what used to be the entire argument for and advantage of consoles before they just became overpriced proprietary PCs. As the end of the traditional console seems to loom larger and larger I think Nintendo is a company that has a good chance to exist on the strength of their IPs. Even when consoles are finally consumed by the all-encompassing central PC-media center that seems to be increasingly inevitable for the future.
If its it, they didnt change it because its not broken.That's Nintendo. If that's fine, don't change it.
That's Nintendo. If that's fine, don't change it.
Nintendo revived the video game console, and is now dancing on the edge of a knife with the second in a series of gimmick consoles.
I remember how Bill Gates stolen Apple ideas and used it to make Windows, inside Apple HQ under Steve Jobs nose.
One idea Bill Gates didn't steal from Apple: licensing software instead of requiring proprietary hardware. Hence why Apple was nearly dead in the mid 90's and Microsoft was on top of the world.
Nintendo resurrected console gaming. They did so by ruthless tactics which forced out competition. (Like the poor Master System.) But also by enforcing then much-needed quality control to avoid the deluge of substandard games that had choked off the Atari 2600 and indeed most of the American video game industry. I think their policy of focusing on the actual game experience rather than technology is the personification of what used to be the entire argument for and advantage of consoles before they just became overpriced proprietary PCs. As the end of the traditional console seems to loom larger and larger I think Nintendo is a company that has a good chance to exist on the strength of their IPs. Even when consoles are finally consumed by the all-encompassing central PC-media center that seems to be increasingly inevitable for the future.
Be that as it may, I was specifically referring to the 1980's and 90's, when Apple nearly went under.
Pros: Nintendo makes us laugh at some E3 events.Haha! Who is this guy?
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Nintendo went from top dog to second, afterwards with xbox they went to third. I think every one knows where I'm going with this but man come on.(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3d4.turboimagehost.com%2Ft1%2F13720699_media_preview.php.gif&hash=a84cd5005e5966e5a11cf097c2d0789b6ec94345)
From my understanding the Snes was a powerful system for it's time (compared to say a neo-geo scratch that off) compared to the tg-16(with out cd add on) and genesis( I do not feel the need to explain the senseless add ons) it was the more powerful of the three and had a good price. N64 was good but iirc the cartridges just could not hold as much as a cd but the carts IIRC they had little to no loadtimes, gc was all right, but the wii was way less powerful than the 360/ps3 and now from my understanding the wii-u is set to contend with the 360/ps3 not the xbone/ps4. So all what I am saying is that Nintendo stop beating around the bush and make a system that stands with the best of them... Again Just something on the same level again yes I do understand that affordability is one thing nintendo does concentrate on but nah console wise they gotta step up on their hardware and their relationship with third parties I should have a gang load of nintendo console releases but I don't handhelds yes oh yes but I'm disappointed with how little console games I have. Is it that bad to have up to date graphics and good gameplay and a strong third party involvement (yeah nintendo has a strict policy but again look at the snes it rocked)?
And my last con is kind of odd while I do enjoy gameplay over just pure graphics it's nice to have them. I'm not going to lie when I got LoS and tales of vesperia on the x360 I was like WOW they look very good there are more but... The only wii games to get that were muramasa, mario galaxy, and skyward sword.
I do wonder if I came off as a I want only graphics over gameplay guy. Also if some information is wrong correct me this is stuff that's been in the back of my head for awhile.
I think Microsoft is the clown of VG's industry, and Xbox 360 the biggest loser ever in terms of exclusive games.
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Sorry, that was my reaction. I know its your opinion, but since I think different its funny to me, even more when you say this about xbox.
You want a Nintendo console with great hardware right? But you know that Game Cube was superior to PS2 and 360 in graphics and had good support of thirdies but even so lose the battle? Just because its too expensive, I know some people that have NEVER heard about or seen a Game Cube, even if it was cheap in USA, at least here it was expensive. I think thats why Nintendo adopted a new tactic in focusing much more in innovation over graphics.
Now back on topic about these last years, if Nintendo is so weak on thirdies, why Bayonetta that was exclusive to 360 and Monster Hunter that was exclusive to PS2 are coming to Wii U? Bayonetta 2 is exclusive to Wii U and the main Monster Hunter titles are Nintendo exclusive since Monter Hunter Tri (3). The problem isnt Nintendo, its third-parties excluding Nintendo from their game schedule. Look at the selling charts and you will see that Nintendo stills on the top sales since Wii. Wii U isnt selling well because thirdies arent helping much, but even so they are doing wonders with the titles that they have.
What is even more funny is how I see in a lot of sites about how Nintendo is doomed or how their sales are bad, only to discover that they are the actual top-sellers. So or they are blatantly lying (maybe because they are being paid to give false news about Nintendo) or if they are correct and Nintendo is doomed, these another companies are already dead and dont know. Its not even my opinion in this statement, its statistics.
You've never seen Xenoblade Chronicles and Monster Hunter Tri do you? These games are really beautiful, you should check them sometime. :)
I think Microsoft is the clown of VG's industry, and Xbox 360 the biggest loser ever in terms of exclusive games.
PROS:
They make great games, many of which are system sellers for me (and for many other people as well). No other company can compare here, IMO.
CONS:
They make outdated, gimmicky consoles that I don't want to buy. In a perfect world, Nintendo would be third party, releasing their games on PS and XBOX. That way they could take advantage of the vastly superior technology their competitors are using, concentrating on making the actual games. Well, they could keep making handhelds cause they're pretty good at that.
And no, graphics isn't everything. But having to buy a console (WiiU) that is roughly as powerful as consoles that I've already owned for 6-7 years, only to be able to play great games, is infuriating. I don't want to buy new hardware to get (soon-to-be) last-gen tech. Simple as that. Will I do it anyway? Absolutely. Cause Mario rocks.
In a perfect world, the console market would be like the PC Market. Instead of all this fragmentation, you could build your own console or buy brands, and the console OS is pretty much the same across all the consoles. This way you could pick and choose the games you like and play them where you want. Though I think all in all a console is pretty much a Gaming PC with controller pads any ways. If you dual booted Wii OS, XBox OS, or Playstation OS on one machine, you could just buy a game and play it regardless of who made it. Just like how it is on Steam. No exclusives, no hype, none of that.
Or more than that: Nintendo and Sony would make their games for PC, so we don't have to buy 3 consoles and 2 portables every generation just to play the exclusives we like. I would like that.
Or maybe in a perfect world Sony and Nintendo would be allies and make an all powerful console with N and Sony brands
They did that once already and the result was the Super Nintendo. That's why it had the best sound because SONY gave the system its sound technology. It would be nice to see them team up once more to make another 'super' console.
Nintendo has been known to be a bit of a tyrant when it comes to third party I was watching all your history are belong to us and Nintendo did things that in the end really messed them up. Like their hand in creating the playstation and so on.
Well, if Sony didnt have backstabbed them, they could :P
OMG, Hiroshi at 1:51, his pose is almost the same from these news' photos about his death, alsoi he really aged well since I could tell that its him before they said his name in this video.
OMG2 at Gunpei Yokoi making toys.