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Title: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: machetespeghetti on March 08, 2014, 01:51:57 PM
I came across I neat facebook page called Operation: Akumajo. Page description-

 At Operation: Akumajo, we believe Akumajo Dracula is the heart and soul of Castlevania. We believe in its Japanese design, its culture of gothic romance, and the superiority of its 2D action-platforming. Our mission is to celebrate, support, and defend Akumajo Dracula, unite the Castlevania fanbase, and hold Konami to the highest possible standards of quality and fan service.

It was irresponsible for Konami to reboot Castlevania without providing over 20 years of existing continuity a worthy and proper closure. Akumajo fans have waited over 10 years to play Koji Igarashi’s legendary Demon Castle War. Therefore we challenge Konami to acknowledge their negligence and begin developing this game in good faith immediately. Quality is not negotiable. We insist Konami spare no expense returning 2D Akumajo Dracula to home consoles in full modern glory.

If you agree with our mission, please like and share our Facebook page to help us grow. All Castlevania fans are welcome to join.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Flame on March 08, 2014, 02:19:01 PM
not new. if you dig through topics you'll find the original thread. akumajo was ridiculously entitled and just couldn't be taken seriously.

it tried to compare itself to operation rainfall, but it was all just about it's founder. it was "i dont like los so konami should listen to me!"

grom what i recall he wasnt very professional about that and insisted on pushing his opinion as some kind of professional fact or something.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Ahasverus on March 08, 2014, 02:55:09 PM
Those clowns are so entitled and arrogant that while having good intentions I can't like them. However they are loud enough that perhaps they saved the Akumajou series in some form. I dunno. We'll see. More CV=I'm happy.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Flame on March 08, 2014, 03:04:24 PM
Those clowns are so entitled and arrogant that while having good intentions I can't like them. However they are loud enough that perhaps they saved the Akumajou series in some form. I dunno. We'll see. More CV=I'm happy.
somehow i doubt that.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: machetespeghetti on March 08, 2014, 03:43:56 PM
I'm not a fan of 3d vaninias in general I guess no one on this site likes mostly 2d cv games but me lol.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Flame on March 08, 2014, 04:16:38 PM
I'm not a fan of 3d vaninias in general I guess no one on this site likes mostly 2d cv games but me lol.
I like 2Dvanias.

I just don't like OA's entitled demands. It's all about what it's founder wants, not about some group of people trying to do something.

it's "Konami we demand 1999! or else!" It's "I don't like LoS because it's different and not muh castlevania!"
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Kingshango on March 08, 2014, 04:20:03 PM
They have good intentions and all but Operation Akumajo just comes off as a bunch of entitled whiney crybabies.

Unlike Operation Rainfall, which actually got shit done, Operation Akumajo was just one or two people just demanding the return of one person so that he could do a game that he never had any intention of doing in the first place. And in the end all they've accomplished was making fan fiction that will never go anywhere.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Intersection on March 08, 2014, 04:55:27 PM
This isn't new.

http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?topic=3853.0 (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?topic=3853.0)

Though I wonder what happened to Cecil-Kain.

Those clowns are so entitled and arrogant that while having good intentions I can't like them. However they are loud enough that perhaps they saved the Akumajou series in some form. I dunno. We'll see. More CV=I'm happy.
Eh, they're not clowns, they're just a bit misguided. They've got the right idea, but they won't get anywhere so long as they keep specifically demanding Konami to develop 1999. That isn't how minds change, especially when you're dealing with corporate brands. You can't exactly expect them to do requests -- they might react if a sufficient part of their fanbase expresses an interest in a certain style of gameplay, but they certainly won't cave in to a single group hammering on about one particular producer's return to create one particular game. That will never happen.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Chernabogue on March 08, 2014, 05:11:28 PM
Though I wonder what happened to Cecil-Kain.
Making a Kickstater poll on FB to make the 1999 game.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Shinobi on March 08, 2014, 05:23:50 PM
Operation Moonfall was already given up on insisting Nintendo to port Majora Mask on 3ds right? I hope it's the same thing as Operation Akumajo by facing the reality check like Operation Moonfall does.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Kingshango on March 08, 2014, 06:28:11 PM
Making a Kickstater poll on FB to make the 1999 game.

That'll go as well as that proposed unsanctioned Ghouls n Ghost's revival Kickstarter. :rollseyes:
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: GuyStarwind on March 08, 2014, 08:12:04 PM
They also got some artist guy to draw Dracula and Julius 1999 era for them. Personally I think they look good. For the group it self I'm a part of it but I'll be surprised if it goes anywhere. At least they're trying right?
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: machetespeghetti on March 08, 2014, 09:28:47 PM
sorry I didn't know this was an old topic I recieved word of it today.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: X on March 09, 2014, 12:44:01 AM
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sorry I didn't know this was an old topic I recieved word of it today.

No real issue there. At least you didn't commit thread necromancy, right? OA has been around since after the first LoS made it's debut which left some of us feeling betrayed at CV's new direction. Many of us were willing to help and we even gave Cecil-Kain ideas on how to better deliver his petition without sounding like a demand. Unfortunately nothing of our wanting to help him ever came about. I think on some level he tried, but in the end he went his own way believing it to be the better one.

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Though I wonder what happened to Cecil-Kain.

He did pop into the Dungeon roughly two/three months ago. Not sure what the topic was that grabbed his attention.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Sindra on March 09, 2014, 01:58:59 PM
People can bash cecil-kain as much as they want. At least he's being proactive with Operation Akumajo, despite his misguided methods and stubborn thoughts on his own ideas being superior than anything we suggested. He's unhappy with the direction the series has been going in, and he's actually doing something about it. Call him entitled or whiny or whatever, but the same could be said of any person who wants something changed about a series they've invested years of love into and don't want to see fade away because of perceived bad choices by the developers....and actually stepped up and attempted to get his dissatisfaction noticed.

I'm sure Operation: Rainfall got its fair share of criticism from people who said "Man, just be happy we got any Mega Man Legends games at all! Stop whining for something we didn't happen to get!"

(Note: I've butted heads with c-k alot in the past and I do think his way of going about things isn't the right way in terms of rallying people to his cause due to his own arrogance, but we're all Castlevania fans. No point in ripping each other apart when we all want more well-developed Castlevania in the end.)
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Flame on March 09, 2014, 02:29:48 PM
People can bash cecil-kain as much as they want. At least he's being proactive with Operation Akumajo, despite his misguided methods and stubborn thoughts on his own ideas being superior than anything we suggested. He's unhappy with the direction the series has been going in, and he's actually doing something about it. Call him entitled or whiny or whatever, but the same could be said of any person who wants something changed about a series they've invested years of love into and don't want to see fade away because of perceived bad choices by the developers....and actually stepped up and attempted to get his dissatisfaction noticed.
He hasn't really done anything though... Aside from occasional art updates, there's really nothing to write home about. The page has done almost nothing. No rallying, or gathering support or anything like that, or any of the other things these kinds of movements do to gain recognition

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I'm sure Operation: Rainfall got its fair share of criticism from people who said "Man, just be happy we got any Mega Man Legends games at all! Stop whining for something we didn't happen to get!"
Operation rainfall had nothing to do with Legends... that was Get Me Off The Moon - 100K strong for Mega Man Legends 3 And it's been said before- Operation Rainfall was about localizing a couple of games. They were already made.

Operation Akumajo is about demanding that Konami make a game based on an event mentioned in the lore in a game from 2003, which if i recall, IGA never had any serious intention of making. it was just a lore event, and people demand a game for it. Konami and IGA have never had any intention of making it, and yet here they are, demanding they make a game catered to their niche interests.

Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Sindra on March 09, 2014, 02:42:34 PM
Fuck, got my "Operations" mixed up. My bad.

How do you know Konami and Iga never had any intention of making a 1999 Battle game? Did I miss somewhere when they said that? because honestly, when you have references to it pop up in several games, it make it hard to think that something isn't being set up.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: crisis on March 09, 2014, 03:00:10 PM
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How do you know Konami and Iga never had any intention of making a 1999 Battle game?

i think the most common answer to that is "if they really intended on making it, they wouldve released it years ago"

but i agree Sindra, 1 group of castlevania fans shitting on another group of castlevania fans for wanting a specific castlevania game is counterintuitive & in the end makes all of us look stupid

and lets be honest, even in the rare event that OA does succeed, the group that shitted on them would suddenly STFU, because we'll all still be getting another castlevania game to play
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Flame on March 09, 2014, 03:00:21 PM
I may be wrong, I recall IGA mentioning off hand in some interview something of the sort, that he wouldnt mind making it, but that it wasnt on his radar or some such thing.

There's also the fact that he yknow, never fucking made it, but we got like 4 or 5 other games instead. Some of which reference it in some way. To go some of what was aid in the "Was IGA robbed" thread- he had his chance and never took it. obviously it was not that big a priority for him. He apparently didn't really feel it  was that important if he waited so long to the point where he can no longer make it due to expectations.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on March 09, 2014, 03:17:38 PM
This topic again?!
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: X on March 09, 2014, 04:16:16 PM
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This topic again?!

LOL!

Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Sindra on March 09, 2014, 05:14:47 PM
I may be wrong, I recall IGA mentioning off hand in some interview something of the sort, that he wouldnt mind making it, but that it wasnt on his radar or some such thing.

There's also the fact that he yknow, never fucking made it, but we got like 4 or 5 other games instead. Some of which reference it in some way. To go some of what was aid in the "Was IGA robbed" thread- he had his chance and never took it. obviously it was not that big a priority for him. He apparently didn't really feel it  was that important if he waited so long to the point where he can no longer make it due to expectations.

Well....he fucked up on that one, didn't he?

THANKS IGA
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: theANdROId on March 10, 2014, 12:06:30 AM
Maybe he was trying to go for a similar deal to the director of Star Trek.  I don't know how true it is and I'm too lazy to look it up for myself, but my Trekkie friend claims the episode where Picard is assimilated into the Borg was made because the director/writer/whoever-it-was knew he was getting fired, and he wrote that episode as a way to ensure he was rehired.  Again, I don't know the truth of that, but either way, maybe that was IGA's idea that didn't work?
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Ahasverus on March 10, 2014, 01:47:34 PM
Nah. IGA also said he was making these games until he could retire and that he wanted to retire. He's probably supe happy in his suit job.
Title: Re: Operation Akumajo (Facebook)
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 11, 2014, 05:54:49 AM
Yeah. He finally got something that pays steady and help him raise his kids without the frustration and stress that comes with being the head of the Castlevania team.