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Title: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Eric Roman on March 15, 2014, 07:10:02 PM
Do you fight Slogra?

Or is this doodle made for my Circle of the Moon review (http://www.terriblehands.com/dctp/circlevania.html) applicable once again?

(http://www.terriblehands.com/dctp/circlevany/circlevslog.jpg)

Thankyoudrivethrough. 
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: crisis on March 15, 2014, 07:13:31 PM
absolutely not! slogra makes no appearance in any of the los games besides that epilogue tease from los1

so this image was made for literally no reason at all

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2/slogra.jpg)


i suppose theres a chance he might appear in the alucard dlc, but i wouldnt count on it
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Anglachel on March 15, 2014, 07:20:35 PM
It would be fantastic to have Slogra in Revelations.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: uzo on March 15, 2014, 09:54:08 PM
Quote from: crisis on March 15, 2014, 07:13:31 PM
so this image was made for literally no reason at all

It was made to entice the old fans to buy a product not made for them.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: X on March 15, 2014, 11:41:01 PM
Just one more stick to the eye. That's all it is  :P
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Eric Roman on March 16, 2014, 01:04:06 AM
The context of that image is lost on me; I always thought it was just a randomass making-of shot for the last scene, in spite of the fact it's of the most important CastleVania thing to me since owning Super CastleVania IV in the first place. 
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Ahasverus on March 16, 2014, 07:27:11 AM
Quote from: Eric Roman on March 16, 2014, 01:04:06 AM
The context of that image is lost on me; I always thought it was just a randomass making-of shot for the last scene, in spite of the fact it's of the most important CastleVania thing to me since owning Super CastleVania IV in the first place.
I don't know where Uzo is making the buzz from. The imagr is taken from the time they made the dead slogra model for LoS1's epilogue.
Who knows, as Zobek enters the Cathedral after Alucarf wooke Dracula up perhaps in revelations we'll fight slogra when heading to the throne room. But don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Rugal on March 16, 2014, 08:08:56 AM
False advertisement at its best.

Just like that trailer LoS trailer that had Dracula's theme from CVIV.

At the end of the day, it's just a big middle finger to every fan.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Viskod on March 17, 2014, 05:24:46 AM
That is concept art for the first games epilogue, in which Slogras corpse does appear just for a nice added touch. I don't remember a trailer with the Dracula theme from 4, but the Dracula theme from 1 is in the game.

Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Eric Roman on March 17, 2014, 09:08:26 AM
Perhaps we've committed a mistake in assuming such a treat as a(n epic) cameo of (a seriously wrecked) Slogra has any bearing on the story at all?   
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: uzo on March 17, 2014, 05:47:19 PM
It doesn't matter when it was taken. It's still PR and marketing directed at the old fans. It makes people think "Wow! The dlc/next game is probably going to have Slogera! Maybe I should get it!"

That's the reaction they're hoping for. The same reaosn they pulled that BS with the extended Trailer #1 where it showed the rainy castle with Satan's lines to make it sound like it's Dracula. They just keep doing deceptive crap like that.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Viskod on March 17, 2014, 05:57:39 PM
Why are you blaming them for your assumptions? Slogra was in the epilogue, there's nothing false about it. It was just a hint for a cameo and they never said it would even be there to begin with just showed a picture.

Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: X on March 17, 2014, 06:01:14 PM
But you never get to fight Slogra, and there in lies the rub.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: K.G. Morder on March 17, 2014, 06:46:52 PM
Quote from: Viskod on March 17, 2014, 05:57:39 PM
Why are you blaming them for your assumptions? Slogra was in the epilogue, there's nothing false about it. It was just a hint for a cameo and they never said it would even be there to begin with just showed a picture.
it's still really sneaky marketing, like when they showed Dracul in the trailers with "DIE BELMONT" playing over it, making you think you fight Dracula.

I love loS and even I can see you are really trying way too hard to justify this.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: derision on March 17, 2014, 07:31:33 PM
The Alucard dlc would pretty much be the perfect place to finally get this guy involved.

(click to show/hide)

At this point it's probably wishful thinking. Really, it was a good-looking and faithful model. Weird that it was just stuck in a cutscene.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Viskod on March 18, 2014, 05:40:16 AM
Quote from: Flame on March 17, 2014, 06:46:52 PM
it's still really sneaky marketing, like when they showed Dracul in the trailers with "DIE BELMONT" playing over it, making you think you fight Dracula.

I love loS and even I can see you are really trying way too hard to justify this.

Justify what exactly? There's nothing here that needs justification. I'm saying maybe don't jump to your own conclusions and assumptions based on one picture of concept art and then whine when they turn out not to be what you wanted.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Anglachel on March 18, 2014, 08:02:00 AM
It would be nice to have both Slogra and a chapel level in the DLC.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Viskod on March 18, 2014, 08:30:51 AM
That would have been a great idea, but I doubt it'll happen.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: uzo on March 18, 2014, 04:42:44 PM
Quote from: Viskod on March 18, 2014, 05:40:16 AM
Justify what exactly? There's nothing here that needs justification. I'm saying maybe don't jump to your own conclusions and assumptions based on one picture of concept art and then whine when they turn out not to be what you wanted.

That is exactly the effect they want though. It's intentional. They give you veague material as to make your old fan brain go wild. Then they cna cover themselves with that exact excuse.

It's a very deliberate marketing move.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: EstebanT on March 18, 2014, 05:35:20 PM
Sometimes being a fanboy sucks. :(
They don't HAVE to have slogra there... But whats the harm? Why not have it? Its almost like they're trying to piss us off.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Viskod on March 18, 2014, 05:42:59 PM
It didn't piss me off. I loved seeing him there, thinking if him standing guard over Gabriel for so long. The merman statues were great to. I loved that whole cathedral throne room it was pure Castlevania in design.

Like how the throne was set off behind that long platform where if it were a 2D game you'd see Dracula setting on it in the background, and it even had a giant window at the end and I could totally see sunlight breaking through that at the end of a classic boss fight there to finish him off.

It was great fan service. All if it. So again, they can't be blamed for your false assumptions based on nothing but one picture.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Anglachel on March 18, 2014, 07:06:14 PM
Quote from: Viskod on March 18, 2014, 05:42:59 PM
It didn't piss me off. I loved seeing him there, thinking if him standing guard over Gabriel for so long. The merman statues were great to. I loved that whole cathedral throne room it was pure Castlevania in design.

Like how the throne was set off behind that long platform where if it were a 2D game you'd see Dracula setting on it in the background, and it even had a giant window at the end and I could totally see sunlight breaking through that at the end of a classic boss fight there to finish him off.

It was great fan service. All if it. So again, they can't be blamed for your false assumptions based on nothing but one picture.

Dang, didn't even think about the throne room thing. Cool thing to point out! Although, personally, the ending to the first game felt more Castlevaniaish than the entire 2nd game.  :-\
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Mike Belmont on March 18, 2014, 07:09:45 PM
Quote from: Anglachel on March 18, 2014, 07:06:14 PM
Dang, didn't even think about the throne room thing. Cool thing to point out! Although, personally, the ending to the first game felt more Castlevaniaish than the entire 2nd game.  :-\

If you are refering to the epilogue, with the Eu sunt Dracul moment, then yes, is very Castlevania-esque.

But yes, that throne room is very cool...
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 18, 2014, 07:11:40 PM
Quote from: Anglachel on March 18, 2014, 07:06:14 PM
the ending to the first game felt more Castlevaniaish than the entire 2nd game.  :-\

That 2nd game is the direct result of production troubles making a good concept turn bad in the execution.
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Anglachel on March 18, 2014, 07:15:37 PM
Quote from: Mike Belmont on March 18, 2014, 07:09:45 PM
If you are refering to the epilogue, with the Eu sunt Dracul moment, then yes, is very Castlevania-esque.

But yes, that throne room is very cool...

Yes, I was referring to the epilogue part.  :P What made it cool was that at the point of the ending, Dracula was put out of my mind for a bit because I was really engrossed in Gabriel's story. So, seeing Gabriel as the vampire was quite a twist for me, and got me instantly pumped for the sequel.

But the second just didn't feel Castlevania to me.  :( I was kinda hoping that Lords of Shadow 2 would be like Mercurysteam's Demon Castle War, like it would try to go for that kind of feel of an ultimate battle vs. Dracula (or Satan.)
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Kale on March 18, 2014, 07:30:44 PM
Definitely sneaky marketing... it's like saying Goku appears in something, then all that shows up is a picture of an open manga on the floor.

Damn this thread! I forgot about my initial reaction to not seeing Slogra, now you bring this up!?
Title: Re: There's really just one thing I'd like to know about Lords of Shadow 2.
Post by: Eric Roman on March 22, 2014, 11:09:15 AM
Not so sure about Slogra standing guard over Dracula through the centuries, it seemed like he got ruined and hurled into the wall there.  Perhaps wrecked by Alucard, then? 

(You don't know how glad I am to type "Alucard" in this context and the image of this fucking badass warrior {who was once Trevor} comes to mind.)