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Since there have been several threads derailed by talk of conspiracies I thought I would make a thread where they could discuss it without derailing further topics. Morning Star. You're big on this subject so this'll be the perfect place to talk about it :D I'll start. My Brother threw this my way a while ago. It's titled 'Contact & Disclosure'.
Dr. Steven Greer presents "Contact & Disclosure: The Final Sequence" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0oLJNfs_rM#ws)
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does anyone get the impression this woman is flat-out lying? what do you say when your mind refuses to believe what your eyes are seeing?
UFO ENGLAND DOCUMENTARY Out Of This World Staffordshire 1954 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npCZ3W7Qtz4#)
Staffordshire Flying Saucer Close Encounter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW2RMWyRnr4#)
UFO FILMED FROM PLANE ENGLAND ORGIONAL FULL CLIP Staffordshire in 1966 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC5wpGGPKbU#)
truth is stranger than fiction
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Since there have been several threads derailed by talk of conspiracies I thought I would make a thread where they could discuss it without derailing further topics. Morning Star. You're big on this subject so this'll be the perfect place to talk about it :D I'll start. My Brother threw this my way a while ago. It's titled 'Contact & Disclosure'.
Dr. Steven Greer presents "Contact & Disclosure: The Final Sequence" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0oLJNfs_rM#ws)
He lost me at "time doesn't exist, but we're running out of it."
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Since there have been several threads derailed by talk of conspiracies I thought I would make a thread where they could discuss it without derailing further topics. Morning Star. You're big on this subject so this'll be the perfect place to talk about it :D I'll start. My Brother threw this my way a while ago. It's titled 'Contact & Disclosure'.
Dr. Steven Greer presents "Contact & Disclosure: The Final Sequence" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0oLJNfs_rM#ws)
If you want some good UFO speeches start with Stanton Friedman, not this guy.
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If you want some good UFO speeches start with Stanton Friedman, not this guy.
Is he the one whom used to work at Area S-4? They had him on a discovery channel special during alien week as I recall
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Not that I'm aware specifically. He's a nuclear physicist. Hes worked some classified stuff before though, but I've never seen him come out and say hes seen anything alien during those projects unless I missed that part.
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I'm curious about the planet x thing.
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We're all wondering the same thing... What is Studio 54???
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I'm curious about the planet x thing.
It's not Planet X anymore. NASA has officially called it Setna, even though it was discovered back in the 1970's (I think) they kept it somewhat quiet save for the rumors. Setna is beyond Pluto and has an elliptical orbit around our Sun. The ancient Middle-eastern cultures called it Nibiru, the twelfth planet; Home to a race known in the bible as the Anunnaki. The Babylonian God, Marduk was their leader. Nibiru is a massive planetoid, much larger then the earth. From what I've read about them the Anunnaki came to earth to mine gold. Gold was a necessity for them because of their planet's disintegrating atmosphere. The Anunnaki used us as a labor race to mine the gold for them while they sat on their asses and experimented on us. Ever wonder about the whole 'missing link' theory? About why there was such a big jump in our evolution? You can blame the Anunnaki for that. It is because of that that Marduk is quoted as being the creator of mankind. The tower of Babel story was in essence our rebellion against them even though the bible states that it was us against god.
4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
—Genesis 11:4–9
Now let's swap the word 'lord' and put in 'Anunnaki'
4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
5 And the Anunnaki came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
6 And the Anunnaki said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
8 So the Anunnaki scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Anunnaki did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Anunnaki scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
—Genesis 11:4–9
This makes more sense since our true God is a being of absolute love, wisdom, devotion, enlightenment, and we are apart of him/her as he/her is apart of us, and would never commit such a terrible atrocity. We were not trying to invade heaven as the bible claims, but trying to fight off our oppressors. It's the quintessential classic Sci-fi tale about our early history.
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We don't know for sure if that's what they considered Nibiru. In fact Sedna's orbit could actually be evidence of yet another large planet, because it is so messed up.
That could be the real Nibiru. Since Nibiru was said to be larger than Earth I believe. Where as Sedna is the size of Pluto give or take.
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Problem with this nibiru theory is it's meant to return via its orbit every 3600 years... Where are we at now?
http://www.tokenrock.com/explain-tiamat-planetary-theory-144.html (http://www.tokenrock.com/explain-tiamat-planetary-theory-144.html)
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I heard Uzo is an Anunnakian whose goal is to make sure humans do not know where Nibiru really is.
As for other conspiracies, I always found the oft-rumored Aurora aircraft pretty fascinating:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(aircraft) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_(aircraft))
Along with Black triangles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_triangle_(UFO) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_triangle_(UFO))
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Both Nibiru and Setna could be entirely two different planets. I'm not sure myself. However it's definitely a strong possibility since the outer-most belt; The Kuiper Belt contains Planet-sized chunks of rock that are being discovered on a continual basis. So in that retrospect our Solar system is huge! Just how many planets do we really have orbiting our sun besides the common 9-er 10? Nibiru's orbit is something like Pluto's except it swings right on by the Earth every 3600 years (as zangetsu468 has stated). The last time this happened I believe it was in 2003. But nobody ever really knew about it because we were all kept in the dark. Probably for our protection as there are ET's out there who are looking out for us, as well as guiding us and advancing us steadily.
As for other conspiracies, I always found the oft-rumored Aurora aircraft pretty fascinating
I know this one well. It was all the buzz back in the 90s and was also talked about on Alien week on the Discovery channel. Essentially the Aurora it is the first hypersonic aircraft that leaves behind a very unique and unusual con-trail:
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/uair01/contrail_donut.jpg (http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e182/uair01/contrail_donut.jpg)
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/KgCXupNrwHM/0.jpg (http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/KgCXupNrwHM/0.jpg)
And apparently the noise generated by this craft is far louder then conventional jet aircraft It's like having a bomb go off.
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That's a nice explanation on Nibiru.
Speaking of triangles, what about the Bermuda Triangle and all those other vile vortices?
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Believe it or not, the Bermuda Triangle's effects are caused by still-active sources of energy. This energy is emitted by giant crystal capstones on large pyramids under the ocean. Those pyramid structures are just some of the remains of Atlantis. There was a book written by a diver back in the late 60's whom studied an immense underwater pyramid. What he discovered was an object twice/three times as large as the great Giza pyramid. On the top of said structure was resting a large crystal capstone that was radiating energy. Although the book was published nothing was ever followed up on the discovery which makes me wonder if it was covered up in some way by the authorities. It wouldn't surprise me in the least. Edgar Cayce talked about Atlantis on one of his books. He also stated that sometime in the 1960's some of the remnants of Atlantis would be reveled in and around the Bahamas. The Bimini road; as Cacye surmised appeared during the 1960's in the area. There have also been found large and small spherical crystals along the road. The Atlanteans used crystal for many purposes such as healing, information storage (we're starting to do that now with our computers), light emitters, laser guidance and refractors, as well as (unfortunately) weapons of mass destruction. Edger Cayce mentions that the second great disaster of Atlantis was self-inflicted due to them accidentally tuning their massive power crystal on too high a frequency. This destroyed part of their continent.
Here's some images of the Bimini road;
http://www.whatthehellnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Off-Bimini-I_photo_medium.jpg (http://www.whatthehellnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Off-Bimini-I_photo_medium.jpg)
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_misterios/bermuda_bimini_c.jpg (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_misterios/bermuda_bimini_c.jpg)
http://www.manoneileen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/bim-roadmap.jpg (http://www.manoneileen.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/bim-roadmap.jpg)
Here's a website that talks about the underwater pyramid find;
http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/two-giant-underwater-crystal-pyramids-discovered-center-bermuda-triangle (http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/two-giant-underwater-crystal-pyramids-discovered-center-bermuda-triangle)
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I want to mention something.
All of the information posted thus far, i have heard from various sources at some point in the past. So i am not saying that anybody is posting something that they didn't hear, because i have heard it all myself. But i do have a question before i go on.
Has anybody ever seen proof of aliens? I have not. I have heard people say that they know somebody that says they did. That's about as far as it ever goes. If aliens are here, why would they hide from us? If the government has been in contact with them, would they not be frustrated with the elites not letting us in on it by now and just reveal themselves? After all, if they did in fact make it here, they are very advanced. I don't see any scenario where advanced beings like these would care about the opinion of a bunch of super corrupt individuals who call themselves our leaders. Think about it guys.
Also.. You hear all this stuff about Edgar Cayce, Atlantis, the Mayans, the crystal skulls, and things beibg hidden under the right paw of the sphinx, but have you ever seen proof of anything? These are the same people bringing you false footage of the chupacabra and Bigfoot. The megaladon show on discovery channel, remember that? They made is think throughout the entire program that the thing had been found. It was a huge lie, and i for one did not find it funny. Anybody catch mermaids the body found?
It's conducting research about the human mind guys. They are exploring the effectiveness of the eugenics program they introduced through the water supply and GMO foods. They want to know exactly what they can get the bulk of the population to believe at any given time. This is how they make plans. The next 911 event could be even less elaborately planned than the last one. But they need to conduct research to expose how effectively they are altering peoples minds first.
I will be writing story that i think will clear up a few things. The people posting here seem very well read on most of the known conspiracy theories. I don't feel like it will be wasted time.
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Morning Star, I agree when you speak of studying the human species at a macro scale. I can't vouch for aliens, but I have been privy to seeing and hearing supernatural things. Many I know have either seen or been affected by the supernatural in some form. It has directly affected people I love either favourably or unfavourably. I can't say any more than that.
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Has anybody ever seen proof of aliens? I have not. I have heard people say that they know somebody that says they did. That's about as far as it ever goes. If aliens are here, why would they hide from us? If the government has been in contact with them, would they not be frustrated with the elites not letting us in on it by now and just reveal themselves? After all, if they did in fact make it here, they are very advanced. I don't see any scenario where advanced beings like these would care about the opinion of a bunch of super corrupt individuals who call themselves our leaders. Think about it guys.
Do you really want to know why Aliens have not shown themselves? The answer is simple; We are an extremely primitive and paranoid culture. Take a look at world events. We're still fighting and killing each other outright. There are many ETs out there that do not even know what the word 'War' is. It's not in their language. Earth on a spiritual scale is a very, very dark world. We are living on the lowest level of dimensional planes. This planet is the insane asylum of the whole universe. Or if you want an easier reference the look no further then the Christian's personification of Hell. That's what earth is; Hell. It's not below us it's right here amongst us. If you were from an extremely advanced race of beings who knew absolutely nothing about conflict in any way, shape or form, and you saw what was happening down here, what would your reaction be? How would you react to such violence? While you may not know it or believe it ETs are already on earth but you wouldn't know by the look of them because they look just like us. Just because you haven't seen something doesn't mean it's not true. You need evidence to disprove just as much as you need evidence to prove something. We aren't the only human species out there in the cosmos. And the other reason why you don't see them is because they've chosen not to reveal themselves (see the first reason). Official first contact from what I've head is on it's way. we are getting close, but we still need to sort ourselves out and the ETs that are hear are helping with that. Also humanity itself didn't originate on earth as the Darwin theory claims (of course Darwin didn't have access to our current knowledge either). The tribes of Africa will tell you stories of how their ancestors descended from the sky. The white man (race) has this obsession with the constellation of Pleiades (The seven sisters star cluster also known as Ursa minor, the little bear, little dipper). There are many depictions of it in old Celtic/Germanic imagery. Here's an image of it on a germanic sky chart; http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Nebra_Scheibe.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Nebra_Scheibe.jpg)
The Atlantean race themselves are not native to this planet either. I've also heard that the first supposed earth colonies originated from the Andromeda galaxy. By the colonies were failures. The reason for the failings was due to this planet itself. As I had stated earth is a dark world and anyone coming here for an life incarnation deserves a f**king medal of honor. I know that I've been reincarnating to this planet since the civilization of Lemuria (Before Atlantis). What does that say about me? I'm a f**king masochist if it's been that long! And yes, this is something that I'm not proud of yet at the same time I am. Talk about human contradiction :P
These are the same people bringing you false footage of the chupacabra and Bigfoot
I've heard that the Chupacabra is actually a biological tool used for gathering organic samples for ETs. When you hear stories of animal mutilations it's because those are the ones that have 'malfunctioned' so to speak. As for bigfoot, Sasquatch, the yeti, etc. I also heard that they are something of our creation. Through the untapped power of human though over the course of the ages we gave rise to these creatures. What I'm taking about is the ability to create what is known as a Tulpas according to the Tibetan oral traditions. The power of the human mind through stories and imaginations and belief made these creatures 'solid and real'. And considering how many of us are on this planet who know these stories of bigfoot it's not out of the question.
Has anybody ever seen proof of aliens? I have not. I have heard people say that they know somebody that says they did. That's about as far as it ever goes.
As a conspiracy theorist you can't just throw what you heard out the window because it is not what you hoped for or expected. Like anything else in life you need to keep an open mind and do away with your ignorance and arrogance. You need to 'look around' and 'start digging' so to speak. You'll never get anywhere so long as you keep holding onto what you feel to be true and outright dismissing everything else that doesn't have any tangible evidence. More ofter then not the human ego will interfere with whatever it is that we are doing or trying to accomplish. The human Ego does nothing to help us in any way. It's detrimental.
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"The man who shook his head on being shown a giraffe, and said 'I don't believe it,' is quite on a par with the pontifical wiseacres of Wimpole Street.
It is egomaniac vanity that prompts disbelief in phenomena merely because they lie outside the infinitesimally minute pilule of one's own personal experience . . . if I may doubt all the people who have been to Africa or the Zoo and seen that giraffe, why must I cling with simple childlike trust to the people that say they've been all over Hell and parts of Kansas, and haven't seen one, and therefore such things cannot possibly be? Of the two dogmatic assertions, I should unquestionably prefer the positive statement to the negative."
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People here have already formed very strong opinions about this topic. To argue my points would require a history lesson that would be long, require a large amount of effort on my part and in the end would probably be responded to by another quote that somebody heard on the history channel, YouTube or some book on the occult.
Let me leave you with these few thoughts.
The nazi doctrine is a branch of the golden dawn. The golden dawn taught Thelma. The Thule society is a German branch of the golden dawn. A little different, but mostly the same exact stuff. The golden dawn explores the same belief system of many ancient civilizations, only in a modern way. Egypt, Babylon, etc and so on. This is also the same belief system used by the illuminati. Illuminati banks in America funded the nazi war effort. George Bush seniors dad, Prescott Bush, was a nazi. Barbara Bush may have been the daughter of Aleister Crowley (Golden Dawn, Satanist and master mason) also the guy whos teachings are behind the founding of the church of Scientology. Wicca and neopaganism are the newest branches of the same basic belief system. This is the golden dawn for the common man and woman. If we were in school, they would be considered the intro courses into the much larger belief system or the elites. They hook you with the green aspects of loving your planet, nature and eachother. They mesmerize you with talk of fairies, alternate dimensions and magic. And finally you are presented with the truth about the religion you are following. Satanism.
High ranking nazi officials said, "we were helped by people from other worlds". Has anybody considered what that could mean? So the aliens helped with a holocaust? If they are here, they are not here to help.
Georgia guidestones say > mantain humanity at or below five hundred million people.
NASA now says > we passed the tipping point a long time ago. We could see the end of humanity by 2030-2040.
Again.. They are trying to get you to believe something. The question is why? The nation that conducted the holocaust says "we were helped by people from other worlds". They share a common base religion with the people who control the reports on all these ancient findings. They are teaching you something now. The question is why?!?!?!
Preconditioning you to accept the extinction of the human race. And that it is logical. That's the answer.
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To argue my points would require a history lesson that would be long, require a large amount of effort on my part and in the end would probably be responded to by another quote that somebody heard on the history channel, YouTube or some book on the occult.
but u didnt get your info from book(s) or from a documentary or from someone that knows someone that knows a guy?
My Favourite clip from the UFO Disclosure Project (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6QNzH4x1rY#)
Bush and Cheney on UFOs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z93PrwYURkk#)
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Aleister Crowley (Golden Dawn, Satanist and master mason)
This man is not a member of the Free Masons. There is another group who considers themselves Masons but they are not apart of the Free Masons; The founders of the United States. Aleister Crowley is (was) apart of what some have dubbed Clandestine Masons. The Skull and Bone society is one of their branches which the Bush family is apart of, and yes they have Nazi memorabilia with in the society's main building too. I am also familiar with the Thule society (Order of the Black Sun).
High ranking nazi officials said, "we were helped by people from other worlds".
Yes they were. That's how the Nazis were able to advance their military tech which the allies then used post war on things like the space program. The Nazis themselves actually built UFOs. The had four UFO blueprints but only three were ever built and tested. Here's some images of them;
http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/FJ/haunebutype.jpg (http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/FJ/haunebutype.jpg)
Has anybody considered what that could mean? So the aliens helped with a holocaust? If they are here, they are not here to help.
No. Aliens would have had nothing to do with a mindless mass genocidal program such as the holocaust. that was all Hitler and his Reich society. You have to remember that hitler himself is the second of three antichrists as predicted by Nostradamus. Hitler is what we would call in spiritual terms; A Dark Entity. Dark entities differ from that of regular souls. And the only place in the whole universe that dark entities came incarnate is right here on earth, because earth is a dark world.
Wicca and neopaganism are the newest branches of the same basic belief system.
Wicca or witchcraft is nothing new. It's old. Very old. It is a belief system that follows humankind all the way back to prehistoric times. Long before any other form of belief. It has nothing to do with satanism. It is the belief in the Great Goddess (Mother God). It's about the sacred respect and worship of Life, Nature and the Universe as a whole. Take the five pointed star pentagram as an example. It's got nothing to do with the devil as the early Church has made it out to be. Instead it represents the five sacred elements of the universe: Earth, Fire, Wind, Water, and Ether. We need these elements for our very survival so this can't be an evil thing. And these forces were in turn created by God. Neopeganism is a return to the older beliefs that were stamped out by early church doctrines. Neopeganism is not evil. It is in fact a sacred and personal belief in God and God's creations. There are those who have taken neopeganism as an excuse to do bad things, but in the end it's not the true purpose of such practice, and Karmic debt will give those idiots a good kicking in time and instances. God created things to be that way as a form of education; to help teach us values, right from wrong, and to learn to respect those around us. by hurting other you hurt yourself far greater then you know of. That is a form of Karmic debt. But by helping others you are rewarded in kind far greater then the deed itself. Jesus himself taught these very lessons to his followers.
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This is what i figured. Posts that make no sense and rubbish designed to try and confuse people.
People can see what i posted. Google this stuff guys.
Witchcraft and sorcery are indeed, very old. Gerald B Gardner is the founder of Wicca though. Wicca is not old. Aleister Crowley satanist that helped author many Wiccan rites, says he invoked Thoth to get the LOST secret wisdom.. You may have heard of Thoth. There is a video on YouTube talking about how him an Ra are masters of the universe. A crazy long time ago.. (Katy perry reference) I wonder if Crowley was channeling him when he was ran out of Italy by Mussolini!!! Why was he ran off? I'm so glad you asked. Because children were coming up missing and people were becoming very afraid. I wonder if he was channeling Thoth when he had a sexual encounter with another man in the desert during a ritual to invoke demons. Later that man lost his mind btw. I wonder if he was securing ancient wisdom for us when he had a goat mount his wife and upon climax he cut the goats throat? He must have gained great knowledge from that...
Crowley was a Master Mason. 33rd degree Scottish rite. Among being involved in other branches of masonry. Next you will say Albert Pike was not also a master mason. He was a grand dragon in the KKK.
Last but not least... This.
You can't have it both ways man. Either aliens helped the nazis or they didn't. If they didn't, it's a conspiracy cooked up by the illuminati to push the agenda people are being brainwashed into accepting now. If they did.. It means they knowingly gave advanced technology to a country that was and i quote "guilty of crimes against humanity".
You said it was not the aliens fault because that was hitler, not the nazis. If the aliens are that stupid, i want nothing to do with them. You also said in an earlier post that we are a primitive and paranoid culture. That's why the aliens didn't expose themselves. If you listen to the ancient astronaut theorists (lmao) they exposed themselves during our entire history. Why not now again? Are we more barbaric now or in 2000 BC?
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Keep it civil in here or this topic will be closed.... and that is no conspiracy. I can already see it unraveling in here, behave like responsible adults.
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i just like to defend my alien brothers ???
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Crowley was a Master Mason. 33rd degree Scottish rite.
The Free Masons do not have 33 degrees. They only have 3. The clandestine Masons have 33.
Gerald B Gardner is the founder of Wicca though. Wicca is not old.
The founder of modern Wicca maybe but not the original which is indeed very, very old.
You may have heard of Thoth
Yes, Thoth is the Egyptian God of scribing and wisdom. There's nothing evil about that.
Ra are masters of the universe.
Ra being the Sun God in Egyptian mythology, isn't so much the master of the universe per se. but is essentially the universe itself. Ra is another facet of the Father God (Jahova to the Christians, Om to the Tibetans, and Ahala to the Arabs.) He goes by so many names but in the end it is the same God.
You can't have it both ways man. Either aliens helped the nazis or they didn't. If they didn't, it's a conspiracy cooked up by the illuminati to push the agenda people are being brainwashed into accepting now. If they did.. It means they knowingly gave advanced technology to a country that was and i quote "guilty of crimes against humanity".
You said it was not the aliens fault because that was hitler, not the nazis.
ETs did help the Nazis but were never apart of Hitler's final solution. Yes they did help the Nazis. That on official reccord of those who were brought over to the US to work on America's space program. But I think what has lead to your confusion about them through my posts is that i neglected to mention the following: Yes ETs are real as history has proven time and again. There are those who wish to help us and there are those who wish to do us harm. The Anunnaki; A reptilian-like race were the one who ended up doing the most harm to us. By interfering with our natural evolution in order to utilize us as a labor force. The ETs living amongst us now are the ones who are trying to help us get passed all that mess. They are teachers, scientists, chemists, lecturers, philosophers, etc. But they look just like us so you would never know they were an alien unless they told you themselves. But they do not wish to because were are still going through a transition and we're not ready yet.
Hitler is a dark entity. Dark entities are born physic with natural ability to draw people to them. They have a naturally strong charismatic magnetism that they use to gather followers to their cause (whatever cause it may be). The majority of the Nazis believed what they were doing was right because they were drawn in by Hitler's words. Through his Charisma. And just in case if you're not familiar with operation Valkyrie, It was the plot to assassinate Hitler. The ones doing the plotting were in fact Nazis whom believed that Hitler was going too far and out of control.
People can see what i posted. Google this stuff guys.
Like anything on the net it must be taken with a grain of salt. I'm familiar with that which you have stated but eachothers' conclusions are very different. But that's all a part of being human.
This is what i figured. Posts that make no sense and rubbish designed to try and confuse people.
I have no idea why you've decided to take it upon yourself to try and gouge us like this. The other posts made on this thread make sense. If you're feeling confused then that's something within you that needs dealing with. It's got nothing to do with the rest of us. Remember what I said about the human Ego? If you aren't in control it can and will control you. You may think you are in control, but that's what the Ego does. It's the greatest manipulator that makes you completely unaware of what's truly going on. The Ego is the darkness within ourselves and it must be strictly managed. 'The internal struggle' as it is more commonly know. And Since Bloodreign has posted out a warning I would suggest we all heed it. Unless of course Morning Star you wish this thread locked.
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The Free Masons do not have 33 degrees. They only have 3. The clandestine Masons have 33.
Alright, so he was not official. He was still a master of the degrees. He was so high ranking that they gave him an administrative role. But him being or not being a super official mason had little to do with the larger point i was making. Almost all high ranking, executive postion elites, have some ties to masonry or the occult. I notice you didn't comment on the other points i mentioned about him, lol.
The founder of modern Wicca maybe but not the original which is indeed very, very old.
No maybe to it, that's fact. Gardner invented it. It's documented. And anybody should know how old witchcraft is. It's spoken of in the Hebrew bible for one example.
Yes, Thoth is the Egyptian God of scribing and wisdom. There's nothing evil about that.
Ra being the Sun God in Egyptian mythology, isn't so much the master of the universe per se. but is essentially the universe itself. Ra is another facet of the Father God (Jahova to the Christians, Om to the Tibetans, and Ahala to the Arabs.) He goes by so many names but in the end it is the same God.old.
Is it the same god? Are you sure about that? Because the Old Testament God says not to use any symbol to represent his worship. Idols, etc. In fact, the way i read it, the bible makes it clear that idol worship starts after satan is cast from heaven. Sun worship is satans revenge for this. At least, that's what the bible says. I know that this ancient alien thing claims that all these gods are the same, and for the most part, they are. But the God of the Old Testament seems to be a clear example of something a little different.
ETs did help the Nazis but were never apart of Hitler's final solution. Yes they did help the Nazis. That on official reccord of those who were brought over to the US to work on America's space program. But I think what has lead to your confusion about them through my posts is that i neglected to mention the following: Yes ETs are real as history has proven time and again. There are those who wish to help us and there are those who wish to do us harm. The Anunnaki; A reptilian-like race were the one who ended up doing the most harm to us. By interfering with our natural evolution in order to utilize us as a labor force. The ETs living amongst us now are the ones who are trying to help us get passed all that mess. They are teachers, scientists, chemists, lecturers, philosophers, etc. But they look just like us so you would never know they were an alien unless they told you themselves. But they do not wish to because were are still going through a transition and we're not ready yet.
Hitler is a dark entity. Dark entities are born physic with natural ability to draw people to them. They have a naturally strong charismatic magnetism that they use to gather followers to their cause (whatever cause it may be). The majority of the Nazis believed what they were doing was right because they were drawn in by Hitler's words. Through his Charisma. And just in case if you're not familiar with operation Valkyrie, It was the plot to assassinate Hitler. The ones doing the plotting were in fact Nazis whom believed that Hitler was going too far and out of control.
This is where you really lost me. How you can even start to imagine that you know what your taking about here is beyond me. I know they have released a lot of pro alien propaganda. Series, documentaries, even official translated findings to try and support it all. The question is this. Can you believe what your being shown these days? The answer is no. The year the history channel began to be no longer credible was in 1999. Interesting date 1999.. That the year they released the matrix. (The blueprint of illuminati control) During this period we have a faction called the NWO in professional wrestling. That's very close to the year that castlevania made it's forever shift to the dark side. "Perhaps the same could be said of all religions" "what is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets" the series has never been the same and has only went more twisted and stupid ever since. 1999 was the year Bush watched the dawn of the new era ceremony in Egypt in front of the pyramids.. 1999 turned upside down is the numbers 1 and 666. These hand symbols are now being used all over television. One finger followed by the hook em horns. Colbert does it. Bill Maher does it. John Oliver did it when he introduced his new news show on HBO. And many many more. But enough talk, have at you! [/quote]
Like anything on the net it must be taken with a grain of salt. I'm familiar with that which you have stated but eachothers' conclusions are very different. But that's all a part of being human.
I agree that things found on the internet must be double and triple referenced these days. The internet is the modern day equivalent to a book burning. They are trying to rewrite history to favor whatever fanciful story they decide to stick out there. But just to be clear. My sources are reputable. I am not just some half ass clown that google searches and then talks about it as if i had known all along. I give you one reference now. The capitalist conspiracy, by G. Edward Griffin. That's a great one to reference.
I have no idea why you've decided to take it upon yourself to try and gouge us like this. The other posts made on this thread make sense. If you're feeling confused then that's something within you that needs dealing with. It's got nothing to do with the rest of us. Remember what I said about the human Ego? If you aren't in control it can and will control you. You may think you are in control, but that's what the Ego does. It's the greatest manipulator that makes you completely unaware of what's truly going on. The Ego is the darkness within ourselves and it must be strictly managed. 'The internal struggle' as it is more commonly know. And Since Bloodreign has posted out a warning I would suggest we all heed it. Unless of course Morning Star you wish this thread locked.
This quote is absolute rubbish and i won't entertain it. You are no mod and your not claiming any high ground by acting like one. What are all these references to us, lol. I have no ego where i am wrong, nor will i play games with words to seem more correct when i have brought no real substance to the conversation. Psychology can be used only on the weak my friend. I am neither weak, nor confused. The last thing i want is this thread locked. That implied that i would wish it because i am somehow losing. Clearly you are mistaken. Instead of picking apart my posts for anything you can refute rightly or not. Why not instead try to add something or stay on topic with an educated argument.
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The point is, when you're posting in a thread called "conspiracy", and start arguing about Atlantean energy crystals, Illuminati mind control, and how aliens helped Hitler, then you're really in no position to call each others' posts rubbish.
In other words, everything that's been discussed here is entirely contingent -- which means that while none of it is necessarily false, it's all also lightyears away from possessing any objective truth value. So the only thing that you actually succeed in doing when you single out the "rubbish" opinions of others is to make this entire conversation seem far more ridiculous than it should be.
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The point is, when you're posting in a thread called "conspiracy", and start arguing about Atlantean energy crystals, Illuminati mind control, and how aliens helped Hitler, then you're really in no position to call each others' posts rubbish.
In other words, everything that's been discussed here is entirely contingent -- which means that while none of it is necessarily false, it's all also lightyears away from possessing any objective truth value. So the only thing that you actually succeed in doing when you single out the "rubbish" opinions of others is to make this entire conversation seem far more ridiculous than it should be.
Illuminati mind control is real and documented. It's not conspiracy theory. Project MK Ultra. That's the difference here. People who know and people who don't. It's only conspiracy theory or " lightyears away from possessing any objective truth value." If you don't understand that's it was already top secret, had the lid blown off or unsealed, documented and then exposed.
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The point is, when you're posting in a thread called "conspiracy", and start arguing about Atlantean energy crystals, Illuminati mind control, and how aliens helped Hitler, then you're really in no position to call each others' posts rubbish.
In other words, everything that's been discussed here is entirely contingent -- which means that while none of it is necessarily false, it's all also lightyears away from possessing any objective truth value. So the only thing that you actually succeed in doing when you single out the "rubbish" opinions of others is to make this entire conversation seem far more ridiculous than it should be.
Intersection, Conspiracy is an incredibly broad term. Therefore in a topic about 'conspiracy' it's like talking about 'America' or some other kind of insanely broad topic, there are no clear distinctive lines to what is too outlandish for some because that's the general nature of conspiracy, and its natures varies vastly in scale.
Using the words ridiculous and conspiracy in a thread re: conspiracy is in and of itself, ridiculous.
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I personally am not a conspiracy theorist, and for many of the conspiracies, such as aliens, I don't really have much to say either way on the subject. But I would like to point out a few of the reasons I do say that a majority of conspiracy theorists are barking up the wrong tree with many of their ideas about occult involvement in certain circles, especially Aleister Crowley. For one thing, it's constantly pointed out that Crowley was a Golden Dawn member at one time, and that he therefore knew some of the well-to-do members, and this is often used as evidence of him being behind certain political acts. However, what is usually left out of these accounts is the story of what happened to the Golden Dawn, and why Crowley left. The fact is, he was not liked by the majority of members, and he was refused the higher grades because of his bisexuality. After his departure, he and the founder, MacGregor Mathers, had a nasty and public feud in court. Shortly after, the Order crumbled. Also, the founder, Mathers, was a coward scared to death of any sort of "negative" entities or Black Magic. He once pulled a pistol on a member and started screaming at him out of fear because said member would not stomp chanting a mantra meant to rouse Shiva. The inner "secrets" of the Golden Dawn were very basic, and didn't go much farther than basic ceremonial magic, tarot reading, and astral projection. The often said statement that sex magic was practiced there is completely wrong, caused by confusion with Crowley's later work after leaving the Order. In truth, their leader, Mathers, never even made it to the top of his own grade system.
As for Crowley and the Nazis, yes, it is true that the Nazis, mostly Himmler, were interested in utilizing occult powers. It is also true that Crowley made an attempt through one of his German members to influence Hitler. But, it didn't happen. Instead, once Hitler came to power, Crowley's O.T.O. lodges were singled out for persecution just the same as Jews and homosexuals, and all of Crowley's German followers who didn't get out in time were hauled off to concentration camps. The thing is, there are many factions and opposing camps in occultism, and the Nazis' brand of occultism was far removed and in many ways diametrically opposed to the system in use by Crowley. Furthermore, while we can't prove it, Crowley always claimed that he was consulted by the British government for tips on how to counteract the Nazis' occultism, or, at the very least, get some ideas as to unnerve the Nazi leadership by making it look like they were countering with occultism of their own. According to Crowley, he told Churchill that the Nazis are obviously obsessed with Solar forms of spiritual energy, so, he told Churchill to make the "V for victory" hand gesture as often as possible in public, because in the system Crowley learned in the Golden Dawn, that hand sign represents Typhon, so he hoped it would make the Nazis nervous that Churchill was utilizing a lunar current against their solar one.
And there is no need to speculate on which spirits Crowley was invoking in certain famous cases, such as the time in the desert when he allowed himself to be possessed by Choronozon (not Thoth, mind you) as a test of his will and as part of his pathwork on the Tree of Life. This was his method of "Crossing the Abyss." Crowley kept voluminous diaries and wrote and published his activities on a regular basis. But, I suppose it's sometimes funner to some, or makes it seem scarier and more sinister, to speculate on Crowley's activities rather than just dig into the source material and hear it from the man himself. In short, what I'm getting at is trying to learn about occultists from sources hostile to occultists is about as useful as learning about Judaism from a White Supremacist.
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Is it the same god? Are you sure about that? Because the Old Testament God says not to use any symbol to represent his worship. Idols, etc. In fact, the way i read it, the bible makes it clear that idol worship starts after satan is cast from heaven. Sun worship is satans revenge for this. At least, that's what the bible says. I know that this ancient alien thing claims that all these gods are the same, and for the most part, they are. But the God of the Old Testament seems to be a clear example of something a little different.
Are you taking the bible as literal fact? Don't. The bible was written by the Holy Roman Empire three centuries after Christ's death. 44+ volumes of the original Jesus scriptures were deliberately left out of the final product because they did not "fit" with the Roman's agenda. The bible in and of itself is based off Christ's teachings, however it is heavily slandered with Roman propaganda and ideology. Satan is actually different elements that were all packed together to create the evil equivalent of god. Elements such as the goat (or Capricorn), Pan, etc. The Pentagram was turned up-side down and then painted with a goat's head in the center. Before the existence of the early churches, Satan himself did not even exist. He was pure Roman propaganda to instill fear into an illiterate society. The truth is there is no great evil equal to that of God because God has no equal. God is God, since the beginning, and ever after throughout eternity. Satan came about because of us. Because of our ignorant finite minds. Humans are capable of both good and evil, and it is through our imperfection that we made a very big catastrophe out of Christ's teachings.
1999 turned upside down is the numbers 1 and 666.
The origins of the number 666 (or 616) is the address of the infamous Roman Emperor Nero. Look the guy up, he's really sick in the head. And was the worst of the three Emperors; Caligula - Claudius - Nero.
This quote is absolute rubbish and i won't entertain it. You are no mod and your not claiming any high ground by acting like one.
It's not about being a mod. It's about being respectful to other poster on this forum. The rules thread is quite clear about specific details that will not be tolerated here, no-matter who you are. If you haven't read the rules (and your current attitude would suggest so) I suggest you read it. I am no mod nor will I claim to be. That would be playing arrogance and I've got a zero-tolerance policy when it comes to the human ego. And in terms of what you might find to be rubbish it's all in your head and thus is not fact. Different people, different opinions. If you can't have a civilized discussion without drawing swords then that's your issue.
What are all these references to us, lol.
The "rest of us are" those who posted on this thread besides you and me.
Loved the read K.K. Drunkinsk :) Didn't know about the Aleister Crowley, Nazi thing until Morning Star mentioned it, however you filled in pretty much all the blanks.
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Nah man, i don't take the bible literal. Especially not the New Testament. I will be the first one to admit how corrupt it is. I know that in order to get people to convert that it was bridged with paganism, lol. The cross in my avatar is just better than a demon, that's all. I'm an Old Testament man. And don't even try to say the Romans wrote that ;) We have a difference of opinion about satan though. He is mentioned in the Old Testament. However, many modern interpretations (New Testament) do add things to his profile that are.. Questionable to say the least :) Nero.. Yeah, i am aware of that. It's a theory that's gained moderate support. But the thing people need to understand is that these symbols of evil have been adopted and are being used by the illuminati today in order to express their agenda using symbolism that people will recognize. If their motivation is pure, why adopt symbolism that is generaly accepted as representing evil? That's a tough one to answer man, i don't care how you look at it. We went a little far with this Crowley thing. The guy was just an illuminati pawn. He was used to advance an agenda. As well as the other members of the dawn. The dawn itself was founded under direct order from top illuminati members. It had a purpose.
Far as the ego thing. Not so much ego as a short temper. I lost my cool a bit. I do that. I do apologize for that. To all that have seen my posts as offensive, sorry guys.
I also agree about KK's post. A good read. Lots of good information there. But it does give rise to a greater point and something that i have been trying to express this entire time. I will get around to that later when i have more time. It involves all the members of golden dawn and how much influence they have on things that are more relevant now than they were at that time. Very strange stuff. That much influence originating from the same place at almost the exact same time.. I can prove that it's part of a much larger agenda. One that proves that communism has always been funded by capatilists. That Hitler was illuminati. That these people have been playing all the ends against eachother for a very long time. That no matter what modern form of spirituality you practice, it's really just a branch of the original illuminati theology. All brought to you by the Knights Templar and their banking system that was funded by the spoils of crusade. Truth is stranger than fiction.
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Far as the ego thing. Not so much ego as a short temper. I lost my cool a bit. I do that. I do apologize for that. To all that have seen my posts as offensive, sorry guys.
No problems Morning Star ;) We all get angry but it's because we're only human. I think the reason why you got short with me was because I was not seeing your point of view. It's not a good idea to expect something of someone else because all you're doing is setting yourself up for possible disappointment. One of the rules I live my life by is "Not to expect anything". It's much less of a hassle that way. I will not expect you to see my points of view either. But the only thing I do know that we have in common is Castlevania ;D
I've noticed that you got quite the image collection of the sacred triangle. The intersecting Tetrahedral. A simple mathematical shape, yet the strongest form of creation in existence. It can be found everywhere you look. Not only in nature but also in symbology as you've pointed out. Do you believe it to be evil? Me personally, No. It's the blueprint of all existence. God's blueprint. The Tibetan Tree of Life contains within it the Scared Triangle if you know what to look for. Even the Ark of the covenant contains within it this simple yet powerful artifact of creation which is why the Ark was able to to do all those things that were written about it. There's just no escaping it because it's also what make up our existence too. It can be found all over the world in different forms yet it's, at the same time, the same thing. People use it's symbology for many different purposes. Some good, some evil, yet we all use it, it's what makes us 'us' and that's what we all have in common.
I'm an Old Testament man.
This tells me quite a bit about you now that you've mentioned it.
And don't even try to say the Romans wrote that
The Romans didn't write Jesus' scriptures. His disciples did on what is known as the Jesus scrolls. These scrolls contain absolutely no references to Satan, Lucifer or anything dogmatic and negative in any way. Those elements came later by the Romans. Jesus simply taught the people positive messages; about a God of infinite love, wisdom, patients; an infinite being of all-knowing and all-seeing and complete understanding. He kept his teachings simple and not complex. He also taught us that we are only human and that we make mistakes. The term "Thou shall not sin" is absolutely impossible for us as we are only human. The Bible itself was not put together until three centuries later By the Emperor Constantine, when he united all the churches and brought about the Holy Roman Empire. And the first Old Testament books that were complied were used by his Empire to spread Christianity throughout Europe. This gave the empire it's 'second wind' so to speak. Constantine met with each of the leaders of the once separate christian faculties and decided on what would go into the bible, what would remain intact, and most importantly, what was omitted. I would personally rather indulge in reading the Jesus scrolls as they give out his complete teachings.
That no matter what modern form of spirituality you practice, it's really just a branch of the original illuminati theology.
Spirituality is not an Illuminati invention because the Illuminati does not go back to the beginnings of humanity. It can't. It's organization is too complex for a bunch of simple-minded primitive hominids to create. Spirituality is straightforward, very simple and was the first on the scene when the first peoples' became aware of death and started to wonder "what comes next..?". Like I had mentioned with Witchcraft, it is ancient. Unlike organized religion which is far more recent, spirituality is all about you and your sacred connection to God.
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I can't remember the last time somebody misquoted me as many times as you have, lol.
One example.
I said "Modern spirituality", not spirituality in general. I never said spirituality was an illuminati invention. You are either confused or misleading people.
I will explain...
Modern wicca is NOT ancient witchcraft. (As much as every modern practitioner would like it to be). Thelema is NOT traditional paganism. (Even though the modern prophet has given us all the direction for the new age, lol) The Old Testament is not even the ancient, real, Hebrew texts. Lots of Jews will line up to tell you that. Christianity has been infiltrated with all manner of random religious beliefs. It's like a Frankenstein monster to be honest. Scientology is just a Joke! And satanism... Well.. I believe i already mentioned how that was influenced by Crowley, Gardner, hell, all of em! If Christianity is a Frankenstein monster, satanism is certainly represents the bride of Frankenstein. But again, they all are to be frank about it.
History is being altered even as we speak. They recreate truths daily. The idea of accepting this was driven into minds with Indiana Jones, lol. Mockingbird again. Now they can say they found shit that rewrites history every day and people just go, derp, ok.. They don't understand, the same people who do the research are being paid to follow a script. They do it in congress. Believe that they do it here as well. They rewrite history online while doing away with traditional physical forms of history. Just like CDs and video games. It won't be long and you won't get to buy a physical copy of these things anymore. That's preconditioning to accept it where it really counts. All physical historical texts. And you can believe your new reality because Indiana jones was a cool guy, remember?
History can be a lie agreed upon. I think Napolean said that. Tell a lie. Make it big. Tell it often enough and people will believe it. Hitler? Clearly these are not exact quotes. These are from my memory, not google.
Do you think the Jews chose Solomon's seal to be the standard on the flag of Israel? The Star of David/shield of David/Solomon's seal, is an abomination of the Jewish faith. And it's also something they never asked for. It didn't even show up as a symbol until the late Middle Ages. During the... Yep, Holy Roman Empire ;D The symbol itself is used by the occult to invoke and control demons. The rebirth of the nation state of Israel was part of an illuminati Zionist agenda in the late 1800s. The nazis were the 'final solution' to how they would finally get it accomplished. As the nazis themselves were funded and directed by the illuminati. Only 28% of Jews even support the idea of Zionism. The movement was started by the illuminati. It was done in the same fashion as they used when they started the uprising in the Ukraine. Since the end of the American civil war, the illuminati has been very busy. Check this shit out. This is from document about the history on the Israeli flag.
Coincidence or Epiphany?
How could four people — one in Switzerland, one in Israel, and two in the United States — come up with the same flag design? Was it just a coincidence, or could it have been something supernatural in nature?
I would argue that the Lord moved on their hearts with the same design and did so to affirm the fact that their design was the one that should be adopted by the new state.
How many ways can you say wow? That's crazy.
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Thelema is NOT traditional paganism. (Even though the modern prophet has given us all the direction for the new age, lol)
You're correct. I would just like to point out that Thelema never claimed to be, and is not meant to be, a revival of an ancient form of paganism. It is meant to be a new form of religion which disposes of all old systems, the ancient forms of Paganism included. It doesn't do away with the old deities, but puts them in an entirely new frame of reference. People often try to lump Thelema in with things such as Wicca which falsely believe they are doing something ancient, but that's unfair, because Thelema openly states it is new, not old.
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I said "Modern spirituality", not spirituality in general. I never said spirituality was an illuminati invention.
It sounded that way since it wasn't clarified till now. So it was confusing there for a bit.
You are either confused or misleading people.
Just confused. To mislead someone would be to lie to them and I cannot do that to those whom I've known for quite a while now. Nor would I want to lie to anyone as that wouldn't make me feel good inside, but rotten. Also we were never given the right to judge one-another, harshly or otherwise.
The symbol itself is used by the occult to invoke and control demons.
This is where we will have to to agree to disagree. The Blueprint of God's design does not, nor has it even involved invoking demons, much less controlling them. That's all us and has nothing to do with the Intersecting Tetrahedral. We are the ones responsible for such things and not God's design. We're imperfect remember? And thus make mistakes and even claim lies to be the hard truth. But even then demons do not exist in reality as many of the western religions claim. Church propaganda remember? Demons are great for story-telling and I've used references to them also in some of my writings, but they are unrealistic when it comes to common sense which many religions sadly don't practice enough of. Many demons were created out of flight's of fancy and inexplicable things and events. Others because the people didn't know what to tell the authorities about what they didn't understand they were experiencing, or dealing with. Still others demons were brought about by church doctrine itself by using gods, deities, and even animals of former religions and spirituality. Christianity claims the serpent is evil when in truth it represents power, creation and fertility. A very ancient symbol of spirituality. And animals by nature are not evil. They don't have our human weaknesses or intelligence to make them think the thought or decide to become evil. It's simply not in their nature. but it is in our nature. We were given free will and this has allowed us the decision to be good, evil, or somewhere in between. We were deliberately made to be this way as a part of our learning experiences. And we need to learn to take responsibility for those weaknesses if we are ever to move on.
I can't remember the last time somebody misquoted me as many times as you have, lol.
It's for the better in that regard. I find keeping track of the little things to be too emotionally bogging. It's best not to carry useless weight around so that way you can feel just that much lighter. Otherwise you'd feel like Atlas; The Titan whom holds the weight of the world on his shoulders.
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Me >I can't remember the last time somebody misquoted me as many times as you have, lol.
X >It's for the better in that regard. I find keeping track of the little things to be too emotionally bogging. It's best not to carry useless weight around so that way you can feel just that much lighter. Otherwise you'd feel like Atlas; The Titan whom holds the weight of the world on his shoulders.
Me > LMAO!!!! This is like the anthem these days is it not. YOLO!!!!! Am I right ;) No I didn't overlook the fact that you just called all mi information pointless bullshit. I am just focusing on the part that says your lazy and ignorant because your too fragile to handle or care about the truth :D
In closing.. Nothing short of WOW! What an example for others..
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Me > LMAO!!!! This is like the anthem these days is it not. YOLO!!!!! Am I right ;) No I didn't overlook the fact that you just called all mi information pointless bullshit. I am just focusing on the part that says your lazy and ignorant because your too fragile to handle or care about the truth :D
In closing.. Nothing short of WOW! What an example for others..
*Sigh* so you're going to personally attack me once more all because I've not seen your point of view or that you have failed to change my mind as you were expecting to? That's the wrong attitude to bring to a forum. Any forum for that matter. You cannot force change on another individual that has rights and freedoms under the law. And under God. To do so personally violates their rights. But enough of this. This topic has gone off the deep end somewhat. More then what I was hoping for. You seemed like an intelligent fellow but decided very quickly that painting a target reticle on my head would be better for you since I "wasn't cooperating" with you according to your ego. Did you truly apologize to me before the last time? I feel it was superficial in it's meaning. Scoring points to attempt to get on my good side so you could try your tactic once again. After this recent comment I don't really believe you actually meant it. As I had surmised before, you being an Old testament kind of guy really told me a lot about you. This is the 21st century and not the dark ages. No Witch hunts are acceptable in this day and age. Or in any age for that matter.
To any and all Moderators here please feel free to lock the thread. Morning Star has invited me to ask for it's closure.
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X, you don't get to ask for a thread to be closed. We determine that based on our monitoring of said threads.
However, this thread WILL NOW be closed because people couldn't be trusted to keep things civil, as Bloodreign asked on Page 2.
This is why you can't have nice things.
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That ship is my admin powers administering the Lock.