The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => Fan Stuff => Topic started by: BLOOD MONKEY on April 19, 2014, 03:01:45 AM
Title: I need help with a game.
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on April 19, 2014, 03:01:45 AM
If I where to create a Metroidvania game in the style of SOTN, what programming language should I use? Python, Java, C++. etc. Anything goes. I am planning to create a sequel game to SOTN based on Castlevania Nocturne of Reminiscence.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: theplottwist on April 19, 2014, 04:56:32 AM
As someone whos working with games and the such, I'd advice you to use Game Maker and it's built-in language. I found it much much easier than any other language I tried (and I'm no programmer), with fairly powerful results. Google "Esco Castlevania" to see someone who's remaking SotN with Game Maker, and look here on this very forum for a Haunted Castle remake being made by Dracula9, they both demonstrate that one is able to make a perfect copy of Castlevania mechanics, both classic and modern ones, and even better things.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: VladCT on April 19, 2014, 05:16:42 AM
With Game Maker, you'll have to buy standard edition to make anything worth a damn though. If you want to do it from scratch instead of using an engine, you might want to try C++. Uzo was working on a nice-looking Castlevania project with it, until...well, to grossly sum it up, real life happened.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: theplottwist on April 19, 2014, 05:27:56 AM
If I where to create a Metroidvania game in the style of SOTN, what programming language should I use? Python, Java, C++. etc. Anything goes. I am planning to create a sequel game to SOTN based on Castlevania Nocturne of Reminiscence.
Well, he never said "free language". Game Maker DOES do some cool things on the free editions, but indeed, he'll have to buy it so he can have access to everything the engine can do.
PERSONALLY, the money was one of the best I ever spent. Even though Game Maker Studio is still in development (with new features being added in real time to it, sometimes o.O), I was finally able to kick forth my projects and am seeing them finally gaining life.
For me, it was the easiest experience, with the quickest payoff. But, as VladCT put, C++ might also be good, since it was my second option to learning Game Maker.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: Kale on April 19, 2014, 06:27:06 AM
Don't start from scratch. Really... just don't. Unless you're planning to do it purely for learning. It will take much longer, and you'll probably quit because of how arduous it'll be.
That said, if you do... I'd say use something like C# or Java, one of the ones that has an API you can take advantage of.
Also, even though I don't use Game Maker, I did play with it a bit. And they're right. It really does not take long to get something working. Hell, making a character move back and forth on a platform took like 20 minutes and zero code (iirc).
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on April 19, 2014, 01:53:00 PM
All right. I'll try Gamemaker out. I tried it once, but never got very far. Should I make a gamemaker CV engine from scratch? I've barely even touched it before.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: TheRetroArtist on April 19, 2014, 02:54:03 PM
I found a few tutorials on youtube that helped me make a castlevania engine. I never finished the engine, but I learned a lot from it.
how to make 8-bit castlevania movement on game maker part 1 of 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4YirPuXsJE#)
This is for 8 bit castlevania, but I think you can also apply it to any sort of castlevania game.
how to make a CastleVania game part 1, walking, crouching, jumping (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXpQxEzCRMw#)
Here's another one by the same person on making a castlevania game Dracula X style.
I'm not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, but I hope it helps.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: Dracula9 on April 19, 2014, 06:07:07 PM
Hey, ZeroSaber. Never thought I'd see you on here. It's Lamda Bamda from Inc.
Did you drop that X9 project you had going, or are you just pulling for multiple ones at once?
If it's a Metroidvania engien you're looking for, I have LeoPedrozo's old one for Game Maker I can send your way. It's not perfect and needs a lot of fine-tuning, but most of the basics are there.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on April 19, 2014, 11:01:54 PM
Hey Lamba! No, I dropped X9 :(. It's not really the style of game I would really enjoy making. Also, go ahead and send the engine. Is it any good?
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on April 22, 2014, 07:15:27 PM
I might as well post some ideas. :P 1. Richter alt. Outfit 2. Maria alt. Outfit 3. Maria alt. Outfit 2 4. Capeless Alucard
Clickteam Forums have loads of examples and help for people trying to create games especially 2D ones. It's even better now that Fusion 2.5 is out and you can even buy a guide for 2.5 on the Clickteam Forums through Amazon on top of the endless youtube vids and sites with working examples.
A lot of people tend to hate on MMF2 because it does have a steep learning curve if you don't invest the time with it but I didn't find anything wrong with it and this is my 1st game I have ever made with it.
Clickteam Forums: http://community.clickteam.com/forum.php (http://community.clickteam.com/forum.php) Working Tutorials: http://www.castles-of-britain.com/mmf2tutorials.htm (http://www.castles-of-britain.com/mmf2tutorials.htm)
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on April 25, 2014, 08:28:27 PM
I tried MMF2 about a year ago. It didn't work too good for me. :( Does anybody know how to make a slide code for a SOTN size Richter Belmont in GMK 8? I can't figure out how to.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: Dracula9 on April 25, 2014, 09:05:30 PM
I've got an engine you can use, I just have to locate the extra hard drive it's on. Due to a problem I ran into Saturday, I moved it somewhere and have to find it again.
tl;dr found bedbugs, proceeded to move everything, wrap and pitch the bed/boxspring, and napalm the living fuck out of everything in my living space every other day
and of course i forgot which trashbag/box i put the drive in :/
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on April 26, 2014, 12:03:14 AM
Alright, thanks Dracula9. Also, what do you guys think of my sprites? I found an engine and started working on it, but I can't seem to get the slide to work for Richter. Here's the engine (slide sprites are already on there) http://www.filedropper.com/gamephysics (http://www.filedropper.com/gamephysics)
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: TheRetroArtist on April 26, 2014, 12:08:32 AM
Hey I know how to add a slide feature. I can make a tutorial for that if you want.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on April 26, 2014, 12:12:33 AM
Can you make one please? Also, I still have lite.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: TheRetroArtist on April 26, 2014, 12:31:07 AM
Ok sure thing. I think it will be able to do it in lite.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: Dracula9 on April 26, 2014, 09:22:55 PM
I don't recall if it's Pro-only or not, I didn't have the time to check before I left today. In the event it is, I can probably edit it to being Lite-usable. But like I said, it needs a lot of work.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on April 27, 2014, 01:11:36 PM
Dracula, I'm sorry for asking you now. So far, the engine I have is getting better. The only thing I could see having a use for is the enemies. Do you know if you can copy/paste parts of an engine to another engine?
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: Dracula9 on April 29, 2014, 04:04:05 PM
Don't be, it happens.
And yeah, you can do it one of two ways. Since GM8's import/export feature is fucking retarded and done horribly, there's little chance you'd be able to import my engine's stuff into yours (well, not MY engine, but you get what I mean). The other way, though a little more tedious, is simply having two GM windows open, and copy-pasting the code text from one to the other.
Title: Re: I need help with a game.
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on May 26, 2014, 06:00:31 PM
Yeesh. It's been a while. The slide feature. :( I can't seem to get it to work. I tried using the tutorial you gave me, but the coding isn't compatible. Here's the engine so far. The old demo I put up is broken now. :( Here's the vanilla engine : http://www.4shared.com/file/cmQVD7gVba/Game_Physics__1_.html? (http://www.4shared.com/file/cmQVD7gVba/Game_Physics__1_.html?)