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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Qwertyvania on August 17, 2014, 07:54:27 PM
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If there was to be only one Castlevania movie, which game would you want it to be based off of?
Don't necessarily choose something because it's your favorite game, base it more off of which you think has the best story for a movie
They can also be parts of the story that haven't been in games, such as the Demon Caste War of 1999, or the point between the 11th and 15th century where the Belmonts were banished.
I would probably either say Harmony of Dissonance or Aria of Sorrow
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i would say cv3: draculas curse. it has a diverse cast of characters, great setting & backdrop & perfect introduction to the mythos. can also throw in hector & isaac and their relationship with dracula. the main heroes can have conflict on their motives, alucard being against his father but at the same time torn because it is his father, grant being bent on revenge but also being blind to anyone else's efforts which might hurt him in the long run, sypha being hunted as a witch, trevor of course redeeming his family's name, etc. the list goes on. also can have flashbacks that feature lisa & dracula's relationship & why he turned against humanity
cv3 has the most potential to be a great CV movie
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I would say probably CV3 as well, for the same reasons as Crisis has already given. The Sorrow arc/Demon Castle War of '99 likewise definitely have potential, but would probably work better as later films in a series. I also think that LoS has a lot of potential as well to work as a nice trilogy, given its epic movie style and soundtrack. Heck, a good amount of the casting has already been done for us, considering the actors involved. It's just a shame that Robert Carlyle doesn't really have the physical stature to play Gabe, as he really does a superb job voicing him.
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The one with most potential, for me, is The Adventure + Belmont's Revenge.
We got so much going on on those games. We have a father-son relationship, we have a passing ceremony, we have a nice plot involving Dracula manipulating Christopher's son. We could get two movies out of that EASILY, but even easier would be getting one VERY GOOD movie out of both stories;
The movie would start with introducing us to Christopher's life. His family and his infant son. Shortly after, Dracula is introduced (which could also tell us about Trevor's previous exploit against Dracula) and Christopher's mission is set. From that, fast action until Dracula is defeated (which would be halfway into the movie). Then we have the events of Belmont's Revenge. Christopher is old, and is at his son passing ceremony, Soleyu disappears with the Vampire Killer after wreaking havoc and promising to bring Dracula back using the power of the whip. The whip was already introduced at the movie's start as being the "ultimate weapon" against Dracula, and now it's gone. Christopher goes after his son, and finds him at Dracula's Castle's ruins (for us, of course, it'd be no secret that this is Dracula's doing, but it'd be nice to introduce Soleyu as the "villain" just to subvert it later reintroducing Dracula). They battle, Christopher using another whip against Soleyu's Vampire Killer, and Christopher wins, establishing that being powerful is more than simply wielding the whip. It's then revealed that Soleyu is possessed just as we see Dracula being "exorcised" from Soleyu's body. He takes shape, and attacks Christopher, almost killing him., because now he's powerful from having leeched Soleyu's blood/soul and Christopher is old. But then Soleyu steps up, and fight alongside his father to defeat Dracula once and for all.
Notice how I left out the "four castles" thing. This, I think, would be silly to translate into a movie. It'd be much better (I think) if Soleyu was simply introduced as a villain, but then revealed to be possessed.
A post-credit scene would start with the words "100 years later...".
We see people celebrating Easter as a this song plays:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tDYMayp6Dk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tDYMayp6Dk)
Then we get a badass contrast of jumpcuts. We see a red haired man marrying a young woman, colorful decoration and happy people, and at the same time a dark ritual, inside a tattered building, going on (all with the song above playing for both). The scene jumps between both events quickly between the priest saying his lines full of hope and promise, and the dark priest saying his chaotic, opposite lines. And it finishes with the newlyweds saying their votes just as we see Dracula opening his eyes inside his tomb, and getting the final bit of the song distorted. Yeah, a cinematic representation of Haunted Castle's intro.
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It's just a shame that Robert Carlyle doesn't really have the physical stature to play Gabe, as he really does a superb job voicing him.
Who ever said that it had to be a live action movie. I could be CG. Then again, we pretty much already have that concerning the LoS trilogy. I mean the games themselves we like interactive movies.
I do believe that CV3 would make a good basis for a movie along the same lines of what Crisis said.
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As others have said CV3. I've actually thought a little about this.
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I do prefer CV3 above all else. It has the usual ingredients needed to keep the movie goers interested, the hero, the strong love interest, the side-kick (sorry Grant), the tragic Drac family, etc.
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A live action movie would probably end up being horribly embarrassing. At least, if they would directly adapt a game from the IGAverse (which would be a bad idea to begin with). The universe is too fantastical and "video gamey" for it to be turned into a film anyone could take seriously.
The only thing that would work well would be if they made an OVA or anime series, because then they would come closest to capturing the spirit of the games in ways a live action movie never could. Like everybody else said, CV3 is pretty much perfect since it's a good jumping on point for newcomers, and it would be a good opportunity to make the events depicted match more closely with the aesthetics and continuity IGA later introduced.
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I've been thinking about it a bit more, and it struck me that perhaps some sort of prequel to LoI could be very interesting, followed by an adaptation of LoI. There's lots of room for interesting stuff, showing Leon and Mathias's friendship during the Crusades, before Elizabeta died. Like with LoS1, showing Mathias's descent into madness could be a lot of fun even though it wouldn't start off very Castlevania-y.
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If a CV III movie was ever made I would not want to see any CoD elements or characters in it as that's not the CV III I remember growing up with. I think both CV I and CV II would make a good candidate for a movie like so;
We start off with the prologue of the film; Classic CV I and Simon's final battle between him and Dracula. The remains of Dracula's followers are strewn about the empty hallways as well as the six defeated guardians (it would make for a grisly scene. After Dracula dies and we see the infamous castle crumbling sequence then we get to main part of the movie where Simon is living out his days in peace but starts to succumb to an illness and physical stress that he cannot explain. At the same time creatures of the night prowl the lands once more, and Transylvania falls on hard times due to massive crop failures triggering rampant famine, and the Black Plague rears its ugly head once more. While traveling to a nearby cemetery Simon receives a visitation from a woman spirit who tells him of what has transpired since his fight with the Count. She also tells Simon of his condition and that the only way to save himself and the land is to collect Dracula's remains and burn them in order to end the curse. Then Simon's quest begins. Many minor elements in the game could have bigger roles like the Crystal knights. They could aid Simon as his mission to free the land is also their cause.
Having Simon's quest told in a movie rather then a game would add lot's of depth and the story that most of us never got to hear about and see in the game itself. And no, the woman in the cemetery would not be Sara as I'd rather see the CV movie presented as the classic games were; without the IGA elements. It should be something to stand on it's own and told in a classic light as the games themselves were. A reference to Trevor Belmont could be in there just to help ties things together with CV III but that's as far as I would want it to be taken.
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I agree with what has been said, CV3 would do a great film. I would even put some Lisa/Dracula stuff as a prologue to set the thing up.
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I can't say I've ever really thought about it for more than a moment...some games have made good movies, but I always fear another Mario Bros. fiasco, y'know?
But then, everyone's ideas sound great! I'd have to cast my vote with either the CV3 story (though I'd be one who'd WANT the CoD mix thrown in somehow...it just seems like they'd need more stuff to make it a good movie), or the LoI story. And while I would wish to see my favorite game (Legacy of Darkness) in a movie, I don't really see any way that could possibly be adapted to be any good. I mean...I guess Reinhardt and Carrie (and Henry too!) could be doing stuff in different parts of the castle at the same time, giving you some stories to jump between, but it just doesn't seem like there's enough to really make a story out of, live-action or otherwise.
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Castlevania 3, definitely.
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Lords of Shadow.
Don't get me wrong; I'd love to see CV3 like most everyone here. But LOS is just more... adaptable to Hollywood than classic CV.
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LoS is pretty much Castlevania: The Movie: The Game.
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If they did make a CV1 movie they would have to add in other characters because the film would be dull if Simon was the only hero.
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If they did make a CV1 movie they would have to add in other characters because the film would be dull if Simon was the only hero.
Simon is the only hero to take on Dracula. That's what the game was pretty much about. Also the monsters and the six Guardians could have some relevance to the progression of the story as well. Kinda like what we see in Vampire Hunter D where the two sides have interactions with each other before a conflict ensues. We have to remember that Simon went in to Castlevania alone to battle the Count. There was no-one else with him. This is another reason why CV I would better serve as an opening for the main film which would be CV II. In CV II there are many characters and areas to exploit for plot development. Death is back once more to menace Simon and there's also Carmilla.
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I'd have to cast my vote with either the CV3 story (though I'd be one who'd WANT the CoD mix thrown in somehow...it just seems like they'd need more stuff to make it a good movie), or the LoI story.
I remember thinking of a list of sources that could be used to expand the plot of a CV3 adaptation once. Here's what I came up with:
- CoD is of course the obvious choice. Though I must admit, putting in Hector or Isaac would be difficult since they can't really interact with Trevor and co. So their presence might be kind off pointless.
- LoI. This is very important for exposition purposes and a nice way to expand the plot.
- The radio drama. They could use Lyudmil, Alucard's friend. One extra person for him to interact with.
- The Nocturne in the Moonlight Manga. (http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Konami_Magazine_Nocturne_in_the_Moonlight_Manga) It has the scene where Dracula finds Lisa's body. They should definitely use that.
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Simon is the only hero to take on Dracula. That's what the game was pretty much about. Also the monsters and the six Guardians could have some relevance to the progression of the story as well. Kinda like what we see in Vampire Hunter D where the two sides have interactions with each other before a conflict ensues. We have to remember that Simon went in to Castlevania alone to battle the Count. There was no-one else with him. This is another reason why CV I would better serve as an opening for the main film which would be CV II. In CV II there are many characters and areas to exploit for plot development. Death is back once more to menace Simon and there's also Carmilla.
By opening do you mean like how RoB is the opening of SotN? Also if you gave the monsters like Death or Medusa some character development I could see it working. I know Simon went in alone but while one thing works for a game it might not work as well for a movie. That's why like others have said CV3 would be the best because you have more to work with imo.
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By opening do you mean like how RoB is the opening of SotN?
Essentially just like that, yes. CV II would be the bulk of the movie but CV I would be the movie's introduction, showing us what had transpired. I agree that CV I with it's lack of characters would be rather difficult to do, but having it as a starting point would work out rather well.
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Yeah I could totally see that working
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More or less we've come up with a movie focusing on CV3 (with all of those possible backstories) by majority
vote post.
X's opinion on a CV2 adaptation is also valid btw.
Who do you think is the ideal director for this movie?
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More or less we've come up with a movie focusing on CV3 (with all of those possible backstories) by majority vote post.
X's opinion on a CV2 adaptation is also valid btw.
Who do you think is the ideal director for this movie?
Me
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If they did make a CV1 movie they would have to add in other characters because the film would be dull if Simon was the only hero.
I see this happening for a couple of reasons:
1. CV1 is the most basic premise of the series. It's basically Simon ventures off to battle Dracula and his minions. Basic plots are easy to embelish without crippling the premise through recons. If you already have a story where character relations are strong and essential to a universe's continuity, the possibility to fuck it up is greater.
2. Because CV1 is one fo the most basic stories, you can add a lot to it while keeping the premise the same. As long as Simon ventures into the castle, fights off zombies, mermen and skeletons and main baddies like Medusa, Frankenstein's Monster, Death and eventually Dracula, that's great. You can add some story of him before that, his relationship with "friends" or even info regarding the Belmont heritage/duty. Hell, you can also add on something like Dracula initiating the fight by sending his armies into the Simon's hometown to kill everyone, or even add a rival vampire hunter(or hunters, like the Marcus Brothers in VHD:Bloodlust) crossing tracks with Simon(and probably getting killed inside the castle). As long as the meat of the basis remains faithful to the game(which was as basic as basic can be), it could work.
To me, the more complex an original story is, the more an adaptation can fuck it up regarding continuity or retcons. The more simplistic a concept is, the more you can go crazy with it when trying to adapt it. Basically, there's MORE room for growth.