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Title: Bring back something retro
Post by: theANdROId on September 19, 2014, 04:55:00 PM
So, after watching that React video with the retro gaming, it made me want to play some retro games.  Then I got to thinking how I wish some of these games would come back, either revamped or all new.

Maybe they aren't the most amazing games...but I think I'd like to see Wizards and Warriors make a comeback somehow.  The three NES titles were freakin' hard games (well, at least the first 2), and I don't really know how they'd add a new title considering how the 3rd ended, but maybe an update or new title would be neat.

Any particular NES era game you'd like to see re-released somehow?  (Maybe one that's not quite as well known?)
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: X on September 19, 2014, 10:20:55 PM
Wizards & Warriors are tough games. I only ever played the one for Gameboy; Wizards & Warriors X: The Fortress of Fear. The only way I ever finished it was using the gameboy game genie.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: theANdROId on September 20, 2014, 02:53:37 AM
I never played the GB one, but I loved the 3 on the NES.  Like I said (sorta), there wasn't much to them...but the music was good, and they were just fun, even if the were hard!  I remember being a kid (and when "Erol's" was the place to rent from - in my neck of the woods) and I always wanted W&W when they had it, even though I usually couldn't even get past level 1 without dad to beat the boss!
I've beaten them all by now.  The third is easy up until the final boss.  I still need luck to get to the end of the first two.


Another game I'd like to see make a comeback is Battletoads!  There were a couple of titles I think, but I only ever played the NES one.  While I have my doubts that Wizards and Warriors could find a place anywhere these days, I would think Battletoads would still work really well!

If there are no lesser-known NES titles you want back, what about SNES, GB or Sega?
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Akumajou Jason XX on September 20, 2014, 03:21:40 AM
Ironsword is definitely tough, but the original Wizards & Warriors is a bit of a cakewalk.  Well, after you've played it start to finish 50 times like I did as a kid.  It would definitely be nice to see a new game in the series, but I'd be afraid it would go the "y so srs" route like Splatterhouse.  It's definitely been a long time since the last Battletoads, at any rate.  It's really weird to see how long Rare has been sitting on that property.  Or maybe it's tied up by Tradewest?

A new Double Dragon would also be good.  Gradius is another.  Actually, forget all that.  I want the sequel to Nightshade on the NES that we never got.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Dracula9 on September 20, 2014, 04:12:38 AM
Metal Storm. No contest.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: X on September 20, 2014, 03:23:13 PM
Vice: Project Doom. This game had a very intriguing and captivating story via cinematics. The plot was solid and to this day I wish they followed up on it. The first game just left me hanging as it clearly spells out sequel at the end. The game itself had three different styles of gameplay. overhead view while driving your car and shooting thugs, first person shooter while the screen scrolled, and finally the well-known side scrolling which is the most prominent of the three. And another game I'll just throw out there would be Codenamed: Viper. This title also deserves a sequel. What happens to you after you figure out your commander is the one dealing out the Hug Drug operation in South America and thus killed him? What becomes of agent Smith after the fact? This game needs a sequel to tell the story.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Lelygax on September 23, 2014, 09:50:09 AM
They should do a new Bomberman game in Super Bomberman-style, with co-op in adventure mode, not only these arena things. Also a new Magical Quest would be cool, imagine a Magical Quest starring Mickey and Goofy lol
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: JR on September 24, 2014, 02:19:30 AM

Maybe they aren't the most amazing games...but I think I'd like to see Wizards and Warriors make a comeback somehow.

YES. That would be pretty awesome. As stupid as it sounds, Dark Souls II kind of reminded me of the first Wizards & Warriors game. Not sure why.


Another game I'd like to see make a comeback is Battletoads!  There were a couple of titles I think, but I only ever played the NES one.  While I have my doubts that Wizards and Warriors could find a place anywhere these days, I would think Battletoads would still work really well!


This could be pretty cool. Though I'd probably have to pass if they made it as hard as the original, with limited continues. The NES game was really well-made, but it's a shame that not many people got to experience much of the later stages, music, etc.

They could always make it a beat-em-up like they did with the arcade version. They cranked up the violence and humor on that one, and it was quite a bit of fun to play. Shame they didn't follow up with a sequel.


A new Double Dragon would also be good. 

Oh man, if only. DD1 for the arcade is one of my all-time favorites, and I'm a big fan of the series in general. It's nice to see the series somewhat staying alive with the mobile games and Neon, but I'd like to see someone progress the series (instead of remakes of the first two games) while staying true to its roots. If I can't have that, I'd be happy with a Neon sequel, I guess.

I wouldn't necessarily want another Eternal Champions per se, but if something could match the sheer brutality of the finishers from the Sega CD version, that would be great. Same deal with Combatribes; it wasn't a great game, but it had some pretty vicious stuff in there (smashing enemies heads into the pavement/into each other, the crime boss being shot and killed before the final fight with Martha Splatterhead, etc.).


Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: theANdROId on September 24, 2014, 12:58:19 PM
This could be pretty cool. Though I'd probably have to pass if they made it as hard as the original, with limited continues. The NES game was really well-made, but it's a shame that not many people got to experience much of the later stages, music, etc.
They could always make it a beat-em-up like they did with the arcade version. They cranked up the violence and humor on that one, and it was quite a bit of fun to play. Shame they didn't follow up with a sequel.

I didn't know there was anything beyond the NES title, the SNES title, and Battletoads and Double Dragon (or was that the SNES title?).  I think I would want it almost "NES-hard", but I wouldn't be completely against it being actually NES-hard.  The difficulty and limited continues was annoying -- I was in my late-teens before I ever got past the "!" Jump-by-yourself section of the jet bikes -- but somehow, for me, the game was made well enough that I never disliked the game.  It stayed fun somehow.
But you're right, it was awfully difficult, and I'm sure that turned people away then, and might turn even more people away now, so dialing back the challenge a little or having a difficulty setting might be a good idea.  Or...wasn't there somewhere that Nintendo/Miyamoto thought about adding an option to let the game beat a level for you if it was too tough, or at least show you how to do it?  That could be another option, as long as it was an option!  I won't judge anyone else for using it, but I'd rather pass.

Bomberman for mobile would be really cool and easy to do I think.
That's a pretty good idea.  I haven't checked, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least a clone or something out there in the app world though.  It could be very easily set up to be a casual game though...play a level or three and close your app to get back to life, then continue where you left off later.  However, the most fun I ever had with a Bomberman game was the multiplayer mode on the 64 game (I forget the title).  With the map layouts, ginormous explosions, "curses", "plagues", and ghosts, that game got pretty frantic when my cousins and I played!
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Inccubus on September 24, 2014, 04:36:19 PM
A modern 2D update to MetalStorm would rock.

I was thinking about playing with some faux mode 7 in game maker the other day and I was looking into Hyper Zone for SNES.
It then occurred to me that Hyper Zone would make a good base for a ROMhack set up as a prequel to Star Fox.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Ratty on September 25, 2014, 12:21:14 PM
Have you played the versions of Ys 1 & 2 available on Steam? Now there's a couple of great retro games remade/updated beautifully.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: shelverton. on September 25, 2014, 01:01:56 PM

Star Tropics deserves a new game, maybe on the 3DS. It could be done in a similar style as A Link Between Worlds. Or something.

Oh, and Demon's Crest! Well, the entire Ghouls'n Ghosts franchise deserves to be brought back tbh. I actually loved the PSP game and I hate how it had to end there (not counting the smartphone games)

Finally, I think this world needs more Plok!

Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Gunlord on September 25, 2014, 03:36:23 PM
Hellz yeah Demon's Crest! I'd love to see a revival of that too :D
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: uzo on September 26, 2014, 11:43:16 AM
Star Tropics deserves a new game, maybe on the 3DS. It could be done in a similar style as A Link Between Worlds. Or something.

THIS THIS THIS THIS, OH GOD THIS
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: AxeLord on September 26, 2014, 08:15:30 PM
I know we've seen a remake and a reboot, but the world needs more retro Bionic Commando.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: theANdROId on September 28, 2014, 03:52:03 PM
Star Tropics deserves a new game, maybe on the 3DS. It could be done in a similar style as A Link Between Worlds. Or something.

Oh, and Demon's Crest! Well, the entire Ghouls'n Ghosts franchise deserves to be brought back tbh.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes!  I would love both of these, especially another StarTropics!  I wish I had some pull/power, or knew someone with it, to get things like this in the making.  Not that I don't enjoy "modern" games, but I'm definitely all about retro stuff, and there's so much of it that I would love to see come back in some form or another.

Probably my favorite things about this thread are remembering old games I've played and need to pull out again, and finding new old games I need to check out!
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: theANdROId on September 29, 2014, 05:02:47 PM
Y'know, another NES game I'd like to see again, or something very similar, is Crystalis.  I thought it was a little confusing at first...I mean, as a kid I never really understood what to do or where to go.  When I came back to it after I was older I really enjoyed the game!  Not a terrible story, and otherwise just fun to play!  The mazes became quite confusing though, so adding a map feature would be nice.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: zangetsu468 on September 29, 2014, 09:30:30 PM
Definitely some Sega games:
-Saint Sword
-Valis III
-Golden Axe I
-Vampyre: Master of Darkness
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: X on September 30, 2014, 04:23:51 PM
@zangetsu468

You could always play the turbo-duo version of Valis III. However I can agree with you. I think the whole Valis series could benefit from a modern release as a compilation.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: zangetsu468 on October 01, 2014, 12:43:06 AM
@zangetsu468

You could always play the turbo-duo version of Valis III. However I can agree with you. I think the whole Valis series could benefit from a modern release as a compilation.

Cool. Valis reminds me of CV with a sword. Valis III reminds me of CV III with the fact you can switch between characters. Good times :)
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Neobelmont on October 01, 2014, 02:04:07 AM
Y'know, another NES game I'd like to see again, or something very similar, is Crystalis.  I thought it was a little confusing at first...I mean, as a kid I never really understood what to do or where to go.  When I came back to it after I was older I really enjoyed the game!  Not a terrible story, and otherwise just fun to play!  The mazes became quite confusing though, so adding a map feature would be nice.

Crystalis-is-a-very-good-game :)

I-want-this

Monster Party - JonTron (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-hB4KZ_RcQ#ws)
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: theANdROId on October 01, 2014, 06:05:08 PM
Not gonna lie...I do too!  That was one of my first thoughts, but I figured it was A) too weird, B) too unknown, and C) too crazy to start this thread with!  I'm glad to see there's another soul in the world who has played and enjoyed the utmost of bizarre games known as Monster Party!
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: theANdROId on November 20, 2014, 02:53:43 AM
Another game I just rediscovered is Shadowgate.  Not the easiest thing to figure your way through, but I love this game!  I don't know how something executed in the same style could do well these days -- with all the love for war, guns, halos, and gears ;-P -- but I sure would love another, newer something like this game!
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Lelygax on November 20, 2014, 01:00:02 PM
Definitely some Sega games:
-Saint Sword
-Valis III
-Golden Axe I
-Vampyre: Master of Darkness

Valis franchise was ruined since hey launched a official hentai game and Golden Axe reboot for X360 was a joke. Even so I would like to see they do a decent new game.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: darkmanx_429 on November 20, 2014, 02:59:25 PM
Next Gen: Battletoads

A true sequel to Starfox/Starfox2/Starfox 64

A next gen remake of the original Xenogears
* closest we may get: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Proyecto-NOAH-Xenogears-Remake/205881596100539 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Proyecto-NOAH-Xenogears-Remake/205881596100539)

A 3-D Chrono Trigger Remake.
*closest we got: Chrono Trigger Resurrection Game Play Footage HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=233kmUiW-Rc#)
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Lelygax on November 20, 2014, 04:10:12 PM
Well, they are bringing Shaq-fu :B

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfEqhmkatog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfEqhmkatog#ws)
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: theANdROId on November 20, 2014, 05:13:07 PM
Yeah!  That one is simultaneously awesome, hilarious, and creepy! ;-P
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Mooning Freddy on December 12, 2014, 05:07:02 PM
A remake of Bionic Commando with the original storyline would be awesome.

A new battletoads would be cool as well.

Also, had anyone beside me played the game "Wurm: Journey to the Center of the Earth"?
The game combined different game styles / genres like sidescroll and overhead shoot-em-up, platforming, and FPS. The game wasn't the greatest ever and could have been much better, but the storyline (in anime-style cutscenes) was interesting enough to deserve a remake. I find the very idea of game that lets you travel to the center of the earth using a futuristic digging vehicle, battling subterranean monsters and discovering subterranean civilizations really cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4eSeUrioQM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4eSeUrioQM)
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: theANdROId on December 13, 2014, 02:07:15 AM
I've never played Bionic Commando, but from what I've seen it looks good!  "Wurm" looks good too!

I've heard many people say they're tired of it, but I'm really enjoying how many developers are using the 8 and 16 bit style in their games.  If it hasn't already, I hope it inspires a bit more love to (and remakes of) games like the ones we've mentioned here!
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Ratty on December 13, 2014, 01:58:49 PM
Y'know, another NES game I'd like to see again, or something very similar, is Crystalis.  I thought it was a little confusing at first...I mean, as a kid I never really understood what to do or where to go.  When I came back to it after I was older I really enjoyed the game!  Not a terrible story, and otherwise just fun to play!  The mazes became quite confusing though, so adding a map feature would be nice.

I played through Crystalis a little while ago and really enjoyed it. If you like it you should check out Soul Blazer if you haven't already. Though the stories and some mechanics are very different I felt like I was playing a de-make of Soul Blazer at times during Crystalis.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: shelverton. on December 13, 2014, 04:12:31 PM
While we're at it, can I have a new Klonoa game plz? The way the levels twist and turns in both Klonoa and Klonoa 2 makes me think that the 3DS would be a fantastic platform for a Klonoa revival. It would put the 3D effect to good... effect.

It's my favorite platformer after Kirby and it should be ILLEGAL not to make at least one more game in this series.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: X on December 13, 2014, 05:11:11 PM
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Also, had anyone beside me played the game "Wurm: Journey to the Center of the Earth"?
The game combined different game styles / genres like sidescroll and overhead shoot-em-up, platforming, and FPS. The game wasn't the greatest ever and could have been much better, but the storyline (in anime-style cutscenes) was interesting enough to deserve a remake. I find the very idea of game that lets you travel to the center of the earth using a futuristic digging vehicle, battling subterranean monsters and discovering subterranean civilizations really cool.

Now here's another one-hit-wonder gem of the NES era. I played this game a while back and finished it too. The story was very deep for its time (no pun intended). I also couldn't help but feel sorry for Ziggy when they found his dead body on a lab table, after you were forced to kill him in his other bastardized Frankenstein body. This game needs a revival as I feel it's one of the best ones out there.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Munchy on December 16, 2014, 04:45:18 AM
I know we've seen a remake and a reboot, but the world needs more retro Bionic Commando.

This. I also legit enjoyed the 3D one and am extremely sad there will never be a sequel to fix its flaws.

Also would love a new Final Fight, Streets of Rage (only if Yuzo Koshiro's on board), Metroid (not nearly as dead as Bionic Commando but still), Contra (not as dead as BC but probably more dead than Metroid because lol Konami), Metal Slug (so dead it's only bleached bones now).

I'd also be legitimately curious to see a 3D Demon's Crest game. Mega Man too, but who knows where Capcom could go with it, it's been reiterated so much. And "robot boy saves the world" is a hard sell these days, I guess...

Considering how fucking great third party guys look in Smash, I'd love HAL Labs or Sora to take a crack at either Mega Man or Sonic. The latter would likely be a better fit.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Neobelmont on December 25, 2014, 01:32:15 AM
Not gonna lie...I do too!  That was one of my first thoughts, but I figured it was A) too weird, B) too unknown, and C) too crazy to start this thread with!  I'm glad to see there's another soul in the world who has played and enjoyed the utmost of bizarre games known as Monster Party!

Nothing is never too weird!  :) But cho aniki for the ps1 really puts that statement into question. anyway I will say fire emblem gaiden needs to come back. But Also how about Jackal? Good game , no wait the Guardian legend! Now that's something.
Title: Re: Bring back something retro
Post by: Belmont Stakes on January 25, 2015, 04:02:31 PM
In no partickler order.
And of course they need to all be refined, re tuned and if needed Redacted. ;D
 
NES

Brahm Stokers Dracula
Shadow of the Ninja
Battle of Olympus
8 Eyes     Even though I know about the conversion project
Adventure of Lolo    greatest puzzler ever but needs a less foofie character
Vice Project Doom
Double Dragon I and II
Faxanadu
G I Joe       
Ghosts and Goblins/Gargoyles Quest  all the games
Golgo 13 and Mafat Conspiracy
Blaster Master
Shadowgate, The Uninvited
TMNT I and II
Star Tropics
Kid Icarus
Guardian Legend
Goonies II

and yes I am going to say it even though it is a terribly flawed game there is potential here
refine and redo

DR JEKYLL AND MR HYDE with better everything


SNES
Nosferatu
Actraiser I II
Demon's Crest
Justice League Fighting Force
TMNT Arcade and Fighter
Lost Vikings

Turbo Graphics 16
Legendary Axe

Genesis
Bloodlines    possibly the most most under (rated and appreciated) CV game