Or maybe it's the same castle since it was sealed and not destroyed?
but that cant be, b/c if there was an actual 1999 game, we all know the castle structure & map would differ vastly from the one in aos for gameplay purposes. unless u guys are arguing that the castle map should be exactly the same and u guys would be ok with that?
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No dude, no... It works, and if they ever make the 1999 game, the game CAN have the same map, while things are slightly different, like having some paths blocked, and other paths open. Or having different routes that Soma doesn't take on his adventure. It's all about leniency.Agreed. I mean when you play 2D side scrolling CVs, you see rooms and other regions in the background that you never get to explore. So, it's possible if a 1999 game was ever made, the castle could be the same as the one in AoS but you go through a different route via rooms that weren't explored in AoS.
Also, I bet my ass that the crubled coffins on AoS' save rooms were used by Alucard on 1999.
Also, I bet my ass again that Galamoth was a catacombs' boss that came back to fight Julius or/and Alucard and exact revenge on about his defeat on SotN, but using the technique they used to banish Dracula, they did the same to his soul, trapping it in a chandelier (Which Soma breaks in 2023). The Legion room even has a portal that does look like it leads to another dimension (Nether World?).
Remember how Death's scythe is stuck on the giant clock in AoS? Bet it was Julius who did that in 1999 lol
but that cant be, b/c if there was an actual 1999 game, we all know the castle structure & map would differ vastly from the one in aos for gameplay purposes. unless u guys are arguing that the castle map should be exactly the same and u guys would be ok with that?But, there's not going to be a 1999 game and NEVER will be one. IGA's gone, classic canon's gone, the old world is dead.
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How about the concept of "sealing" anything inside of an eclipse? An eclipse isn't a physical entity. It's the result of sun or the moon being directly in front of one another. There is nothing to seal anything in. It's like saying he sealed the castle in 12 midnight. Midnight is not a physical thing, it's just a concept people use to keep track of time.
Let's say that typical JP "doesn't matter if it makes sense so long as it looks / sounds cool" logic applies here. Why on earth would Julius even need to seal the castle away? How was 1999 any different from the zillions of times the Belmonts and others have killed Dracula? Even if there was some huge disaster that required him to break the cycle of rebirth, why would the Vampire Killer be capable of sealing the castle away in the first place? It has the soul of a thousand year old dead woman in it. Maybe it holds a grudge against vampires (and Mathias, in particular), but that doesn't really equate to "moon / sun shadow sealing".
This is the main problem I have with JP design. They always come up with ideas without trying to rationalize them. It's lead to some amazing things, but there have been a ton of really inane ideas, as well.
This is the reason why, in 2035, when Soma and Mina get teleported to the Castle, possibly through some coincidence in power lines, or whatever, the Castle is in a constant state of disrepair. The Castle Corridor is Ruined, and other locations are even more broken than usual; the Castle was on its way to crumble and ruin when the events of 1999 took place.
Found an even bigger plothole: Death shouldn't exist. Why? Because: At the end of PoR, Dracula absorbed and destroyed Death. Therefore, Death shouldn't exist.
The sun or moon moving directly in front of one another is a physical thing, but an eclipse itself is a concept and not a physical thing. Also, magic has rules just like anything else, they're just different from standard natural rules.
There are people out there who can just kind of hand-wave stuff that doesn't add up, but I've always been a stickler for details when it comes to stories. More power to the people who don't let that sort of thing bug them, though.
I think the absorption of Death was just temporary and they separated again after Drac was defeated. Death can reappear anytime he wishes.I think it's similar to the fusion techniques in DBZ. They can merge to become one powerful enemy, but still are individuals.
I think it's a sort've similar take on multi-cultural mysticism. I don't see Dracula's Castle being sealed within the PHYSICAL eclipse more than the qualifications to open a specific portal can ONLY be met with the eclipse and that's where Dracula's Castle is sealed.
I think it's similar to the fusion techniques in DBZ. They can merge to become one powerful enemy, but still are individuals.
Regarding the eclipse thing, I think it's a part of mysticism. Some lore and mysticism tell of certain gates to "other worlds" that can only be open via certain means, like astological alignment or time of the year where our world passes through the certain spot in space where these portals exist. Some think even the coming of the night acts as the means to unveil these "holes"/"gates" and allow spirits to enter our world. I know some places in the Southwest(namely Arizona and New Mexico) where the Native Americans believed of certain spots where the dead/spirits could enter the world and are highly active at night(both attacking people and causing mischief). Celtic people believed in "thin places", areas of the world where the realm of the living overlaps with the realm of the spirits and those of the spirit realm can cross over(places that are "haunted" or cursed, as well as places of great magical potency). I mean, given the time of year we're in, Samhain and Dia de los Muertos all revolved around a superstitious belief that it was a certain time in the year where the dead could return to the world of the living(for a limited time only). Interestingly enough, bringing up Halloween(the movie series), one of John Carpenter's early reasons for Michael Myers going on a killing spree was that he felt Michael was ultra-sensitive to in influx of spirits during Samhain/Halloween, and it caused him to go "dark"(basically lose himself to his inhuman persona).
I think it's a sort've similar take on multi-cultural mysticism. I don't see Dracula's Castle being sealed within the PHYSICAL eclipse more than the qualifications to open a specific portal can ONLY be met with the eclipse and that's where Dracula's Castle is sealed.
Found an even bigger plothole: Death shouldn't exist. Why? Because: At the end of PoR, Dracula absorbed and destroyed Death. Therefore, Death shouldn't exist.
So...god's just sitting around, chillin'? Drinkin' a Bud? Some people might say that god works through others by giving people like the Belmonts the power they need to fight evil. This seems like a pretty weak explanation. Evil can have obvious physical manifestations, but good has to work through subtle machinations?
That definitely makes sense, but I'd say it's more likely because nobody wants to depict god in any way, shape, or form. Somehow you can talk about the devil and hell all you want, but god is off limits.
Everyone else is just stuck in the middle of their dick measuring contest.
...Somehow you can talk about the devil and hell all you want, but god is off limits...
...People will bitch more about a deus ex machina being involved than they will over a botched dichotomy. It's barely fair and makes even less sense, but that's one reason.
One thing that's always bugged me about any story that involves "Death", demons, hell, ghosts, etc. is the fact that it only ever really deals with the "bad" aspects of the afterlife. It's always about the bad things that happen when people die. Hardly anyone ever goes up into some form of "Heaven", and even if they do, you never see or hear of a literal "god's" involvement.
I can fully understand the reasons behind this sort of practice, but let's face it. If ghosts exist, this confirms the existence of an afterlife of some sort. If you can go to Hell, you can go to Heaven. If there's a Heaven, there's a god.
So...god's just sitting around, chillin'? Drinkin' a Bud? Some people might say that god works through others by giving people like the Belmonts the power they need to fight evil. This seems like a pretty weak explanation. Evil can have obvious physical manifestations, but good has to work through subtle machinations?
Not something that bothers me TOO much when it comes to Castlevania, but it's something that's always in the back of my mind with that sort of premise.
That definitely makes sense, but I'd say it's more likely because nobody wants to depict god in any way, shape, or form. Somehow you can talk about the devil and hell all you want, but god is off limits.
That's one of the things I always really appreciated about the Shin Megami Tensei series. God and the Devil are literal beings in that universe, and they both have positive and negative traits. Everyone else is just stuck in the middle of their dick measuring contest.
^Mina also tells Soma about that legend in AoS. Amaterasu, the sun goddess, hides from Susanoo in a cave. As a result, the world becomes dark, which subdues Susanoo's anger. Because of that, the power of an eclipse is said to seal away evil intentions, according to Mina. Hence, the Habuka family's magic has "the power to control even gods".
You visit a old Dracula's Castle on Bloodlines, so why nobody here seems to remember about this? :P
Without a owner, Castlevania remains the same, we can see it in CV2 too.
^Mina also tells Soma about that legend in AoS. Amaterasu, the sun goddess, hides from Susanoo in a cave. As a result, the world becomes dark, which subdues Susanoo's anger. Because of that, the power of an eclipse is said to seal away evil intentions, according to Mina. Hence, the Habuka family's magic has "the power to control even gods".
You see, we know that Dracula's Castle appears when Dracula is about to come back.
We also know that it can be summoned right before Dracula is back. This seems to be the case in Bloodlines. The castle seems to be in awfully good shape with no Dracula there, but we know that Elizabeth Bathory and Drolta are pursuing Dracula's ressurrection. It being there may have been Elizabeth's doing.
And in CVII, it's in total disrepair. There is nothing above ground level, only subterranean catacombs. When the castle collapses, I find it plausible for it to look just like it does in CV2.