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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: CV_Fan_X on March 26, 2008, 07:36:44 PM
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As you can tell by my first post, "Post your idea for the next CV game!" I am 100% certain that they should make 1 last game in the Sorrow series to finish it off. That quote by Arikado to Soma, "Or are you saying you want to be the Dark Lord?" left me hanging. Does anyone agree? I think they should make a 3rd sorrow game as long as it isn't to repetitive of the first 2. It should have a 10/10 story, since it would probably conclude the sorrow series. But I think they should make it interesting, not just another cult out to kill Soma. It should have some more punch. If they did a Julius mode (I'm sure they would) it should have its own storyline. And it would be interesting if you could play the whole game as evil Soma...
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Kind of off topic, but I've been wondering ever since I found this site.
Who is that guy next to Joachim on the banner at the top? Not Pumkin, but the person to the right. I'm wondering why Leon isn't up there too.
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That person IS Leon.
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maybe eventually, it would be a cool idea, but I don't think they should do it just yet
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Are you sure it's Leon? I've seen Leon's 2d sprite at the end of Richter mode in PoR and it look's nothing like that. It doesn't even have blond hair, it's gray. Plus, it's not wearing Leon's clothes
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It's Leon. It's a fan sprite, Jorge's I think. The PoR one is the only 'official' 2D sprite of Leon, and it's just that one frame.
Aria of Sorrow wrapped up its story nicely, and DoS was pushing it. I think a third Sorrow game would be overkill.
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Nope. I don't think the Sorrow games should have been made in the first place. The games themselves are cool but the story lines are ridiculously stupid.
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I wouldn't mind another future Castlevania, but I'd like a main character that isn't Soma. Or maybe a game further into the future, where Soma is a fifty year old badass like Julius and/or acts as a side character.
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The Sorrow games have been the best since SotN and I'd love to see another one. Soma is badass, and the white & blue color theme of the games is gorgeous. Not to mention, the soul system is way too rad.
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I love the Sorrow series, probably more than anyone..
But I don't know if it needs another game in it.
Story-wise it defiantly doesn't, but the thought of never playing as Soma again makes me sad.
The soul system was a tremendous idea and it would be sad to see it never get used again.
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After Symphony of The Night, aria of sorrow is my most favorite castlevania. Dawn of sorrow was a little let down. So i don't think a third one will be nice.
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I was thinking about a game in which Alucard sees Soma as such a theat that he has to be destroyed.
Basically, another cult would be after Soma and he will go after them. Alucard would track down Soma and after soma beats the cult, instead of the game ending there would be one final boss: Alucard. he would say that soma is too reckless and is putting the future of mankind in a dangerous situation. Thus he must be destroyed. Half way through the battle Alucard, who is in his disguised form of Arikado, would reveal his true self to soma and attack at full power. It is at this point in which there would be one of two endings. the winner of the fight would loss his humanity and become the next dark lord. Then there would be two Julius modes. in one, the final boss would be Soma and in the other Alucard would be the final boss. And of course the bosses in each Julius mode would differ depending on which one is the final boss.
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In Reply To #12
The power of fantasy!! Although your scenario sounds interesting, i doubt that something good like this will ever become true.
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thats a nifty idea, but I do think Soma knows that it is Alucard.
AoS was good, DoS -was- pushing it in only that it did not advance the plot....and as we all know the only way to advance the plot is for soma to become dracula...we cant have castlevania w/o drac!
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In Reply To #7
Its a nice break from the "wtf! its not a hundered years yet" games.
I personally liked it as well too. Also where some of my idea sort of originated concerning fan story I'm building up.
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If Dawn ever gets a sequel, its plot has already been outlined in Dawn's ending, just as Dawn's plot was hinted at in Aria's ending.
Alucard in Aria: "In the future someone may follow again in Dracula's dark footsteps. At that time, perhaps we'll meet again."
Alucard in Dawn: "If the world needs a dark lord, it will emerge. Even if it's not you, Soma..."
So, "Sorrow 3" would most likely involve someone other than Soma succeeding in becoming the Demon King.
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Wouldn't a third Sorrow game be the 1999 battle? It's what starts the "trilogy", introduces Julius, kills Dracula, and sets up everything that is to come in the next two games.
Personally, I like playing as Soma. He has the flexibility in weapons like Alucard and I think the Soul System is very fun. But another game with him would probably be clunky for the overarching cv story. If they did continue his character, I would like to see him branch out and become some sort of warrior who doesn't just fight evil cults bent on returning the Dark Lord. The Dark Lord can't be the only Big Bad in the CV world that's trying to kill all humans.
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In Reply To #7
Yeah, you have a point. But still, I do want to see a third one in which you play as ALUCARD and have to go kill Soma because he actually became the dark lord this time. And I want to see Dario in that game too, after all, he didn't die in DoS.
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In Reply To #18
That's what Dawn of Sorrow should have been. The AoS ending where Soma gives in to the dark side should have been canon, leaving Julius to slay him. Instead, we get another stupid storyline that doesn't even progress the series in anyway. There is really no reason for DoS to even exist.
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The Sorrow games have been the best since SotN and I'd love to see another one. Soma is badass, and the white & blue color theme of the games is gorgeous. Not to mention, the soul system is way too rad.
Soma? Bad ass? Oh please! ::)
http://castlevania.classicgaming.gamespy.com/Images/Scans/Aria/art-soma2.jpg
http://castlevania.classicgaming.gamespy.com/Images/Scans/Aria/aos_artbook_page6.jpg
http://castlevania.classicgaming.gamespy.com/Images/Scans/Aria/soma3.jpg
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Aria of Sorrow wrapped up its story nicely, and DoS was pushing it. I think a third Sorrow game would be overkill.
That sums up my answer pretty much, more so since the canon ending is the 'good' one. But even if the bad ending were canon, the game ended the storyline, which is good since I agree, the second story in the Sorrow series was pushing it.
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Soma? Bad ass? Oh please! ::)
Opinions are so funny.
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In Reply To #22
The Sorrow series are my favorite Roidvanias next to SOTN and COTM.
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Soma? Bad ass? Oh please! ::)
http://castlevania.classicgaming.gamespy.com/Images/Scans/DoS/dos-kojima1.jpg
:o
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In Reply To #24
Overall favorite Soma pic. :D
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I still think it would be cool to see the concept of PoR applied to a new Sorrow game (only carried out better), teaming Soma with Julius, Al, or perhaps even Death, since he always served the dark lord, and if Soma got his hands on one of the two stones featured in LoI, the idea could actually work. Infact, I think it would be cool if they mixed in a little MegaMan X 5 in there, and had a guage to show how much closer Soma is to becoming the Dark Lord, and relying on Death could raise it little by little. But, I'm sure no one else likes that idea.
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I still think it would be cool to see the concept of CV3 applied to a new Sorrow game (only carried out better), teaming Soma with Julius, Al, or perhaps even Death
Fixed.
Pork just took cv3's idea, mixed it with dos's j mode, Yoko following you in Soma mode intro and cod's innocent devils to create the partner system. :o
If there ever is a third sorrow game, I don't want Soma to be its protagonist yet again. Main antagonist would be more fun. You'd play the role of J's son or something seeing as the J man's too old, and investigate the recent changes in your town that's NOT IN JAPAN. All leads to Soma, who for some reason didn't age at all even though many years passed, but you being the stereotypical game protagonist ignore it.
You befriend him and he agrees to help you (cv3 partner system kicks in), but at one point it's revealed he eventually succumbed to the darkness and he's the one responsible. You end up fighting him as the final battle. :o
As for his reason, dunno, maybe Mina dumped him and he got so sad he wanted to cut himself, and then drac's chaotic powers rejoined his soul when he lost the reason to and his will to resist them or something. :P
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In Reply To #24
Yes, but that shows him as the dark lord, IMO. Unfortuantely, stupid Iga enjoys "happy" endings...
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In Reply To #24
Yes, but that shows him as the dark lord, IMO. Unfortuantely, stupid Iga enjoys "happy" endings...
Nevertheless, he is badass as regular Soma. Not only by virtue of his persona, but generally. The Renaissance and Baroque allowed for fashionable men to be considered such. Only since the death of romanticism has the general public had the arbitrary notion that masculinity somehow equates to drabness of attire and unimaginative hair stylings. Even so, insofar as "modern" notions of masculinity are concerned Soma conforms easily to them, being quite brusque and decisive.
*writes essay about castlevania characters*
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In Reply To #29
Not really, he was too nice as regular Soma. If I were Soma, I would killed Graham as soon as I found out he was a missionary. Stupid religious people...
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In Reply To #24
Yes, but that shows him as the dark lord, IMO.
"IMO," no, it doesn't. It's just a drawing of Soma.
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In Reply To #30
So ... you'd kill people cuz they are religious? >.>
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In Reply To #29
Not really, he was too nice as regular Soma. If I were Soma, I would killed Graham as soon as I found out he was a missionary. Stupid religious people...
That's a very intelligent reason that doesn't speak lengths of immaturity and ignorance.
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In Reply To #29
Not really, he was too nice as regular Soma. If I were Soma, I would killed Graham as soon as I found out he was a missionary. Stupid religious people...
At that time you'd be like level 1 or 2. No real chance against a guy with Drac's powers, he'd one hit kill you. :P
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At that time you'd be like level 1 or 2. No real chance against a guy with Drac's powers, he'd one hit kill you. :P
True. But he'd be so wrapped up about 'missionary' that he'd miss all the signs and attack anyway. Then we'd never have poor Soma.
Though I don't agree so much Soma was 'too nice'. Just that Dawn had way too much of a happy ending. I'd rather the alternate ending being the actual one.
Off Topic: Your sig. Is there one of Charlotte?
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Really the only way I'd want a third game in the Sorrow series is if Soma is the Bad guy. Also, I think it'd be cool to keep the Julius, Alucard, Yoko character switching DoS had too. Killing Soma with a different character could change the ending or something
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Off Topic: Your sig.
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In Reply To #32
Yes, and I know that, #33. I just don't like super religious people. They're always talking about "god" and all that illogical nonsense.
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Super atheist people aren't any better >.>
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In Reply To #29
Not really, he was too nice as regular Soma. If I were Soma, I would killed Graham as soon as I found out he was a missionary. Stupid religious people...
I'm with you. I don't like people who devoted their lives to religion. And missionaries are the most annoying.
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In Reply To #32
Yes, and I know that, #33. I just don't like super religious people. They're always talking about "god" and all that illogical nonsense.
You're the atheist equivalent of Pat Robertson.
Anyways, what is there left for Soma?
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In Reply To #41
Three simple words, people. - Gay. Rights. Advocate. Then maybe folks wouldn't clamor so desperately for him to become the villain in the story.
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In Reply To #41
Three simple words, people. - Gay. Rights. Advocate. Then maybe folks wouldn't clamor so desperately for him to become the villain in the story.
I dunno. We'd probably get a whole new breed of fan--girl--coming into the story and just *praying* that he takes Alucard as...prisoner. XD
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That's a very intelligent reason that doesn't speak lengths of immaturity and ignorance.
I agree, killing him at that point would have been unnecessary and boring, not to mention wrong since he hadn't done anything yet and was just wandering the castle like everyone else. The boss fight is satisfying and extremely fun.
In Reply To #32
Yes, and I know that, #33. I just don't like super religious people. They're always talking about "god" and all that illogical nonsense.
why? if they believe diff. than you why do you look down on them? let them believe what they want to and whatever makes them happy is my motto. There's no proof either way that god does or does not exist so there's no right or wrong stance.
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It's still every Dracula boss fight before, but his Angel form was something else.
They revealed his intentions too early. They should've played up the indecision between him and Yoko some more.
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There should only be one other Sorrow related game, and that should be the 1999 game with Julius
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In Reply To #46
Personally, I'd like to see that game com eaorund, but it shouldn't be part of the sorrow series.
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I'm with you.
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I agree that the third CV aria game should be 1999 battle I would imagine a mix between COTM and contra. Also those devoted to religion are as annoying to those who babble on about how atheisism is right.
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Agreed Elementalblazer. It's a friggin double edge sword: there are bad apples in both bunches (I've met the worst on both sides) but it doesn't mean either should be hated for those few, stupid people.
Though I will however, openly admit that super religious people scare me a *little* more than super atheist.
A little story about that:
I've had a run in with a horrible set of overprotective and religious parents that shunned one of my best friends because she had a baby out of wedlock.
They proceeded to shun me because I refused not to be this person's friend (Their daughter and I were good friends so they actually went out of their way to talk to me about this. I didn't even know my other friend was preggers until this conversation honestly so they'd already stepped OoB.) and also, wouldn't join their church/religion. (I'm already a set religion and just don't want to be said religion, though I won't go into detail to be polite on which religion they were a part of.)
So they tried to force their daughter not to hang out with us anymore because we were, and I quote "Sinners for the devil".
After a while, we had other people (from this church)calling us whores (I suppose I'm a whore by association XD ) and all sorts of crap cause I suppose they told them we were trying to 'corrupt' their daughter.
To make a longer story short, we ended up not hanging with girl until she moved out (or rather ran away) and there was almost lawsuits for deformation of character when this crap cost me getting a job.
Though I'm more anti this certain church than all religious people as a whole now.
And agreed, the only game in the 'Sorrow' series now should be the 1999 game. Julius needs his spotlight damn it! XD
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In Reply To #50
Yes, incidents like that are what make me dislike religious people.
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I'm all for another Sorrow title, though the prequel should probaly come first.
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Aria of sorrow sequel #32, Lol of Sorrow.
An evil cult again assaults Soma who is now 51, and tries to turn him into a dark lord like they do every year, and he has to stop them! >:(
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Aria of Sorrow had the best story in all of Castlevania IMO; Dawn of Sorrow is clearly an afterthought by comparison. With that said, another Soma game would degrade Aria even further.
I too am awaiting news on Julius' adventure, but I wouldn't throw the tactical soul system to the fire just yet. IGA should give us at least one game controlling Mathias Dracula on his mad quest to become the most powerful vampire in the world. There's what? a few hundred years between Lament and Dracula's Curse?
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I'm wondering exactly who would make an appearance in the Sorrow prequel. We know that Julius and Alucard will be in it, but after playing through CoD, Saint Germain mentions going forward in time to witness the final battle between Dracula and humans. So I'm guessing he'll make an appearance too
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If the usa timeline can be trusted, it'd be Alucard, J, Yoko's ancestor and a Hakuba priest. And Germain since he set himself up in cod for that.
You don't really need anyone more except some villains, that's enough for a decent protagonist casting.
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In Reply To #56
Yeah, that's making this game sound good. I hope will be, though.
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Aria finished on a perfect note if you get the best ending, Dawn was completely unneeded, and a 3rd game would give me the impression that Konami is completely desperate, and jjust might alienate me enough that I would stop playing the series altogether.
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In Reply To #16
I do like the sorrow series, but I would like a next game with a Belmont instead.
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How about IGA makes a friggin' game set in the 14th century on how Matthias became Vlad the Impaler or something, and how the Church dealed with him, making him the Lord of Darkness and thus, the Curse of the Belmonts finally begins.
:o
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How about IGA makes a friggin' game set in the 14th century on how Matthias became Vlad the Impaler or something, and how the Church dealed with him, making him the Lord of Darkness and thus, the Curse of the Belmonts finally begins.
:o
Or pretty much, Castlevania 3: The Prologue.
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I think it was pretty much established what happened prior to CVIII. Mathias changed his name once he settled down in Wallachia and practiced sorcery to spread darkness throughout Europe. The Eastern Orthodox Church sent Sypha and knights to combat his influence, and Sypha was petrified until Trevor came along and some of the Church troops were zombified (going by the Bloody Zombies' description in SotN.)
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In Reply To #62
Established in writing, but a game or 2 wouldn't hurt. :D
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Well...I'd like to know more what happened after Lament moreso than what happened right before CVIII. D:
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yeah, cause it's more less known what happens before cv3 (drac lives more less peacefully with lisa, then village people kill her, he goes RAAAAAGEEEE and starts a war against humanity, church sends troops+sypha etc) but it's still not known what was going on during the 300 year period after loi.
that said I really hope they will not touch the 1900s anymore. it already has 3 games in it (with the 3rd one, the 1999 conflict estabilished though not made yet, but most likely it will be in the future) and we don't need more than that. i mean, one of iga's reasons for retconning cv64/lod was that the 1800s were too crowded, with only 4 games
though maybe he would retcon pork if he were to make another game in 1900s lol ;D
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Aria of Sorrow had the best story in all of Castlevania IMO...
You know, it's statements like these that remind you of just how little Konami has paid heed to Castlevania's storyline or continuity for that matter. *s i g h* Friggin' heck.
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In Reply To #66
Yeah. Has he even played SotN? Or CVIII?