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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => Fan Stuff => Topic started by: Ericard on March 03, 2015, 02:32:20 PM
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Removed for use of a sprite without original creator's permission
-Gunlord
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mmmm.meh..It seems stable enough though.
Seems more akin to Castlevania Fighter than an actual complete title.
People are still making games with BOR since Lavalit shut down?! (Doesn't seem the same.)
Maybe I will give it a shot...
I think it could have had a bigger potential there are some really good things in parts but, there looks to be incomplete animations in certain bosses because no one took the extra care to make them...(Especially the final boss.)
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The greatest question I have to make here is: What in the freaking hell is my Dracula final boss sprite doing on this game without my permission?
I mean, it's cool to know people like it to the point of wanting to use it, but a simple PM asking me about it would've been nice.
I'm not even credited on this.
>:(
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The greatest question I have to make here is: What in the freaking hell is my Dracula final boss sprite doing on this game without my permission?
When I saw it I was thinking "oh neat they asked TPT to use his Dracula form." Scroll down, NOPE.
Really shitty of them to do that. People have no shame anymore. They must think it's OK to steal stuff for whatever reason.
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Yeah...I saw it and wondered too. Watched the credits just to see and didn't see any name I regonized. I was gonna ask, but you've already posted and apparently you didn't give permission. Anything you can do about it?
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It's hard to really do something about it, especially legally.
You can always call the lynch mob and attack though. Hunt them down wherever they go, and make sure they understand what they did is not acceptable.
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Uzo is pretty much spot-on. There is not much I can do BUT most people here know where the sprite came from, and most people where I uploaded the artwork also know where the sprite came from. So there's that. Even without the credits, these people will know who did the sprite.
I'll see what I can do though.
Ericard, not a nice move on your part. Worst case scenario I would've said I have no time to animate the sprite but you could use it anyway as long as credit was given. Now I want the sprite removed.
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Sorry guys, I found the sprite in the google image, but it didn't wrote the name in. So, that's why I can't even know who the author was...
But anyway, I'll credit it from the maker of Dracula's 3rd form sprite, however... the program is under my own ideas...
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Sorry guys, I found the sprite in the google image, but it didn't wrote the name in. So, that's why I can't even know who the author was...
But anyway, I'll credit it from the maker of Dracula's 3rd form sprite, however... the program is under my own ideas...
So you just found a gorgeus Dracula sprite on Google and never bothered to find if it belongs to someone or not? That is interesting ...
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So you just found a gorgeus Dracula sprite on Google and never bothered to find if it belongs to someone or not? That is interesting ...
Yes, but I still didn't know who the author was...
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Not a good enough excuse.
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Yes, but I still didn't know who the author was...
And the Google page where you found the sprite did not lead you to its creator? That is really hard to believe.
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As a Law student specializing in Intellectual Property, I'm quite amused at this situation.
Also, nobody brought up that this 1999 game stars Simon, and not Julius?
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And the Google page where you found the sprite did not lead you to its creator? That is really hard to believe.
Specially considering that the sprite he's using is the effectless one, so it's not the one present on my Deviant Art, but the one at Pixel Joint or the one found here, both of which are 'pure', and both of which have a clear creator attached right behind them >:(
Yes, but I still didn't know who the author was...
Since you still are apparently clueless, the creator's preferred handle is "Emppixel". I *REALLY* wanted this sprite removed from the game, but since you probably won't do it, and I can't afford to chase you everywhere (but do not think this will slide so easily, as I have tracked where you dwell and your other usernames), I will kindly ask you to give credit where credit is due.
I repeat: THIS IS NOT NICE. People put effort on these things, and the ONLY job you had was to click on the link and see who made it, and you couldn't get this simple thing done. Try not to repeat it. Here at the Dungeon, your name and your game are already smeared because you couldn't spare two extra clicks and a PM.
Every day I understand more why Serio got so territorial with his sprites: All you have to do is ask, but this is simple rule is trampled, and later justified with cardboard-thick excuses. As VladCT put it majestically: These are not enough of good excuses. Not nearly enough.
About your game: It has Simon Belmont in it, and you call it DCW. It bears preciselly zero resemblance with anything that could evoke what DCW would be like (main one being the presence of Julius Belmont). Plus the title for the game itself (as per what the video shows) says nothing like the title that you flaunt here from time to time.
I don't get why the overly long names that you associate with it, and the link to your game is incredibly obfuscated for whatever draconian reason (or I am incredibly dumb, probably this). Plus, it seems to be nowhere as ready as you make it to be.
The gameplay itself seems quite solid, if a tad wonky. But that's mostly it, and the game doesn't show too much novelty or imagination beyond "buncha bosses strung together". In my humble opinion you could take it back to the kitchen and let it cook more, because it tastes raw. A beta of the true idea.
As a Law student specializing in Intellectual Property, I'm quite amused at this situation.
Care to elaborate a bit :) ?
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The greatest question I have to make here is: What in the freaking hell is my Dracula final boss sprite doing on this game without my permission?
I mean, it's cool to know people like it to the point of wanting to use it, but a simple PM asking me about it would've been nice.
I'm not even credited on this.
>:(
Yep. I noticed that too.
But you didn't make it open source during the end of that contest right? (I know alot of us was doing that...)
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If the sprite doesn't have the name of the author, I guess we just forget about it...
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Specially considering that the sprite he's using is the effectless one, so it's not the one present on my Deviant Art, but the one at Pixel Joint or the one found here, both of which are 'pure', and both of which have a clear creator attached right behind them >:(
Since you still are apparently clueless, the creator's preferred handle is "Emppixel". I *REALLY* wanted this sprite removed from the game, but since you probably won't do it, and I can't afford to chase you everywhere (but do not think this will slide so easily, as I have tracked where you dwell and your other usernames), I will kindly ask you to give credit where credit is due.
I repeat: THIS IS NOT NICE. People put effort on these things, and the ONLY job you had was to click on the link and see who made it, and you couldn't get this simple thing done. Try not to repeat it. Here at the Dungeon, your name and your game are already smeared because you couldn't spare two extra clicks and a PM.
Every day I understand more why Serio got so territorial with his sprites: All you have to do is ask, but this is simple rule is trampled, and later justified with cardboard-thick excuses. As VladCT put it majestically: These are not enough of good excuses. Not nearly enough.
About your game: It has Simon Belmont in it, and you call it DCW. It bears preciselly zero resemblance with anything that could evoke what DCW would be like (main one being the presence of Julius Belmont). Plus the title for the game itself (as per what the video shows) says nothing like the title that you flaunt here from time to time.
I don't get why the overly long names that you associate with it, and the link to your game is incredibly obfuscated for whatever draconian reason (or I am incredibly dumb, probably this). Plus, it seems to be nowhere as ready as you make it to be.
The gameplay itself seems quite solid, if a tad wonky. But that's mostly it, and the game doesn't show too much novelty or imagination beyond "buncha bosses strung together". In my humble opinion you could take it back to the kitchen and let it cook more, because it tastes raw. A beta of the true idea.
Care to elaborate a bit :) ?
The sprite is yours right? Next time if you create any sprite, just mark your name somewhere else. Also, this game is the pure story about Julius in 1999, the Simon Belmont is just a secret mode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41EIhQs-W4. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41EIhQs-W4.)
Now your sprite already credited... thx.
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Care to elaborate a bit :) ?
It amuses me to see how some people can not even care about the work of other people, and use it in their own projects without the smallest credit, or even asking the original author. Even if the name isn't attached, a quick Google search woud have brought your name up.
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It amuses me to see how some people can not even care about the work of other people, and use it in their own projects without the smallest credit, or even asking the original author. Even if the name isn't attached, a quick Google search woud have brought your name up.
THIS.
Still seems like he doesn't care...and didn't The Plot Twist say he wanted his sprite REMOVED.
Maybe some mods should remove these links and lock the thread until the issues are ironed out?
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THIS.
Still seems like he doesn't care...and didn't The Plot Twist say he wanted his sprite REMOVED.
Maybe some mods should remove these links and lock the thread until the issues are ironed out?
He did Great in his sprite, just no one will ever want to use it because only one page of his sprite isn't good enough to use. Can't even make the idle move naturally at all.. it's just for a good looking sprite..
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He did Great in his sprite, just no one will ever want to use it because only one page of his sprite isn't good enough to use. Can't even make the idle move naturally at all.. it's just for a good looking sprite..
No one will ever want to use it EXCEPT you, apparently. Your excuses keep getting thinner and thinner.
If the sprite doesn't have the name of the author, I guess we just forget about it...
No, you freaking do not use it, because the author can surprise-attack you (like in this case) and cause you problems and demand his shit removed from the game. In the worst case scenario, he can demand a CEASE AND DESIST for his coptrighted work is being used without his permission, and fuck your shit up real nice.
The sprite is yours right? Next time if you create any sprite, just mark your name somewhere else. Also, this game is the pure story about Julius in 1999, the Simon Belmont is just a secret mode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41EIhQs-W4. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41EIhQs-W4.)
Now your sprite already credited... thx.
The nerve.
Why would I want to keep watermarking my sprites when my name is clearly attached where the sprite is posted? Even if my name is there, there is something else:
But you didn't make it open source during the end of that contest right? (I know alot of us was doing that...)
Precisely. And there's a reason for that. I never said people could use it. So even if my name is there, you're still not allowed to use it.
Next time, FUCKING CLICK THE LINK TO SEE THE AUTHOR'S NAME INSTEAD OF DEMANDING HIM THAT HE MAKE HIS SPRITE EASIER FOR YOU TO STEAL WITHOUT HAVING TO CLICK TOO MUCH.
PLUS, I still don't see my handle credited anywhere.
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No one will ever want to use it EXCEPT you, apparently. Your excuses keep getting thinner and thinner.
No, you freaking do not use it, because the author can surprise-attack you (like in this case) and cause you problems and demand his shit removed from the game. In the worst case scenario, he can demand a CEASE AND DESIST for his coptrighted work is being used without his permission, and fuck your shit up real nice.
The nerve.
Why would I want to keep watermarking my sprites when my name is clearly attached where the sprite is posted? Even if my name is there, there is something else:
Precisely. And there's a reason for that. I never said people could use it. So even if my name is there, you're still not allowed to use it.
Next time, FUCKING CLICK THE LINK TO SEE THE AUTHOR'S NAME INSTEAD OF DEMANDING HIM THAT HE MAKE HIS SPRITE EASIER FOR YOU TO STEAL WITHOUT HAVING TO CLICK TOO MUCH.
PLUS, I still don't see my handle credited anywhere.
I pretty much agree with Twist on this.
And I am sorry, if you use his or any other sprite from any other person from our contests (Which you clearly knew about because there is crazy traffic now on our sprite contests now) without permission and even worse, still continually use it just to put in a half-baked game or otherwise knowingly knowing the creator has a problem with it, that's a pretty douche thing to do.
Shouldn't be such an issue to remove his sprite from your game and use another resource or hell, even ask nicely. That's a respect thing.
And heaven's no, not too many author's are going to spend extra time watermarking their work from thieves. Because that's what it is. Yes, some creator's do it, but even in a professional environment albeit even a small one (like the game industry) your reputation is everything.
Something to think about man, is it worth people shunning away from your projects? What if you need help from someone in the future when you need something done for your game?
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Perhaps it would be best to replace the sprite, there could be big issues due to this.
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Nevermind about it. It's just a picture. Just ONE piece of sprite. His name is credited, but nothing can be replace anymore.
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No one will ever want to use it EXCEPT you, apparently. Your excuses keep getting thinner and thinner.
No, you freaking do not use it, because the author can surprise-attack you (like in this case) and cause you problems and demand his shit removed from the game. In the worst case scenario, he can demand a CEASE AND DESIST for his coptrighted work is being used without his permission, and fuck your shit up real nice.
The nerve.
Why would I want to keep watermarking my sprites when my name is clearly attached where the sprite is posted? Even if my name is there, there is something else:
Precisely. And there's a reason for that. I never said people could use it. So even if my name is there, you're still not allowed to use it.
Next time, FUCKING CLICK THE LINK TO SEE THE AUTHOR'S NAME INSTEAD OF DEMANDING HIM THAT HE MAKE HIS SPRITE EASIER FOR YOU TO STEAL WITHOUT HAVING TO CLICK TOO MUCH.
PLUS, I still don't see my handle credited anywhere.
Dude, take it easy! I said that your name is credited!
http://castlevaniafanon.wikia.com/wiki/Castlevania_LCD_Chronicles%281-bit_handheld%29 (http://castlevaniafanon.wikia.com/wiki/Castlevania_LCD_Chronicles%281-bit_handheld%29)
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Why can a single sprite not be replaced? Are you not the author of the game? It is not difficult.
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Nevermind about it. It's just a picture. Just ONE piece of sprite. His name is credited, but nothing can be replace anymore.
Ericard, I think you're not grasping the issue here. You're acting all "for me it was Tuesday" on me, and you won't like what is brewing for you.
"It's just a picture" no, it's MY sprite, in which I spent FIVE HOURS to create. I don't have five hours to create sprites for contests, most of the time.
"Just ONE piece of sprite" but you seem to be INCREDIBLY bothered that I demanded that you remove it. "It's just a sprite, but I don't want to remove it".
"Nothing can be replaced anymore" I couldn't give HALF A FLYING TURD about what can or cannot be done. My sprite is there, and I didn't allow for it.
You credited me in the WRONG place with the WRONG handle (I was VERY clear about what handle you should use). One more proof that you can't be bothered to click once or twice to know your shit.
piscesdreams already spelled it out quite nicely: It can be done. But thing is: You can't be bothered. If you can't be bothered, I won't be bothered shut my mouth about your game's reputation and yours all over the place for months to come, using this thread to demonstrate how shitty is your behavior towards content that you didn't make when the creator of said content shows up.
It's just game, isn't it?
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But you didn't make it open source during the end of that contest right? (I know alot of us was doing that...)
Weren't we all saying, "Use it, but credit me," or am I misunderstanding how stuff works? I guess those quotes would only be seen if someone thinking to use them spent some time reading that thread or searching for the owner of a particular sprite? (Though it does just seem like common sense [however uncommon it actually is] and proper etiquette to do such a search.)
Maybe from here on out we could/should some sort of "tag"...well I guess that wouldn't work either. I was gonna say have a line saying, "Do not use" or "Use with permission" or whatever by the sprites (not a watermark...just with the sprite when we post) but it would have the same problem...someone would have to search to find them. Google could (I guess) bring up the image without said line to inform them.
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Hmm...yeah, I think I understand why people might get worked up, though in the future please don't shout with extra large text--just PM me or another mod if an issue like this comes up and we'll try to deal with it quickly.
However, yes, Plottwist has my backing here, and I'm sure the rest of the mod team is on his side too. Ericard, even if you give credit where it's due (which is good), you still shouldn't use a sprite or any other resource without the creator's permission (which is bad). If plottwist doesn't want his sprites used, then don't use them--I don't think it should be hard for you to change. I'm not going to lock this thread *yet,* but I *will* talk to Jorge and my fellow mods about this, and I *will* ask you to remove the sprites Plottwist wants you to remove and make sure you have permission to use any other resources that may have come from other people in your work.
Now, I'm trying to be cool about this, so I very much hope you'll comply with these reasonable requests, Ericard. However, the administration feels very strongly about respecting other people's work and not being a jerk about using other people's stuff without their approval. My mod colleagues and I feel the same way. Let's try to resolve this situation peacefully and amicably, but we're willing to put our collective feet down if we have to.
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Weren't we all saying, "Use it, but credit me," or am I misunderstanding how stuff works? I guess those quotes would only be seen if someone thinking to use them spent some time reading that thread or searching for the owner of a particular sprite? (Though it does just seem like common sense [however uncommon it actually is] and proper etiquette to do such a search.)
Maybe from here on out we could/should some sort of "tag"...well I guess that wouldn't work either. I was gonna say have a line saying, "Do not use" or "Use with permission" or whatever by the sprites (not a watermark...just with the sprite when we post) but it would have the same problem...someone would have to search to find them. Google could (I guess) bring up the image without said line to inform them.
That's what I was thinking too Android.
That's a damn good idea about tagging though.
From here on if you leave a note on your contest entry if a particular sprite is open-source I will at least add it to the Sprite Bestiary.
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Again, sorry theplottwist. Since the sprite is being used, it could not be change anymore. And to dear admin, this is my first time facing the copyright of sprite issue, and I hope you can understand that this sprite is not used to be harm, but just for making the game. If all sprite is illegal to be used, there will be no castlevania fan made game to be done until now. Again, I observe that your sprite(plottwist) is only permanent for this game. I've seen alot of mod was done by other author, but they disgracefully didn't credit the game to the author of the sprite maker characters. One more, dear administrator, if you willing to sentence my account here, you may pleased.
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That seems like a good idea, darkman-thank you.
Ericard, look, I'm sorry, but if plot twist doesn't want his sprite to be used, *it will not be used.* I'm going to have to remove the links to your game and lock the thread. Anyone here, please PM me if you have any more questions.