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Title: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on June 16, 2015, 12:06:56 AM
OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD
NO WAY NO WAY NO WAY NO WAY
SORRY THERE IS NOT YT VIDEO UP RIGHT NOW THERE WILL PROBABLY BE ONE LATER BUT HOLY SHIT AM I EXCITED RIGHT NOW
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: Maedhros on June 16, 2015, 12:13:16 AM
I'm finding this E3 very underwhelming (since everything were leaked before).
This one have my attention, however!
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Post by: VladCT on June 16, 2015, 12:28:41 AM
I just hope Cloud maintains his original personality of not-actually-that-emo. Also, they said "play it first on Playstation 4," so it's gonna be a timed exclusive?
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Post by: KaZudra on June 16, 2015, 12:41:40 AM
I just hope Cloud maintains his original personality of not-actually-that-emo. Also, they said "play it first on Playstation 4," so it's gonna be a timed exclusive?
Yes, Meaning the inevitable PC and Xbox One releases are inbound by a year
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Post by: Maedhros on June 16, 2015, 12:49:06 AM
With Nomura directing? You can be sure Cloud will be an "emo".
Also, belts.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: piscesdreams on June 16, 2015, 12:54:38 AM
I reserve judgement for when we see gameplay. I hope they do truly remake it, but I am afraid they may alter the gameplay heavily.
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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on June 16, 2015, 12:54:59 AM
Yaaay the game I hate the most has a remake. whoopdeedoo... Meanwhile the game I like the most (VI) is for iPad with crappy RPGM2K-style graphics.
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Post by: Maedhros on June 16, 2015, 01:01:55 AM
I reserve judgement for when we see gameplay. I hope they do truly remake it, but I am afraid they may alter the gameplay heavily.
I'm more concerned about the story than I am about the gameplay. On its own, the original FF7 plot was actually not that bad. The ComplicationCompilation however, was an almost complete brain-fart in severe need of retooling/rewriting/what-have-you. So what I'm worried about is if they try to make the story more "in-line" with the ComplicationCompilation by introducing the more brain-farty elements.
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Post by: Claimh Solais on June 16, 2015, 01:06:36 AM
I'm more concerned about the story than I am about the gameplay. On its own, the original FF7 plot was actually not that bad. The ComplicationCompilation however, was an almost complete brain-fart in severe need of retooling/rewriting/what-have-you. So what I'm worried about is if they try to make the story more "in-line" with the ComplicationCompilation by introducing the more brain-farty elements.
Please please please PLEASE NO. Advent Children? Fine. I can do that. But I can't handle Genesis and Dirge of Cerberus.
I hate Genesis. With a passion. He's by far one of the worst characters in the whole Final Fantasy franchise. And Dirge of Cerberus was just kinda dumb.
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Post by: KaZudra on June 16, 2015, 01:08:25 AM
Well if worst comes to worst, the original FF7 is widely accessible. Does this mean we are finally getting FF8 and FF9 remakes? the possibility is now here. a FF8 remake with a retooled story and enhanced Magic stock system would be great.
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Post by: VladCT on June 16, 2015, 01:14:33 AM
I hate Genesis. With a passion. He's by far one of the worst characters in the whole Final Fantasy franchise. And Dirge of Cerberus was just kinda dumb.
Genesis is pretty much an example of everything wrong with the ComplicationCompilation. Personally, I think "kinda dumb" is a but too much of an understatement for DoC.
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Post by: Maedhros on June 16, 2015, 01:20:03 AM
Well if worst comes to worst, the original FF7 is widely accessible. Does this mean we are finally getting FF8 and FF9 remakes? the possibility is now here. a FF8 remake with a retooled story and enhanced Magic stock system would be great.
FFVIII is my favorite in the series. Maybe one day they'll remake it, I hope!
Whatever.
For this remake, they should just remake the graphics... seriously, just remake the models, UI, enviroments, cgs/cutscenes...
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Post by: Laina on June 16, 2015, 01:24:16 AM
Why isn't the YouTube link from Darkmanx working? Oh well, here's the Kotaku article with the reveal trailer.
Genesis is pretty much an example of everything wrong with the ComplicationCompilation. Personally, I think "kinda dumb" is a but too much of an understatement for DoC.
Yeah, I think it's more along the lines of abysmal than anything, really.
On top of that, as much as I liked Crisis Core, I really don't like a lot of the things done with it. Namely the inclusion of Genesis and Angeal. Like, is there a reason not a single citizen of Midgar remembers them once FF7 happens, but everyone remembers who Sephiroth is?
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Post by: GuyStarwind on June 16, 2015, 03:44:44 AM
I've never even finished the original.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on June 16, 2015, 03:53:33 AM
That's because FF VI is nowhere near as popular or as successful as FFVII. FFVI can't even touch this game in term of hype.
But it's cool to hate FFVII these days (and love FFVI) I guess...
It'll remain one of the best in the series for me, though. Hopefully this remakes delivers. I'm afraid they'll change the gameplay systems...
I'm a FFVII hate-hipster. I've hated this game since loooooong before it was cool to hate it. I've hated it since it came out on the PSX.
And I own it, because occasionally I think "Maybe I'm wrong... maybe now I've matured enough to like it, like with stinky cheeses or beer?". Then I play and and I'm like "Yup... still hate it".
And my opinion of this has existed before you even joined this forum, so yeah "I guess" it's cool to hate it now, but my hatred of this game is damn near Ancient level.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: Mystic Myotis on June 16, 2015, 09:45:13 AM
No gameplay?
No gameplay.
I don't trust SE to do this right. Refuse to buy into hype until bull DLC/DRM is confirmed to NOT be connected to this and we see gameplay footage.
I'm a FFVII hate-hipster. I've hated this game since loooooong before it was cool to hate it. I've hated it since it came out on the PSX.
And I own it, because occasionally I think "Maybe I'm wrong... maybe now I've matured enough to like it, like with stinky cheeses or beer?". Then I play and and I'm like "Yup... still hate it".
And my opinion of this has existed before you even joined this forum, so yeah "I guess" it's cool to hate it now, but my hatred of this game is damn near Ancient level.
Pretty much how I feel about FFVIII, so *shrugs*
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Post by: piscesdreams on June 16, 2015, 11:13:15 AM
I'm a FFVII hate-hipster. I've hated this game since loooooong before it was cool to hate it. I've hated it since it came out on the PSX.
And I own it, because occasionally I think "Maybe I'm wrong... maybe now I've matured enough to like it, like with stinky cheeses or beer?". Then I play and and I'm like "Yup... still hate it".
And my opinion of this has existed before you even joined this forum, so yeah "I guess" it's cool to hate it now, but my hatred of this game is damn near Ancient level.
Fair enough. I DO think the game is definitely overrated. It was the first FF I played, but I won't defend it, as I think FFIII/VI is a better game. I can definitely see why people hate it though. My first guess would be how it was a drastic change in its overall aesthetic, kind of like CV did with LoS.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: theplottwist on June 16, 2015, 12:46:31 PM
FFVII is to Final Fantasy what SotN is to Castlevania...
...Except that SotN has aged much better in comparison. But still.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: Maedhros on June 16, 2015, 12:58:51 PM
There's nothing overrated about FFVII. It was the first 3D game and the game that popularized RPGs in the west. If it wasn't for it, I doubt PS1 would have received as many rpgs it had.
It's the real deal. Now, if people don't like the characters/story/systems from the game, then it doesn't matter, since it's just an opinion. I'm just talking about things that I can measure, like sales/popularity.
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Post by: Jop on June 16, 2015, 02:05:57 PM
I never play this game and i dont want to play, i dont think its bad but ne. 2 friends like this game and when they talk about this game i say thats why its the best game because they watch this video:
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on June 16, 2015, 03:11:08 PM
I think that stream of bad games they put out was to test what to/what not to do for this remake here.
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Post by: X on June 16, 2015, 03:57:48 PM
I've never ever finished FFVII. The backgrounds were nice as well as the music and such, but the characters were horrible to look at. Very blocky and awkward. At least maybe now, when this remake is released I can give it another chance to see if it's in my personal tastes. But personally squarenix should hold off on remaking their later games and concentrate on giving FF's III, V and VI The PSP FF I&II Dawn of souls treatment. Then they can worry about there later games in the series.
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Post by: Laina on June 16, 2015, 06:04:53 PM
I don't trust SE to do this right. Refuse to buy into hype until bull DLC/DRM is confirmed to NOT be connected to this and we see gameplay footage.
Pretty much how I feel about FFVIII, so *shrugs*
I actually had the opposite experience with FF8. I seemed to be the only person I knew of at the time that genuinely enjoyed it as opposed to feeling outright betrayed by Square (that would start to come with FF9 & go full circle with FF13 for me) or just "meh" about it. And this is including folk I ran into on the interwebs. But yes, as far as not buying into the hype at this point, I agree. I'm taking this whole thing with a grain of salt & keeping my optimism quite cautious. Fool me once/the last 5 times, Square......
There's nothing overrated about FFVII. It was the first 3D game and the game that popularized RPGs in the west. If it wasn't for it, I doubt PS1 would have received as many rpgs it had.
It's the real deal. Now, if people don't like the characters/story/systems from the game, then it doesn't matter, since it's just an opinion. I'm just talking about things that I can measure, like sales/popularity.
I can mostly agree with that, at least with it being a catalyst for the US getting the amount of RPG's it did at the time. I haven't done any research to back this theory up, but I always assumed FF7's popularity was responsible in a big part for the release of Xenogears, the godparent to my non-existent children, over here. I remember reading there was a lot of controversy surrounding Xenogears' existential/religious themes because America was probably still too poo-babby to handle it (God, I love TBFP). I think FF7's more mature content helped with proving that "hey, maybe the U.S. IS old enough to stay home alone for the weekend & handle this thinky type stuff". Again, I have no way of proving that (or have at least been too lazy to unearth proof), just something I always liked to consider.
I never play this game and i dont want to play, i dont think its bad but ne. 2 friends like this game and when they talk about this game i say thats why its the best game because they watch this video:
In light of Jorge's recent statements, is it cool/hip/some banal horseshit for Egoraptor to be grating against one's nerves? If so, I've wanted to punch him in mouth on several occasions for quite a while now. I don't hate him or anything & I watch Game Grumps from time to time, he just rubs me wrong more often than not.*shrugs* I'm cool with Danny though, for the most part.
I think that stream of bad games they put out was to test what to/what not to do for this remake here.
I dunno...I feel like that may be giving Square too much credit. Then again, I am a bitter husk of a human being who's had her faith shattered numerous times over the years by Square (I equated this to being in a bad relationship with Square that I didn't know how to break out of on a thread here looooooong ago), so it's probably for the best if my words are regarded with the same level of care one would reserve for a severe schizophrenic covered in dead leaves and their own sick. The flying banans have taken residence in my shoes. Be kind, rewind Captain Dershowitz. FWAGAGABAH!
I've never ever finished FFVII. The backgrounds were nice as well as the music and such, but the characters were horrible to look at. Very blocky and awkward. At least maybe now, when this remake is released I can give it another chance to see if it's in my personal tastes. But personally squarenix should hold off on remaking their later games and concentrate on giving FF's III, V and VI The PSP FF I&II Dawn of souls treatment. Then they can worry about there later games in the series.
It was actually the very first RPG I ever sat down & beat. lol RPG's & fighters have been the cat's pajamas for me from day one, so I'd always binge-play until the final dunegon in every RPG I got my hands on. I'd then grow genuinely depressed that my adventures were soon to end, withdraw & just let it collect dust on my shelf. I resolved to not do that to FF7 though because it had been so engrossing for me, even more so than usual. I think it had to do with the age I was when I picked it up - 12, 3 months away from being 13, so I was just at that age where I was eating up anything that came across as "adult" & sophisticated to me. I was also a budding anarchist/eco warrior as a tween & loved the thought of starting out as a little guy sticking it to the man, then a little group still sticking it to the man while saving not just a large city, but the entire planet that had been crying out in pain due to man's mishandling. Anyway, going back a bit, I think the chibi-blockyness of the characters, while a little odd to me at first, grew on me becuase...shit, I was a 12 year old girl. Sure, I wanted to be more mature & sophisticated & was genuinely moving towards an appreciation for those things on my own independent of what I thought was appropriate of a growing girl in society (the "I'm not a baby anymore, JEESH!" mentality that we all probably felt pressured to put forward to prove ourselves and please those around us), but I STILL liked cute, silly things. Despite the more mature themes, this "so deformed, it's actually sorta cute" blockyness resonated with me & actually helped me accept the deeper, depressing stuff without getting too bogged down by it when it came up. I feel this left me able to keep my wits, allowing me to properly explore it & think it through, but still feel enough of it so as to not lose the impact they had intended. The cuteness of the sprites in FF6 helped with this stuff too, as I LOVED that game (though only gave it a shot after playing FF7) & so would love to see it get the proper remake treatment as well.
Anyway, I'm glad you're going to give it another shot, X. But I wonder how this experience will differ from the one you may have gotten if you had been able to get into the original FF7 at the time it debuted. That's not a chiding in the least for your distaste for the original graphics, I can get how that made it hard for you to concentrate on the story. It's just a genuine curiosity as to how your experience may differe from mine since I enjoyed the original & you didn't - I wonder how our feelings for the new one will compare & possibly contrast. I can't wait to discuss this with everyone when it manages to debut, though I must admit, I can't help but be on guard with Square & their promises as of late...I keep thinking this is all going to fall through somehow & all we'll ever have is the trailer video, which will effectively become a giant middle finger to us from Square...
I dunno, I'm rambling at this point. Everyone, enjoy the hell outta this when it debuts, whether that means shitting all over it for the most minute of infractions in your eyes to blindly worshipping every frame of it. Just have fun kids!
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Post by: Inccubus on June 17, 2015, 03:37:31 AM
I reserve judgement for when we see gameplay. I hope they do truly remake it, but I am afraid they may alter the gameplay heavily.
This is exactly how I feel about it. I'm afraid what we're going to actually get is Crisis Core / Type-0 with a new skin. And besides that, they should have done this ages ago. All in all I found all of this years E3 to be underwhelming even without the massive leaks.
I don't trust SE to do this right. Refuse to buy into hype until bull DLC/DRM is confirmed to NOT be connected to this and we see gameplay footage.
This! Soooo this. I have no hype for this remake at all because they might as well have just had some random dude come up on stage and said, "Oh, BTW, we're finally remaking FF7." Then he just leaves. Would have had the same impact.
I don't hate FF7, I mostly just dislike Cloud and his stupid emo attitude. I would have liked him better if he was silent. On the other hand everything after X-2 is just not even the same genre with wildly different game play and storytelling styles to the point of them not really even resembling Final Fantasy at all. So for me the series died long ago when they started pretending that spin-off titles were the main series and relegated proper sequels to mobile consoles with tiny budgets.
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Post by: VladCT on June 17, 2015, 04:21:16 AM
I don't hate FF7, I mostly just dislike Cloud and his stupid emo attitude.
Actually in the original FF7 he didn't display that much of a stupid emo attitude. It was his other appearances (KH, AC, Dissidia, etc.) that ended up flanderizing his personality into the one more widely known (and hated).
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on June 17, 2015, 07:43:49 AM
Actually in the original FF7 he didn't display that much of a stupid emo attitude. It was his other appearances (KH, AC, Dissidia, etc.) that ended up flanderizing his personality into the one more widely known (and hated).
For all Cloud's emo problems, there's only one person to blame: Nomura. And you'll see more emo-ness in the remake! ;D I still won't jump on the hype train, never was a fan of RPGs.
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Post by: VladCT on June 17, 2015, 08:10:17 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/17/final-fantasy-vii-remake-will-have-more-work-done-to-its-story/ (http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/17/final-fantasy-vii-remake-will-have-more-work-done-to-its-story/) Ergh, this bodes ill...
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Post by: Dracula9 on June 17, 2015, 09:15:52 AM
There's nothing overrated about FFVII. It was the first 3D game and the game that popularized RPGs in the west. If it wasn't for it, I doubt PS1 would have received as many rpgs it had.
It's the real deal. Now, if people don't like the characters/story/systems from the game, then it doesn't matter, since it's just an opinion. I'm just talking about things that I can measure, like sales/popularity.
FFVII was the game that got me into gaming, and even I must admit its fanbase has made it way more overrated and overhyped than is necessary.
Is it a great game? I think so. Does it have a good plot? I think so also. Is it full of characters with unique and assorted arcs and backstories? Most definitely.
Does that make it the quote-unquote "best game ever made" a large deal of its fanbase generally paints it as? Definitely not. For starters, its extremely basic models have aged horribly, despite having a certain nostalgia attached to them for the fans, and while it can somewhat be chalked up to being an earlier game, the amount of quality with which PSX games' graphics increased was very shortly after. Just look at FFVIII and Soul Reaver, both of which were but a couple of years after. I can't speak for everyone, but Minecraft-level blockiness and overabundant gradient shading isn't my cup of tea. In fact, I dare say that Legend of Dragoon did the gradient-and-texture formula a thousand times better (though the cleanness of the models is somewhat of another matter, since LoD did suffer from jittering during idle stances and some chain-moving sections didn't lock together as well as they could have, but I digress).
Then there's the whole matter of Aerith's almost entirely shallow character, which is regarded as a super-tragedy with her death when there's really hardly anything known about her to make it as tragic as it's treated. Sure, the bits of backstory you find out about later in the game in Icicle Inn (what a shitty name for a town, by the way) add a little bit more tragedy, but heaven forbid you tell a diehard FFVII fan you don't see why Aerith buying the farm is that big a deal.
Then there's the lovely Japanese trope of the completely overpowered omniscient MUAHAHA I PLANNED THIS ALL ALONG villain. I could bash Sephiroth all day for being as massive a Gary Stu as he is. Legendary assimilating alien life-form that has been recorded as the ultimate calamity? His bitch. Being completely and utterly destroyed in body in the very heart of the world? Fuck that shit, he's got a last-ditch in the form of mind powers over the protag! The fundamental life essence of the entire Planet and all the combined souls and wills of the dead from which no creature can escape or combat once dead? Not even a problem to him, the fucker comes back from it how many times?
Yeah, fuck Sephiroth. I give the bastard points for being so strong in will that his spirit literally just chills in the Lifestream until he's up to wreck some more shit, but that doesn't mean it's not completely ridiculous and OP beyond what is remotely acceptable.
These things, of course, are all things that would send any diehard fan of VII into a frenzy, because how dare you question the thing they see as perfect.
It's not perfect, and how well something sells is not probable cause to mislabel it as such. Popularity does not automatically determine absolute quality. This has all been a matter of opinion, but then again, you saying it's not overrated is also as such. Sales figures don't make you more right unless you're purely arguing that it sold well. Whether or not it's become overrated within its own community and beyond has nothing at all to do with sales figures.
FFVII is to Final Fantasy what SotN is to Castlevania...
...Except that SotN has aged much better in comparison. But still.
QUOTE THIEF QUOTE THIEF
As for the hype regarding this announcement...I'm not buying into it. An announcement with no evidence is just that, and considering how Squeenix's last batch of FF games has turned out, I'm not holding my breath for them keeping the story fairly close to the original. In fact, that trailer doesn't mean a damn thing to me, since it doesn't show a single area from the original game, barring Midgar, and is overlaid with the same cryptic-ass shit that Advent Children's prologue had.
"Oh but they said there was gonna be another Reunion that means it's a true remake!"
What a crock. Personally, I think this initial hype is solely because the fans have been badgering and screaming for it for almost twenty years. I predict that once footage starts to come out and announcements about plot changes are made that hype's gonna turn sour real fucking quick.
But I do know one thing. If they remove Mukki my jimmies will be beyond rustled. (https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg4.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20120104000224%2Ffinalfantasy%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fed%2FNPC-ffvii-mukki1.png%2F150px-NPC-ffvii-mukki1.png&hash=7cf29788d659c69f51189dbd6104bc94c6833ea2) Beyond rustled, Bubby.
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Post by: VladCT on June 17, 2015, 09:57:27 AM
I suppose most of the punch in Aerith's death comes from the fact that she was a playable character, and seeing as only FF4 dabbled in killing off PCs prior to FF7 (FF5 doesn't count as it wasn't released internationally at the time), without prior knowledge players would certainly be shocked when she bites the dust.
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Post by: Maedhros on June 17, 2015, 12:32:51 PM
Discussing things without any concrete data is an exercise in futility. Opinions will be made and ignored, because that shit is subjective.
What I'm saying is: FFVII is a highly acclaimed game, by both fans and critics. This is a fact, not an opinion. It's not a perfect game by any accounts (for me, only Super Metroid holds that candle).
But of course, there's always people who don't like something in anything. Doesn't make something overrated. Is Minecraft overrated just because I find it a borefest? No, it's just not for me.
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Post by: Dracula9 on June 17, 2015, 01:12:13 PM
Troll harder, bro. I never said critical acclaim was invalid here, only that sales figures are.
To call something overrated is, itself, an opinion, and is based upon the collective opinions of whatever's being called as such. Considering the large amount of people among the fanbase who declare the game perfect when it's anything but, it is not a reach to declare the game overrated by such a standard.
Might want to lose the passive-aggressive tone, no shit there'll always be someone to find flaws. Good job stating the obvious.
Gotta say, you're really living up to your username there. Is attempting to prove some notion that those who voice a given viewpoint are wrong your Silmaril?
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Post by: theplottwist on June 17, 2015, 02:40:08 PM
The SotN comparison is something I've done for years. But I stole the rest because there is only so many ways to word it effectivelly. YOINK!
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Post by: X on June 17, 2015, 02:48:09 PM
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Yeah, fuck Sephiroth. I give the bastard points for being so strong in will that his spirit literally just chills in the Lifestream until he's up to wreck some more shit, but that doesn't mean it's not completely ridiculous and OP beyond what is remotely acceptable.
They have this all the time in the Dragon Ball Z series. It just takes them ten times longer and you have to sit through several episodes before the climax, lol.
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Post by: Laina on June 17, 2015, 05:04:57 PM
FFVIII is my favorite in the series. Maybe one day they'll remake it, I hope!
Whatever.
For this remake, they should just remake the graphics... seriously, just remake the models, UI, enviroments, cgs/cutscenes...
Not before FFVI and FFV...
... seriously....
Tetsuya Nomura:
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“Considering that we have remakes of Final Fantasy up to IV and then we have VII — I’ve been working with Mr. [Yoshinori] Kitase since Final Fantasy V, and we’ve noticed that V and VI are missing. That bothers me,” Nomura said. “How come we skipped over those two?”
Wonder if they r going keep the cross-dressing part in the new build..?
They already confirmed it'll be in the game. (http://www.vg247.com/2015/06/17/final-fantasy-7-director-says-please-look-forward-to-crossdressing-cloud-in-the-gritty-remake/) :P
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Post by: Dracula9 on June 18, 2015, 08:00:37 AM
FUCK YEAH LOOKS LIKE MUKKI'S AROUND TO STAY
Although if they're keeping that in (thank god)...Corneo's gonna just be vile. He was creepy enough in blocky renders, but lifelike CGI renders?
*shudders*
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Post by: Inccubus on June 18, 2015, 08:31:42 AM
That article just destroyed any possible hype boner I might have potential had. "It's not a simple remake" Then why the fuck call it that in the reveal teaser?
The problem here is that what people want IS a straight remake. All they had to do was spruce up the script, fix bugs, and add some bonus content and everyone would have been happy. And it should have happened 10 years ago.
I have a feeling this is going to end up like the weird remake of FF4 on DS only even weirder and more wrong-ish feeling.
The best remakes of any final fantasy games are the Anniversary games and the FF4 Collection on PSP. I want that treatment for FF3, FF5, and FF6. (No I don't count the iOS/Android versions of FF5 & FF6 because they look like ass.) So just apply that same philosophy to FF7 and it's all good. But no, they HAVE to "evolve" it. I hate that word in reference to remakes because that usually means a shift to another sub-genre. If they are taking this long to make this game then they can't just be rewriting the story and scenario. It simply doesn't take that long. Mark my words they are fucking with the game play. And in light of the recent entries in the series it's going to be more of the same garbage.
PS- Oh, and expect the entire game's palette to be black and teal. Apparently, having a bright varied palette is a sin against "serious" game design now. God forbid my FANTASY RPG with the word FANTASY in the title should look like anything other than real life.
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Are you angry,bro?
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Yes. Fuck Square.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: Dracula9 on June 18, 2015, 12:11:58 PM
We've long since seen that Squeenix's head is so far up its own ass it could write its memoir and perform its colonoscopy at the same time.
These are the people who C&D'd Chrono Trigger Resurrection simply because they didn't think of it first (I refuse to accept any other reason) and allowed Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberusto be made.
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Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on June 18, 2015, 04:17:37 PM
I happen to genuinely like FF7 and regard it as my favorite RPG. I wasn't even born when it came out. :P
Title: this guy are sick
Post by: crisis on June 18, 2015, 08:23:19 PM
ppl have been literally begging for an FF7 remake for years, over a decade now that its happening, ppl are saying "noo theyre gonna ruin it." go figure
ive always thought the notion of a FF7 remake was a BAD idea, just for this reason. the fanbase is fickle & can never truly be pleased. they would ask for it to be 100% like the original with ALL ITS FLAWS, just update the graphics. and still complain because all they did was update the graphics & nothing else
on the flipside they fix the flaws & correct things & make necessary gameplay changes that will make it more accessable for this new generation, then the fanbase will cry fowl on how they changed it too much & it was "perfect as it is." see where im getting at? square enix literally cannot win
the odds are stacked against them. they finally gave into the fanbases demands & now theres literally no way they can live up to those demands, b/c once the game is released everyone is gonna rip it apart & condemn squarenix for even trying
what they SHOULDVE done, in my opinion, is instead of remaking/enhancing FF7, they shoulda said screw that & just make a FFVII-2. that way it'll be its own beast, built from the ground up & having the original as its backbone. they wont have to adhere to certain aspects of the original that they "HAD TO TRANSLATE 110% PERFECT FOR US" becuz sequels allow for them to try new things. none of the "THEY ADDED STUFF/THEY TOOK AWAY STUFF" complaints that FFVII ps4 is inevitably gonna be cursed with by the fans
FF7-2 couldve served as a sure fire end to the entire story. close out every arc & answer every remaining question that the Compilation has done. everything that has happened in Before Crisis, Crisis Core, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, even the FF7 epilogue that takes place 500 years in the future, EVERYTHING from beginning to end. close genesis' story, reveal Sephiroth's final fate, etc. TRUE closure so they can close that book & finally move on.
so yeah. FF7 "remake" is a mistake & squarenix has a long uphill battle thats impossible to win. as for me personally? i loved the original till this day & im sure im gonna love this one, too. im easy to please, after all. game came out in 1997 and its still being talked about almost 20 years later. love it or hate it, nobody can deny its everlasting legacy on the gaming industry.
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Post by: piscesdreams on June 18, 2015, 08:25:24 PM
At the risk of the lynch mob, I do agree FFVII is to Final Fantasy what SOTN is to Castlevania, a radical change of the series roots in hopes to reinvigorate the series. And by sales numbers and critical acclaim, they accomplished this. I just feel both are heavily overhyped, though I do feel SOTN is the stronger game. For the fans sake, I hope it is what everyone wants. I'm interested to see how it shapes up, but I've let my nostalgia boner blind me too many times and end up being heavily disappointed. I personally feel when companies remake games, they should look to the Earthworm Jim remake. It was a straight hd remake. Fans don't want the same game with a different gameplay style when they demand remakes. I want a Resident Evil 2 remake so bad it makes my balls chafe. But I know Capcom would most likely take the RE4 presentation route. They only are hdifying the REmake and Zero the way they are because they were already made, same as RE4. It's so sad to see companies say "we hear you fans!" And totally botch it. Now, this is all speculation and merely my opinion because no gameplay was revealed. Again, I hope everyone gets what they truly want, but Squares track record tells me otherwise. If they DO a straight remake, I will eagerly buy it. But I think they feel the turn based style is outdated and won't do it. But hey, publishers know what fans want right? It's not like Konami said no one wanted the metroidvania style or Bloodstained proved them wrong or anything. :)
Title: Re: this guy are sick
Post by: BalancedHydra on June 18, 2015, 08:56:42 PM
ppl have been literally begging for an FF7 remake for years, over a decade now that its happening, ppl are saying "noo theyre gonna ruin it." go figure
ive always thought the notion of a FF7 remake was a BAD idea, just for this reason. the fanbase is fickle & can never truly be pleased. they would ask for it to be 100% like the original with ALL ITS FLAWS, just update the graphics. and still complain because all they did was update the graphics & nothing else
on the flipside they fix the flaws & correct things & make necessary gameplay changes that will make it more accessable for this new generation, then the fanbase will cry fowl on how they changed it too much & it was "perfect as it is." see where im getting at? square enix literally cannot win
the odds are stacked against them. they finally gave into the fanbases demands & now theres literally no way they can live up to those demands, b/c once the game is released everyone is gonna rip it apart & condemn squarenix for even trying
what they SHOULDVE done, in my opinion, is instead of remaking/enhancing FF7, they shoulda said screw that & just make a FFVII-2. that way it'll be its own beast, built from the ground up & having the original as its backbone. they wont have to adhere to certain aspects of the original that they "HAD TO TRANSLATE 110% PERFECT FOR US" becuz sequels allow for them to try new things. none of the "THEY ADDED STUFF/THEY TOOK AWAY STUFF" complaints that FFVII ps4 is inevitably gonna be cursed with by the fans
FF7-2 couldve served as a sure fire end to the entire story. close out every arc & answer every remaining question that the Compilation has done. everything that has happened in Before Crisis, Crisis Core, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, even the FF7 epilogue that takes place 500 years in the future, EVERYTHING from beginning to end. close genesis' story, reveal Sephiroth's final fate, etc. TRUE closure so they can close that book & finally move on.
so yeah. FF7 "remake" is a mistake & squarenix has a long uphill battle thats impossible to win. as for me personally? i loved the original till this day & im sure im gonna love this one, too. im easy to please, after all. game came out in 1997 and its still being talked about almost 20 years later. love it or hate it, nobody can deny its everlasting legacy on the gaming industry.
This is pretty much the reason why i went. "Oh God. Really?" also this.
He actually brings some fair points that I can understand and agree to a point. Regardless... Square Enix can't afford to botch this game up at all. They will never recover if they do.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: KaZudra on June 18, 2015, 11:54:18 PM
Like I said, even if the remake sucks, there is still the original with nothing wrong with it. The most that they'll do with it is add more plots involving the rest of the FF7 saga, probably a bonus Genesis fight, a few Zack flashbacks, and a few things like that. As long as everything that is present in the original is there, I have no real issues, no cut content. The Battle system will however change, no avoiding it, I just hope it's more in-line of FFX,X-2, than FFXIII,XII-2. Controlling all characters is important. The Materia system might see a revamp heavily borrowing from Crisis Core, Which will probably good.
But the boiling point in making this remake work of not is the most important aspect. Story and Characters, screw this up and everything falls apart, so let's not go advent children and fuck up Cloud, okay?
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Post by: Claimh Solais on June 19, 2015, 02:41:35 AM
The less Genesis the better. They should just completely retcon him and Dirge of Cerberus while they're at it.
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Post by: zangetsu468 on June 19, 2015, 03:03:08 AM
As a previous poster said FFVII to Squenix is like CV SOTN to Konami. If Konami ever decided to do a complete remake of SOTN, everyone would be all over it jumping with joy. I can't believe there are people whinging about this like it's a bad thing.
Squenix need to reinvigorate their franchise and look ahead of FFXV, what better way than to do FFVII the way it was supposed to be done? FFVII is one of the greatest games of all time, let the original have its charm and be untouched, but it deserves this.
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Post by: Inccubus on June 19, 2015, 04:57:57 PM
You assume square is going to do it the way "it was supposed to be done", but the entire reason that the game became popular was the way it was actually done. I really don't think most people want the game to be completely overhauled. I sure don't. I want updated graphics, bug fixes, revised script that cleans up any plot holes, and a competent translation. I don't need the game play to be changed at all except to prevent some of the game breaking materia combos. That said, I have no faith that this will be the case.
And someone mentioned how the fans would go wild if SotN got a remake... sure as long as they wouldn't decide to change it into a run and gun platformer or 3D action game.
This isn't such a complicated thing to accomplish. What makes a good remake? Look at SCV4 and CV Chronicles. Those are good remakes. Maverick Hunter X that's a good remake. Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals? That is a BAD remake, and that is what I'm afraid is going to happen.
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Post by: Dracula9 on June 19, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
SCVIV is a remake? :o
Another thing to consider is that there's content in the original that'd be considered too risque nowadays...like the gay bodybuilder who's all over you and is implied to have taken advantage of you while you were unconscious, or the girls in the skimpy little bee suits that would send the feminist forces into a frenzy.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: crisis on June 19, 2015, 07:41:59 PM
i think it would be best to approach FFVII as if it's a brand new game and ignore the fact that its even a remake. i know thats gonna be near-impossible but honestly thats the best we could hope for as of right now
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Post by: Claimh Solais on June 19, 2015, 08:20:16 PM
This isn't such a complicated thing to accomplish. What makes a good remake? Look at SCV4 and CV Chronicles. Those are good remakes. Maverick Hunter X that's a good remake. Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals? That is a BAD remake, and that is what I'm afraid is going to happen.
Super Castlevania IV barely even resembles the original Castlevania, and on top of that plays completely differently because of the A) controllable jumping and B) multi-directional whipping. Playing IV and playing the original are completely different ball games because not only do they play completely differently and employ entirely different strategies to defeating some enemies, they're just not the same game at all.
With CV Chronicles, if you mean the Chronicles Arranged Mode, that's pretty much the original with some sprite swaps. The original version, for the Sharp X68000, is a lot closer, but only select areas of the castle really resemble the original, despite the gameplay being far closer to the original game.
So I'll give you Chronicles for your point, but SCIV doesn't help nor hinder your point, since the game is so radically different that it's practically a different game.
i think it would be best to approach FFVII as if it's a brand new game and ignore the fact that its even a remake. i know thats gonna be near-impossible but honestly thats the best we could hope for as of right now
This would be the ideal solution, but with how popular the original game was, they'll be constantly using the whole "it's a remake idea" regardless, since there's a lot they do need to keep.
As for how the game will be when it's done, if the gameplay is entirely different, it won't bother me. If it's fun, I'll like it. I don't want the same game, though. I've already played FF7. But making it a direct remake other than graphics and a few other minor changes won't feel that great at all, and I'll probably get bored of it really quickly. That's a big reason Halo: Anniversary Edition was a gift and not a purchase of my own volition, because the fresh coat of paint loses its novelty really quickly.
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Post by: Codebreak1337 on June 21, 2015, 02:49:33 PM
YAY !
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: zangetsu468 on June 22, 2015, 02:08:37 AM
Super Castlevania IV barely even resembles the original Castlevania, and on top of that plays completely differently because of the A) controllable jumping and B) multi-directional whipping. Playing IV and playing the original are completely different ball games because not only do they play completely differently and employ entirely different strategies to defeating some enemies, they're just not the same game at all.
This. Exactly my point. There's no sense just overhauling the game again, they've already done this for the PC version.
Yes Inccubus, the way it was released was the way I liked it and you know what? I liked the original CV, which didn't stop me from liking SCIV as a re-imagining of the original. The same way I liked Dracula XX and I actually prefer it over Rondo.
The purists like yourself can the original FFVII, it's an awesome game. There's not harm in remaking it, it doesn't take away from the original game. If anything any plotholes and scripting issues would be cleared up as well by your logic. And who is to say it won't be a remake which is incredibly faithful to the original...
EDIT: @Inccubus, not Crisis, apologies for this
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Post by: Inccubus on June 22, 2015, 10:22:45 AM
Well, the latest PC version is just a port with a few modern additions that are really outside the game itself.
But your point still stands. My issue with it is that they call it a remake to drum up interest, but the people working on it openly admit it isn't really a remake at all. The time it's taking to make is evidence enough for me that they are basically making a new game with FF7's upgraded skin. I wouldn't mind as much if they just called it what it is and if it wasn't likely to be moving to a style of play I detest. That said, I'll admit I'm being super pessimistic about it. But can you really blame me after so many years of FFs that barely even resemble the games I enjoyed playing before FF11?
I'll just stick to the PC version with all it's improvement mods.
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Post by: KaZudra on June 22, 2015, 03:59:42 PM
This. Exactly my point. There's no sense just overhauling the game again, they've already done this for the PC version.
Yes Inccubus, the way it was released was the way I liked it and you know what? I liked the original CV, which didn't stop me from liking SCIV as a re-imagining of the original. The same way I liked Dracula XX and I actually prefer it over Rondo.
The purists like yourself can the original FFVII, it's an awesome game. There's not harm in remaking it, it doesn't take away from the original game. If anything any plotholes and scripting issues would be cleared up as well by your logic. And who is to say it won't be a remake which is incredibly faithful to the original...
EDIT: @Inccubus, not Crisis, apologies for this
I would love to see a fan game that re-creates Rondo using Dracula XX resources
Well, the latest PC version is just a port with a few modern additions that are really outside the game itself.
But your point still stands. My issue with it is that they call it a remake to drum up interest, but the people working on it openly admit it isn't really a remake at all. The time it's taking to make is evidence enough for me that they are basically making a new game with FF7's upgraded skin. I wouldn't mind as much if they just called it what it is and if it wasn't likely to be moving to a style of play I detest. That said, I'll admit I'm being super pessimistic about it. But can you really blame me after so many years of FFs that barely even resemble the games I enjoyed playing before FF11?
I'll just stick to the PC version with all it's improvement mods.
Exactly my point, The FF7 remake will definitely be different from the original, how different? probably not by too much but enough to set it apart from the original, but that being said, but FF7 is so highly accessible these days that you can play it on near anything (modern devices). I still play it on PSP time to time.
The less Genesis the better. They should just completely retcon him and Dirge of Cerberus while they're at it.
Actually retconning Dirge wouldn't be bad, or at least from canon to a gaiden. I never played Dirge, so I never met Genesis from Dirge, but he wasn't too bad in Crisis Core.
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Post by: Super Waffle on June 22, 2015, 06:22:40 PM
Actually retconning Dirge wouldn't be bad, or at least from canon to a gaiden. I never played Dirge, so I never met Genesis from Dirge, but he wasn't too bad in Crisis Core.
Genesis actually only makes a cameo at the very very very very very end of Dirge of Cerberus in a post-credits scene. It was just them stamping more Gackt collaboration into the game (after Gackt's "Redemption" was used for the credits and his "Longing" was used for one of the final battles). Gackt portrayed Genesis in a live-action cutscene at the end, and that's pretty much how he was born. Square wanted to put Gackt into Final Fantasy. This, however, isn't where my gripes with him began. I didn't really mind it, and his costume design was actually far better in Dirge. (http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121101075236/finalfantasy/images/1/10/Genesis%27s_Coat_Display.jpg)
My gripes began with him in Crisis Core. Firstly, his character design was simplified (http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110225233725/finalfantasy/images/3/3e/GenesisCGModel-CrisisCore.png), to where he was just wearing a generic red coat with shoulder-pads. (In case you were wondering, Gackt DOES indeed voice him in the Japanese dub). Secondly, while his motivations began at first as something worth caring about (searching for a cure to his degradation), eventually he just became overly obsessed with a poem, to the point where he was just an obsessed fanboy.
Had the poem of Loveless been adored in the way poetry like The Odyssey and Hamlet are -- loved and well-known by the masses, and everyone knows what they are despite the fact that they're not widely spoken of in the general public -- it wouldn't have even been as bad. But Loveless is literature that was treated as if it were Harry Potter or The Hunger Games -- widely popular and talked about by a lot of people and plastered all over the media. Loveless' stage adaptation was one of the most talked about things in Midgar at the time, and I think they even mentioned a film adaptation in the works somewhere (though I might be wrong about this).
So in the end, it basically has Genesis come off as a nerdy kid to me. It'd be like Genesis thinking of himself as Ron Weasley, with Angeal as Hermione Granger and Sephiroth as Harry Potter. He'd probably even, at that point, consider Shinra to be Voldemort. Genesis comes across, to me, as a geeky fanboy, and in something like Final Fantasy VII, that doesn't make a good villain or even a good character to me (in contrast, a villain like that in something like Saints Row would probably fit in just fine).
On top of that, the fact that he quotes Loveless literally every time he's in a cutscene annoys the crap out of me.
His weapons and powers are really cool, though. I just hate the character of Genesis.
On a side note, the inclusion of Genesis and Angeal bugged me, because never at any later point in the timeline are these two EVER mentioned or remembered, despite the fact that they were two of the three First Class SOLDIERs, and even had their own fanclubs like Sephiroth. Plus, nobody even remembers all the destruction that Genesis caused in Midgar.
Title: Re: FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE ANNOUNCED BY SONY AT EƎ
Post by: Super Waffle on June 23, 2015, 10:46:11 AM
They should replace Aerith's death with a scene of Gackt killing Hyde.
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Post by: VladCT on June 23, 2015, 12:06:35 PM
Who do you suppose Hyde's self-insert OC will be? :V
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Post by: Super Waffle on June 23, 2015, 05:12:20 PM
Probably some out of place pretty boy with a lot of belts and pants like Isaac in Curse of Darkness.
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Post by: Claimh Solais on June 23, 2015, 07:13:56 PM
Final Fantasy VII Remake will be more realistic, but won't have new characters. (http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/23/final-fantasy-vii-remake-will-be-more-realistic-but-wont-have-new-characters/)
Does this mean new to the game, or new to the compilation? I hope the former, so we can keep Gacktenis Rhapui out of the game.
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Post by: Super Waffle on June 23, 2015, 10:48:47 PM
I hope Hermione doesn't show up.
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Post by: X on June 24, 2015, 11:44:10 PM
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Probably some out of place pretty boy with a lot of belts and pants like Isaac in Curse of Darkness.
I definitely don't want to see this in FFVII. That shit's just plane wrong and it was wrong in castlevania :P
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Post by: Inccubus on June 26, 2015, 01:19:07 AM
Started playing Crisis Core for the first time yesterday and really enjoy it! Obviously its very different from FVII but the combat is fun and I wouldn't mind that mix of action/turn-based in the remake.
That is exactly what I don't want to see happen. I like Crisis Core just fine, but FF7 doesn't need a game play change that drastic. Tweaks are fine, but anything more and it will change the character of the game too much. At that point it might as well be FF7-2.
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Post by: Super Waffle on June 26, 2015, 03:28:33 AM
what can I do for you
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Post by: crisis on June 26, 2015, 07:01:52 PM
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That is exactly what I don't want to see happen. I like Crisis Core just fine, but FF7 doesn't need a game play change that drastic. Tweaks are fine, but anything more and it will change the character of the game too much. At that point it might as well be FF7-2.
thats what it shoulda been man. a direct sequel opens them to switch up the gameplay as they please. new characters, story elements, etc. way more possibilities & freedom. a remake, while refreshing, is still restricting
but if ff7 remake is successful (and we all know it WILL be) then they can and will make a FF7-2 anyway
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on June 27, 2015, 05:06:31 AM