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Title: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: AxeLord on July 12, 2015, 11:31:09 AM: I was wondering if it's at all possible to port Order of Shadows to a console of some kind. From what I understand, isn't Java fairly flexible? Having this game available on anything other than cheap flip phones would be awesome.

I'm not knowledgeable about this stuff, so if there's anyone who can tell me anything, please do!
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Belmontoya on July 12, 2015, 12:09:13 PM: I've been wanting to play this game for a while.

PC or ouya would be nice.

There has to be a way!
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 12, 2015, 05:03:42 PM: I managed to play it through an emulator, but the damn thing kept crashing on me. I would like a legit way to play it.

Though the game has some serious control problems, among other things. If someone could rebuild it for PC and polish the game up, THAT would be awesome.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: AxeLord on July 12, 2015, 07:43:37 PM: I'd like to see it remade for, say, Super Nintendo. Perhaps using the Dracula X engine. That way I could have a cart made so I can put it on my shelf. :P
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Belmontoya on July 12, 2015, 09:47:42 PM: The attack speed looks ridiculously slow.

But it looks like it could be enjoyable for other things.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: coinilius on July 12, 2015, 10:44:03 PM: First post on the Dungeon forums (and in a thread about Order of Shadows no less!) so please be gentle:

I recently played this using an emulator as part of a chronological/timeline inspired play through of the Castlevania series that I am currently doing and in all honesty, it is really not all that bad, especially given the automatic limitations of trying to do a Castlevania game for phones of that period.

That said, I wouldn't want to even try and play it on an actual phone, but even just playing it on a laptop using the keyboard and the controls were really quiet manageable. Even the strange jump mechanics weren't a problem and can actually be quite useful once you know how to exploit them.

Not sure about the feasibility of porting the game to a cartridge though - I did a quick google and there was talk of a device for playing Java games on the GBA from years ago, but all links seem to be dead now.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: X on July 12, 2015, 11:16:31 PM: I sure as hell would love to play this game to see where exactly it would fit chronologically. I've read the story but playing the game itself would make it a more personal experience. Porting it over to PC like they did with the PC Dracula X CD Rom would be a good bet I think.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: AxeLord on July 13, 2015, 12:21:58 AM: Quote
I sure as hell would love to play this game to see where exactly it would fit chronologically.

It's in the late 17th century. I always put it pre-Simon. I consider the protagonist, Desmond, to be Simon's father/brother.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on July 13, 2015, 01:07:56 AM: Playing it on a phone is torture. I've tried. :'(
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: coinilius on July 13, 2015, 01:35:26 AM: Quote from: AxeLord on July 13, 2015, 12:21:58 AM
It's in the late 17th century. I always put it pre-Simon. I consider the protagonist, Desmond, to be Simon's father/brother.

That's where I place it as well - I also like to think that the Order has been behind other Dracula resurrections as well, since there is always secret groups meeting to revive him. The only issue with it is that
(click to show/hide)
the Castle doesn't crumble at the end, and there's a question of what evil power could be keeping it standing
which doesn't get resolved or go anywhere.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: ProjectDread on July 13, 2015, 01:54:11 AM: Wouldn't be very difficult to program a fangame engine for this, main issue I'd see would just be graphics.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 18, 2015, 11:00:58 PM: Quote from: ProjectDread on July 13, 2015, 01:54:11 AM
Wouldn't be very difficult to program a fangame engine for this, main issue I'd see would just be graphics.

I've been working on a Desmond sprite-sheet for quite a long time now. He's an edit of Richter, since Desmond's sprites resembled Richter's anyway. I have all his basic movements done, the only ones I need to do now are his unique animations from the game (using swords/magic, dying, etc.)

I had plans to remake all the sprites from the game but I got lazy and never finished it, lol. Might one day, though.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: zangetsu468 on July 19, 2015, 12:37:19 AM: Quote from: X on July 12, 2015, 11:16:31 PM
I sure as hell would love to play this game to see where exactly it would fit chronologically. I've read the story but playing the game itself would make it a more personal experience. Porting it over to PC like they did with the PC Dracula X CD Rom would be a good bet I think.

I thought there was an IGA interview at the time of it's release which stated Order of Shadows was a Gaiden to the main series, meaning it wouldn't have to fit.
If anything it would be Legends>OOS>CV64>LOD as a side story.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: X on July 19, 2015, 10:17:21 AM: zangetsu468@

You heard right. Nevertheless I'm still curious :)
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Belmontoya on July 19, 2015, 10:34:54 AM: Couldn't someone just rip the graphics from the game?

I think it would be more interesting if it were as close to the original game as possible. Things like graphics/sound/music should be the originals from the game. The rest can probably be improved in easily based on the videos I've seen.

I want to know what I missed.

????
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on July 19, 2015, 11:26:48 AM: Quote from: Belmontoya on July 19, 2015, 10:34:54 AM
Things like graphics/sound/music should be the originals from the game. The rest can probably be improved in easily based on the videos I've seen.

Disclude the sound plz. Sound was originally in midi format.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: X on July 19, 2015, 09:17:44 PM: It was probably low-quality since it was a cell phone game, however even midi files~given a higher quality~can sound just as good as a wave or mp3 file.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: BLOOD MONKEY on July 19, 2015, 09:26:53 PM: Quote from: X on July 19, 2015, 09:17:44 PM
It was probably low-quality since it was a cell phone game, however even midi files~given a higher quality~can sound just as good as a wave or mp3 file.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsewUVzhOcA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsewUVzhOcA)
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Inccubus on July 26, 2015, 01:34:38 AM: They did release a higher quality version of the soundtrack. IIRC the composer released it after some time since you basically can't get the game anymore. If anyone wants it I have these "Roland Remixes" in mp3 format.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 26, 2015, 03:18:28 AM: Quote from: Inccubus on July 26, 2015, 01:34:38 AM
They did release a higher quality version of the soundtrack. IIRC the composer released it after some time since you basically can't get the game anymore. If anyone wants it I have these "Roland Remixes" in mp3 format.

I want!
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: VladCT on July 26, 2015, 05:08:15 AM: Quote from: Inccubus on July 26, 2015, 01:34:38 AM
They did release a higher quality version of the soundtrack. IIRC the composer released it after some time since you basically can't get the game anymore. If anyone wants it I have these "Roland Remixes" in mp3 format.
I'm interested in this.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: X on July 26, 2015, 08:40:06 AM: Quote
They did release a higher quality version of the soundtrack. IIRC the composer released it after some time since you basically can't get the game anymore. If anyone wants it I have these "Roland Remixes" in mp3 format.

Sweet! Want. :)
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 26, 2015, 09:27:26 AM: I found a playlist of them on YouTube if anyone wants to listen. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGU9MZHPZ9s&list=PL6B2302009C7E3897&index=1) No download unfortunately.

Always did think OoS had some pretty cool music. Hearing it at higher qualities is awesome. A properly working version of the game would be siiiiick.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: VladCT on July 26, 2015, 09:55:29 AM: You know, it's a happy coincidence that the guy ended up working alongside Michiru Yamane herself on Skullgirls' soundtrack. Quite impressive how far he's come.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Dark Nemesis on July 26, 2015, 12:22:38 PM: I remember that there was a guy here, that he has told me that he was the one who has made the music for OoS and that he was having all the tracks in arrange format, but he couldn't give them away.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on July 26, 2015, 04:21:11 PM: Wow, that means Vincent Diamante was probably a member of the Dungeon. :o
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Inccubus on July 26, 2015, 08:11:26 PM: I'll have these mp3 uploaded for everyone soon. Maybe by tomorrow.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: X on July 26, 2015, 11:10:47 PM: Quote
I found a playlist of them on YouTube if anyone wants to listen. No download unfortunately.

Always did think OoS had some pretty cool music. Hearing it at higher qualities is awesome. A properly working version of the game would be siiiiick.

This is easily fixable. I have a you tube to mp3 converter program saved on my machine. This allows me to download stuff as well. Saved me a lot of time getting my hands on music that I couldn't find any other way.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: VladCT on July 27, 2015, 12:10:15 AM: That only gets you shitty CBR 128 transcodes though. :P
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Dark Nemesis on July 27, 2015, 12:59:55 AM: Quote from: Jorge D. Fuentes on July 26, 2015, 04:21:11 PM
Wow, that means Vincent Diamante was probably a member of the Dungeon. :o

I can't remember his name, we have talked through PM and he has told me that he couldn't make a public release of the tracks.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: VladCT on July 27, 2015, 06:14:37 AM: Is the PM still in your inbox, by any chance?
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Claimh Solais on July 27, 2015, 10:51:29 PM: Quote from: X on July 26, 2015, 11:10:47 PM
This is easily fixable. I have a you tube to mp3 converter program saved on my machine. This allows me to download stuff as well. Saved me a lot of time getting my hands on music that I couldn't find any other way.

Like Vlad stated, this gives you terribly compressed versions of the audio. Which is why if there's no direct audio download, then I don't bother. :-\
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: X on July 28, 2015, 12:30:08 AM: Quote
Like Vlad stated, this gives you terribly compressed versions of the audio.

I haven't noticed this yet. And that's because the program I'm using (Free Studio version 6.4) allows you to adjust the quality settings for what you're converting.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: VladCT on July 28, 2015, 12:52:37 AM: Conversion quality wouldn't matter, audio in youtube videos are internally transcoded to CBR 128.
Title: Re: Porting Order of Shadows?
Post by: Inccubus on July 28, 2015, 04:35:35 PM: The MP3's I have are CBR 128bit, so they might have been a rip.
I don't really remember where I got them.
Still better than the ones in the actual game.
Worst case scenario someone could cover them.