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Title: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: olroxshade on April 04, 2008, 11:10:33 PM
Wondering if this is true:
http://www.siliconera.com/2008/04/04/konami-developing-castlevania-order-of-ecclesia/

Fake? or a late April Fool...or just....a hope of new CV...
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: Azmodan on April 04, 2008, 11:21:21 PM
Nice find.
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Post by: Melanicus on April 04, 2008, 11:28:29 PM
 Hmm... as the article says, it's true that "ecclesia" used to mean "gathering", but it came to mean "church" (as in a religious organization, not a particular building). If this really is the title of the new game, I wonder if it could finally be the 1999 game, since the Church would be involved. 
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Post by: Profbeanburrito on April 04, 2008, 11:59:12 PM
Hmm... as the article says, it's true that "ecclesia" used to mean "gathering", but it came to mean "church" (as in a religious organization, not a particular building). If this really is the title of the new game, I wonder if it could finally be the 1999 game, since the Church would be involved. 


I think it would be refering more to "church" in a cult sort of way. Usually an "order" is used for evil doing.
Maybe it's a sequel to Order of Shadows and will expand more on Desmond?
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Post by: Azmodan on April 04, 2008, 11:59:50 PM
I doubt it. OoS isn't part of the canon.
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Post by: Abster on April 05, 2008, 12:28:21 AM
This is likely the English name for "The Stolen Seal", the game who had leaked screenshots months before.
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Post by: RichterX on April 05, 2008, 03:36:19 AM
I would imagine that the game of 1999 would be a console game, and this one would be the one leading up to it, but thats me being optimistic.
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Post by: Munchy on April 05, 2008, 03:46:43 AM
The title reminds me of donuts for some reason, but otherwise I'm all for it.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on April 05, 2008, 05:29:57 AM
If this going to be true, then i'm happy with this name, because it has something mysterious on it and also a greek reference! ;D

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Post by: superDioplus on April 05, 2008, 09:10:28 AM
This is good news, maybe its the early leaked game in English?
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Post by: Bloodreign on April 05, 2008, 10:26:51 AM
In Reply To #8

You're thinking of
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Post by: Rictrunks on April 05, 2008, 10:44:44 AM
Gamefront confirms also this.
http://www.gfdata.de/archiv03-2008-gamefront/castle1.jpg
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: Gunlord on April 05, 2008, 11:15:09 AM
In Reply To #2

Bloodelfking, please forgive my ignorance, but is that Chirico Cuvie from VOTOMs in your avatar? :D :D :D :D

Also, here's hoping that this news isn't really a fake...;_;
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: olroxshade on April 05, 2008, 11:25:23 AM
In Reply To #12

Link not working, here's another :x

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/7932/castle1af9.jpg

Oh well, maybe this is the good one.
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Post by: Long John Silver on April 05, 2008, 11:40:09 AM
It works, you just can't direct link it. Copy and paste it to a new window.

Also I don't think it'll have much to do with some order or gathering. Usa titles usually don't have anything to do with the game's content. If something, it'd probably have more to do with that seal from the jap title.
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Post by: angevil on April 05, 2008, 04:14:23 PM
The logo silver color looks the same as the logo on the leaked screenshots. There is even that white line in the middle. I think this confirms that the leaked screens were real.
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faycu37.webshots.com%2Fimage%2F50436%2F2004783545541406765_rs.jpg&hash=49b2bc1948067184a6fddb413c666038e077931c)

I don`t like the female sprite that looks similar to Charlotte and that boss that some said looks like crab, to me looks like crap..vomit actually, so I hoped it wasn`t real. There should be some improvement by now, many months have passed.
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Post by: Saner on April 05, 2008, 06:40:24 PM
if it's a mobile game, it's a waste.

if its a DS game, it's still a waste.  =P

they gotta release these 2-D games on consoles again,
like what SOTN did for PSX.

Hey maybe they could up the graphics like King of Fighters XII did.

but I wouldn't mind recycled sprites either.  Meh it's most
likely a DS game.  but it should at least be the 1999 battle
everyone is waiting for.
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Post by: crisis on April 05, 2008, 07:02:42 PM
If it's a DS game (which we all know it is), we'll all still buy it though
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Post by: Saner on April 05, 2008, 07:25:11 PM
In Reply To #18

yeah a DS game would be okay, at least the youtube vids
and stuff of it will be worth watching compared to a useless
mobile phone game.

hey anyone still have the links to the leaked screenshots?
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: Long John Silver on April 05, 2008, 07:46:56 PM
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we'll all still buy it though
Speak for yourself.

Unless it manages to fix everything dos and pork butchered and reach at least the gba games' level design quality, I'll have one more excuse to use my m3, other than that vn engine. :o
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: Gunlord on April 05, 2008, 08:05:20 PM
m3? Pardon my ignorance ^^;;;
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Post by: Azmodan on April 05, 2008, 08:05:57 PM
hey anyone still have the links to the leaked screenshots?

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi228.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee35%2Fbeingthehero%2Fnewdscvmaybe2.jpg%3Ft%3D1207433097&hash=cee81a96ba944df5e1234cba5f067c05421628de)

And indeed Gunlord, Chirico is my avatar. :D

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Post by: crisis on April 05, 2008, 08:16:30 PM
Well.. everyone except you, Serio  :P

I wonder if they're gonna use a special promotion with this game like they did with the other ones?
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Post by: Mr Sven on April 05, 2008, 08:48:16 PM
I think Pork only had extras cause it was castlevania's 20th anniversary... Drac X had them cause it was a special game everyone had been waiting for for over ten years and Konami had to do "something" to make up for the huge wait.
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Post by: jimmay17 on April 05, 2008, 09:56:29 PM
The silveriness of the logo is interesting when compared to the "leaked" title shot.
If this turns out to be another crappy mobile game I will be pissed.
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Post by: Long John Silver on April 05, 2008, 10:27:10 PM
In Reply To #21

Basically a ds flashcard. To play homebrews, movies, pirated games etc.
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Post by: Saner on April 06, 2008, 02:13:01 AM
hopefully its true that the main character is female.  :)
that would be a refreshing change.
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Post by: Oralox on April 06, 2008, 02:24:10 AM
In Reply To #25

When you say "mobile" I am reminded of Order of Shadows and that both of these names are the same with the "Order" in it.
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Post by: crisis on April 06, 2008, 05:58:18 AM
Quote from: Serio
Basically a ds flashcard. To play homebrews, movies, pirated games etc.
I need to get me one of those! How much did it cost?
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: jestercolony on April 06, 2008, 07:10:57 AM
beeeeeeeeer. Excuse me while I try and type this as I am drunk. Note: If typing good than I am grand master. But hopefully the new CV will be awesome. I just hope Mr. IGAsan has learned from his past mistakes with the level design and copy + paste monsters wont be continued as that has got boring quick. I just wish they'd release info about the new CV game soon. But I believe it is good that they havent stated anything so it MIGHT be something fresh and new.

Oh any Mod dewds out there? I'd like someone to help me with a Simon's Quest remake in Castletroid  format. I got a good idea with a story, maybe I can add some music or 2-3, I don't know.  Give it more purpose, fix up the mistranscript dialogue and such. (It would be my first time working on a project but I want to do something fun and exciting.

If you wish to find out more

aim: pneumamorte
yahoo: theshatteredsphere
msn: jestercolony@hotmail.com
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: Long John Silver on April 06, 2008, 09:56:05 AM
In Reply To #29

Depends where you live really. Importing it to Poland was expensive (Mine costed around $200 or so), but getting it in Usa it shouldn't be that much.

I think slot 2 ones (gba card) are slightly more expensive since you also have to buy a passcard to trick the ds into booting the ds games off a gba card.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: Gunlord on April 06, 2008, 12:16:49 PM
Flashcard? Cool cool, Thanks for telling me. Pardon my igtnorance.

And Chirico is always awesome. :D :D :D
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Post by: CVfan13 on April 07, 2008, 07:22:57 PM
In Reply To #1

Meh, I dont think Iga would really do that, but even what I said was true, it doesnt mean this isnt a fake. I mean, it could have been a prank, hoax or rumor started by anyone. Really, who knows? Only time will tell.
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: le052383 on April 07, 2008, 07:42:32 PM
In Reply To #29

Depends where you live really. Importing it to Poland was expensive (Mine costed around $200 or so), but getting it in Usa it shouldn't be that much.

I think slot 2 ones (gba card) are slightly more expensive since you also have to buy a passcard to trick the ds into booting the ds games off a gba card.

The R4 costs around 50-70 since there seems to be a shortage of the card.  I heard they used to cost 30-40.  The r4 is currently the popular one for being simple to use and requires no additional equipment with the exception of a SD Micro card. 

Speaking of the flashcards, Serio, how does one rip sprites from the DS with such a device? 
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: Oralox on April 08, 2008, 12:44:34 AM
In Reply To #34

ENOUGH!! (with the rom stuff)

My ship sails in the morning.

I wonder whats for dinner
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Post by: Munchy on April 08, 2008, 01:30:40 AM
Because we still have a while before an actual press release, how about some good ol' speculation?

Judging from the title and the leaked screenshots from a few months ago, I'm going to guess perhaps this game is about the origins of whatever "church" all the Belnades family members claim to belong to.
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Post by: Long John Silver on April 08, 2008, 03:16:45 AM
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Speaking of the flashcards, Serio, how does one rip sprites from the DS with such a device?
You can't. Flashcards are for playing, not ripping. But I guess if you can romhack you can use that to rip sprites.
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Post by: Mooning Freddy on April 09, 2008, 02:37:20 PM
WHAT??

ORDER OF EPILEPSIA?  :-X

...Konami truly runs out of original names for games.
Imagine going to a gamestore and saying:
"Excuse me, have you got Order of Ecclesia?
"WHAT?"
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: Kale on April 09, 2008, 03:07:29 PM
its like a bad translation of Iglesia >.> somethign to do with the church and it's involvement I say!
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on April 09, 2008, 03:15:00 PM
WHAT??

ORDER OF EPILEPSIA?
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Post by: PFG9000 on April 09, 2008, 03:44:21 PM
its like a bad translation of Iglesia >.> somethign to do with the church and it's involvement I say!

It's not a bad translation; ecclesia is a greek word for "gathering," there's even a book in the New Testament named Ecclesians.  Though it's possible iglesia is a cognate or derivate of ecclesia.
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Post by: Kale on April 09, 2008, 03:46:40 PM
maybe... or its a bad translation! >.> I wouldn't be too surprised.
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Post by: Profbeanburrito on April 09, 2008, 04:41:39 PM
I highly doubt they would mis-translate the title.
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Post by: Kale on April 09, 2008, 05:48:28 PM
They probably didn't, but theres always a chance...
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Post by: mgfcortez on April 10, 2008, 12:50:57 AM
yeah wasn't to happy with pork nether it was ok but its time to make new shit!
stop reusing the same sprite that were in SOTN,and make all new sprites.
if it looks too shity i'll download too because i got a r4 with a 1gb to fill:P
r4 is better than the rest btw so far ppl having problems loading game on the rest but r4 plays everything so far ;D
oh well hope its worth buy tho
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: Long John Silver on April 10, 2008, 04:31:07 AM
Order of Eclairs. :o

Even if the first thing I think of when saying Eclair is a character from La Pucelle. :(
Title: Re: Order of Ecclesia?
Post by: Abster on April 14, 2008, 03:21:57 PM
To follow up on this story, look at the ESRB's latest batch of ratings.  Order of Ecclesia is one of them, and we can confirm now that it IS the new DS title!  Ratings are only issued when a game is pretty close to being released, like with Ninja Gaiden 2 and MGS4 both slated for June releases.  However, the trend the last few years for CV games is to have them in the fall, so while the release date's still up in the air, it might be sooner than we think.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on April 14, 2008, 04:24:31 PM
OK guys, i went to ESRB site and i found this: Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc. T  Blood, Fantasy Violence Nintendo DS
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Post by: Profbeanburrito on April 14, 2008, 05:00:43 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it were shown off at E3 and released for the Fall. Since the Castlevania series is pretty big I'd expect it to be shown off rather than just releasing it out of the blue.
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Post by: Ciel on April 14, 2008, 05:45:29 PM
WHAT??

ORDER OF EPILEPSIA?
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Post by: thernz on April 14, 2008, 05:53:35 PM
In Reply To #42
But the English titles are always different from the Japanese ones. Why would they be translated? D:

Title: Re: Order Shmorder
Post by: Mobius on April 14, 2008, 07:43:55 PM
Gentlemen, for better or worse, we will be looking at CV: OoE sometime in the future. (sounds like see-vee gooey, come to think of it) So unless the U.S. fears releasing a title its simple-minded citizens may not comprehend, we better get used to it.

Heee... -Eclairs. ^_^
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Post by: DragonSlayr81 on April 14, 2008, 09:33:55 PM
I don't think it's that bad of a name. If you've been into as much RPGs as I have, that name doesn't sound too bad.
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Post by: bobby digital on April 14, 2008, 09:51:11 PM
Something interesting nobody's pointed out yet:

ESRB only rates games once they are finished...

Could we be seeing a summer release date for this?  A lot of heavy hitters in July so I don't think it'll be then, but August could be likely..
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Post by: Ed Oscuro on April 14, 2008, 10:32:35 PM
It has bluuuuuud!  Snapz.
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Post by: RichterX on April 14, 2008, 11:04:12 PM
Summer release date would be awesome, nice change since the past few years have been in the late fall.
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Post by: olroxshade on April 15, 2008, 12:44:34 AM
In Reply To #48

In fact...

http://gonintendo.com/?p=40168
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Post by: Slayer on April 15, 2008, 02:34:11 AM
To tell you all the truth, I haven't been unexcited about a new CastleVania game in, well...ever...
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Post by: Munchy on April 16, 2008, 02:20:51 AM
In Reply To #58

Same here, except when Order of Shadows was announced.