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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: DoctaMario on September 19, 2015, 04:13:51 PM
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-09-18-konami-ceases-triple-a-console-production-on-all-but-pes-report
Konami has ceased all triple-A console game production on everything but Pro Evolution Soccer and there are currently no plans for a big new Metal Gear game, while worldwide technology director Julien Merceron has left the company. That's according to a pair of reports on French site Gameblog. Eurogamer understands both reports to be true.
Problems at Konami were highlighted earlier in the year when Metal Gear creator Hideo Kojima left the company and his Kojima Productions studio was dissolved. He had reportedly fallen out with Konami's big bosses who refused to bankroll his long and lavish productions any longer. Metal Gear Solid 5 reportedly cost $80m to make. Any new Metal Gear Solid game Konami produces will presumably be made without Kojima involved.
Further problems at Konami were highlighted when respected financial Japanese newspaper Nikkei ran an article about a deteriorating company culture at Konami's game division. Employees "deemed useless" were apparently given menial and degrading tasks, and communication with outsiders was restricted and lunch breaks monitored.
What comes next for Konami, and for Kojima, we'll have to wait and see.
Mods feel free to move this if you don't think it's in the right section, but it IS kind of Castlevania related.
This seems to be the way a lot of the Japanese companies are going sadly, so I'm not surprised at this outcome. I wonder if we'll be getting any mobile CV games.
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I for one welcome our new pachislot overlords.
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We, the fans are the future of Castlevania now.
You know what? It's probably better off that way.
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We, the fans are the future of Castlevania now.
You know what? It's probably better off that way.
And I'd really like if Konami didn't even THINK about issuing a cease and desist to any of the fans creating fangames. They should be happy people are still giving damn about Castlevania at all, because if it depended on them, it'd be deader than Dracula after 1999.
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And I'd really like if Konami didn't even THINK about issuing a cease and desist to any of the fans creating fangames.
That's when we simply tell them to get up off their broken @$$'s and make the damned games themselves rather then worrying about how the fanbase is actually doing it better, and doing it right.
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We, the fans are the future of Castlevania now.
You know what? It's probably better off that way.
Are there any other projects in the works other than the one Piscesdreams is working on (which looks fantastic btw)
Still, it's sad news that we may not get another console CV game. :-\
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Are there any other projects in the works other than the one Piscesdreams is working on (which looks fantastic btw)
Still, it's sad news that we may not get another console CV game. :-\
We can finally give it some closure. Perhaps in a decade or two, someone will unearth the IP and give us a new Castlevania in whatever plane of existence we exist by then. :D
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Are there any other projects in the works other than the one Piscesdreams is working on (which looks fantastic btw)
Still, it's sad news that we may not get another console CV game. :-\
Yeah man! Castlevania the Lecarde Chronicles 2 by Mig Perez. I am creating the soundtrack for the game.
Check out the first preview.
There is a thread for it in the fan section of this forum of you would like to see more.
http://youtu.be/V0U8FYzUO0w (http://youtu.be/V0U8FYzUO0w)
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So many IP's put to an unfortunate rest. :'(
And I'd really like if Konami didn't even THINK about issuing a cease and desist to any of the fans creating fangames. They should be happy people are still giving damn about Castlevania at all, because if it depended on them, it'd be deader than Dracula after 1999.
You pretty much got the greenlight to do the1999 game at this point. Don't think Konami gives enough of a shit about the series to send out a C&D.
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Looks like it's finally coming to an end.
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And I'd really like if Konami didn't even THINK about issuing a cease and desist to any of the fans creating fangames. They should be happy people are still giving damn about Castlevania at all, because if it depended on them, it'd be deader than Dracula after 1999.
I'm totally with you on this one, but I don't know if I'm so optimistic. For example, remember when Konami issued a copyright complaint on Metal Gear Solid V fan art (http://ps4daily.com/2015/09/kojima-retweets-fan-made-mgs-5-pic-konami-files-copyright-claim/)? I'll be honest, I've never heard of a company doing that before. Sometimes it seems almost as if they're actively going out of their way to bully their own community. :-\
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These reports are not true, see the link below. Be sure to check the screencap of the Konami support email confirming this is all untrue.
http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/konami/cg (http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/konami/cg)
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At this moment in time I cannot trust what Konami says. They're a corporation and will make up excuses in order to save face. Or what's left of their face. Actions speak louder then words, and the only way to convince me they are telling the truth about what they say, is to make another console game.
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Yep. Ball's in Konami's court now. It is a bit unsettling that they haven't directly addressed the rumor. I think the longer it goes without them making a statement of some kind, the worse the situation will likely turn out to be.
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Yep. Ball's in Konami's court now. It is a bit unsettling that they haven't directly addressed the rumor. I think the longer it goes without them making a statement of some kind, the worse the situation will likely turn out to be.
Did you look at the screen of the email Konami sent that person who asked in the support ticket? It says right there that they already acknowledged this rumor back in May, why would they need to reply to it again? They cant let the "media" control them by forcing them to reply every time someone starts a rumor.
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And I'd really like if Konami didn't even THINK about issuing a cease and desist to any of the fans creating fangames. They should be happy people are still giving damn about Castlevania at all, because if it depended on them, it'd be deader than Dracula after 1999.
Konami wouldn't care about fan games, hell, they don't care about people selling CV1 hacks on NES carts. The only idiots who would do something that shitty is Nintendo, who has done that. They don't even care about Bloodstained, which is Iga's next CV in all but name.
And it's so shitty that corporations operate on a level the way they do. Morally they should love their IPs getting attention, but they're so focused on money because it's a business, hence, Erotic Violence and dropping the AAA game plan to move to mobile. They just don't understand that the mobile business model will bite them in the ass because casual consumers who download and buy DLC for these f2p shit piles only buy the ones that you see commercials for or the lucky successes like Flappy Bird and Angry Birds. They don't give a shit about CV, Contra, Bomberman, Sunset Riders, MGS, Gradius, or ANY franchise Konami owns (except for PES lol).
I think the gaming devision of Konami will close down soon, selling it's IPs, while the gambling scene of the company continues strong. It's sad but thats the problem with Japanese game devs like Sega and Nintendo: They're behind, still think it's the 90s, and do things involving modern day that they don't understand (Nintendo's YouTube bullshit, Sega's milking of Sonic (like other games like CoD and AC), and Konami moving to mobile). Japanese gaming companies just don't move with the times or do move with the times incorrectly. Rant done.
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These reports are not true, see the link below. Be sure to check the screencap of the Konami support email confirming this is all untrue.
http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/konami/cg (http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/konami/cg)
I was thinking about posting this. But I figured what's the point? It's not that I don't believe what they say but some reassuring news would be nice. Though I suppose we have to wait until E3 for that?
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I was thinking about posting this. But I figured what's the point? It's not that I don't believe what they say but some reassuring news would be nice. Though I suppose we have to wait until E3 for that?
What I find funny is that Castlevania Crypt seems to be one of the few sites saying that these rumors about Konami quitting console games are not true, and they also provided links to prove that. But then 99% of the other sites say that Konami is quitting console games, but provide no links to verify this story.
That is probably why Konami is not responding. They already did in May, there is no reason to respond again when these stupid news sites make up rumors and then everyone copies and pastes the story on their site.
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Did you look at the screen of the email Konami sent that person who asked in the support ticket? It says right there that they already acknowledged this rumor back in May, why would they need to reply to it again? They cant let the "media" control them by forcing them to reply every time someone starts a rumor.
So they should just sit by while all of these sites post the same story? Doesn't seem like it would help their reputation in the least.
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I want to see the actual email of the support ticket. Not just a copy paste of what was allegedly said.
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I want to see the actual email of the support ticket. Not just a copy paste of what was allegedly said.
I posted the link already that was on Castlevania Crypt. Here it is, the support ticket image is at the bottom of the page, it says
"You can view a screenshot of the entire Support Ticket right here."
http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/konami/cg (http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/konami/cg)
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So they should just sit by while all of these sites post the same story? Doesn't seem like it would help their reputation in the least.
They already responded to these same rumors in May, why should they respond again? Then when someone else starts the same rumors all over again in 2 months do they need to reply again in 2 months as well?
They don't need to respond to the same exact story every 3 months. These news sites just copy and paste each other and change the posting date to make you think it is a current story. There are news sites posting about this for the 1st time today acting like it is a breaking story when it has been around for days, and already confirmed to be false for days.
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I posted the link already that was on Castlevania Crypt. Here it is, the support ticket image is at the bottom of the page, it says
"You can view a screenshot of the entire Support Ticket right here."
http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/konami/cg (http://www.castlevaniacrypt.com/konami/cg)
Sorry, viewing on a mobile device is a pain in the ass and for some reason I didn't see the link.
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Even if the rumor isn't true, it doesn't change that Konami is dead.
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Even if the rumor isn't true, it doesn't change that Konami is dead.
If not dead financially, they're dead to me.
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They already responded to these same rumors in May, why should they respond again? Then when someone else starts the same rumors all over again in 2 months do they need to reply again in 2 months as well?
They don't need to respond to the same exact story every 3 months. These news sites just copy and paste each other and change the posting date to make you think it is a current story. There are news sites posting about this for the 1st time today acting like it is a breaking story when it has been around for days, and already confirmed to be false for days.
All I'm saying is that (assuming they're not full of it) I think it would do Konami better to reassure people that they haven't dropped console gaming. I know they've already talked about it a while back, (and the support ticket for that guy or whatever) but the explosion of this new rumor is convincing people otherwise. Everyone's just assuming it's true, just like you said.
Their reputation has taken an absolute beating. Honestly, I don't know if I even believe them when they say they're still in the console games market. I really don't put anything past them at this point.
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Well, if they were truly out of it you'd think they would have no reason to care what the fans think about it.
Something doesn't add up.
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RIP Konami. You were one of the best. I'll miss the old you.
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If not dead financially, they're dead to me.
Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
I don't give two shits about their money, I'm not really their shareholder.
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All we can hope for is that Iga buys out the series, but then again I can see them treating it like a cash cow how the LoS series was. I mean, I loved the first one, liked mirror of fate, LoS2...meh, but the first was the best selling CV game to date, so rest assured we'll be ready to be disappointed when the next "CV" title gets flushed down the drain too....sigh...we miss you Castlevania!!!
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I guess until we see something no one is sure what to believe.
I sure as shit hope the next Castlevania isn't a mobile title though.
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I guess until we see something no one is sure what to believe.
I sure as shit hope the next Castlevania isn't a mobile title though.
I don't know how Castlevania would even work on mobile. The only thing I can think of is a simple hack-'n-slash game without pretty much any kind off platforming, like that clone game Castle of Shadows. Either that or they will only pump out Encore of the Night games from now on. Both are susceptible to a micro transaction model, so Konami would probably be all over that.
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They'll probably copy another mobile IP that is doing pretty well and slap the Castlevania name on it.
Mobile gaming has yet to show me something that is truly innovative or creative, it's just all one big shit heap of imitations and terrible F2P pay models. It's a perverted take on the business of entertainment and games.
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I hope that link that got posted turns out to be true and that Konami isn't giving up on consoles. Still, it's hard not to notice that they aren't the company they were even in the PS2 era. I also think it's misguided of them to think pushing mobile will save them, though I think a lot Japanese companies have really dropped the ball and think they're still operating in the 90's which is why some of them are having so much trouble these days.
Still, I'd like to see a mobile CV game (an adventure one). I wonder if it would be something like the DS games.
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I think a mobile cv if it's a classicvania style game or at least 2d or 2.5d would be great.
I replayed legends on my gameboy emulator on iPhone and the simple touch controls worked great. It was fine.
And mobile doesn't mean limited to phones or touch controls.
I'm an Apple TV owner. The new one that comes out this October will feature the App Store games. Sync a Bluetooth control and you've got an apple video game console. They're sneaking there way in through the back door to the living room gaming market and I predict it will be a game changer. It will be a $150 video game console, TV box, and iTunes Player.
It will basically make mobile and home console symbiotic. At least with Apple.
Perhaps Konami has more insight than some of us would like to think they do.
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All these mentions of Mobile and all i can think of is
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette3.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fcastlevania%2Fimages%2F2%2F21%2FOrder_of_Shadows.gif%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20140606124314&hash=2c9121c16d8721898a8d18d7389f47bb13000976)
Yea..... :P
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All these mentions of Mobile and all i can think of is
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette3.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fcastlevania%2Fimages%2F2%2F21%2FOrder_of_Shadows.gif%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20140606124314&hash=2c9121c16d8721898a8d18d7389f47bb13000976)
Yea..... :P
What's Abyssion from Tales of Symphonia doing in a Castlevania game?
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All these mentions of Mobile and all i can think of is
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fvignette3.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fcastlevania%2Fimages%2F2%2F21%2FOrder_of_Shadows.gif%2Frevision%2Flatest%3Fcb%3D20140606124314&hash=2c9121c16d8721898a8d18d7389f47bb13000976)
Yea..... :P
"Mobile" is a lot different now than it was when OoS came out. It wasn't a bad game for its time.
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"Mobile" is a lot different now than it was when OoS came out. It wasn't a bad game for its time.
yea well like i said its the first thing that comes to mind.
Back then, we didn't game on phones as much as now either so it could be why it didn't take well. Thankfully there is emulation nowadays ;)
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how about a "platformwr on rails" for mobile? when you get close to the enemy, shake your phone to make Simon whip.
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how about a "platformwr on rails" for mobile? when you get close to the enemy, shake your phone to make Simon whip.
Hahaha. It could work. But it is just too awkward to play in public. "oops... bye phone...."
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So nobody cares that one of the biggest mobile App Stores on the planet is coming to the tv in the living room with Bluetooth controllers and all?
Am I seriously the only one who has anything to say about the line between mobile and console blurring? Apple TV is about to change the landscape for $150.
Yet when we discuss mobile all you guys can think of is touch controls and gimmicks...
Who knows what konami is thinking with focusing on mobile right now. Maybe they know that the console gaming market is about to be ambushed by what we call mobile games ATM.
I really think we need to change the way we think about how we game because the mobile gaming market and console are about to collide. I think big game devs are already thinking about this a lot and that's why Konami's behavior could mean something different than what we think it does. Maybe not, but you never know.
Konami moving away from big budget AAA titles means they could be planning on making more simple games on the mobile and soon to mobile console market. This could be good news for classic style Castlevania fans.
Of course it's anyone's guess at this point but I think my point is worthy of at least a shred of optimism.
ouya aimed big to change the market, and while their system failed it gave us a little peek into a different kind of gaming console. Apple has been successful in completely changing industries like how we consume and listen to music. If anyone can change how we game, it's them.
It's worth thinking about.
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Doing some more reading about it and I guess the games are required to be compatible with the Siri remote which could be limiting. So we'll have to see how that goes...
I guess I'm being overly optimistic... ????
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Pachislot on Apple TV... why not? There are slot machine games on the apple store.