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Title: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: VladCT on December 05, 2015, 06:13:43 PM
Surprise, surprise, gameplay looks closer to XV. Also, has Cloud always been this lanky?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Dracula9 on December 05, 2015, 07:07:40 PM
Yes. SOLDIERs more or less stop aging once they have the Mako injection, and Cloud had his (and then some) at 16.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Aridale on December 05, 2015, 08:05:23 PM
my only questions are: When? And is it comin to PC too?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: X on December 05, 2015, 09:40:05 PM
That does look catchy despite my lack of interest in FF VII.
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my only questions are: When? And is it comin to PC too?
I wouldn't bother with the PC version personally. Chances are they're going to pull the same shit they did with the PC fallout 4. In other words the entire game will not be on disc and you would need to download the rest of the game off Steam. That, and you will most likely need the steam app to run the game like with Fallout 4, Skyrim, etc. And that's because PCs don't yet utilize Blu ray. There's only so much that you can put on a DVD disc compared to how much more you can put on a Blu ray DVD disc.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: darkmanx_429 on December 06, 2015, 08:20:30 AM
I like the fact that they are being faithful to the original gameplay from the PSX while trying to incorporate more modern gameplay elements from FF15.
I liked Advent Children, I thought it was an awesome movie, but this art style even though it shares similarities with AC does remind me of basically an modern version of the original PSX game. Maybe it's the color palette.
I just hope that they keep all the secrets and optional quests from the original game. That was one thing that always bothered me about the later games as they became too cinematic and linear and basically when you finished the game that was it.
You basically played through an experience and not an actual game. (If that makes sense.)
All we need now is a remake of my favorite game in the series, FF8.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: shelverton. on December 06, 2015, 09:34:37 AM
I really like what I'm seeing. I was never a big fan of the original so I'm glad they're doing something different with the remake. I especially like how the camera seems to be following Cloud from behind when he's running. The pre-rendered backgrounds in FF7 weren't my cup of tea at all. Some of it looked really muddy, especially after getting used to the cleaner graphics of the SNES era.
That new battle system is gonna disappoint sooo many FF7 fans though. I think it looks pretty great!
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Aridale on December 06, 2015, 11:38:23 AM
That does look catchy despite my lack of interest in FF VII.
I wouldn't bother with the PC version personally. Chances are they're going to pull the same shit they did with the PC fallout 4. In other words the entire game will not be on disc and you would need to download the rest of the game off Steam. That, and you will most likely need the steam app to run the game like with Fallout 4, Skyrim, etc. And that's because PCs don't yet utilize Blu ray. There's only so much that you can put on a DVD disc compared to how much more you can put on a Blu ray DVD disc.
Dude... steam is the only way I play games on PC lol I havent physically bought a game for pc in prolly 10-12 years
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: KaZudra on December 06, 2015, 02:44:37 PM
This needs to be on PC along with FFXV, why should the players be subjected to such frame-drops? Either develop for the damn hardware in mind or put it on hardware the can handle the damn game, it's 2015, console wars are now a laughing joke. Shit, it's not hard to make a game both visually stunning and run smoothly, Croteam and Nintendo has been doing this for decades.
But as I digress from my current gen console rant, this remake is either going to be loved or hated, I'm personally not liking how blank Cloud is, he's basically a cockier Zack at this point, give him a damn personality. And Barret's redesign made me laugh, loose the shades, it looks bad.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Dracula9 on December 06, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
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I just hope that they keep all the secrets and optional quests from the original game. That was one thing that always bothered me about the later games as they became too cinematic and linear and basically when you finished the game that was it.
Despite Squeenix having shown themselves to be full of shit on more than one occasion, I'd like to think that they at least know their playerbase and the amount of nostalgia attached to FFVII, and retain as much as they're able to (by this I mean certain things like Mukki the gay bodybuilder probably will be changed simply due to the more PC world we live in now).
Because, simply put, if they fucked this up too badly, it would in all likelihood cause their reputation serious damage.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Belmontoya on December 06, 2015, 03:52:12 PM
This looks great!
I'm so glad that it's going to be an action RPG. I've never been a big fan turn based combat.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: darkmanx_429 on December 06, 2015, 04:27:57 PM
Despite Squeenix having shown themselves to be full of shit on more than one occasion, I'd like to think that they at least know their playerbase and the amount of nostalgia attached to FFVII, and retain as much as they're able to (by this I mean certain things like Mukki the gay bodybuilder probably will be changed simply due to the more PC world we live in now).
Because, simply put, if they fucked this up too badly, it would in all likelihood cause their reputation serious damage.
They already mentioned that the famous cross-dressing scene is in.
I am interested on how they are going to tackle this though.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: zangetsu468 on December 06, 2015, 06:13:45 PM
Re: Cloud's appearance, he's much younger in this game than in AC. I was hoping for more of AC's character designs to be put into this game, but Barret's model states otherwise.
I'm calling they're using the XV engine again (why wouldn't they) and the gameplay looks decent.
Midgar looks dark and grimy, just as I remembered it.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Dracula9 on December 06, 2015, 06:32:37 PM
AC only takes place two years after the game, though, which puts him at 21. Granted, we can be realistic and assume the entire journey of the game took place over, say several months (let's be generous and say 6-8), which might put him at 20 at the very beginning of it. But either way, two years isn't a huge gap.
Also, apparently the game may be episodic. http://kotaku.com/sounds-like-the-final-fantasy-vii-remake-will-be-episod-1746564216 (http://kotaku.com/sounds-like-the-final-fantasy-vii-remake-will-be-episod-1746564216)
It might work, but I have to be skeptical. Hopefully they don't fuck this up.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Inccubus on December 06, 2015, 06:39:13 PM
That new battle system is gonna disappoint sooo many FF7 fans though.
Yeap. That's me. I will always prefer RPG battles to have a more strategic focus over action. I've heard the game play in the trailer compared to Kingdom Hearts. I want a remake of FF7, not Kingdom Hearts. The battle system could have been improved and the animations made more dynamic without switching the basic nature of it. And, yes, I know I can still play the original, but then that defeats the purpose of having a remake as much as changing the basic battle system does. Also, yes, I know that at the end of the day it won't matter as much as long as the game play is fun. I'm saying it looks less fun to me than a traditional turn based system. Lastly, no, I'm not much of a fan of Kingdom Hearts' game play.
Bleh. I'd rather have whole games in general... unless there will be 4 episodes mirroring the 4 discs used of the original, that would be kinda clever.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: zangetsu468 on December 06, 2015, 06:44:28 PM
AC only takes place two years after the game, though, which puts him at 21. Granted, we can be realistic and assume the entire journey of the game took place over, say several months (let's be generous and say 6-8), which might put him at 20 at the very beginning of it. But either way, two years isn't a huge gap.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was sure at around Disc 3 of FFVII, Cloud strays from the group and 7 years pass? (or is it 3 years) I was sure there were a number of years that pass in FFVII itself.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Inccubus on December 06, 2015, 06:57:08 PM
No years as far as I know and from what I read on the wikia. He does get separated and is found at Mideel suffering from Mako poisoning and Tifa stays behind to take care of him. But I don't think more than a couple of weeks go by max.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: zangetsu468 on December 06, 2015, 07:14:50 PM
No years as far as I know and from what I read on the wikia. He does get separated and is found at Mideel suffering from Mako poisoning and Tifa stays behind to take care of him. But I don't think more than a couple of weeks go by max.
Maybe I'm thinking of Crisis Core taking place approximately 7 years before. Or maybe there was a flash back during FFVII that was some number of years before.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Dracula9 on December 06, 2015, 07:51:24 PM
The FFVII universe uses an odd year-numbering system with four numerical places, so I'll be using that for the following.
Cloud is fifteen when Crisis Core starts (0001), and the Nibelheim incident happens a little over a year later (0002). He and Zack are kept by Hojo for four years before they escape (0006). They remain on the run for a year before Zack is killed outside Midgar (0007). Cloud, now 21, goes straight to Midgar after this. Tifa finds him delirious at the train station, and his false memories become coherent upon seeing her and he "becomes" who he is at the start of FFVII. She persuades him to join AVALANCHE, but is really only doing so to keep an eye on him, as she'd noticed he was acting strangely.
AC takes place two years after the original game (0009), putting Cloud at 23.
It is a bit tough to figure out Cloud's age and the relevant information, given his conflicting backstories. Hopefully, though, this clears things up.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: zangetsu468 on December 06, 2015, 09:15:00 PM
Tifa finds him delirious at the train station, and his false memories become coherent upon seeing her and he "becomes" who he is at the start of FFVII.
She persuades him to join AVALANCHE, but is really only doing so to keep an eye on him, as she'd noticed he was acting strangely.[/quote]
This is the part I was thinking of. Obviously not 7 years prior to FFVII. Cheers for that.
It is a bit tough to figure out Cloud's age and the relevant information, given his conflicting backstories. Hopefully, though, this clears things up.
And people wonder why he isn't Barret's build. He's still relatively young in FFVII.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on December 07, 2015, 12:29:33 AM
First thing in mind after watching the trailer. "Oh, Kingdom Hearts refurbished as FF7.... Where the hell is KH3!?!" I'm still looking forward for XV than 7 since the 7's story won't be changed, and we all know what happens.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: zangetsu468 on December 07, 2015, 02:22:57 AM
First thing in mind after watching the trailer. "Oh, Kingdom Hearts refurbished as FF7.... Where the hell is KH3!?!" I'm still looking forward for XV than 7 since the 7's story won't be changed, and we all know what happens.
I disagree in part. If you watch the FFVII anime and play Crisis Core, not all the events of Nibelheim and such match up perfectly. I am almost certain there will be some kind of option to incorporate a playable Aerith and I believe certain events/ their sequence will be altered to suit the style of gameplay and the game's flow. Will the overarcing canon be changed? No you're correct in that sense.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: VladCT on December 07, 2015, 02:55:33 AM
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/12/07/final-fantasy-vii-remake-details-on-its-action-midgar-exploration-and-cross-dressing/ (http://www.siliconera.com/2015/12/07/final-fantasy-vii-remake-details-on-its-action-midgar-exploration-and-cross-dressing/) More details on the remake. And yes, they're literally going with "Final Fantasy VII Remake".
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: zangetsu468 on December 07, 2015, 04:16:26 AM
Edit: Sorry I meant *don't match up perfectly
I blame input lag 8)
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: X on December 07, 2015, 09:41:51 AM
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Also, apparently the game may be episodic.
I woudn't worry about this too much. They did the same thing with RE: Revelations 2, but later on, released the entire game on disc.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Inccubus on December 08, 2015, 12:36:18 AM
First thing in mind after watching the trailer. "Oh, Kingdom Hearts refurbished as FF7.... Where the hell is KH3!?!" I'm still looking forward for XV than 7 since the 7's story won't be changed, and we all know what happens.
Yeah. I said the same thing to my best friend. Only I'm the one blasphemous bastard that never liked or got into Kingdom Hearts. Also, I find the cast of XV to be so atrociously bland that I don't think there will be an way for me to enjoy the game. Plus once again the game play is so far removed from the Final Fantasy I grew up with that it kills my interest. Yes, I'm that curmudgeon that sees the Final Fantasy series as having ended with 4 Warriors and continued on as Bravely Default. The rest of the series, to me, are spin-offs masquerading as the main series.
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Post by: Dracula9 on December 08, 2015, 12:57:41 AM
You're not the only one, I could never really get into KH either. It's got some interesting concepts and some great music, but the only one I really played was the GBA one and none of the rest interested me.
Plus, dear god the amount of teen/preteen angst is just too much for me.
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And people wonder why he isn't Barret's build. He's still relatively young in FFVII.
Well, yeah. Barret's got 13 years and a shitload more combat experience on him. Cloud never really did any serious fighting until the game started.
But the Mako-injection thing is still the primary reason. It's suggested that SOLDIERs don't age normally because of the Jenova cells within their bodies; since Cloud got his as such a young age, that was the physical age his body retained.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on December 08, 2015, 01:39:34 AM
I disagree in part. If you watch the FFVII anime and play Crisis Core, not all the events of Nibelheim and such match up perfectly. I am almost certain there will be some kind of option to incorporate a playable Aerith and I believe certain events/ their sequence will be altered to suit the style of gameplay and the game's flow. Will the overarcing canon be changed? No you're correct in that sense.
I was talking about the overaching canon. And yes, some events don't match up but the same can be said for history. haha. Nooo.. Let Aerith die. It's better that way.
Yeah. I said the same thing to my best friend. Only I'm the one blasphemous bastard that never liked or got into Kingdom Hearts. Also, I find the cast of XV to be so atrociously bland that I don't think there will be an way for me to enjoy the game. Plus once again the game play is so far removed from the Final Fantasy I grew up with that it kills my interest. Yes, I'm that curmudgeon that sees the Final Fantasy series as having ended with 4 Warriors and continued on as Bravely Default. The rest of the series, to me, are spin-offs masquerading as the main series.
Yup. Not everyone likes KH. I liked KH but the plot baggage just gets bigger with each installment that it becomes hard to remember everything. Still, I liked the keyblade designs. As for XV, I'm just intrigued by the plot.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Inccubus on December 08, 2015, 03:21:44 AM
I heard that the guys in charge of this did an interview with Famitsu. The one thing that gives me a glimmer of hope is that they said that the battle system is a lot less action oriented than people think and that it is very much still an ATB system. Can anyone verify?
If this is the case it sounds a little bit more like Star Ocean or even Xenoblade Chronicles. And that wouldn't be so bad.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: VladCT on December 08, 2015, 03:56:50 AM
I heard that the guys in charge of this did an interview with Famitsu. The one thing that gives me a glimmer of hope is that they said that the battle system is a lot less action oriented than people think and that it is very much still an ATB system. Can anyone verify?
If this is the case it sounds a little bit more like Star Ocean or even Xenoblade Chronicles. And that wouldn't be so bad.
Well, if this is the interview in question: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201512/07094721.html (http://www.famitsu.com/news/201512/07094721.html) Shiroi-san, if you please?
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Dracula9 on December 08, 2015, 01:32:39 PM
Y'know, despite my skepticism for the time being, I have to say that this has really invigorated my love and nostalgia for the game. I'd very nearly broken my annual-playthrough tradition, and would have if not for the timing of the remake's announcement.
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on December 08, 2015, 11:33:01 PM
Well, if this is the interview in question: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201512/07094721.html (http://www.famitsu.com/news/201512/07094721.html) Shiroi-san, if you please?
Skipped a lot until the question on ATB. There is an ATB gauge but attacks don't have to wait until the gauge is full, this is where the action style of gameplay is connected to. They called the new system ATB but it is not the ATB that fans were used to. The more important part to look out for is when the gauge turns red...
Title: Re: Final Fantasy VII Remake Playstation Experience 2015 Trailer
Post by: Inccubus on December 08, 2015, 11:38:38 PM