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Title: Germain and Leon
Post by: Marto on September 24, 2007, 03:31:57 PM
Iga has a habit of characters with either very important pasts of presents left unattended to. We already all have the wondering thought," In curse of darkness, shouldn't we have seen at least something regarding Sypha Belnades, or Grant Dinasti?" But most of all the things that make me wonder are?

So what about Germain? I know, I'm questioning way before I should, and perhaps it'll get covered, but can someone give me speculations on where you think he might pop up again? And similar as him, do you think Iga will ever introduce Leon in another Castlevania? It'd be a shame not to. That, or at least a Dracula that someone recognizes as a Matthias, therefore hinting to the origin of the whole deal.


Still, all ideas are welcome, just be courteous in your post. Too much bitching and insulting around here. :-X
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: DarkLavos on September 24, 2007, 03:51:06 PM
I think that if we see st.Germain again it will be in the 1999 battle.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: crisis on September 24, 2007, 03:58:06 PM
Maybe he'll show up in the new DS game?
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: Rugal on September 24, 2007, 03:59:38 PM
Maybe he'll show up in the new DS game?

That'd be cool, Leon is my favorite Belmont.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: le052383 on September 24, 2007, 04:14:22 PM
What if Germain is an older version of Leon, who happened to discover time travel?  LMAO
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: Azmodan on September 24, 2007, 04:31:52 PM
Eh. St. Germaine will probably be back.

In curse of darkness, shouldn't we have seen at least something regarding Sypha Belnades, or Grant Dinasti?"

In the CoD manga Ayami Kojima provided, you do see at least the silhouettes of Grant, Sypha and Alucard with Trevor. It isn't much, but still...
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: AlexCalvo on September 24, 2007, 04:52:52 PM
Grant has no connection to the Belmont's or Dracula's castle.  He was just a warrior fighting the bad guy.  His only real connection would be that he knows Trevor.  IGA stated in an interview that Grant would be helping the people of Wallachia rebuild all that was destroyed during the war.  Likewise Sypha was probably at home tending to a lil Belmont baby.  In that time period you had kids very very shortly after marriage.

St. Germain... I loved this character, but it will be completely ruined if he is never used again.  If he does not pay a big part in at least the 1999 battle I will be very disapointed.

Leon... He was kind of referenced in PoR wit the greatest 5 attack (the lack of Christopher really pissed me off).  And in the Castlevania comic book miniseries you see a statue of who is obviously Leon in the Belmont tomb.  I do hope to see him in some way, referenced of course, in the 1999 battle.  Or in the Castlevania animated movie, as it chronicles the chapter right after LoI.

In DoS there is a portrait of Dracula, obviously modeled after Mathias's character design in LoI.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: crisis on September 24, 2007, 07:06:01 PM
Quote from: Jerkofwonder
And in the Castlevania comic book miniseries you see a statue of who is obviously Leon in the Belmont tomb.

Sounds cool.. have any scans of that?

I wonder by 1999 if Dracula still even remembers Leon.. he seems to be going senile nowadays  :'(
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: AlexCalvo on September 24, 2007, 07:39:48 PM
In Reply To #8
I don't have it here right now...  But I can post up a scan tomorrow.  It also has paintings that are tributes to the cover art of Cv1 and 3... even though Simon is 100 years after Christopher...
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: Profbeanburrito on September 24, 2007, 07:59:05 PM
I guess it's kind of cheesy, but I think that Saint Germaine is some sort of angel or some kind of holy being there to keep Death in check. I guess sort of to balance things out, the Holy counterpart to Death perhaps. He is supposed to be a Saint after all and he is pretty much following Death around the whole time.

As for Leon, I don't really know what else he would do. Maybe just go around hunting more demons and vampires? Maybe if they did a game with his son or grandson or something and he trained them with using the vampire killer. But I don't think he should be used as the main character again, as much as I like him.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: AlexCalvo on September 24, 2007, 08:13:50 PM
In Reply To #10
Saint Germian is a time traveler.  We already know this.  I'm guessing that something will happen in the 1999 games that will require him to go through the timeline for one of two reasons...

1.  Dracula messes with the past some how to make himself stronger.  And Germain has to go "fix" everything.

2.  (and I like this idea better) Germain is sent to view some of the past defeats of Dracula to see some way of destroying him once and for all.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: Sindra on September 24, 2007, 09:00:49 PM
In my opinion and from what I gather, Germaine is a time traveler who either participated in or knows about the Battle of 1999, and either went back in time to learn how to defeat Dracula better or gain insight, or to prevent a possible catastrophe that could have messed up the Battle of 1999 in horrible ways. (encouragement to Hector perhaps?)

He's modern, you can tell. My guess is a scientist of some sort who may or may not be affiliated with the church near 1999.

Leon I don't think could fit anywhere else in the timeline, except for flashbacks or tributes. He's the progenitor of the Belmont line...let's leave it at that.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: S10nett on September 25, 2007, 08:43:27 AM
Alot of interesting ideals here. I liked Germain too, he added a sense of, dog somethings not right with you being here. And the fight with him was cool to.

But, do you think maybe Saint Germain may infact turn out to be a evil character just because, who can time travel? Could time travel be considered part of the arcane arts? And maybe, with no one keeping tabs ON his travels he's going back through time himself gaining information on how to build his own dark army and infact spying out who might be a threat to him: namely the Belmonts.

Or hey, maybe Germains trying to get his hands on the Ebony and Philosophers stone? Hm.


Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: AlexCalvo on September 25, 2007, 09:47:20 AM
In Reply To #12
Hey!  You said the same thing as me... Face it sindra... It's just meant to be... <3
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: AlexCalvo on September 25, 2007, 09:48:25 AM
In Reply To #13
I doubt he'll be evil...  He reminds me of a Disney character.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: crisis on September 25, 2007, 02:27:36 PM
In Reply To #13
Sounds like a good fanfic story.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: Marto on September 25, 2007, 03:17:18 PM
Wait, so someone mentioned that in Dawn of Sorrow there is a portrait of Matthias. Can someone tell me its whereabouts, because I would adore to check it out.

Also, Azmodan, thanks for mentioning the appearance of Grand and Sypha in the CoD thing, because I didn't know about that at all.

I say germain would probably be someone who could be in league with Genya in the future. At least it looks like those who would share a pretty similar goal - stop dracula, piss the hell out of Death, and aid the heroes.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: crisis on September 25, 2007, 03:56:40 PM
To see the Mathias portrait you need to unlock Julius mode (consult gamefaqs if you don't know how). Once you get through the castle as either J, Yoko, or Alucard, you'll see the painting in the final battle. Have fun!
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: Sindra on September 25, 2007, 08:47:35 PM
In Reply To #12
Hey!  You said the same thing as me... Face it sindra... It's just meant to be... <3


Whatever.

I mean to touch upon my interpretation of Germaine's story a little bit in my proposed Castlevania webcomic that I plan on doing.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: AlexCalvo on September 27, 2007, 04:31:11 PM
Sorry I took so long, here's the pic.

Leon statue in the Belmont tomb from the comic book "Castlevania: The Belmont Legacy".

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv181%2FJerkofwonder%2Fleon.jpg&hash=f33c465230e0171f89dd6dc77246308b)
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: crisis on September 27, 2007, 04:44:41 PM
That sure is Leon alright! But who's the other one?
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: AlexCalvo on September 27, 2007, 04:54:17 PM
In Reply To #21
I'm gonna guess Trevor?  He is the only other Belmont before Christopher to fight Dracula.  But who knows... Maybe a Belmont who killed some other Demon or Vampire.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: Acunia on September 27, 2007, 04:55:10 PM
In Reply To #21

ehem, look at the shoulder :)... um wait a minute!? yeah who is that xP
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: TheCruelAngel on September 27, 2007, 05:00:40 PM
Leon could easily still star in another Castlevania game, granted it'd probably be some off sequel-esque game about Leon still chasing down Mathias, running into more vampires, etc.

I'd love for Leon to have more game time as the founder of the Belmont kill vampire and evil clan, I think there's still more room for him to explore into fighting vampires and getting a name for his clan of ass kicking children.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on September 27, 2007, 06:23:49 PM
STrange enough, in the Belmont Legacy comic, in the Belmont Tomb, there's also a painting/scupture piece of Simon Belmont(it's basically the cover of the original Castlevania for the NES), and, uh, Simon wasn't born until AFTER Christopher.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: AlexCalvo on September 27, 2007, 06:24:47 PM
In Reply To #23
If you're trying to say it's Simon this story took place 100 years before Simon fought Dr. Acula.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: Acunia on September 27, 2007, 06:29:48 PM
In Reply To #26

eh.. that would be the "um wait a minute!?" part

geh, guys i wasn't beeing serious...
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: AlexCalvo on September 27, 2007, 06:32:51 PM
In Reply To #25
Don't forget there is another painting for the cover of Cv3.  I'll post it up in a little.

*edit*
Here you go...
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv181%2FJerkofwonder%2Fpaintings.jpg&hash=b3f1d859e1fb727d7558a5a30e4e6676)
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: Acunia on September 27, 2007, 06:58:15 PM
what the hell, hehehe, the artist weant a lil wack with that last one
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Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: AlexCalvo on September 27, 2007, 07:01:27 PM
In Reply To #29
Um... how so?  There look like old paintings.  Like they should.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: Aridale on September 27, 2007, 07:04:10 PM
In Reply To #26

Dr. Acula! Fuck yeah! Scrubs is the shit =D
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: Acunia on September 27, 2007, 07:06:48 PM
In Reply To #30

um yeah that "old paintings", ever seen the CV1 box art?
anyway nvm...
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: AlexCalvo on September 27, 2007, 07:18:44 PM
In Reply To #31
You sir have just been added to my hug schedule.  ;D
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: crisis on September 27, 2007, 10:34:00 PM
I guess there won't be anymore isuues for the comic, huh? Like, covering the other time eras?
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: AlexCalvo on September 28, 2007, 08:33:41 AM
In Reply To #34
It was always intended to be a 5 part mini-series.  I'm not sure how well it sold.  I know it did good at first... but the comic itself was pretty bad.  If it did sell well we will probably see another min series eventually... IDW had made several for MGS and SH.
Title: Re: Germain and Leon
Post by: Kamirine on September 28, 2007, 10:19:49 AM
In Reply To #32

. . .Wait, what was your point exactly? Cause that made no sense.  Yeah, it is like the original Castlevania cover: I think this might have been the point. So erm, what was yours again?