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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: affinity on October 06, 2016, 05:52:14 PM
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My favorite Castlevania ever!! and IGA's last Castlevania game when they were with Konami. Shutaro Iida deserves more fame and praise as well, being the director of CVHD:
IGA video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8b6To-Nsnw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8b6To-Nsnw)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlevania:_Harmony_of_Despair (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlevania:_Harmony_of_Despair)
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/08/30/playstation-now-september-update-pc-streaming-6-greatest-hits/ (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/08/30/playstation-now-september-update-pc-streaming-6-greatest-hits/)
first impressions after about 3 hours of playing on PS4
1. it looks AWESOME. Of course, it's the authentic PS3 version, and the new TV helps. back then I used to play CVHD on a 480p. then when I got a PS4, I got a new TV, so playing it in HD looks worlds better.
2. PS+ is not required to play online!! I subscribed to psnow using a account that doesn't have PS+ and still playable! I purchased sub with PSN wallet/ps store card.
3. PSNow seems universal on the same console. I was able to stream the game on a different account than the original PSN ID I subscribed ps now to. So it's not like PS+ server that's tied to a specific account.
4. PS4 Castlevania HD games can play with PS3 gamers!! I teamed up with a Maria player, so that confirms PS4 Now version uses the PS3 servers, which is great and this can help expand the people you can meet online. Of course, if you are new, be sure to learn some of the etiquette so people don't wait too long to start.
5. the netcode is just as solid as it is on X360 and PS3. I played with up to 4 players online, and out of the 3 hours I played it, there was only one connection lag issue (but it must of been a ps now issue), but it fixed in less than a minute. playing with Japanese and French players, no noticable lag from them at all. Of course it can vary, but CVHD always had above average netcode.
6. it's just as entertaining as it was back in 2010 :) even starting from scratch and other players moving faster than me, the ones I teamed up with were SO NICE, and emote active and friendly :) we even got some dual crushes going (usually the Here emote is a good signal to get someone to move into Dual Crush position, well the quick learner noticed and teamed up each time).
7. the soundtrack is masterful as always. I just beat the 7 chapters on normal and then on hard. I played with people in USA, Japan and France. :)
it's such a shame this didn't sell as much as it should have, we could have gotten a new series of Castlevania with this gameplay format, expanding the character selection, loot, bestiary, chapters, music and more! though yea at least this masterpiece was made and now playable on PS4. :)
NOTICE: I don't recommend playing it on psnnow if you already have a setup to play it on PS3. this is for those that don't have PS3, or too lazy to pull PS3 out of the closet and rewire things. I'm not an advocate for PS Now, however, considering CVHD is my favorite Castlevania ever, and it's now playable on PS4 thanks to PSNow, this is the closest to owning and playing CVHD on PS4 instead of waiting for Konami to port/remaster it fully on PS4.
the recent 3 hours of playing it on PS4 were the greatest Castlevania gaming and co op moments this year so far. :)
the only downsides are:
* no addon support (of course it streams the core game, they have to either merge the stores, or remaster CVHD with all the DLC included if people expect the addons to be usable on PS4.)
*can't take screenshots nor record video on Share.
*dependency on online to play the single player/local content.
but if fans can look past those things, they can enjoy CVHD on PS4 just as much as on X360 and PS3.
being able to play with PS3 gamers is a HUGE plus. if more fans are aware of it and ok with subbibg to ps now for it, the online community could be rejuvenated with the PS4 community playing CVHD online alongside PS3 fans.
time for a CVHD art parade. castlevaniadungeon really should dedicate a Harmony of Despair section to the game. back then in 2010, it's strange how the site was so biased words this masterpiece of masterpieces, yet LoS got the red carpet treatment of hype. it's so unfair when CVHD is a worthy Castlevania game, and the ultimate multiplayer Castlevania game. Well of course Serio's Castlevania Fighter is another co op masterpiece, though CVHD's formula and 6 players co op is one of a kind. if they made a game that combined SCF and CVHD and expanded it further, they could have a new mainstream series that keeps improving. those two masterpieces can really learn from each other.
Ah well, despite the situation with Konami, it's magnificent that these games exist. ^.^
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Sounds like a good news
If they support map edit mode (aka only my map) in the PS4 version it would be much cooler then I assume core fans can finally realize their dream building their own Castlevania by using official map samples
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Sounds like a good news
If they support map edit mode (aka only my map) in the PS4 version it would be much cooler then I assume core fans can finally realize their dream building their own Castlevania by using official map samples
It's not an actual PS4 version. It's just the PS3 version streamed through PS Now. If they actually ported it, a map edit mode would have been wonderful, even if it were just something like deciding enemy and item placement.
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Good I guess. But no add-on support sucks. It's no replacement for PS3 version then. Alot of items are exclusive to those levels.
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No DLC?
Looks like I'm still gonna wait for Xbox ONE BC.
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I still want that artwork
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It's not an actual PS4 version. It's just the PS3 version streamed through PS Now. If they actually ported it, a map edit mode would have been wonderful, even if it were just something like deciding enemy and item placement.
What a shame. I kinda wish there would be a new revision of it
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Does this mean there are people playing the game online again? I don't have a PS4 yet, but I'd love to put some more hours into Harmony of Despair.
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If this game uses the PS3 servers, I can always boot up on PS3 and help some Dunegonites out.
I'm endofline_l51
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How much would it cost them to get some interns to make new DLC content for a game like this and sell it? I know nothing about game development, but once you have templates for 10 levels, how hard is it to make more? The bosses are mainly the unique part of each stage.
I spent a lot of time playing CVHD - Richter - even got one miser ring. I want more levels!
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How much would it cost them to get some interns to make new DLC content for a game like this and sell it? I know nothing about game development, but once you have templates for 10 levels, how hard is it to make more? The bosses are mainly the unique part of each stage.
I spent a lot of time playing CVHD - Richter - even got one miser ring. I want more levels!
This actually seems like something Konami might do if we wrote a collective letter and asked REALLY nicely and promised to pay $5 a pop.
We'd actually have to pay that though.
Anyone care to start drafting?
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Makes me want to play it now. It's been a long time.
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Does this mean there are people playing the game online again? I don't have a PS4 yet, but I'd love to put some more hours into Harmony of Despair.
Here are some of the players I met online playing Castlevania HD on PS4 PS Now. I think all of them play on PS3, but it's great PS4 and PS3 can play together. Be sure to be polite, good natured and respectful and if you want to befriend them, mention Castlevania HD and interest to expand your online network of CVHD friends to play together online:
XxMUDKIPZxX , Chrisdon111 , ADMLT_JA_DE , Sigmacronos, J_MM_B , CamoLogan , Caboozey , AtsunoriHiroki , Toughguypete , aran_belmont , HokagesonX , edvaldo29 , knucklehead_86 , Whipsmemory , spiritualaw , TenshiNoZero , Hmong_Leee , NightmareGunter , CarotMan77, AiuraRr
but yea, things get complicated when PS3 gamers expect PS4 gamers to have the DLC, but if everyone is fine with playing chapters 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 or 7, then there's no pressure, lol. Out of all the hours playing online, there were very few occasions of connection issues and only one time it disconnected when playing with a Japanese player that had no name (but there was another no name Japanese player I played with and we played flawless connection online for several chapters.)
It can vary depending on the time of day, but there can be players found online, especially if you add the ongoing players to friends list, so that expands options. there was even one that left my room multiple times, until I waited to give them time to invite someone, they invited like 3 or 4 players, lol!
So yeah if you are host, it is good to have an understanding of the CVHD online culture and how to effectively keeping the lobby open while the other players ready up, so more could potentially join. but sometimes, it's good to ready up, because others won't ready up until you do, and if they don't see the host ready up, they might leave.
and be ready to kick a player if they make the others wait too long. it's tough to gauge when's the right time, but the more skilled you are at good judgement, the more populated and lively your lobby will be.
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Awesome!! today had great online sessions with more new players I haven't met before! first it was a duo co-op, then later, we got 6 players together for at least two chapters (7 and 6). We even got in the team Richter and Maria (with their default colors, enhancing Ronda nostalgia), AND Charlotte and Jonathan together too (I choose black costume to match Jonathan's colors.) here's some met online
Edensend , Swrd , Zonda GT1 , fazeo12 , Shalashaska32810 . perhaps they are seeking more players to play CVHD with. also teamed up with some Japanese players:
Kautoyo2541 , Shikyoh696 , ASH-VNR or ASR, I dunno, I should of wrote it more clearly, darn handwriting. sorry if any of the name are inaccurate.
I'm getting really motivated to just get the PS3 on this tv so I can use all the DLC for it, lol. PS4 is more comfy (the only functional ps3 controller I have is some cheap $20 one). yea maybe Ill play the ps3 version, that way can host chapter 9, 10, and 11.
oh yea and I heard CVHD is on sale on PS3, not sure if it's still on, and you have to search for CVHD, but they say it's now under $5.
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This and MGS4 would be a good excuse to get a PS3. Maybe when I get more money...
What makes me happy about it is to see its servers still working and with people playing it.
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I'm getting really motivated to just get the PS3 on this tv so I can use all the DLC for it, lol. PS4 is more comfy (the only functional ps3 controller I have is some cheap $20 one). yea maybe Ill play the ps3 version, that way can host chapter 9, 10, and 11.
The DS4 controller is actually compatible with PS3. The only downsides are that you can't access the XMB with it, and you need to be plugged in. When I didn't have any working DS3s I just plugged in my DS4 and used one of the screwed-up DS3s I had to access the XMB.
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ah thanks. haha, starting up the PS3 and playing that version with the DLCs, it's so much better, but yea the publisher is too dumb these days to port the game and DLCs to PS4. yea in a way its also the fanbase's fault, if CVHD made Resident Evil Remake numbers on PSN, they would have prioritized a port (even an ongoing series), yea money talks (look at Pokemon Go).
anyways CVHD is a masterpiece and its great there are fans that still play it. though yea it's a shame it didn't sell more for expanded support and sequel expansions to that formula. even the most incredible games gotta have new content added to sustain interest. most of the Diablo II fanbase moved on to Diablo III and demand a Diablo IV.
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ah thanks. haha, starting up the PS3 and playing that version with the DLCs, it's so much better, but yea the publisher is too dumb these days to port the game and DLCs to PS4. yea in a way its also the fanbase's fault, if CVHD made Resident Evil Remake numbers on PSN, they would have prioritized a port (even an ongoing series), yea money talks (look at Pokemon Go).
Yeah, it's pretty much that. It's not that Konami is too dumb to port it or anything, it's just that the game didn't do well enough to warrant a port. It received a PS3 port way back in 2011 just because of the exclusivity deal with Microsoft (to land it on the Summer Games or whatever event), and because PS3 'vania fans wanted to play it, too. But overall the game did horribly with critics (and a huge amount of the fanbase) and as far as I'm aware sold horribly, too. That being said there's still a sizable niche for it, which is still pretty surprising.
The game is really fun, though, despite it's numerous major problems (rehashed graphics, extreme grindfest, lack of content, etc). I really enjoy the game and have put hundreds of hours into both versions so I'm happy to see it get some love.
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Yeah, it's pretty much that. It's not that Konami is too dumb to port it or anything, it's just that the game didn't do well enough to warrant a port. It received a PS3 port way back in 2011 just because of the exclusivity deal with Microsoft (to land it on the Summer Games or whatever event), and because PS3 'vania fans wanted to play it, too. But overall the game did horribly with critics (and a huge amount of the fanbase) and as far as I'm aware sold horribly, too. That being said there's still a sizable niche for it, which is still pretty surprising.
The game is really fun, though, despite it's numerous major problems (rehashed graphics, extreme grindfest, lack of content, etc). I really enjoy the game and have put hundreds of hours into both versions so I'm happy to see it get some love.
yea its upsetting when the fanbase betray something that combines the best of the classics, innovates and introduces a new cooperative genre, and the fanbase sell out to some foreign developer's game instead, just because their "Castlevania" game has high 3D graphics (mercurysteam are just as bad as ninja theory). and CVHD was led by IGA!!
it's really messed up, just like how the fighting game community demand Darkstalkers 4, but then they use the dumbed excuses to not buy Darkstalkers Resurrection. meanwhile, a port of Resident Evil Remake adds next to nothing and it breaks PSN records, which greenlights a Resident Evil 2 Remake, as the RE fans requested.
my waffles, the possibilities for a CVHD series. Dragon Ball Xenoverse is a massive grindfest, it sold millions, and its sequel is already selling better.
konami is dysfunctional, but they can make things happen if fanbase proved to them something matters. ah well, another developer could learn from CVHD and make something similiar or greater. it doesn't have to be CV brand. but it shouldn't be shovelware either.
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I wouldn't be so fast to blame the fanbase or say that it could be different had shown they were interested in it. I think the fans bought their copies, the problem was the people that only play CV sometimes, as in not hardcore fans. Even so its all Konami fault for their decisions, blaming the fans would be the same as blaming MML fans for MML3 being cancelled, like Capcom did.
Dragon Ball Xenoverse sells well because its good, closest thing to Budokai Tenkaichi 3 nowadays and well, its Dragon Ball xD
Since CV: HD is playable on PS4 now, it only shows that Konami knows there is a public for it, being maybe even worse since its like they know and still chooses to ignore us...
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Fuck Super Mario Maker, I want a Castlevania Maker.
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Fuck Super Mario Maker, I want a Castlevania Maker.
I second this!