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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => Hardcore Gaming 101 => Topic started by: VladCT on October 20, 2016, 12:53:44 PM
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http://gematsu.com/2016/10/nintendo-switch-game-console-unveiled (http://gematsu.com/2016/10/nintendo-switch-game-console-unveiled)
So... Thoughts?
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I'm not the smallest bit impressed, to be honest. It's Nintendo again betting on the portability gimmick, this time with strange, small joysticks.
Yeah yeah Skyrim yeah 5 year-old-game-running-on-a-Nintendo yeah not a big deal really. Also, Zelda looked choppy from the brief images we got.
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Ugh... :P Why is Nintendo messing around with their controllers? Again? The box-ish shape is going to be difficult to use. I like my D-Pad perpendicular to the A,B,X,Y, buttons. Both Analogue sticks should be below them. Hopefully a game pad comes out that mimics the PS controller design as it's way better and more comfortable. And why call it the Nintendo Switch? What's wrong with NX?
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Nintendo has never failed to puzzle.
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I need to see it in action personally but from what I've seen and heard so far I am intrigued.
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Looked pretty nice to me.
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I like what I see so far. Plus, the amount of third-party support they're supposedly getting is setting this off to a good start.
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I'm eager to see what the launch software will be, but I'm kind of interested in getting this day one, and I've never gotten a console on launch.
I like its use of flash memory game cartridges. It's a medium I'd like to see resurrected since you can get high capacity SD cards pretty cheaply these days. More durable, longer lasting than discs with no pesky optical drive to break down.
Console/handheld hybrid is a nice experiment. Guess we'll see if Nintendo can manage to rein in the handheld market with this one; I know plenty of people who just got their first 3DS and I don't imagine they'll be eager to buy another system too soon. But I like the idea of a game system you can play on-the-go with a sizable screen, plus dock it for full HD (or at least 720p) TV play.
I'm intrigued. I'll likely get Breath of the Wild on Wii U because I imagine the game was optimized for that hardware, but we'll see. It would be nice to see a comparison of the two versions on Digital Foundry before the game releases.
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I like what I see so far. Plus, the amount of third-party support they're supposedly getting is setting this off to a good start.
Let's see if those 3rd party devs actually stick with Switch support a year after launch. I Remember when the Wii U got a nice chunk of 3rd party support when it was announced and they bailed 6 months after launch.
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Let's see if those 3rd party devs actually stick with Switch support a year after launch. I Remember when the Wii U got a nice chunk of 3rd party support when it was announced and they bailed 6 months after launch.
My thoughts exactly. I like the look of it, but I don't like the --possibility-- that the pro controller is a separate purchase. Hopefully there will be some good bundles.
I am really waiting on specs because I'm very curious how this is going to work. I've wondered if the dock has a GPU booster inside of it and on-the-go gaming is a lower resolution and texture quality.
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Let's see if those 3rd party devs actually stick with Switch support a year after launch. I Remember when the Wii U got a nice chunk of 3rd party support when it was announced and they bailed 6 months after launch.
Very good argument. Add on that Skyrim was in the trailer but Bethesda will not confirm whether the game is even going to be on the console, and it does warrant skepticism.
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Guaranteed the Switch Pro Controller will be a separate purchase. I'd love it if Wii U Pro Controllers were compatible but that's not likely to happen. Nintendo gotta get dat munnay!
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Just leave the name as NX... Seriously. The Wii U would've sold better as the Revolution, the Switch would sell better as the NX and it's a much nicer title.
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I've been telling people this all day. It could be the best system yet but it will need good games to go with it. I know I would personally love another console Fire Emblem or heck maybe they'll make a new Castlevania on this
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Just leave the name as NX... Seriously.
I hated the name NX and it was clearly just a codename. Switch isn't amazing but at least it's not New Wii U.
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"Switch" at the very least makes sense considering its gimmick, straightforward and on-the-nose as it may be.
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Nintendo is making it blatantly obvious that they want people to go outside again.
Otherwise... Meh. I'm not a big fan of baby-sized controllers.
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I like it. Handheld gaming is something I really like and the option to play it on TV is a plus.
But the decision to purchase or not would depend on both the price and the available software titles.
I see a cartridge slot. Will it be backwards compatible with DS/3DS games? ('cuz handheld DS 'vanias on TV is very very appealing)
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Just leave the name as NX... Seriously. The Wii U would've sold better as the Revolution, the Switch would sell better as the NX and it's a much nicer title.
Wii was Revolution, not Wii U. Wii U was a multitude of things like Wii HD, Project Cafe, and Wii 2.
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Just leave the name as NX... Seriously. The Wii U would've sold better as the Revolution, the Switch would sell better as the NX and it's a much nicer title.
Wii codename was Revolution, Wii U was called Project Cafe.
I like what they did this time, making sure that people understand that its not a add-on but a new console was a huge start and shows that they learned from Wii U reveal mistake. maybe it can even be compatible with some old hardware (I doubt this) but showing it on the reveal trailer could make people getting confused like they did before, hurting Nintendo sales.
I know its not something really mind-blowing and is expected with each new console, but no one else is going to talk about this new Mario game? These places remembers Sunshine but it isn't Sunshine, so its a new game? At first I even thought it could be a Mario Sunshine HD but there is no FLUDD to be seen.
Also this "base" seems to be for recharging battery but also to connect the console to TV via HDMI or something?
Its like said to some friends, the reveal could've been better but even so I like what I saw, it wasn't a let down. I only wish that they use it as a step to promote and explain it better from now on.
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I've seen a variety of articles come across Facebook that have said there is no backwards compatibility, the controllers will come with (nothing about the pro, that's surely separate), and the possibility of mobile games is unconfirmed. I can't share them here though...I saw them when scrolling through FB on my phone, and...well frankly I just don't wanna try and find them right now because the burger beside me is begging me to finish eating it!
I don't see myself ditching the WiiU for this unless they add backwards compatibility and some option for transferring stuff I've downloaded from the eShop. I'll definitely be getting one though! It looks good enough and different enough...and besides, despite the general "hate" there seems to be for the WiiU, I've thoroughly enjoyed it.
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No backwards compatibility... awww shucks.
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No backwards compatibility... awww shucks.
I know. "50 inches of Igavania" would've been a magnificent moment and hashtag.
I really think NX or NEX: Nintendo Entertainment Cross would've been better than Switch.
Nonetheless I don't mind the idea of having a portable console. I can appreciate that for people moving around a lot or who don't necessarily have room for a tv, it's actually very practical.
What I don't like is the little "half controllers". They tried this with the wiimote, having it turn sideways to double as an NES controller, which doesn't really work imo. There's not enough buttons for one thing. Though I will reserve judgement as this may only be the case for certain games and not main titles.
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A home/portable Nintendo hybrid could have an impressive library.
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Good:
-Extremely versatile
-Powerful portable device
-Gimmick that doesn't get in the way of playing games
-Carts
-Seem to be aiming for adult gamers this time
Bad:
-Split dpad (I understand why, but it'll make dpad focused game a bitch to play)
-Tegra chipset could make porting games a headache
-Transporting the joycons: could be easily lost or broken
We'll have to wait for more info to see where this thing is gonna go
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Something tells me there's not going to be any next gen DS and the Switch will replace and merge home consoles and portable consoles.
Assuming this is the case, the issue I see is that 3DS sold way higher numbers (at a lower pricepoint) than the Wii U.
I have a feeling Ninty are assuming their handheld supporters will automatically support the Switch, but I'm not so sure this is a wise assumption.
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Bad:
-Split dpad (I understand why, but it'll make dpad focused game a bitch to play)
Never was a problem for Sony. PlayStation is second only to Nintendo for best D-pad. Granted, the Switch controller has the directions spaced out farther than a DualShock and they don't taper toward the center, so that could be a problem. Won't know till we've played it.
The Pro controller has a normal Ninty D-pad at least.
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I can easily deal with a split D-Pad. The only issue is that it's in the wrong spot.
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I have a feeling Ninty are assuming their handheld supporters will automatically support the Switch, but I'm not so sure this is a wise assumption.
Why wouldn't handheld supporters support the Switch? I get that it isn't something they should assume (I suspect we all know that saying about assuming ;-P) but if the system is some sort of blend between console and handheld what would prevent the other developers supporting it? Some sort of major tech difference I'm just not understanding?
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Why wouldn't handheld supporters support the Switch? I get that it isn't something they should assume (I suspect we all know that saying about assuming ;-P) but if the system is some sort of blend between console and handheld what would prevent the other developers supporting it? Some sort of major tech difference I'm just not understanding?
The reason not all handheld supporters will necessarily support a home console (even doubling as a portable console) is simply first and foremost, the price. Despite the bigger screen and increased technology, not everyone will want something as expensive as a home console.
Think about it in this way, there's now a "New Nintendo 3ds" which plays certain games you can't play on a regular 3ds, and because it's new it costs slightly more. Take that to the next level hypothetically and say there's a "New 3ds 2" which plays all Wii U console games (hypothetically) but the price point is considerably higher again. Rather than 300 AUD it's going to cost 500 AUD. Understand it plays more games etc.. However, for most of the general public on median wages/ salary, that's a lot more money for something than the average customer may be willing to spend.
The other thing is the DS/ handheld generation who may not be willing to buy a console given that their hand is being forced to buy a hole console and again, pay more money.
With developers I don't know the ramifications exactly. But, for eg if the technology is far more advanced then it may take additional time & resources (= money) to develop something at a lower budget. If the technology is straight forward then it shouldn't be problematic, but I'm simply flagging as a potential issue as we're not sure how handheld developers would fit in. It depends on the complexity of the development kit.
This all comes back to the state of the economy.
People are spending less on luxuries and more on essentials. People are starting to play through backlogs of games rather than "collecting" new ones.
With a squeezed economy also comes squeezed pockets, not only for consumers but for developers, along with squeezed contracts.
In truth Nintendo's idea for the Switch is actually very solid, but may have manifested in a less than ideal global financial context to allow it to flourish.
Of course the wealthy will purchase it, and if it can do what an iPad does for example, the Ninty supporters may also convert just because it's Nintendo.
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One possible con is the physical size of the Switch and there being no screen-protective clamshell design. A New 3DS XL just BARELY fits in a pocket as it is.
I get that some people carry around tablets and hopefully someone will make a nice carrying case for the system, but I think the large size might make it a bit less appealing to some as a handheld.
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I'm sure Nintendo is thinking, if the ipads are big, so can our handhelds.
Hori or any other 3rd party will definitely make a carrying case for it.
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Note I said nice carrying case. ;) I never found a suitable one for the Wii U GamePad.
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If any 3rd party carrying case doesn't fit your needs, if you know how to DIY or know someone who can, then there's no problem.
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Nintendo or a 3P supplier will definitely make a carry case akin to the iPad's. The Wii U gamepad was never meant to be taken out of your house, the first thing they have to account for with encouraging this nature of the console is that people will drop it.
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Never was a problem for Sony. PlayStation is second only to Nintendo for best D-pad. Granted, the Switch controller has the directions spaced out farther than a DualShock and they don't taper toward the center, so that could be a problem. Won't know till we've played it.
The Pro controller has a normal Ninty D-pad at least.
True but the dpad on the dualshocks is shaped for a thumb to easily rock around. The Switch literally seems to have four individual buttons, like using the ABXY as a dpad. It'll be fine for modern games that don't heavily use the dpad but for 8 and 16bit games I think it could be a problem. Pat the NES punk did say on his podcast he sees Nintendo releasing virtual console themed joycons to give Switch NES or SNES style controls, and that's an awesome idea
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Yeah, but how much is this console/handheld hybrid going to cost? People who only buy the portable might not buy it if it's over $249.99 USD.
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Yeah, but how much is this console/handheld hybrid going to cost? People who only buy the portable might not buy it if it's over $249.99 USD.
This is something they haven't thought out properly. Unless they keep making DS's or handhelds which are separate and cheaper than the Switch, which is kinda pointless imo.
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How much PS Vita was costing at launch price?
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"If you're considering a purchase, here are the all the details on pricing and launch day titles. The Wi-Fi version of the PS Vita will cost $249, while the AT&T 3G version will sell for $299 (plus data plan). Two data plans are available through AT&T - 250MB for $14.99 and 3BG for $30.00."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ps-vita-launch-day-titles-and-pricing-details/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ps-vita-launch-day-titles-and-pricing-details/)