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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Azmodan on September 28, 2007, 02:31:58 PM
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I thought it was generally agreed that Soma was born as the reincarnation of Dracula. But I was surprised that some see an alternate theory where Soma was independent of Drac's soul prior to Aria of Sorrow.
What's the general consensus here?
Rebirth of Dracula
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An unfortunate teenager who gained powers when he entered Dracula's Castle; not a reincarnation of anybody
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In Reply To #1
It has been officially stated that he is Dracula reincarnated... I don't recall anyone here ever disagreeing with this.
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No, not here but on another forum some people argue otherwise. I just wanted to hear the general thought of the members here.
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th epeople who argue otherwise are just stupid. Its official, and stating otherwise just means you are in denile.
You can always fanfic what you think..... but its still not official, feel free to tell those people they fail at life.
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Well, it was more or less centered on whether Soma's soul is Mathias but purified, and the other arguement is that A.) Soma and Mathais do not resemble one another
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B.) Soma's power was gained through entering the eclipse.
I found the interview that confirmed it, JoW, thanks for clearing that up!
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I think people that tried to 'assume' that Soma was just 'a normal teenager that unfortunately got Dracula's power' is because of the storyline in Dawn of Sorrow: were two other men could be canidates to hold Dracula's soul because of when they were born.
I figure they just assumed that Soma got it when there are apparently others that could have had the soul as well, so instead of being a perfect reincarnation, he's just more of a 'holder of the soul'.
Or something like that.
But yeah, he's officially the reincarnation.
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In Reply To #6
You missed the point. Soma is Dracula. But Dracula is not the only person who could be the lord of darkness. Graham, Dimitri, and Dario were all people who could have become the lord of evil if they received the power of Chaos. But Chaos prefers Soma probably just because his soul is more familiar to it.
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In Reply To #6
You missed the point.
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2 words! bad storytelling!
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My take on it was that when Dracula died, his powers were fragmented. His soul wandered the void for a while before reincarnating into Soma. That being said, Soma got the largest chunk of what was once Dracula's power over chaos. Those born on the same day that Dracula was defeated all received small traces of Drac's power, that could be augmented and used at any time in the future. Hence, the Dark Lord Candidates.
The Dark Lord Candidates all have traces of Dracula's power as well, though not nearly as much as Soma since he has Dracula's full soul, and thus he has the largest bid over the powers of Chaos. If Soma were to be killed, then whomever had the next largest amount of Dracula's powers within them would in theory be the next in line to control the powers of Chaos. Given that every Dark Lord Candidate has roughly the same amount of Dracula's power within them (to begin with at least), then any of them could be the next in line for that bid on Chaos.
This would explain how Graham was able to wield the Castle's powers after a certain amount of time of being exposed inside it - it recognized the faint amounts of Dracula's power within him, and simply augmented them. He fed off the Castle, in a sense. However, Soma didn't necessarily need the Castle's influence to access his powers, hence he was the stronger of the two. Both Dario and Dimitri had powers to begin with, but they were augmented by the demons of chaos that Celia summoned for them....instead of feeding off Castlevania like Graham.
So basically, Soma is Dracula and the Dark Lord, but someone else could become the Dark Lord if Soma were to be killed and the powers of chaos moved onto the next person who could access them. However, only Soma is Dracula and that can't be changed until he dies and his soul is reincarnated again.
Savvy?
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B.) Soma's power was gained through entering the eclipse.
The whole reason Dracula was able to be killed permanently in 1999 was because his powers were sealed within the eclipse, thus cutting them off from his soul so he couldn't resurrect anymore.
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In Reply To #11
It was Soma inheriting the soul of Dracula that was in question, not having the powers awakened by entering the castle.
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In Reply To #12
And I was pointing out that the circumstances by which Soma gained his dark powers were not suspect.
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What do you mean? The opposing view of the 'Dracula's parasite soul' theory is that Soma gained Dracula's soul when he went through the eclipse, not that he was born with Dracula's/Mathias's soul and that entering the eclipse awoke his powers.
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So I've never really gotten into the bullcrap 'Soma isn't Dracula' thing, because it was stated he was, not only for all the reasons that people stated such as...well...OFFICIAL plotline statements, but also because Matthias looks a hellofa lot like Soma. Obvioulsy more developed features since he's 34, and Soma's only 18, but still.
Here, compare.
http://castlevania.armster.org/artbook/artbook01.jpg
http://castlevania.armster.org/guide/loi3_mathias.jpg
primerely cheekbones, eyes, the forehead, and the lips. Even the arch of the eyebrows.
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In Reply To #15
I believe whats confusing your here is that ALL of her chars look damn near identical so saying theres some similarities between Soma 1.0 and Matthias isnt really proving much =D
Sorry had to throw that in but yeah Soma = Drac reborn
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In Reply To #16
Correct! Just look at Julius & Hammer, lol.
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My take on this issue is this:
Soma is THE reincarnation of Mathias Cronqvist/Dracula.
The reason why Celia Fortner wanted him dead so bad was because his soul, is perfectly capable of wielding/containing the power of Chaos.
This was proven that Chaos simply cannot be contained by anyone else save Dracula/Soma himself. Graham tried to harness Chaos' power, but ended up being consumed, as well as Dimtrii.
That was the reason why Celia wishes the soul of Soma/Dracula to be free, for her to harness the soul and create the perfect Dark Lord thru her candidates.
Soma Cruz is simply the "pure" rebirth of Dracula; wherein he doesn't hate humans OR God. He is completely free of the hatred which drives him, and makes him the perfect person to control Chaos, because of his ever consuming hatred towards humans and God. Unlike Dimtrii, Graham, and Dario; who simply wishes to gain power, Soma/Dracula's hatred fuels him thus he has the power to control over Chaos because of it. That's the reason why Celia wanted Soma to be consumed by hatred so badly, so that if Soma was so full of negative energy, Soma will once again return to the hateful Dracula that is perfectly able to wield Chaos.
In my opinion also, Chaos gives Dracula his dark powers, as well as reanimates the castle itself and gives it a "life" as a creature like what Alucard once stated, thus it has many different incarnations because it has a life of its own so to speak. For me, Chaos and Dracula share a mutual coexistence, thus Julius Belmont was successful in destroying Dracula once and for all, once he found out that Chaos was the source of his power and cut Dracula's ties with it.
Well that's just my obsevation though... I may be wrong...
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"Chaos" is just another word for the evil streak--the chaos--in Dracula's soul.
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So then, I was kinda right after all? In my original post?