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Title: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: Nagumo on January 08, 2017, 01:34:19 PM
Interesting interview (I stole this from NeoGAF).

Relevant quote:


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In the past, other well-known creators such as Koji Igarashi and Keiji Inafune and others have had trouble getting support for high-res 2D games by their publishers, despite the hunger for these types of games by fans. Another example is Metroid, which hasn't seen a 2D incarnation on console in a long time. If the opportunity arose, would you be up for making a Metroid-style game?

That sounds great. I'd love to try to make it. How do you think the fans would react if Vanillaware made a Castlevania game?

Full interview (http://www.glixel.com/interviews/vanillawares-kamitani-on-keeping-2d-alive-in-the-age-of-3d-w458985)


Like I said, this is not a guarantee of anything. However, I like the fact that an interesting developer such as Vanilliaware seems interested at taking a shot at Castlevania. I noticed that he specifically brought up Castlevania without being explicitly prompted to do so. They only ask him if he's interested in making a metroid-style game and only seem to bring up IGA in relation to Bloodstained. It probably doesn't meany anything, though.     
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: uzo on January 08, 2017, 02:08:59 PM
WayForward said the same thing years ago. Unless Konami cares, things won't go anywhere.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think WayForward even made a prototype to show them and it still got shot down.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: VladCT on January 08, 2017, 03:19:15 PM
Yeah, the fact that Konami just plain doesn't give a shit anymore these days means we won't be getting to see Castlevania: Thicc Edition anytime soon.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: X on January 08, 2017, 05:32:24 PM
I'm never gonna get hyped until I have a brand new copy of a new CV in my hands. A new Metroid game would be nice too, and hopefully a game that retcons the awfully atrociously written story of Other M.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on January 08, 2017, 07:08:02 PM
hopefully a game that retcons the awfully atrociously written story of Other M.

Metroid bit deleted because it's going in a new thread

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Also, on topic, I'd be totally cool with a Vanillaware Castlevania, but at this point, I'd be cool with an ANYTHING Castlevania that isn't EROTIC VIOLENCE. Unfortunately, Uzo and VladCT are dead on the money.

[EDIT EDIT]

Metroid thread is up. (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,8962.msg196564.html)
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: theplottwist on January 08, 2017, 09:04:18 PM
Fact: Vanillaware can pull of some of the best animations and 2D graphics on the video game market.

Fact: If they got to make Castlevania and went with the style they're used to, we'd have something worthy of the Erotic Violence name. And I don't mean this on the good sense.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: zangetsu468 on January 08, 2017, 11:20:49 PM
She doesn't act like Samus because in the strictest sense, she's NOT Samus.

That's an interesting an odd headcanon, I think you should definitely start another topic on it.
I say this because the entire Ridley thing is also strange; the baby Ridley had to be born/ cultivated on the Bottleship as a clone of the original. Ridley can not be a baby because in SM he was fully grown and he was destroyed by Samus. (Previous to SM it had always been the original Ridley through ZM>MP>MP3>SM)

Also, on topic, I'd be totally cool with a Vanillaware Castlevania, but at this point, I'd be cool with an ANYTHING Castlevania that isn't EROTIC VIOLENCE. Unfortunately, Uzo and VladCT are dead on the money.

Give it to Vanillaware, nobody else is doing anything with it.

Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on January 09, 2017, 03:27:53 AM
I agree with all of the previous posters. Nothing would happen unless Konami says go, which is impossible.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on January 09, 2017, 10:49:05 AM
Fuck, I miss when this was still a franchise full of possibilities with its best days yet to come.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: Dremn on January 09, 2017, 05:29:35 PM
Sounds like a dream combination, so it won't happen because Konami is a fucking terrible company that would shoot down any sensible ideas now
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: Kingshango on January 09, 2017, 10:01:18 PM
I mean, it makes sense since Konami wants to capitalize on the "Erotic violence."
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: Belmontoya on January 09, 2017, 11:48:50 PM
I've been saying Vanillaware should get CV for years now.

Nothing would make me happier than for them to do CV. Their style would work amazingly well for it. It would be just the style overhaul CV needs imo.

I would take Vanillaware over any other studio.

Please please please.

Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: The Puritan on January 10, 2017, 02:38:36 AM
Yeah, the fact that Konami just plain doesn't give a shit anymore these days means we won't be getting to see Castlevania: Thicc Edition anytime soon.

The world's not yet ready for Thicc Sypha and Thicc Maria.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: VladCT on January 10, 2017, 03:51:42 AM
And then you remember Konami seems to think that loli Maria is the more popular one.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: Super Waffle on January 10, 2017, 09:12:59 AM
Thicc Sypha

Isn't that basically her Pachislot III incarnation?
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: Dremn on January 10, 2017, 10:48:45 AM
George Kamitani's take on the Belmonts would be really interesting, I'd be all for it

I think the exaggerated art style would work very well with Castlevania
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1z5TODW8AEwsK-.jpg)

this dude already looks like Simon
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rpgfan.com%2Fpics%2FDragons_Crown%2Fss-028.jpg&hash=5beb7600c7690f8975f2a138762d3aa623e627ab)
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: zangetsu468 on January 10, 2017, 11:36:46 AM
"Thicc Sypha" means something else to the poor sods waiting at the free clinic for shots of penicillin... :P
#penicillvania
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: Ahasverus on January 10, 2017, 12:00:54 PM
Too late, I'm hyped.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: e105beta on January 10, 2017, 02:44:58 PM
As cool as this would be, I imagine we'd get a Castlevania: Survive done in the Fox Engine before we get a Vanillaware Castlevania.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: X on January 10, 2017, 03:39:41 PM
OSM@

And THAT would be a much better Simon then anything we've seen of him as of late (even though he is exaggerated). I personally feel he would even outrank Kojima's Chronicles Simon design by light years.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: Nagumo on January 11, 2017, 05:29:05 PM
I think the exaggerated art style would work very well with Castlevania

It could be an interesting opportunity to put barbarian characters and more elegant looking characters in the same game together instead of having one or the other. The exaggerated style would work with the barbarian characters because they are such cheesy power fantasies that they really shouldn't play them straight.   
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: shelverton. on January 11, 2017, 08:06:40 PM
Great art style aside, what exactly would Vanillaware bring to the table here? I don't remember anything they've ever done that even remotely suggests they should make a Castlevania game. I'd be thrilled to see them create the art, cause it's fantastic, but as for the actual game? I mean, for starters I fear the level design would be quite sad...
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: e105beta on January 12, 2017, 01:33:14 PM
Great art style aside, what exactly would Vanillaware bring to the table here? I don't remember anything they've ever done that even remotely suggests they should make a Castlevania game. I'd be thrilled to see them create the art, cause it's fantastic, but as for the actual game? I mean, for starters I fear the level design would be quite sad...

I don't see them making a super precise pitfalls & platforming Classicvania, but with a little more focus on level design I could easily see them making a fun Castlevania. I've only played Odin Sphere and Muramasa, but both were great examples of tight controls and engaging encounters. The boss fights were fantastic.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: zangetsu468 on January 13, 2017, 08:10:54 AM
As much as I enjoy the art style of Vanillaware, I don't think the artstyle would fit the playstyle of Castlevania unless they made the colours more washed out and grittier, with more gothic and adult looking characters. The Alucard-style pic looks decent, but the Barbarian is overly exaggerated for Cv imho. I think something more along the lines of CV1's cover but more exaggerated could sell me on the art style fitting.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: KaZudra on January 13, 2017, 09:38:44 AM
As much as I enjoy the art style of Vanillaware, I don't think the artstyle would fit the playstyle of Castlevania unless they made the colours more washed out and grittier, with more gothic and adult looking characters. The Alucard-style pic looks decent, but the Barbarian is overly exaggerated for Cv imho. I think something more along the lines of CV1's cover but more exaggerated could sell me on the art style fitting.

I dunno about that, Tree Of Savior (MMO) Nailed Vanillaware's style whilst still being proportionate as well as have many beautiful colorful environments.
It's possible, just VW would have to be a little more tame, as for the gameplay department, I'd rather someone else do it, I like Vanillaware games, nice to look at, but playing then is a different thing.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: zangetsu468 on January 13, 2017, 03:15:32 PM
I like Vanillaware games, nice to look at, but playing then is a different thing.

I don't know about that. I've played Dragon's Crown and played Muramasa extensively and I can fault the gameplay, particularly not on Muramasa - for me it's the best 2d platformer on the Wii.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: Belmontoya on January 13, 2017, 04:18:02 PM
I agree with Zangetsu.

Muramasa is a masterpiece.

Dragons crown is more of a nod to Golden Axe. It's not a game that can be compared to CV and honestly that style of game doesn't appeal as much to me.

If Vanillaware gets CV, I have no doubt they would produce one of the best CV games ever made.

I'm playing through Muramasa again because this news got me so excited. And so far all of my memories of it's greatness have been double certified.

If you haven't played Muramasa... Play Muramasa.

I suggest the vita version with the DLC.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: X on January 14, 2017, 03:21:50 AM
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I suggest the vita version with the DLC.

I got's all that on my Vita  :)  That spider geisha is creepy as f**k!

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As much as I enjoy the art style of Vanillaware, I don't think the artstyle would fit the playstyle of Castlevania unless they made the colours more washed out and grittier, with more gothic and adult looking characters. The Alucard-style pic looks decent, but the Barbarian is overly exaggerated for Cv imho.

Since after SotN CV has had overly exaggerated characters. Not body-stature mind you, but Kojima just can't get off the pretty boy wagon, even with characters who're supposed to be normal humans and not supernatural beings. Issac was the last straw for me. Kojima can do decent looking people who aren't overly exaggerated pretty boys, but those were very far and few. There was just too much of it happening in CV. I personally wouldn't mind vanilla ware's artstyle being done for CV. Muramasa is a good indicator that not everything they do is as exaggerated as Dragon's Crown.
Title: Re: George Kamitani (Vanillaware) interested in making Castlevania (don't get hyped)
Post by: zangetsu468 on January 15, 2017, 02:16:57 AM
I agree with Zangetsu.

Muramasa is a masterpiece.

Dragons crown is more of a nod to Golden Axe. It's not a game that can be compared to CV and honestly that style of game doesn't appeal as much to me.

Muramasa also has the Vanillaware artstyle without it being overly exaggerated. Don't get me wrong I love the artstyle, especially the more voluptuous women, but some of the art is a bit overly exaggerated. Whereas Muramasa's art style is more "Japanese" in concept.

DC = Golden Axe x Guardian Heroes, two of my favourite oldschool Sega games. :)


I got's all that on my Vita  :)  That spider geisha is creepy as f**k!

Ah damnit... Well I'm never buying a Vita, but I still enjoy the Wii version.
Still need to finish Shigurui with Kisuke, got up to the final boss a couple of years back.