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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Reinhart77 on July 09, 2017, 12:30:54 PM
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https://www.inverse.com/article/33869-netflix-s-castlevania-soundtrack-creepy-as-hell (https://www.inverse.com/article/33869-netflix-s-castlevania-soundtrack-creepy-as-hell)
Oh I see that the soundtrack "IS" available on iTunes (and spotify). I really shouldn't buy it there after they took down all the other CV Soundtracks I had bought on iTunes, but I can't help myself! I'll probably end up picking up a CD at a convention sometime years down the road anyways.
What a bloody shame the other soundtracks aren't on iTunes anymore. After this animation, they might have gotten an uptick of sales.
EDIT: Oh I'm sure Konami had little to do with this release, so I should probably stop my whining haha.
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The soundtrack's also available on Amazon. I grabbed a copy off there, if anything, as extra background music for myself. :)
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I just can't...the soundtrack they made is an insult to the catalog of potential music they could have used. That's my largest complaint with the show. The music itself is even kind of stock to me. Maybe I'm just old and grouchy.
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I just can't...the soundtrack they made is an insult to the catalog of potential music they could have used. That's my largest complaint with the show. The music itself is even kind of stock to me. Maybe I'm just old and grouchy.
No, I'm grouchy as well about it. The music is such a big part of the franchise and to not use *any* of it (not even has sweeping arrangements like some LoS tracks did) is the biggest gripe I have and the biggest snub I think they made. Granted, I'll give the series more viewings and I'll form a better opinion, but it just seems like a damn waste to me. I don't know if Konami either wouldn't sell them the license (but they did Mondo?) or it was too expensive to purchase the music license (but they're Netflix so I doubt it, especially if Mondo could) or the showrunners straight up didn't WANT to feature any of the game music at all (which would be flat out idiotic).....but any excuse they make is, in my mind, a poor one.
If the music Trevor Morris made stood on it's own feet, I might feel a bit differently, but it sounds like generic synth stuff for the most part and none of it is really all too memorable, so as far as I'm concerned that's a fail.
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I'd like to rewatch this with voice turned off and just the background music playing sometime haha.
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I just can't...the soundtrack they made is an insult to the catalog of potential music they could have used. That's my largest complaint with the show. The music itself is even kind of stock to me. Maybe I'm just old and grouchy.
Aight, I'm prolly not as old as you, but I'm still am grouchy about that too. As others have said, the music is generic and I wished they used tracks from the games.
If the music Trevor Morris made stood on it's own feet, I might feel a bit differently, but it sounds like generic synth stuff for the most part and none of it is really all too memorable, so as far as I'm concerned that's a fail.
I agree; even if they used no game music, at least they could've made the tracks in the same style as the games. But nah, it's just generic orchestra-synth ambiance stuff.
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- They prob didn't have the rights to use previous CV music.
- The music wasn't good on its own but it fits the series and its atmosphere.
/thread
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I would have liked to hear a hint of Vampire Killer or even Beginning in the soundtrack, but what we got was fine for a TV series. Still crossing my fingers for some fan service in the music next time.
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I would have liked to hear a hint of Vampire Killer or even Beginning in the soundtrack, but what we got was fine for a TV series. Still crossing my fingers for some fan service in the music next time.
Here's hoping for those in the next season.
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- They prob didn't have the rights to use previous CV music.
- The music wasn't good on its own but it fits the series and its atmosphere.
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- They can buy the rights to the music. As I said, if Mondo can do it to make low-quality vinyl OST releases, Netflix certainly can.
- "The music wasn't good on it's own but it's good enough for this series." Uh....what? That makes no sense. Some parts may have needed to remain for subdued, okay. But the rest of the scenes didn't benefit from having forgettable music, IMO.
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- They can buy the rights to the music. As I said, if Mondo can do it to make low-quality vinyl OST releases, Netflix certainly can.
- "The music wasn't good on it's own but it's good enough for this series." Uh....what? That makes no sense. Some parts may have needed to remain for subdued, okay. But the rest of the scenes didn't benefit from having forgettable music, IMO.
Gotta agree with Sindra here. Getting the rights to use a CV song is not difficult. To not even use as much as one single melody from the 30 year legacy of CV known for its music is negligible and lazy in my opinion.
But all of that aside the music was just too cookie cutter and unoriginal for CV. Sure it's a different format when it's for an animated series. But a skilled composer should be able to do that and pay homage to the legacy of CV at the same time.
This was no time for auto-pilot compositions. And that's what the whole show sounded like to me.
I can't remember one goddamn melody from the show. That's a big problem when the title is Castlevania. They need a new composer for season 2.
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Gotta agree with Sindra here. Getting the rights to use a CV song is not difficult. To not even use as much as one single melody from the 30 year legacy of CV known for its music Is negligible and lazy in my opinion.
It's not difficult, indeed. They just didn't bother because they didn't care (and prob didn't wanted to spend some $$$ for 3 secs of Vampire Killer or Bloody Tears -- if they knew about those tunes). Another thing: new fans won't give a damn about the music and they don't know the original tunes.
What the show would need are better themes for season 2. Not tracks from the games, just good/memorable themes.
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It's not difficult, indeed. They just didn't bother because they didn't care (and prob didn't wanted to spend some $$$ for 3 secs of Vampire Killer or Bloody Tears -- if they knew about those tunes). Another thing: new fans won't give a damn about the music and they don't know the original tunes.
What the show would need are better themes for season 2. Not tracks from the games, just good/memorable themes.
They know about the tunes. Ellis was praising the series music and saying how integral it is to the franchise when he was talking about Trevor Morris composing. Not to mention they have all of the other game references in the first season; they know the music is important. But yeah, either they didn't want to shell out for music rights or they thought "Nah, let's use this dude, he'll be good enough for what we're looking for."
Now maybe they were waiting to see how people would react first, and maybe they'll have a better budget for season 2. All I'm saying is you shouldn't gush about the game series' music and talk it up, then not use any of it or hold your composer to try and craft a few tunes that are similar in memorable melody. That's my take on it anyway, and I knew going into this that the music would be a big sticking point for me so take my gripes with a grain of salt.
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Definitely the weakest part of the show relative to the games. We'll see if the second season is better.
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Hopefully, they'll be prepared to invest a bit more into getting the soundtrack more up to scratch during the second season, along with the other sound/animation issues, seeing as the series has in general been pretty well received. I agree with Chernabogue, it's not necessary to shove in one of the iconic songs, but it just needs to up its game a bit more. I was expecting somethign a bit more hard rock based on what Shankar said a while back.
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With as successful as it is for season 1, they should certainly have the funds to acquire any necessary license to at least fix the theme to something proper. I could ALMOST forgive the lack of notable themes throughout the show itself, but the opening title screen should have certainly been something such as Vampire Killer or Beginning.
The current soundtrack just gives me Lords of Shadow PTSD.
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Trevor Morris, really that's his name?
Come on, that has to be a joke.
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Part of me is jokingly wondering whether he was hired because his name is so fitting. But then again, he's worked on The Tudors and Dragon Age: Inquisition's soundtracks, so those possibly had a hand in that.
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Part of me is jokingly wondering whether he was hired because his name is so fitting. But then again, he's worked on The Tudors and Dragon Age: Inquisition's soundtracks, so those possibly had a hand in that.
yeah I know what you mean, But they must have been like "Ohh man he's going to fit right in here"
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The music is so forgettable that I don't imagine a lot of people buying it. Hell, I couldn't even remember what the songs were like some minutes after watching the show.
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I have to say, I am disappointed with this soundtrack too (like literally 86% of the people here, I assume).
But I'm a little optimistic about it (I say little, because I try to not make huge expectations).
The series is not done yet.
Maybe next season will have some of it.
I hope so, the animation is really good, but sadly the music is not as good.
I can understand if they want to make original music, and that's no problem, but it would be nice to hear some of the game music in it. Or at least a better original soundtrack.
That's no excuse, it's a professional studio, if these fan arranges on YouTube can do it justice, then I bet they can do it too.
Seriously, all of the fan orchestrated versions of Prelude (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QDaB9EeAbM) I listened to feel like they could be worked on and used in an animation.
And they could have easily used the more fast paced songs like Beginning, Boss Fight, Aquarius and Mad Forest in intense scenes.
Songs like Nightmare, Destiny, Anxiety, Encounter in dark atmospheric scenes.
And my heart hopes they might use Deja Vu next to the end, and use Overture and Big Battle in the fight with Dracula.
But again, I just said I was try to not bring my expectations too high, but the fact that they could be arranged to fit in perfectly is what bothers me.
It's not only good music in-game, it would fit nicely, it just has to be used correctly, and it's too good not to use!
But well, I'm staying with a clear mind, and just hoping for something better, even if they end up just making original tracks and nothing more.