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Title: Symphony of the Night Logical Fallacies
Post by: Mooning Freddy on March 07, 2018, 08:40:15 PM
I bet you all remember the cheesy Symphony of the Night intro "argument" between Dracula and Richter. I got bored and as a fan of philosophy, decided to analyze the logical fallacies in their arguments. Hope you will enjoy this as I had.

Richter: Die monster. You don't belong in this world!
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Ad Hominem: Attacking your opponent's character or personal traits (monster) in an attempt to undermine their argument (or in this case, existence).

Essentialism / Appeal to Nature: Saying that something "belongs" somewhere is a fallacy unless you are able to make a convincing argument about why is belongs (or doesn't belong) there.

Dracula: It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was called here by humans, who wish to pay me tribute.
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Burden of Proof: Saying that the burden of proof lies not with the person making the claim, but with someone else to disprove (The humans who wish to pay tribute).
Richter: Tribute? You steal men's souls, and make them your slaves.
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Irrelevant: While Richter's statement might be true, it's irrelevant to Dracula's prior statement.
Dracula: Perhaps the same could be said of all religions.

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Tu Quoque / Whataboutism: Avoiding having to engage with criticism by turning it back on the accuser - answering criticism with criticism.

False equivalence: While the same could be metaphorically said of all religions, Dracula is doing it quite literally.

Richter: Your words are as empty as your soul. Mankind ill needs a savior such as you.
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Ad Hominem: (again…)

Begging the Question: A circular argument in which the conclusion (Mankind doesn't need Dracula) is included in the premise (Dracula is bad). 

Dracula: What is a man?! A miserable little pile of secrets!
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Ambiguity: Using double meanings or ambiguities of language to mislead or misrepresent the truth.

Bullshit: Dracula is just bullshitting now. He doesn't even make any sense.

Dracula: But enough talk; have at you!

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Appeal to violence: … And resorting to violence because he doesn't have any arguments anymore.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Night Logical Fallacies
Post by: theplottwist on March 08, 2018, 04:04:14 AM
While I had my laugh with this, I think what you pointed out is pretty spot-on. It LOOKS like a debate, but really is just they calling the other names in fancy wording :P
Title: Re: Symphony of the Night Logical Fallacies
Post by: Briraka on March 08, 2018, 01:09:32 PM
so basically, an internet argument before the existence of the internet.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Night Logical Fallacies
Post by: Darth Cariss on March 09, 2018, 06:35:44 AM
I wasn't too sure about this when I started reading but by the end I was thoroughly amused. Well done.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Night Logical Fallacies
Post by: theANdROId on March 31, 2018, 08:27:30 AM
This is amazing!